Re: 6 cyl. YJ or 4 cyl. TJ?????????
 

Hey, isn't that L.W. (or whatever his *real* name is...) standing next to
it?

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"c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
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> This is pasted from the Wrangler page off of the Jeep website:
> Base Curb Weight - Automatic Trans - 3268 lb
>
> So I guess a "real" Jeep must weight about 1100 pounds?
>
> And since weight is the only performance factor, I have found the ultimate
> Jeep for anyone that thinks so silly:
>
> It's even got dual batteries and it is painted like a "real" Jeep.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/r353
>
> Chris
>
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:3F8DC25A.BE40D2FE@cox.net...
> > How would your Rubicon perform at about one third it's weight, is
> > that enough of an explanation?
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > JimG wrote:
> > >
> > > Yea... please explain! I would love to have a stock Rubicon for the
> trail!
> > >
> > > --
> > > JimG
> > > 80' CJ-7, 258 CID
> > > 35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > 4.56 D30-D44 SOA
> > > D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
> > > LockRight F&R
>
>

Re: 6 cyl. YJ or 4 cyl. TJ?????????
 

Hey, isn't that L.W. (or whatever his *real* name is...) standing next to
it?

--
Jim
--
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98



"c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
news:eLkjb.32213$pg7.123@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> This is pasted from the Wrangler page off of the Jeep website:
> Base Curb Weight - Automatic Trans - 3268 lb
>
> So I guess a "real" Jeep must weight about 1100 pounds?
>
> And since weight is the only performance factor, I have found the ultimate
> Jeep for anyone that thinks so silly:
>
> It's even got dual batteries and it is painted like a "real" Jeep.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/r353
>
> Chris
>
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:3F8DC25A.BE40D2FE@cox.net...
> > How would your Rubicon perform at about one third it's weight, is
> > that enough of an explanation?
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > JimG wrote:
> > >
> > > Yea... please explain! I would love to have a stock Rubicon for the
> trail!
> > >
> > > --
> > > JimG
> > > 80' CJ-7, 258 CID
> > > 35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > 4.56 D30-D44 SOA
> > > D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
> > > LockRight F&R
>
>

Re: 6 cyl. YJ or 4 cyl. TJ?????????
 

Jeez! Why would you even want to? :-P

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90 SJ GW
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"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:43:25 -0700, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
> <----------@cox.net> shared the following:
>
> > Yes, Real Jeeps start at a designed 1275 pounds:
> >http://www.off-road.com/~early/history.html of course, my Real Jeep
> >still ways in at that: http://www.----------.com/46jeep.jpg
>
> Wow. With those tires it looks like you couldn't get enough traction
> to pull a greasy string out of a cat's @ss with a snatch-block rigged
> up. *chuckle*
>
>
>
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> :wq!

Re: 6 cyl. YJ or 4 cyl. TJ?????????
 

Jeez! Why would you even want to? :-P

--
Jim
--
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98



"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:43:25 -0700, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
> <----------@cox.net> shared the following:
>
> > Yes, Real Jeeps start at a designed 1275 pounds:
> >http://www.off-road.com/~early/history.html of course, my Real Jeep
> >still ways in at that: http://www.----------.com/46jeep.jpg
>
> Wow. With those tires it looks like you couldn't get enough traction
> to pull a greasy string out of a cat's @ss with a snatch-block rigged
> up. *chuckle*
>
>
>
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> :wq!

Re: 6 cyl. YJ or 4 cyl. TJ?????????
 

Jeez! Why would you even want to? :-P

--
Jim
--
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98



"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:pfnrov0c9beaopmjjuigfr1bqt4pqetfsi@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:43:25 -0700, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
> <----------@cox.net> shared the following:
>
> > Yes, Real Jeeps start at a designed 1275 pounds:
> >http://www.off-road.com/~early/history.html of course, my Real Jeep
> >still ways in at that: http://www.----------.com/46jeep.jpg
>
> Wow. With those tires it looks like you couldn't get enough traction
> to pull a greasy string out of a cat's @ss with a snatch-block rigged
> up. *chuckle*
>
>
>
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> :wq!

Re: 6 cyl. YJ or 4 cyl. TJ?????????
 

> > Generally, when talking about stock unmodified jeeps, the earlier the
> > production year, the more suitable for off-roading.
>
> please explain.

Well, just to name a few, off the top of my head:

1) CJs are easier to work on and modify than YJs, YJs are easier to
work on and modify than TJs. (Putting anything larger than 35s on a
TJ is a real nightmare of a project!)

2) Older vehicles are emissions exempt

3) The older the jeep, the lower the resale value, which is nice for
a trail rig that is going to see a lot of use and abuse. Most people
I see in factory fresh TJs, unless they are rich, are too concerned
about scratching their paint to follow where the well-worn CJs can go.

4) Older vehicles have some nice options available that are no longer
made, such as 8-cyl engines

5) Newer vehicles are loaded up with highway safety crap that is at
best marginal off-road, at worst a major hindrance. To name a few:
Airbags, ABS, IFS.

