86 Driveshaft question
 

Hi all
My jeep is an 86 Cherokee 2.5l with the 207 transfer case. Automatic

My 86 Jeep Cherokee has the double-offset (CV with a boot over it)
front driveshaft. Which looks pretty wasted from the outside the boot
is all pushed in and I could wiggle my pinkie finger in there, I'm
99.9% sure it is wasted. I was thinking about buying a replacement for
it from napa. Would it put an extreme angle on the u-joints since it
only uses 2 one on each end? Would it have some nasty vibrations? Sorry
for all the questions but for the price of the napa replacement I want
to know if it will be the right way to go. Here is the link to the
Driveshaft it is the one labeled "Front Axle 100% Serviceable HD
Direct Replacement U-Joint Style Shaft GKN Design" I was also thinking
about lifting the cherokee only about 2 inces just enough to throw some
30x9.50x15's on it would this frontshaft work for something like that
to?

Here is the link


http://www.napaonline.com/masterpage...d=8&SubCatId=8



My question is would it be better and easier to say take the front
out-put yoke from a 231 transefr case and then just get a double
carrion style driveshaft from a junkyard Cherokee? I mean would say a
jeep through 87-00 all have the same front-driveshaft? I would be
looking for an Automatic driveshaft cause I hear their alittle bit
longer then the manuel transmissions) would it all just bolt right up
to mine? I'm gonna call the junkyard tommorrow and see what they would
charge me for a front driveshaft out of a Cherokee (87-00)

Any info would be greatly appreciated

Sincerely

Dave

Re: 86 Driveshaft question
 

My advice is to take your existing drive shaft to a machine shop, and have
them tell you what is up with it. Chances are good that you can get away
with replacing the joint or maybe even just the boot. Unless you know
exactly what you are doing, trying to swap in "equivalent" but not
"identical" parts, that may have compatibility issues, is going to buy you a
lot of trouble.

"Carrion" -- Of or similar to dead and decaying flesh. The American Heritage
Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition, 2000. You're killing
me.

Earle

"Dave G" <davidgibbons81@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1144473318.786290.326290@v46g2000cwv.googlegr oups.com...
> Hi all
> My jeep is an 86 Cherokee 2.5l with the 207 transfer case. Automatic
>
> My 86 Jeep Cherokee has the double-offset (CV with a boot over it)
> front driveshaft. Which looks pretty wasted from the outside the boot
> is all pushed in and I could wiggle my pinkie finger in there, I'm
> 99.9% sure it is wasted. I was thinking about buying a replacement for
> it from napa. Would it put an extreme angle on the u-joints since it
> only uses 2 one on each end? Would it have some nasty vibrations? Sorry
> for all the questions but for the price of the napa replacement I want
> to know if it will be the right way to go. Here is the link to the
> Driveshaft it is the one labeled "Front Axle 100% Serviceable HD
> Direct Replacement U-Joint Style Shaft GKN Design" I was also thinking
> about lifting the cherokee only about 2 inces just enough to throw some
> 30x9.50x15's on it would this frontshaft work for something like that
> to?
>
> Here is the link
>
>
>
http://www.napaonline.com/masterpage...d=8&SubCatId=8
>
>
>
> My question is would it be better and easier to say take the front
> out-put yoke from a 231 transefr case and then just get a double
> carrion style driveshaft from a junkyard Cherokee? I mean would say a
> jeep through 87-00 all have the same front-driveshaft? I would be
> looking for an Automatic driveshaft cause I hear their alittle bit
> longer then the manuel transmissions) would it all just bolt right up
> to mine? I'm gonna call the junkyard tommorrow and see what they would
> charge me for a front driveshaft out of a Cherokee (87-00)
>
> Any info would be greatly appreciated
>
> Sincerely
>
> Dave
>

Re: 86 Driveshaft question
 

My advice is to take your existing drive shaft to a machine shop, and have
them tell you what is up with it. Chances are good that you can get away
with replacing the joint or maybe even just the boot. Unless you know
exactly what you are doing, trying to swap in "equivalent" but not
"identical" parts, that may have compatibility issues, is going to buy you a
lot of trouble.

