6 cyl. YJ or 4 cyl. TJ?????????
10-15-2003, 09:21 PM
#101
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Re: 6 cyl. YJ or 4 cyl. TJ?????????
"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:39:25 -0700, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
> <----------@***.net> shared the following:
>
> > You remember the story, they had a Sergeant verified the weight by
> >lifting the prototype. Can you lift two thousand pounds? ;-)
he didnt lift the whole jeep, he lifted the back wheels off the ground.
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> On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:39:25 -0700, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
> <----------@***.net> shared the following:
>
> > You remember the story, they had a Sergeant verified the weight by
> >lifting the prototype. Can you lift two thousand pounds? ;-)
he didnt lift the whole jeep, he lifted the back wheels off the ground.
--
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10-15-2003, 09:21 PM
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Re: 6 cyl. YJ or 4 cyl. TJ?????????
"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:39:25 -0700, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
> <----------@***.net> shared the following:
>
> > You remember the story, they had a Sergeant verified the weight by
> >lifting the prototype. Can you lift two thousand pounds? ;-)
he didnt lift the whole jeep, he lifted the back wheels off the ground.
--
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news:nmqrov8krrv0f43dbu36aleu3jtnp589qm@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:39:25 -0700, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
> <----------@***.net> shared the following:
>
> > You remember the story, they had a Sergeant verified the weight by
> >lifting the prototype. Can you lift two thousand pounds? ;-)
he didnt lift the whole jeep, he lifted the back wheels off the ground.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
10-15-2003, 09:21 PM
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Re: 6 cyl. YJ or 4 cyl. TJ?????????
"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:39:25 -0700, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
> <----------@***.net> shared the following:
>
> > You remember the story, they had a Sergeant verified the weight by
> >lifting the prototype. Can you lift two thousand pounds? ;-)
he didnt lift the whole jeep, he lifted the back wheels off the ground.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
news:nmqrov8krrv0f43dbu36aleu3jtnp589qm@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:39:25 -0700, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
> <----------@***.net> shared the following:
>
> > You remember the story, they had a Sergeant verified the weight by
> >lifting the prototype. Can you lift two thousand pounds? ;-)
he didnt lift the whole jeep, he lifted the back wheels off the ground.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
10-15-2003, 10:45 PM
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Re: 6 cyl. YJ or 4 cyl. TJ?????????
Esty wrote:
>So I am currently in a quest to buy a YJ or a TJ....ideally i would like to
>stick with fuel injection....anywho from shopping around it looks like i
>could get a decent 6 cyl YJ or a 4 cyl TJ. Which should i go for...given I
>can actually save up the money! This would be a primarly off road vehicle,
>the only street driving would be to get to the trails!
>Thanks again!
>
If you have the time to save up enough, hold out for a 6 cyl TJ! Trust
me, you say you'll only drive it to the trails.....you'll be takin it to
work soon, shopping, puttering around town etc etc.
Here's my standard response to the 4 cyl vs 6cyl debate:
If you do any kind of hwy driving you definitely want the 6 cyl! The 4
is severely underpowered for hwy driving and if you want to pass anyone,
take a lunch! On the plus side, when off-roading, the 4 banger is as
good as any other motor!
Don’t even think about boosting the horsepower with things like K&N
filters, computer chips, throttle body spacers, headers, exhaust,
electric fans, ancient tribal dances, chinese incantations etc. By the
time you pay for all that, you might as well drop in a bigger motor, or
buy a jp with the 6 cyl in the first place.
The 4cyl has some other issues as well (this is all from 6 yrs
experience). Some of these may or may not be an issue with you, but they
warrant mentioning.
The only tranny to get is the 5spd (don't bother with the auto). No
problem right! Except if you want to pull any kind of trailer, it's too
weak to handle 5th gear when the trailer is loaded up. You end up in 4th
turning 3000 rpm at 100kph. Really bad gas mileage!
Lack of aftermarket parts for the motor. The aftermarket mfgs cater more
to the 4.0L guys.
You would think that the 4cyl would get better gas mileage (such that it
is with a Jeep), but after talking to 6cyl owners, the difference isn't
worth mentioning.
If you plan on putting bigger tires on the jeep, the 4cyl lack of power
will be exagerrated! We went from the stock 27 inch Goodyears to 30 inch
BFG ATs 2 years ago and there was a definite drop in hwy performance
when you hit ANY kind of incline, or trying to pass someone.
Having said all that, the 4 banger is a good motor. The gearing is
around 4.10:1 and believe me that is plenty good enough for around town
and on the trails. I’ve test driven a brand new Sport and although they
do have a lot more horsepower, because they’re geared at around 3.73:1
(or higher, depending on package) you don’t really feel a difference.
