4 banger starter/electrical issues
08-16-2004, 11:29 AM
#11
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Re: 4 banger starter/electrical issues
Well after replacing the starter with the new lifetime warrantied
starter, it still didn't work.
Went and bought a new relay, still no change.
Checked all the grounds and cleaned them all again. Still no change.
Took the starter out, left it connected to it's power source, and had
my wife start it while I watched the starter. Nothing.
Took the starter and battery out and had them load tested.
Both tested ok.
Now I was pissed!
I decided to do a voltage drop test between the post and clamp on the
battery. BINGO! Power at the post, but hardly any at the clamp.
Cleaned the battery connections again (did that just before we went on
holidays), and that fixed the problem! Yahoo.....until....
Friday night we're leaving a friends place and the starter is making a
horrible noise. Thought it didn't dis-engage from the flywheel, so I
shut the motor off thinking that that the starter would disengage.
Nope! The starter is still humming away like a bat out of hell. Before
I could get to the battery to disconnect the power source, the starter
went "ping" and died. That thing got so hot it discolored the case!
Very ugly!
Called the parts store and they tell that not only can they not get me
a new one till Monday, but that the computer says they don't carry
them anymore!!!!! That doesn't help me, since the jp is our only
running 4 wheeled transportation.
I ended up push starting the jp, and spending Saturday morning looking
for a new starter. Finally found one and all is well again.
But now I have to go back to Parts Source and resolve this starter and
"non-honouring" warranty issue!
Thanks for lisening, and al the input/ideas you've given. In the end
it was the battery connection.
> >>GzrGlide wrote:
<snip>
> >>What typically happens is that when the key is turned, there's a
> >>"click" from the solenoid and that's it. I can either keep trying and
> >>sometimes it'll catch and start, or lately what I had to do was
> >>disconnect the positive cable from the battery, reconnect it and
> >>presto it would start.
> >>
> >>Had the system checked by a dealer and they told me it was a dead spot
> >>in the starter and that it could last a day, or maybe a year. Hard to
> >>say.
<snip>
> >>Thanks;
> >>Mike
> >>98 TJ SE
starter, it still didn't work.
Went and bought a new relay, still no change.
Checked all the grounds and cleaned them all again. Still no change.
Took the starter out, left it connected to it's power source, and had
my wife start it while I watched the starter. Nothing.
Took the starter and battery out and had them load tested.
Both tested ok.
Now I was pissed!
I decided to do a voltage drop test between the post and clamp on the
battery. BINGO! Power at the post, but hardly any at the clamp.
Cleaned the battery connections again (did that just before we went on
holidays), and that fixed the problem! Yahoo.....until....
Friday night we're leaving a friends place and the starter is making a
horrible noise. Thought it didn't dis-engage from the flywheel, so I
shut the motor off thinking that that the starter would disengage.
Nope! The starter is still humming away like a bat out of hell. Before
I could get to the battery to disconnect the power source, the starter
went "ping" and died. That thing got so hot it discolored the case!
Very ugly!
Called the parts store and they tell that not only can they not get me
a new one till Monday, but that the computer says they don't carry
them anymore!!!!! That doesn't help me, since the jp is our only
running 4 wheeled transportation.
I ended up push starting the jp, and spending Saturday morning looking
for a new starter. Finally found one and all is well again.
But now I have to go back to Parts Source and resolve this starter and
"non-honouring" warranty issue!
Thanks for lisening, and al the input/ideas you've given. In the end
it was the battery connection.
> >>GzrGlide wrote:
<snip>
> >>What typically happens is that when the key is turned, there's a
> >>"click" from the solenoid and that's it. I can either keep trying and
> >>sometimes it'll catch and start, or lately what I had to do was
> >>disconnect the positive cable from the battery, reconnect it and
> >>presto it would start.
> >>
> >>Had the system checked by a dealer and they told me it was a dead spot
> >>in the starter and that it could last a day, or maybe a year. Hard to
> >>say.
<snip>
> >>Thanks;
> >>Mike
> >>98 TJ SE
08-16-2004, 11:29 AM
#12
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Re: 4 banger starter/electrical issues
Well after replacing the starter with the new lifetime warrantied
starter, it still didn't work.
Went and bought a new relay, still no change.
Checked all the grounds and cleaned them all again. Still no change.
Took the starter out, left it connected to it's power source, and had
my wife start it while I watched the starter. Nothing.
Took the starter and battery out and had them load tested.
Both tested ok.
Now I was pissed!
I decided to do a voltage drop test between the post and clamp on the
battery. BINGO! Power at the post, but hardly any at the clamp.
Cleaned the battery connections again (did that just before we went on
holidays), and that fixed the problem! Yahoo.....until....
Friday night we're leaving a friends place and the starter is making a
horrible noise. Thought it didn't dis-engage from the flywheel, so I
shut the motor off thinking that that the starter would disengage.
Nope! The starter is still humming away like a bat out of hell. Before
I could get to the battery to disconnect the power source, the starter
went "ping" and died. That thing got so hot it discolored the case!
Very ugly!