"Carrion" -- Of or similar to dead and decaying flesh. The American Heritage
Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition, 2000. You're killing
me.

Earle

"Dave G" <davidgibbons81@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1144473318.786290.326290@v46g2000cwv.googlegr oups.com...
> Hi all
> My jeep is an 86 Cherokee 2.5l with the 207 transfer case. Automatic
>
> My 86 Jeep Cherokee has the double-offset (CV with a boot over it)
> front driveshaft. Which looks pretty wasted from the outside the boot
> is all pushed in and I could wiggle my pinkie finger in there, I'm
> 99.9% sure it is wasted. I was thinking about buying a replacement for
> it from napa. Would it put an extreme angle on the u-joints since it
> only uses 2 one on each end? Would it have some nasty vibrations? Sorry
> for all the questions but for the price of the napa replacement I want
> to know if it will be the right way to go. Here is the link to the
> Driveshaft it is the one labeled "Front Axle 100% Serviceable HD
> Direct Replacement U-Joint Style Shaft GKN Design" I was also thinking
> about lifting the cherokee only about 2 inces just enough to throw some
> 30x9.50x15's on it would this frontshaft work for something like that
> to?
>
> Here is the link
>
>
>
http://www.napaonline.com/masterpage...d=8&SubCatId=8
>
>
>
> My question is would it be better and easier to say take the front
> out-put yoke from a 231 transefr case and then just get a double
> carrion style driveshaft from a junkyard Cherokee? I mean would say a
> jeep through 87-00 all have the same front-driveshaft? I would be
> looking for an Automatic driveshaft cause I hear their alittle bit
> longer then the manuel transmissions) would it all just bolt right up
> to mine? I'm gonna call the junkyard tommorrow and see what they would
> charge me for a front driveshaft out of a Cherokee (87-00)
>
> Any info would be greatly appreciated
>
> Sincerely
>
> Dave
>

Re: 86 Driveshaft question
 

My advice is to take your existing drive shaft to a machine shop, and have
them tell you what is up with it. Chances are good that you can get away
with replacing the joint or maybe even just the boot. Unless you know
exactly what you are doing, trying to swap in "equivalent" but not
"identical" parts, that may have compatibility issues, is going to buy you a
lot of trouble.

"Carrion" -- Of or similar to dead and decaying flesh. The American Heritage
Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition, 2000. You're killing
me.

Earle

"Dave G" <davidgibbons81@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1144473318.786290.326290@v46g2000cwv.googlegr oups.com...
> Hi all
> My jeep is an 86 Cherokee 2.5l with the 207 transfer case. Automatic
>
> My 86 Jeep Cherokee has the double-offset (CV with a boot over it)
> front driveshaft. Which looks pretty wasted from the outside the boot
> is all pushed in and I could wiggle my pinkie finger in there, I'm
> 99.9% sure it is wasted. I was thinking about buying a replacement for
> it from napa. Would it put an extreme angle on the u-joints since it
> only uses 2 one on each end? Would it have some nasty vibrations? Sorry
> for all the questions but for the price of the napa replacement I want
> to know if it will be the right way to go. Here is the link to the
> Driveshaft it is the one labeled "Front Axle 100% Serviceable HD
> Direct Replacement U-Joint Style Shaft GKN Design" I was also thinking
> about lifting the cherokee only about 2 inces just enough to throw some
> 30x9.50x15's on it would this frontshaft work for something like that
> to?
>
> Here is the link
>
>
>
http://www.napaonline.com/masterpage...d=8&SubCatId=8
>
>
>
> My question is would it be better and easier to say take the front
> out-put yoke from a 231 transefr case and then just get a double
> carrion style driveshaft from a junkyard Cherokee? I mean would say a
> jeep through 87-00 all have the same front-driveshaft? I would be
> looking for an Automatic driveshaft cause I hear their alittle bit
> longer then the manuel transmissions) would it all just bolt right up
> to mine? I'm gonna call the junkyard tommorrow and see what they would
> charge me for a front driveshaft out of a Cherokee (87-00)
>
> Any info would be greatly appreciated
>
> Sincerely
>
> Dave
>

Re: 86 Driveshaft question
 

The double cardan or CV joint is there to stop u-joint binding because
of the angles involved. They can't get the vertical line of the front
differential's u-joint to match up with the t-case because of front end
alignment issues so they use the CV.

