HELP! Broken down on trail, how do they remove the rear driveshaft?!?
08-02-2003, 08:38 PM
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HELP! Broken down on trail, how do they remove the rear driveshaft?!?
A buddy of mine just called from the trail (Tuttle Creek ORV, 2.5 hours from
here) and said that an 02 WJ Overland had the fan seize for some unknown
reason and the engine overheated. They're going to have to tow it back.
Before towing it 180 miles or so, they were going to remove the rear
driveshaft (only the rear as they will be towing with the front wheels in a
dolly).
The WJ has the 247 transfer case with quadradrive. What tools do they need
to remove the driveshaft? How do they do it? I'm their only resource and
they are waiting for a call back. Help!
Thanks,
Eric
here) and said that an 02 WJ Overland had the fan seize for some unknown
reason and the engine overheated. They're going to have to tow it back.
Before towing it 180 miles or so, they were going to remove the rear
driveshaft (only the rear as they will be towing with the front wheels in a
dolly).
The WJ has the 247 transfer case with quadradrive. What tools do they need
to remove the driveshaft? How do they do it? I'm their only resource and
they are waiting for a call back. Help!
Thanks,
Eric
08-02-2003, 10:32 PM
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Re: HELP! Broken down on trail, how do they remove the rear driveshaft?!?
"Eric" wrote ...
> The WJ has the 247 transfer case with quadradrive. What tools do they need
> to remove the driveshaft? How do they do it? I'm their only resource and
> they are waiting for a call back. Help!
Not sure about the wrench sizes, but a set of sockets and open end wrenches
should do it for you... An adjustable end wrench (aka Crescent Wrench) might
also be useful in case you don't have the right size open end wrench... If
it is anything like my XJ, it should consist of unbolting the U-joint and
then the drive shaft will slip out of the front...
> The WJ has the 247 transfer case with quadradrive. What tools do they need
> to remove the driveshaft? How do they do it? I'm their only resource and
> they are waiting for a call back. Help!
Not sure about the wrench sizes, but a set of sockets and open end wrenches
should do it for you... An adjustable end wrench (aka Crescent Wrench) might
also be useful in case you don't have the right size open end wrench... If
it is anything like my XJ, it should consist of unbolting the U-joint and
then the drive shaft will slip out of the front...
08-02-2003, 10:38 PM
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Re: HELP! Broken down on trail, how do they remove the rear driveshaft?!?
Thanks for the info!
Eric
"Grumman-581" <grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM.houston.rr.com> wrote in message
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> "Eric" wrote ...
> > The WJ has the 247 transfer case with quadradrive. What tools do they
need
> > to remove the driveshaft? How do they do it? I'm their only resource and
> > they are waiting for a call back. Help!
>
> Not sure about the wrench sizes, but a set of sockets and open end
wrenches
> should do it for you... An adjustable end wrench (aka Crescent Wrench)
might
> also be useful in case you don't have the right size open end wrench... If
> it is anything like my XJ, it should consist of unbolting the U-joint and
> then the drive shaft will slip out of the front...
>
>
Eric
"Grumman-581" <grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM.houston.rr.com> wrote in message
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> "Eric" wrote ...
> > The WJ has the 247 transfer case with quadradrive. What tools do they
need
> > to remove the driveshaft? How do they do it? I'm their only resource and
> > they are waiting for a call back. Help!
>
> Not sure about the wrench sizes, but a set of sockets and open end
wrenches
> should do it for you... An adjustable end wrench (aka Crescent Wrench)
might
> also be useful in case you don't have the right size open end wrench... If
> it is anything like my XJ, it should consist of unbolting the U-joint and
> then the drive shaft will slip out of the front...
>
>
08-02-2003, 11:14 PM
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Re: HELP! Broken down on trail, how do they remove the rear driveshaft?!?
"Grumman-581" <grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM.houston.rr.com> wrote in message
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> "Eric" wrote ...
> > The WJ has the 247 transfer case with quadradrive. What tools do they
> > need to remove the driveshaft? How do they do it? I'm their only
> > resource and they are waiting for a call back. Help!
>
> Not sure about the wrench sizes, but a set of sockets and open end
> wrenches should do it for you... An adjustable end wrench (aka
> Crescent Wrench) might also be useful in case you don't have the
> right size open end wrench... If it is anything like my XJ, it should
> consist of unbolting the U-joint and then the drive shaft will slip out
> of the front...
>
>
Heh, Crescent wrench in the dark, trying to remove a drive shaft... I don't
envy these guys one bit.
Earle
news:dv_Wa.144528$hV.9352747@twister.austin.rr.com ...
> "Eric" wrote ...
> > The WJ has the 247 transfer case with quadradrive. What tools do they
> > need to remove the driveshaft? How do they do it? I'm their only
> > resource and they are waiting for a call back. Help!