Re: 6 cyl. YJ or 4 cyl. TJ?????????
 

> > Generally, when talking about stock unmodified jeeps, the earlier the
> > production year, the more suitable for off-roading.
>
> please explain.

Well, just to name a few, off the top of my head:

1) CJs are easier to work on and modify than YJs, YJs are easier to
work on and modify than TJs. (Putting anything larger than 35s on a
TJ is a real nightmare of a project!)

2) Older vehicles are emissions exempt

3) The older the jeep, the lower the resale value, which is nice for
a trail rig that is going to see a lot of use and abuse. Most people
I see in factory fresh TJs, unless they are rich, are too concerned
about scratching their paint to follow where the well-worn CJs can go.

4) Older vehicles have some nice options available that are no longer
made, such as 8-cyl engines

5) Newer vehicles are loaded up with highway safety crap that is at
best marginal off-road, at worst a major hindrance. To name a few:
Airbags, ABS, IFS.

Re: 6 cyl. YJ or 4 cyl. TJ?????????
 

> > Generally, when talking about stock unmodified jeeps, the earlier the
> > production year, the more suitable for off-roading.
>
> please explain.

Well, just to name a few, off the top of my head:

1) CJs are easier to work on and modify than YJs, YJs are easier to
work on and modify than TJs. (Putting anything larger than 35s on a
TJ is a real nightmare of a project!)

2) Older vehicles are emissions exempt

3) The older the jeep, the lower the resale value, which is nice for
a trail rig that is going to see a lot of use and abuse. Most people
I see in factory fresh TJs, unless they are rich, are too concerned
about scratching their paint to follow where the well-worn CJs can go.

4) Older vehicles have some nice options available that are no longer
made, such as 8-cyl engines

5) Newer vehicles are loaded up with highway safety crap that is at
best marginal off-road, at worst a major hindrance. To name a few:
Airbags, ABS, IFS.

Re: 6 cyl. YJ or 4 cyl. TJ?????????
 

AHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA!

Joshua Nelson wrote:

>>>Generally, when talking about stock unmodified jeeps, the earlier the
>>>production year, the more suitable for off-roading.
>>
>>please explain.
>
>
> Well, just to name a few, off the top of my head:
>
> 1) CJs are easier to work on and modify than YJs, YJs are easier to
> work on and modify than TJs. (Putting anything larger than 35s on a
> TJ is a real nightmare of a project!)

Not one fiber of truth in that whole statement.


> 2) Older vehicles are emissions exempt

...and this has to do with offroading HOW??????


> 3) The older the jeep, the lower the resale value, which is nice for
> a trail rig that is going to see a lot of use and abuse. Most people
> I see in factory fresh TJs, unless they are rich, are too concerned
> about scratching their paint to follow where the well-worn CJs can go.
>
> 4) Older vehicles have some nice options available that are no longer
> made, such as 8-cyl engines

V8s are NOT a huge improvement over the I6 offroad, sorry. New paint??
Oh, come on!

>
> 5) Newer vehicles are loaded up with highway safety crap that is at
> best marginal off-road, at worst a major hindrance. To name a few:
> Airbags, ABS, IFS.

Um, sorry. No CJ, YJ nor TJ has ever had IFS. IFS can ONLY be found on
the Liberty which is not necessarily an "offroad" vehicle. At any rate,
it's not the subject of the thread. ABS is an option and airbags only go
off at higher speeds than are found offroad.

I suggest you go back to the Crayola box and leave mommie's computer alone.

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Re: 6 cyl. YJ or 4 cyl. TJ?????????
 

AHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA!

Joshua Nelson wrote:

>>>Generally, when talking about stock unmodified jeeps, the earlier the
>>>production year, the more suitable for off-roading.
>>
>>please explain.
>
>
> Well, just to name a few, off the top of my head:
>
> 1) CJs are easier to work on and modify than YJs, YJs are easier to
> work on and modify than TJs. (Putting anything larger than 35s on a
> TJ is a real nightmare of a project!)

Not one fiber of truth in that whole statement.


> 2) Older vehicles are emissions exempt

...and this has to do with offroading HOW??????


> 3) The older the jeep, the lower the resale value, which is nice for
> a trail rig that is going to see a lot of use and abuse. Most people
> I see in factory fresh TJs, unless they are rich, are too concerned
> about scratching their paint to follow where the well-worn CJs can go.
>
> 4) Older vehicles have some nice options available that are no longer
> made, such as 8-cyl engines

V8s are NOT a huge improvement over the I6 offroad, sorry. New paint??
Oh, come on!

>
> 5) Newer vehicles are loaded up with highway safety crap that is at
> best marginal off-road, at worst a major hindrance. To name a few:
> Airbags, ABS, IFS.

Um, sorry. No CJ, YJ nor TJ has ever had IFS. IFS can ONLY be found on
the Liberty which is not necessarily an "offroad" vehicle. At any rate,
it's not the subject of the thread. ABS is an option and airbags only go
off at higher speeds than are found offroad.

I suggest you go back to the Crayola box and leave mommie's computer alone.

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
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__________________________________________________ _________