I really doubt a single u-joint will work for long, especially if you
give the Jeep a lift.

That is one issue with lifts, it throws off the u-joint geometry.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page

Dave G wrote:
>
> Hi all
> My jeep is an 86 Cherokee 2.5l with the 207 transfer case. Automatic
>
> My 86 Jeep Cherokee has the double-offset (CV with a boot over it)
> front driveshaft. Which looks pretty wasted from the outside the boot
> is all pushed in and I could wiggle my pinkie finger in there, I'm
> 99.9% sure it is wasted. I was thinking about buying a replacement for
> it from napa. Would it put an extreme angle on the u-joints since it
> only uses 2 one on each end? Would it have some nasty vibrations? Sorry
> for all the questions but for the price of the napa replacement I want
> to know if it will be the right way to go. Here is the link to the
> Driveshaft it is the one labeled "Front Axle 100% Serviceable HD
> Direct Replacement U-Joint Style Shaft GKN Design" I was also thinking
> about lifting the cherokee only about 2 inces just enough to throw some
> 30x9.50x15's on it would this frontshaft work for something like that
> to?
>
> Here is the link
>
> http://www.napaonline.com/masterpage...d=8&SubCatId=8
>
> My question is would it be better and easier to say take the front
> out-put yoke from a 231 transefr case and then just get a double
> carrion style driveshaft from a junkyard Cherokee? I mean would say a
> jeep through 87-00 all have the same front-driveshaft? I would be
> looking for an Automatic driveshaft cause I hear their alittle bit
> longer then the manuel transmissions) would it all just bolt right up
> to mine? I'm gonna call the junkyard tommorrow and see what they would
> charge me for a front driveshaft out of a Cherokee (87-00)
>
> Any info would be greatly appreciated
>
> Sincerely
>
> Dave

Re: 86 Driveshaft question
 

The double cardan or CV joint is there to stop u-joint binding because
of the angles involved. They can't get the vertical line of the front
differential's u-joint to match up with the t-case because of front end
alignment issues so they use the CV.

I really doubt a single u-joint will work for long, especially if you
give the Jeep a lift.

That is one issue with lifts, it throws off the u-joint geometry.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page

Dave G wrote:
>
> Hi all
> My jeep is an 86 Cherokee 2.5l with the 207 transfer case. Automatic
>
> My 86 Jeep Cherokee has the double-offset (CV with a boot over it)
> front driveshaft. Which looks pretty wasted from the outside the boot
> is all pushed in and I could wiggle my pinkie finger in there, I'm
> 99.9% sure it is wasted. I was thinking about buying a replacement for
> it from napa. Would it put an extreme angle on the u-joints since it
> only uses 2 one on each end? Would it have some nasty vibrations? Sorry
> for all the questions but for the price of the napa replacement I want
> to know if it will be the right way to go. Here is the link to the
> Driveshaft it is the one labeled "Front Axle 100% Serviceable HD
> Direct Replacement U-Joint Style Shaft GKN Design" I was also thinking
> about lifting the cherokee only about 2 inces just enough to throw some
> 30x9.50x15's on it would this frontshaft work for something like that
> to?
>
> Here is the link
>
> http://www.napaonline.com/masterpage...d=8&SubCatId=8
>
> My question is would it be better and easier to say take the front
> out-put yoke from a 231 transefr case and then just get a double
> carrion style driveshaft from a junkyard Cherokee? I mean would say a
> jeep through 87-00 all have the same front-driveshaft? I would be
> looking for an Automatic driveshaft cause I hear their alittle bit
> longer then the manuel transmissions) would it all just bolt right up
> to mine? I'm gonna call the junkyard tommorrow and see what they would
> charge me for a front driveshaft out of a Cherokee (87-00)
>
> Any info would be greatly appreciated
>
> Sincerely
>
> Dave

Re: 86 Driveshaft question
 

The double cardan or CV joint is there to stop u-joint binding because
of the angles involved. They can't get the vertical line of the front
differential's u-joint to match up with the t-case because of front end
alignment issues so they use the CV.