You will however notice it when passing or pulling!
As far as maintenance is concerned; don't worry about it. Our TJ has
185,000 km on it and it's been really good to us. I've replaced the rad,
replaced the pinion seal in the front diff twice, and had to get the
starter repaired and then replaced. Total cost to date Cdn $1100. That’s
0.006 cents per km (0.007 cents/mile) for maint $ (doesn't include fluid
changes and regular preventative mtce). Take care of it and it'll take
care of you!
Get the 6cyl, h/t and get yourself a soft top or bikini top for the summer.
>So I am currently in a quest to buy a YJ or a TJ....ideally i would like to
>stick with fuel injection....anywho from shopping around it looks like i
>could get a decent 6 cyl YJ or a 4 cyl TJ. Which should i go for...given I
>can actually save up the money! This would be a primarly off road vehicle,
>the only street driving would be to get to the trails!
>Thanks again!
>
If you have the time to save up enough, hold out for a 6 cyl TJ! Trust
me, you say you'll only drive it to the trails.....you'll be takin it to
work soon, shopping, puttering around town etc etc.
Here's my standard response to the 4 cyl vs 6cyl debate:
If you do any kind of hwy driving you definitely want the 6 cyl! The 4
is severely underpowered for hwy driving and if you want to pass anyone,
take a lunch! On the plus side, when off-roading, the 4 banger is as
good as any other motor!
Don’t even think about boosting the horsepower with things like K&N
filters, computer chips, throttle body spacers, headers, exhaust,
electric fans, ancient tribal dances, chinese incantations etc. By the
time you pay for all that, you might as well drop in a bigger motor, or
buy a jp with the 6 cyl in the first place.
The 4cyl has some other issues as well (this is all from 6 yrs
experience). Some of these may or may not be an issue with you, but they
warrant mentioning.
The only tranny to get is the 5spd (don't bother with the auto). No
problem right! Except if you want to pull any kind of trailer, it's too
weak to handle 5th gear when the trailer is loaded up. You end up in 4th
turning 3000 rpm at 100kph. Really bad gas mileage!
Lack of aftermarket parts for the motor. The aftermarket mfgs cater more
to the 4.0L guys.
You would think that the 4cyl would get better gas mileage (such that it
is with a Jeep), but after talking to 6cyl owners, the difference isn't
worth mentioning.
If you plan on putting bigger tires on the jeep, the 4cyl lack of power
will be exagerrated! We went from the stock 27 inch Goodyears to 30 inch
BFG ATs 2 years ago and there was a definite drop in hwy performance
when you hit ANY kind of incline, or trying to pass someone.
Having said all that, the 4 banger is a good motor. The gearing is
around 4.10:1 and believe me that is plenty good enough for around town
and on the trails. I’ve test driven a brand new Sport and although they
do have a lot more horsepower, because they’re geared at around 3.73:1
(or higher, depending on package) you don’t really feel a difference.
You will however notice it when passing or pulling!
As far as maintenance is concerned; don't worry about it. Our TJ has
185,000 km on it and it's been really good to us. I've replaced the rad,
replaced the pinion seal in the front diff twice, and had to get the
starter repaired and then replaced. Total cost to date Cdn $1100. That’s
0.006 cents per km (0.007 cents/mile) for maint $ (doesn't include fluid
changes and regular preventative mtce). Take care of it and it'll take
care of you!
Get the 6cyl, h/t and get yourself a soft top or bikini top for the summer.
10-15-2003, 10:45 PM
#105
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Re: 6 cyl. YJ or 4 cyl. TJ?????????
Esty wrote:
>So I am currently in a quest to buy a YJ or a TJ....ideally i would like to
>stick with fuel injection....anywho from shopping around it looks like i
>could get a decent 6 cyl YJ or a 4 cyl TJ. Which should i go for...given I
>can actually save up the money! This would be a primarly off road vehicle,
>the only street driving would be to get to the trails!
>Thanks again!
>
If you have the time to save up enough, hold out for a 6 cyl TJ! Trust
me, you say you'll only drive it to the trails.....you'll be takin it to
work soon, shopping, puttering around town etc etc.
Here's my standard response to the 4 cyl vs 6cyl debate:
If you do any kind of hwy driving you definitely want the 6 cyl! The 4
is severely underpowered for hwy driving and if you want to pass anyone,
take a lunch! On the plus side, when off-roading, the 4 banger is as
good as any other motor!