Called the parts store and they tell that not only can they not get me
a new one till Monday, but that the computer says they don't carry
them anymore!!!!! That doesn't help me, since the jp is our only
running 4 wheeled transportation.
I ended up push starting the jp, and spending Saturday morning looking
for a new starter. Finally found one and all is well again.
But now I have to go back to Parts Source and resolve this starter and
"non-honouring" warranty issue!
Thanks for lisening, and al the input/ideas you've given. In the end
it was the battery connection.
> >>GzrGlide wrote:
<snip>
> >>What typically happens is that when the key is turned, there's a
> >>"click" from the solenoid and that's it. I can either keep trying and
> >>sometimes it'll catch and start, or lately what I had to do was
> >>disconnect the positive cable from the battery, reconnect it and
> >>presto it would start.
> >>
> >>Had the system checked by a dealer and they told me it was a dead spot
> >>in the starter and that it could last a day, or maybe a year. Hard to
> >>say.
<snip>
> >>Thanks;
> >>Mike
> >>98 TJ SE
starter, it still didn't work.
Went and bought a new relay, still no change.
Checked all the grounds and cleaned them all again. Still no change.
Took the starter out, left it connected to it's power source, and had
my wife start it while I watched the starter. Nothing.
Took the starter and battery out and had them load tested.
Both tested ok.
Now I was pissed!
I decided to do a voltage drop test between the post and clamp on the
battery. BINGO! Power at the post, but hardly any at the clamp.
Cleaned the battery connections again (did that just before we went on
holidays), and that fixed the problem! Yahoo.....until....
Friday night we're leaving a friends place and the starter is making a
horrible noise. Thought it didn't dis-engage from the flywheel, so I
shut the motor off thinking that that the starter would disengage.
Nope! The starter is still humming away like a bat out of hell. Before
I could get to the battery to disconnect the power source, the starter
went "ping" and died. That thing got so hot it discolored the case!
Very ugly!
Called the parts store and they tell that not only can they not get me
a new one till Monday, but that the computer says they don't carry
them anymore!!!!! That doesn't help me, since the jp is our only
running 4 wheeled transportation.
I ended up push starting the jp, and spending Saturday morning looking
for a new starter. Finally found one and all is well again.
But now I have to go back to Parts Source and resolve this starter and
"non-honouring" warranty issue!
Thanks for lisening, and al the input/ideas you've given. In the end
it was the battery connection.
> >>GzrGlide wrote:
<snip>
> >>What typically happens is that when the key is turned, there's a
> >>"click" from the solenoid and that's it. I can either keep trying and
> >>sometimes it'll catch and start, or lately what I had to do was
> >>disconnect the positive cable from the battery, reconnect it and
> >>presto it would start.
> >>
> >>Had the system checked by a dealer and they told me it was a dead spot
> >>in the starter and that it could last a day, or maybe a year. Hard to
> >>say.
<snip>
> >>Thanks;
> >>Mike
> >>98 TJ SE
08-16-2004, 11:29 AM
#13
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Re: 4 banger starter/electrical issues
Well after replacing the starter with the new lifetime warrantied
starter, it still didn't work.
Went and bought a new relay, still no change.
Checked all the grounds and cleaned them all again. Still no change.
Took the starter out, left it connected to it's power source, and had
my wife start it while I watched the starter. Nothing.
Took the starter and battery out and had them load tested.
Both tested ok.
Now I was pissed!
I decided to do a voltage drop test between the post and clamp on the
battery. BINGO! Power at the post, but hardly any at the clamp.
Cleaned the battery connections again (did that just before we went on
holidays), and that fixed the problem! Yahoo.....until....
Friday night we're leaving a friends place and the starter is making a
horrible noise. Thought it didn't dis-engage from the flywheel, so I
shut the motor off thinking that that the starter would disengage.
Nope! The starter is still humming away like a bat out of hell. Before
I could get to the battery to disconnect the power source, the starter
went "ping" and died. That thing got so hot it discolored the case!
Very ugly!
Called the parts store and they tell that not only can they not get me
a new one till Monday, but that the computer says they don't carry
them anymore!!!!! That doesn't help me, since the jp is our only
running 4 wheeled transportation.
I ended up push starting the jp, and spending Saturday morning looking
for a new starter. Finally found one and all is well again.
But now I have to go back to Parts Source and resolve this starter and
"non-honouring" warranty issue!
Thanks for lisening, and al the input/ideas you've given. In the end
it was the battery connection.
> >>GzrGlide wrote:
<snip>
> >>What typically happens is that when the key is turned, there's a
> >>"click" from the solenoid and that's it. I can either keep trying and
> >>sometimes it'll catch and start, or lately what I had to do was
> >>disconnect the positive cable from the battery, reconnect it and
> >>presto it would start.
> >>
> >>Had the system checked by a dealer and they told me it was a dead spot
> >>in the starter and that it could last a day, or maybe a year. Hard to
> >>say.
<snip>
> >>Thanks;
> >>Mike
> >>98 TJ SE
starter, it still didn't work.
Went and bought a new relay, still no change.
Checked all the grounds and cleaned them all again. Still no change.
Took the starter out, left it connected to it's power source, and had
my wife start it while I watched the starter. Nothing.