I really doubt a single u-joint will work for long, especially if you
give the Jeep a lift.

That is one issue with lifts, it throws off the u-joint geometry.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page

Dave G wrote:
>
> Hi all
> My jeep is an 86 Cherokee 2.5l with the 207 transfer case. Automatic
>
> My 86 Jeep Cherokee has the double-offset (CV with a boot over it)
> front driveshaft. Which looks pretty wasted from the outside the boot
> is all pushed in and I could wiggle my pinkie finger in there, I'm
> 99.9% sure it is wasted. I was thinking about buying a replacement for
> it from napa. Would it put an extreme angle on the u-joints since it
> only uses 2 one on each end? Would it have some nasty vibrations? Sorry
> for all the questions but for the price of the napa replacement I want
> to know if it will be the right way to go. Here is the link to the
> Driveshaft it is the one labeled "Front Axle 100% Serviceable HD
> Direct Replacement U-Joint Style Shaft GKN Design" I was also thinking
> about lifting the cherokee only about 2 inces just enough to throw some
> 30x9.50x15's on it would this frontshaft work for something like that
> to?
>
> Here is the link
>
> http://www.napaonline.com/masterpage...d=8&SubCatId=8
>
> My question is would it be better and easier to say take the front
> out-put yoke from a 231 transefr case and then just get a double
> carrion style driveshaft from a junkyard Cherokee? I mean would say a
> jeep through 87-00 all have the same front-driveshaft? I would be
> looking for an Automatic driveshaft cause I hear their alittle bit
> longer then the manuel transmissions) would it all just bolt right up
> to mine? I'm gonna call the junkyard tommorrow and see what they would
> charge me for a front driveshaft out of a Cherokee (87-00)
>
> Any info would be greatly appreciated
>
> Sincerely
>
> Dave

Re: 86 Driveshaft question
 

No one still answered my question. The GKN Style Shaft has got to go.
As far as I know of I can take the front input yoke from an 231 case
which will bolt right into my 207 case. Then just go and get a double
Cardan front drive shaft. Here maybe these picture from Madxj will help
some of you to understand. Any which way you cut it I do not want that
piece of ---- GKN shaft on my jeep. So I'll ask again has anyone done
this or know of anyone that has done this? It seems pretty simple. Any
info would be greatly appreciated.

p.s Sorry Earl that you have nothing better to do then to tear apart
people for the way they spell. You can't rebuild the GKN joint anyways
if its wasted, its wasted you need a new shaft period. Read your haynes
manuel.

Sincerely

Dave

Re: 86 Driveshaft question
 

No one still answered my question. The GKN Style Shaft has got to go.
As far as I know of I can take the front input yoke from an 231 case
which will bolt right into my 207 case. Then just go and get a double
Cardan front drive shaft. Here maybe these picture from Madxj will help
some of you to understand. Any which way you cut it I do not want that
piece of ---- GKN shaft on my jeep. So I'll ask again has anyone done
this or know of anyone that has done this? It seems pretty simple. Any
info would be greatly appreciated.

p.s Sorry Earl that you have nothing better to do then to tear apart
people for the way they spell. You can't rebuild the GKN joint anyways
if its wasted, its wasted you need a new shaft period. Read your haynes
manuel.

Sincerely

Dave

Re: 86 Driveshaft question
 

No one still answered my question. The GKN Style Shaft has got to go.
As far as I know of I can take the front input yoke from an 231 case
which will bolt right into my 207 case. Then just go and get a double
Cardan front drive shaft. Here maybe these picture from Madxj will help
some of you to understand. Any which way you cut it I do not want that
piece of ---- GKN shaft on my jeep. So I'll ask again has anyone done
this or know of anyone that has done this? It seems pretty simple. Any
info would be greatly appreciated.

p.s Sorry Earl that you have nothing better to do then to tear apart
people for the way they spell. You can't rebuild the GKN joint anyways
if its wasted, its wasted you need a new shaft period. Read your haynes
manuel.

Sincerely

Dave