Don’t even think about boosting the horsepower with things like K&N
filters, computer chips, throttle body spacers, headers, exhaust,
electric fans, ancient tribal dances, chinese incantations etc. By the
time you pay for all that, you might as well drop in a bigger motor, or
buy a jp with the 6 cyl in the first place.
The 4cyl has some other issues as well (this is all from 6 yrs
experience). Some of these may or may not be an issue with you, but they
warrant mentioning.
The only tranny to get is the 5spd (don't bother with the auto). No
problem right! Except if you want to pull any kind of trailer, it's too
weak to handle 5th gear when the trailer is loaded up. You end up in 4th
turning 3000 rpm at 100kph. Really bad gas mileage!
Lack of aftermarket parts for the motor. The aftermarket mfgs cater more
to the 4.0L guys.
You would think that the 4cyl would get better gas mileage (such that it
is with a Jeep), but after talking to 6cyl owners, the difference isn't
worth mentioning.
If you plan on putting bigger tires on the jeep, the 4cyl lack of power
will be exagerrated! We went from the stock 27 inch Goodyears to 30 inch
BFG ATs 2 years ago and there was a definite drop in hwy performance
when you hit ANY kind of incline, or trying to pass someone.
Having said all that, the 4 banger is a good motor. The gearing is
around 4.10:1 and believe me that is plenty good enough for around town
and on the trails. I’ve test driven a brand new Sport and although they
do have a lot more horsepower, because they’re geared at around 3.73:1
(or higher, depending on package) you don’t really feel a difference.
You will however notice it when passing or pulling!
As far as maintenance is concerned; don't worry about it. Our TJ has
185,000 km on it and it's been really good to us. I've replaced the rad,
replaced the pinion seal in the front diff twice, and had to get the
starter repaired and then replaced. Total cost to date Cdn $1100. That’s
0.006 cents per km (0.007 cents/mile) for maint $ (doesn't include fluid
changes and regular preventative mtce). Take care of it and it'll take
care of you!
Get the 6cyl, h/t and get yourself a soft top or bikini top for the summer.
>So I am currently in a quest to buy a YJ or a TJ....ideally i would like to
>stick with fuel injection....anywho from shopping around it looks like i
>could get a decent 6 cyl YJ or a 4 cyl TJ. Which should i go for...given I
>can actually save up the money! This would be a primarly off road vehicle,
>the only street driving would be to get to the trails!
>Thanks again!
>
If you have the time to save up enough, hold out for a 6 cyl TJ! Trust
me, you say you'll only drive it to the trails.....you'll be takin it to
work soon, shopping, puttering around town etc etc.
Here's my standard response to the 4 cyl vs 6cyl debate:
If you do any kind of hwy driving you definitely want the 6 cyl! The 4
is severely underpowered for hwy driving and if you want to pass anyone,
take a lunch! On the plus side, when off-roading, the 4 banger is as
good as any other motor!
Don’t even think about boosting the horsepower with things like K&N
filters, computer chips, throttle body spacers, headers, exhaust,
electric fans, ancient tribal dances, chinese incantations etc. By the
time you pay for all that, you might as well drop in a bigger motor, or
buy a jp with the 6 cyl in the first place.
The 4cyl has some other issues as well (this is all from 6 yrs
experience). Some of these may or may not be an issue with you, but they
warrant mentioning.
The only tranny to get is the 5spd (don't bother with the auto). No
problem right! Except if you want to pull any kind of trailer, it's too
weak to handle 5th gear when the trailer is loaded up. You end up in 4th
turning 3000 rpm at 100kph. Really bad gas mileage!
Lack of aftermarket parts for the motor. The aftermarket mfgs cater more
to the 4.0L guys.
You would think that the 4cyl would get better gas mileage (such that it
is with a Jeep), but after talking to 6cyl owners, the difference isn't
worth mentioning.
If you plan on putting bigger tires on the jeep, the 4cyl lack of power
will be exagerrated! We went from the stock 27 inch Goodyears to 30 inch
BFG ATs 2 years ago and there was a definite drop in hwy performance
when you hit ANY kind of incline, or trying to pass someone.
Having said all that, the 4 banger is a good motor. The gearing is
around 4.10:1 and believe me that is plenty good enough for around town
and on the trails. I’ve test driven a brand new Sport and although they
do have a lot more horsepower, because they’re geared at around 3.73:1
(or higher, depending on package) you don’t really feel a difference.
You will however notice it when passing or pulling!