>
> Not sure about the wrench sizes, but a set of sockets and open end
> wrenches should do it for you... An adjustable end wrench (aka
> Crescent Wrench) might also be useful in case you don't have the
> right size open end wrench... If it is anything like my XJ, it should
> consist of unbolting the U-joint and then the drive shaft will slip out
> of the front...
>
>
Heh, Crescent wrench in the dark, trying to remove a drive shaft... I don't
envy these guys one bit.
Earle
08-02-2003, 11:27 PM
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Re: HELP! Broken down on trail, how do they remove the rear driveshaft?!?
I finally got a call back, and they weren't sure what to do once they got
those 4 bolts off. They said it didn't seem like it was ready to come off.
I'm guessing there is a need for a BFH here, right?
Eric
"Eric" <gymrat@***.net> wrote in message
news:oQYWa.217193$o86.126336@news1.central.***.net ...
> A buddy of mine just called from the trail (Tuttle Creek ORV, 2.5 hours
from
> here) and said that an 02 WJ Overland had the fan seize for some unknown
> reason and the engine overheated. They're going to have to tow it back.
> Before towing it 180 miles or so, they were going to remove the rear
> driveshaft (only the rear as they will be towing with the front wheels in
a
> dolly).
>
> The WJ has the 247 transfer case with quadradrive. What tools do they need
> to remove the driveshaft? How do they do it? I'm their only resource and
> they are waiting for a call back. Help!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Eric
>
>
those 4 bolts off. They said it didn't seem like it was ready to come off.
I'm guessing there is a need for a BFH here, right?
Eric
"Eric" <gymrat@***.net> wrote in message
news:oQYWa.217193$o86.126336@news1.central.***.net ...
> A buddy of mine just called from the trail (Tuttle Creek ORV, 2.5 hours
from
> here) and said that an 02 WJ Overland had the fan seize for some unknown
> reason and the engine overheated. They're going to have to tow it back.
> Before towing it 180 miles or so, they were going to remove the rear
> driveshaft (only the rear as they will be towing with the front wheels in
a
> dolly).
>
> The WJ has the 247 transfer case with quadradrive. What tools do they need
> to remove the driveshaft? How do they do it? I'm their only resource and
> they are waiting for a call back. Help!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Eric
>
>
08-03-2003, 01:26 AM
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Re: HELP! Broken down on trail, how do they remove the rear driveshaft?!?
"Earle Horton" wrote ...
> Heh, Crescent wrench in the dark, trying to remove a drive shaft... I
don't
> envy these guys one bit.
Well, one would assume that if they can get the wrenches that they could get
a decent light... One of the Q-beam type lights should make it bearable
enough to work under there... Still, I would try using a socket first, then
the open or closed end wrenches, then if nothing fit, the adjustable end
wrench... One would also assume that they didn't bother with attempting this
while in an awkward place on the trail, that they perhaps got back to the
road or a relatively flat / solid surface before attempting it... Basically,
4 bolts to remove and a nudge with a mallet or small pry bar to get it
unstuck should do it... Probably less trouble than changing a tire... At
least you don't have to get the tire off the top of the vehicle or jack the
vehicle up to do it...
> Heh, Crescent wrench in the dark, trying to remove a drive shaft... I
don't
> envy these guys one bit.
Well, one would assume that if they can get the wrenches that they could get
a decent light... One of the Q-beam type lights should make it bearable
enough to work under there... Still, I would try using a socket first, then
the open or closed end wrenches, then if nothing fit, the adjustable end
wrench... One would also assume that they didn't bother with attempting this
while in an awkward place on the trail, that they perhaps got back to the
road or a relatively flat / solid surface before attempting it... Basically,
4 bolts to remove and a nudge with a mallet or small pry bar to get it
unstuck should do it... Probably less trouble than changing a tire... At
least you don't have to get the tire off the top of the vehicle or jack the
vehicle up to do it...
08-03-2003, 07:26 AM
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Re: HELP! Broken down on trail, how do they remove the rear driveshaft?!?
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
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> Eric, the u-joint gets "jammed" into the yoke that it is bolted into and
> even once the retaining straps are removed, it doesn't just fall out on
its
> own. Get a big screwdriver and pry it out of the yoke, it'll fall out
with
> a little leverage.
....and probably land on your head if you're lying under the vehicle... Tell
them to get to the side before they pry it loose.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
> "Eric" <gymrat@***.net> wrote in message
> news:Ai%Wa.218485$o86.78633@news1.central.***.net. ..
> > I finally got a call back, and they weren't sure what to do once they
got
> > those 4 bolts off. They said it didn't seem like it was ready to come
> off.
> > I'm guessing there is a need for a BFH here, right?
> >
> > Eric
> > "Eric" <gymrat@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:oQYWa.217193$o86.126336@news1.central.***.net ...
> > > A buddy of mine just called from the trail (Tuttle Creek ORV, 2.5
hours
> > from
> > > here) and said that an 02 WJ Overland had the fan seize for some
unknown
> > > reason and the engine overheated. They're going to have to tow it
back.
> > > Before towing it 180 miles or so, they were going to remove the rear
> > > driveshaft (only the rear as they will be towing with the front wheels
> in
> > a
> > > dolly).
> > >
> > > The WJ has the 247 transfer case with quadradrive. What tools do they
> need
> > > to remove the driveshaft? How do they do it? I'm their only resource
and
> > > they are waiting for a call back. Help!
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Eric
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
08-03-2003, 11:30 AM
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Re: HELP! Broken down on trail, how do they remove the rear driveshaft?!?
"Grumman-581" <grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM.houston.rr.com> wrote in message
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> "Earle Horton" wrote ...
> > Heh, Crescent wrench in the dark, trying to remove a drive shaft... I
> don't
> > envy these guys one bit.
>
> Well, one would assume that if they can get the wrenches that they could
get
> a decent light... One of the Q-beam type lights should make it bearable
> enough to work under there... Still, I would try using a socket first,
then
> the open or closed end wrenches, then if nothing fit, the adjustable end
> wrench... One would also assume that they didn't bother with attempting
this
> while in an awkward place on the trail, that they perhaps got back to the
> road or a relatively flat / solid surface before attempting it...
Basically,
> 4 bolts to remove and a nudge with a mallet or small pry bar to get it
> unstuck should do it... Probably less trouble than changing a tire... At
> least you don't have to get the tire off the top of the vehicle or jack
the
> vehicle up to do it...
>
Halfway down Poughkeepsie Gulch north of Silverton four years ago shortly
before night fall I came across a group of locals clustered around a Scout
with one of its rear axles sticking out a foot or more from where it should
have been. One of them was underneath with some tools trying to put the
C-clip back. I asked whether they needed help and one of them asked me to
go home and call her mother, saying that all would be home a little late...
Earle
news:A21Xa.128645$TJ.7912829@twister.austin.rr.com ...
> "Earle Horton" wrote ...
> > Heh, Crescent wrench in the dark, trying to remove a drive shaft... I
> don't
> > envy these guys one bit.
>
> Well, one would assume that if they can get the wrenches that they could
get
> a decent light... One of the Q-beam type lights should make it bearable
> enough to work under there... Still, I would try using a socket first,
then
> the open or closed end wrenches, then if nothing fit, the adjustable end
> wrench... One would also assume that they didn't bother with attempting
this
> while in an awkward place on the trail, that they perhaps got back to the
> road or a relatively flat / solid surface before attempting it...
Basically,
> 4 bolts to remove and a nudge with a mallet or small pry bar to get it
> unstuck should do it... Probably less trouble than changing a tire... At
> least you don't have to get the tire off the top of the vehicle or jack
the
> vehicle up to do it...
>
Halfway down Poughkeepsie Gulch north of Silverton four years ago shortly
before night fall I came across a group of locals clustered around a Scout
with one of its rear axles sticking out a foot or more from where it should
have been. One of them was underneath with some tools trying to put the
C-clip back. I asked whether they needed help and one of them asked me to
go home and call her mother, saying that all would be home a little late...
Earle
08-03-2003, 11:37 AM
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Re: HELP! Broken down on trail, how do they remove the rear driveshaft?!?
"TJim" <jim@ranlet.nospam.com> wrote in message
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> Does Quadradrive have a slip yoke like the 231 has? If so, you'll need
> something (like a coke can) to keep all the fluid from leaking out of the
> back end of the transfer case.
The 231 hasn't been that way since '96. Your TJ's 231 won't leak if the
driveshaft is removed.
Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
> "Grumman-581" <grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM.houston.rr.com> wrote in
message
> news:A21Xa.128645$TJ.7912829@twister.austin.rr.com ...
> > "Earle Horton" wrote ...
> > > Heh, Crescent wrench in the dark, trying to remove a drive shaft... I
> > don't
> > > envy these guys one bit.
> >
> > Well, one would assume that if they can get the wrenches that they could
> get
> > a decent light... One of the Q-beam type lights should make it bearable
> > enough to work under there... Still, I would try using a socket first,
> then
> > the open or closed end wrenches, then if nothing fit, the adjustable end
> > wrench... One would also assume that they didn't bother with attempting
> this
> > while in an awkward place on the trail, that they perhaps got back to
the
> > road or a relatively flat / solid surface before attempting it...
> Basically,
> > 4 bolts to remove and a nudge with a mallet or small pry bar to get it
> > unstuck should do it... Probably less trouble than changing a tire... At
> > least you don't have to get the tire off the top of the vehicle or jack
> the
> > vehicle up to do it...