As far as maintenance is concerned; don't worry about it. Our TJ has
185,000 km on it and it's been really good to us. I've replaced the rad,
replaced the pinion seal in the front diff twice, and had to get the
starter repaired and then replaced. Total cost to date Cdn $1100. That’s
0.006 cents per km (0.007 cents/mile) for maint $ (doesn't include fluid
changes and regular preventative mtce). Take care of it and it'll take
care of you!
Get the 6cyl, h/t and get yourself a soft top or bikini top for the summer.
10-15-2003, 10:45 PM
#106
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Re: 6 cyl. YJ or 4 cyl. TJ?????????
Esty wrote:
>So I am currently in a quest to buy a YJ or a TJ....ideally i would like to
>stick with fuel injection....anywho from shopping around it looks like i
>could get a decent 6 cyl YJ or a 4 cyl TJ. Which should i go for...given I
>can actually save up the money! This would be a primarly off road vehicle,
>the only street driving would be to get to the trails!
>Thanks again!
>
If you have the time to save up enough, hold out for a 6 cyl TJ! Trust
me, you say you'll only drive it to the trails.....you'll be takin it to
work soon, shopping, puttering around town etc etc.
Here's my standard response to the 4 cyl vs 6cyl debate:
If you do any kind of hwy driving you definitely want the 6 cyl! The 4
is severely underpowered for hwy driving and if you want to pass anyone,
take a lunch! On the plus side, when off-roading, the 4 banger is as
good as any other motor!
Don’t even think about boosting the horsepower with things like K&N
filters, computer chips, throttle body spacers, headers, exhaust,
electric fans, ancient tribal dances, chinese incantations etc. By the
time you pay for all that, you might as well drop in a bigger motor, or
buy a jp with the 6 cyl in the first place.
The 4cyl has some other issues as well (this is all from 6 yrs
experience). Some of these may or may not be an issue with you, but they
warrant mentioning.
The only tranny to get is the 5spd (don't bother with the auto). No
problem right! Except if you want to pull any kind of trailer, it's too
weak to handle 5th gear when the trailer is loaded up. You end up in 4th
turning 3000 rpm at 100kph. Really bad gas mileage!
Lack of aftermarket parts for the motor. The aftermarket mfgs cater more
to the 4.0L guys.
You would think that the 4cyl would get better gas mileage (such that it
is with a Jeep), but after talking to 6cyl owners, the difference isn't
worth mentioning.
If you plan on putting bigger tires on the jeep, the 4cyl lack of power
will be exagerrated! We went from the stock 27 inch Goodyears to 30 inch
BFG ATs 2 years ago and there was a definite drop in hwy performance
when you hit ANY kind of incline, or trying to pass someone.
Having said all that, the 4 banger is a good motor. The gearing is
around 4.10:1 and believe me that is plenty good enough for around town
and on the trails. I’ve test driven a brand new Sport and although they
do have a lot more horsepower, because they’re geared at around 3.73:1
(or higher, depending on package) you don’t really feel a difference.
You will however notice it when passing or pulling!
As far as maintenance is concerned; don't worry about it. Our TJ has
185,000 km on it and it's been really good to us. I've replaced the rad,
replaced the pinion seal in the front diff twice, and had to get the
starter repaired and then replaced. Total cost to date Cdn $1100. That’s
0.006 cents per km (0.007 cents/mile) for maint $ (doesn't include fluid
changes and regular preventative mtce). Take care of it and it'll take
care of you!
Get the 6cyl, h/t and get yourself a soft top or bikini top for the summer.
>So I am currently in a quest to buy a YJ or a TJ....ideally i would like to
>stick with fuel injection....anywho from shopping around it looks like i
>could get a decent 6 cyl YJ or a 4 cyl TJ. Which should i go for...given I
>can actually save up the money! This would be a primarly off road vehicle,
>the only street driving would be to get to the trails!
>Thanks again!
>
If you have the time to save up enough, hold out for a 6 cyl TJ! Trust
me, you say you'll only drive it to the trails.....you'll be takin it to
work soon, shopping, puttering around town etc etc.
Here's my standard response to the 4 cyl vs 6cyl debate:
If you do any kind of hwy driving you definitely want the 6 cyl! The 4
is severely underpowered for hwy driving and if you want to pass anyone,
take a lunch! On the plus side, when off-roading, the 4 banger is as
good as any other motor!
Don’t even think about boosting the horsepower with things like K&N
filters, computer chips, throttle body spacers, headers, exhaust,
electric fans, ancient tribal dances, chinese incantations etc. By the
time you pay for all that, you might as well drop in a bigger motor, or
buy a jp with the 6 cyl in the first place.
The 4cyl has some other issues as well (this is all from 6 yrs
experience). Some of these may or may not be an issue with you, but they
warrant mentioning.