> >
> >
>
>
news:uUGdnf1wmZODbLGiXTWJjQ@comcast.com...
> Does Quadradrive have a slip yoke like the 231 has? If so, you'll need
> something (like a coke can) to keep all the fluid from leaking out of the
> back end of the transfer case.
The 231 hasn't been that way since '96. Your TJ's 231 won't leak if the
driveshaft is removed.
Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
> "Grumman-581" <grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM.houston.rr.com> wrote in
message
> news:A21Xa.128645$TJ.7912829@twister.austin.rr.com ...
> > "Earle Horton" wrote ...
> > > Heh, Crescent wrench in the dark, trying to remove a drive shaft... I
> > don't
> > > envy these guys one bit.
> >
> > Well, one would assume that if they can get the wrenches that they could
> get
> > a decent light... One of the Q-beam type lights should make it bearable
> > enough to work under there... Still, I would try using a socket first,
> then
> > the open or closed end wrenches, then if nothing fit, the adjustable end
> > wrench... One would also assume that they didn't bother with attempting
> this
> > while in an awkward place on the trail, that they perhaps got back to
the
> > road or a relatively flat / solid surface before attempting it...
> Basically,
> > 4 bolts to remove and a nudge with a mallet or small pry bar to get it
> > unstuck should do it... Probably less trouble than changing a tire... At
> > least you don't have to get the tire off the top of the vehicle or jack
> the
> > vehicle up to do it...
> >
> >
>
>
08-03-2003, 12:26 PM
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Re: HELP! Broken down on trail, how do they remove the rear driveshaft?!?
Thanks, Jerry, I hadn't realized that.
TJim
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
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> "TJim" <jim@ranlet.nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:uUGdnf1wmZODbLGiXTWJjQ@comcast.com...
> > Does Quadradrive have a slip yoke like the 231 has? If so, you'll need
> > something (like a coke can) to keep all the fluid from leaking out of
the
> > back end of the transfer case.
>
> The 231 hasn't been that way since '96. Your TJ's 231 won't leak if the
> driveshaft is removed.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
> >
> > "Grumman-581" <grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM.houston.rr.com> wrote in
> message
> > news:A21Xa.128645$TJ.7912829@twister.austin.rr.com ...
> > > "Earle Horton" wrote ...
> > > > Heh, Crescent wrench in the dark, trying to remove a drive shaft...
I
> > > don't
> > > > envy these guys one bit.
> > >
> > > Well, one would assume that if they can get the wrenches that they
could
> > get
> > > a decent light... One of the Q-beam type lights should make it
bearable
> > > enough to work under there... Still, I would try using a socket first,
> > then
> > > the open or closed end wrenches, then if nothing fit, the adjustable
end
> > > wrench... One would also assume that they didn't bother with
attempting
> > this
> > > while in an awkward place on the trail, that they perhaps got back to
> the
> > > road or a relatively flat / solid surface before attempting it...
> > Basically,
> > > 4 bolts to remove and a nudge with a mallet or small pry bar to get it
> > > unstuck should do it... Probably less trouble than changing a tire...
At
> > > least you don't have to get the tire off the top of the vehicle or
jack
> > the
> > > vehicle up to do it...
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
TJim
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
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> "TJim" <jim@ranlet.nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:uUGdnf1wmZODbLGiXTWJjQ@comcast.com...
> > Does Quadradrive have a slip yoke like the 231 has? If so, you'll need
> > something (like a coke can) to keep all the fluid from leaking out of
the
> > back end of the transfer case.
>
> The 231 hasn't been that way since '96. Your TJ's 231 won't leak if the
> driveshaft is removed.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
> >
> > "Grumman-581" <grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM.houston.rr.com> wrote in
> message
> > news:A21Xa.128645$TJ.7912829@twister.austin.rr.com ...
> > > "Earle Horton" wrote ...
> > > > Heh, Crescent wrench in the dark, trying to remove a drive shaft...
I
> > > don't
> > > > envy these guys one bit.
> > >
> > > Well, one would assume that if they can get the wrenches that they
could
> > get
> > > a decent light... One of the Q-beam type lights should make it
bearable
> > > enough to work under there... Still, I would try using a socket first,
> > then
> > > the open or closed end wrenches, then if nothing fit, the adjustable
end
> > > wrench... One would also assume that they didn't bother with
attempting
> > this
> > > while in an awkward place on the trail, that they perhaps got back to
> the
> > > road or a relatively flat / solid surface before attempting it...
> > Basically,
> > > 4 bolts to remove and a nudge with a mallet or small pry bar to get it
> > > unstuck should do it... Probably less trouble than changing a tire...
At
> > > least you don't have to get the tire off the top of the vehicle or
jack
> > the
> > > vehicle up to do it...
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>