The only tranny to get is the 5spd (don't bother with the auto). No
problem right! Except if you want to pull any kind of trailer, it's too
weak to handle 5th gear when the trailer is loaded up. You end up in 4th
turning 3000 rpm at 100kph. Really bad gas mileage!
Lack of aftermarket parts for the motor. The aftermarket mfgs cater more
to the 4.0L guys.
You would think that the 4cyl would get better gas mileage (such that it
is with a Jeep), but after talking to 6cyl owners, the difference isn't
worth mentioning.
If you plan on putting bigger tires on the jeep, the 4cyl lack of power
will be exagerrated! We went from the stock 27 inch Goodyears to 30 inch
BFG ATs 2 years ago and there was a definite drop in hwy performance
when you hit ANY kind of incline, or trying to pass someone.
Having said all that, the 4 banger is a good motor. The gearing is
around 4.10:1 and believe me that is plenty good enough for around town
and on the trails. I’ve test driven a brand new Sport and although they
do have a lot more horsepower, because they’re geared at around 3.73:1
(or higher, depending on package) you don’t really feel a difference.
You will however notice it when passing or pulling!
As far as maintenance is concerned; don't worry about it. Our TJ has
185,000 km on it and it's been really good to us. I've replaced the rad,
replaced the pinion seal in the front diff twice, and had to get the
starter repaired and then replaced. Total cost to date Cdn $1100. That’s
0.006 cents per km (0.007 cents/mile) for maint $ (doesn't include fluid
changes and regular preventative mtce). Take care of it and it'll take
care of you!
Get the 6cyl, h/t and get yourself a soft top or bikini top for the summer.
10-15-2003, 11:19 PM
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Re: 6 cyl. YJ or 4 cyl. TJ?????????
"GzrGlide" <GzrGlide02@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
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> Here's my standard response to the 4 cyl vs 6cyl debate:
do the write up already......
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http://7SlotGrille.com
news:RHnjb.32148$uz1.51882@news1.mts.net...
> Here's my standard response to the 4 cyl vs 6cyl debate:
do the write up already......
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
10-15-2003, 11:19 PM
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Re: 6 cyl. YJ or 4 cyl. TJ?????????
"GzrGlide" <GzrGlide02@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
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> Here's my standard response to the 4 cyl vs 6cyl debate:
do the write up already......
--
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http://7SlotGrille.com
news:RHnjb.32148$uz1.51882@news1.mts.net...
> Here's my standard response to the 4 cyl vs 6cyl debate:
do the write up already......
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
10-15-2003, 11:19 PM
#109
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Re: 6 cyl. YJ or 4 cyl. TJ?????????
"GzrGlide" <GzrGlide02@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
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> Here's my standard response to the 4 cyl vs 6cyl debate:
do the write up already......
--
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http://7SlotGrille.com
news:RHnjb.32148$uz1.51882@news1.mts.net...
> Here's my standard response to the 4 cyl vs 6cyl debate:
do the write up already......
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
10-15-2003, 11:19 PM
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Re: 6 cyl. YJ or 4 cyl. TJ?????????
In article <3F8CE341.A9370534@***.net>,
L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote:
> The YJ has Real Jeep like leaf springs, then of course you could
>afford the six that would run circles around the TJ, that could only
>watch you from the bottom of the hill.
Yea. Say it like you mean it Bill. Leaf it or lump it. Of course
we can get into the square headlight thing and that's another story.
hehe.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>Esty wrote:
>>
>> So I am currently in a quest to buy a YJ or a TJ....ideally i would like to
>> stick with fuel injection....anywho from shopping around it looks like i
>> could get a decent 6 cyl YJ or a 4 cyl TJ. Which should i go for...given I
>> can actually save up the money! This would be a primarly off road vehicle,
>> the only street driving would be to get to the trails!
>> Thanks again!
--
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L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote:
> The YJ has Real Jeep like leaf springs, then of course you could
>afford the six that would run circles around the TJ, that could only
>watch you from the bottom of the hill.
Yea. Say it like you mean it Bill. Leaf it or lump it. Of course
we can get into the square headlight thing and that's another story.
hehe.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>Esty wrote:
>>
>> So I am currently in a quest to buy a YJ or a TJ....ideally i would like to
>> stick with fuel injection....anywho from shopping around it looks like i
>> could get a decent 6 cyl YJ or a 4 cyl TJ. Which should i go for...given I
>> can actually save up the money! This would be a primarly off road vehicle,
>> the only street driving would be to get to the trails!
>> Thanks again!
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