Took the starter and battery out and had them load tested.
Both tested ok.
Now I was pissed!
I decided to do a voltage drop test between the post and clamp on the
battery. BINGO! Power at the post, but hardly any at the clamp.
Cleaned the battery connections again (did that just before we went on
holidays), and that fixed the problem! Yahoo.....until....
Friday night we're leaving a friends place and the starter is making a
horrible noise. Thought it didn't dis-engage from the flywheel, so I
shut the motor off thinking that that the starter would disengage.
Nope! The starter is still humming away like a bat out of hell. Before
I could get to the battery to disconnect the power source, the starter
went "ping" and died. That thing got so hot it discolored the case!
Very ugly!
Called the parts store and they tell that not only can they not get me
a new one till Monday, but that the computer says they don't carry
them anymore!!!!! That doesn't help me, since the jp is our only
running 4 wheeled transportation.
I ended up push starting the jp, and spending Saturday morning looking
for a new starter. Finally found one and all is well again.
But now I have to go back to Parts Source and resolve this starter and
"non-honouring" warranty issue!
Thanks for lisening, and al the input/ideas you've given. In the end
it was the battery connection.
> >>GzrGlide wrote:
<snip>
> >>What typically happens is that when the key is turned, there's a
> >>"click" from the solenoid and that's it. I can either keep trying and
> >>sometimes it'll catch and start, or lately what I had to do was
> >>disconnect the positive cable from the battery, reconnect it and
> >>presto it would start.
> >>
> >>Had the system checked by a dealer and they told me it was a dead spot
> >>in the starter and that it could last a day, or maybe a year. Hard to
> >>say.
<snip>
> >>Thanks;
> >>Mike
> >>98 TJ SE
08-16-2004, 03:17 PM
#14
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Re: 4 banger starter/electrical issues
You still have a problem with your starter solenoid, replace it.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
GzrGlide wrote:
>
> Well after replacing the starter with the new lifetime warrantied
> starter, it still didn't work.
> Went and bought a new relay, still no change.
> Checked all the grounds and cleaned them all again. Still no change.
> Took the starter out, left it connected to it's power source, and had
> my wife start it while I watched the starter. Nothing.
> Took the starter and battery out and had them load tested.
> Both tested ok.
> Now I was pissed!
>
> I decided to do a voltage drop test between the post and clamp on the
> battery. BINGO! Power at the post, but hardly any at the clamp.
> Cleaned the battery connections again (did that just before we went on
> holidays), and that fixed the problem! Yahoo.....until....
>
> Friday night we're leaving a friends place and the starter is making a
> horrible noise. Thought it didn't dis-engage from the flywheel, so I
> shut the motor off thinking that that the starter would disengage.
> Nope! The starter is still humming away like a bat out of hell. Before
> I could get to the battery to disconnect the power source, the starter
> went "ping" and died. That thing got so hot it discolored the case!
> Very ugly!
> Called the parts store and they tell that not only can they not get me
> a new one till Monday, but that the computer says they don't carry
> them anymore!!!!! That doesn't help me, since the jp is our only
> running 4 wheeled transportation.
>
> I ended up push starting the jp, and spending Saturday morning looking
> for a new starter. Finally found one and all is well again.
>
> But now I have to go back to Parts Source and resolve this starter and
> "non-honouring" warranty issue!
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
GzrGlide wrote:
>
> Well after replacing the starter with the new lifetime warrantied
> starter, it still didn't work.
> Went and bought a new relay, still no change.
> Checked all the grounds and cleaned them all again. Still no change.
> Took the starter out, left it connected to it's power source, and had
> my wife start it while I watched the starter. Nothing.
> Took the starter and battery out and had them load tested.
> Both tested ok.
> Now I was pissed!
>
> I decided to do a voltage drop test between the post and clamp on the
> battery. BINGO! Power at the post, but hardly any at the clamp.
> Cleaned the battery connections again (did that just before we went on
> holidays), and that fixed the problem! Yahoo.....until....
>
> Friday night we're leaving a friends place and the starter is making a
> horrible noise. Thought it didn't dis-engage from the flywheel, so I
> shut the motor off thinking that that the starter would disengage.
> Nope! The starter is still humming away like a bat out of hell. Before
> I could get to the battery to disconnect the power source, the starter
> went "ping" and died. That thing got so hot it discolored the case!
> Very ugly!
> Called the parts store and they tell that not only can they not get me
> a new one till Monday, but that the computer says they don't carry
> them anymore!!!!! That doesn't help me, since the jp is our only
> running 4 wheeled transportation.
>
> I ended up push starting the jp, and spending Saturday morning looking
> for a new starter. Finally found one and all is well again.
>
> But now I have to go back to Parts Source and resolve this starter and
> "non-honouring" warranty issue!
08-16-2004, 03:17 PM
#15
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Re: 4 banger starter/electrical issues
You still have a problem with your starter solenoid, replace it.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
GzrGlide wrote:
>
> Well after replacing the starter with the new lifetime warrantied
> starter, it still didn't work.
> Went and bought a new relay, still no change.
> Checked all the grounds and cleaned them all again. Still no change.
> Took the starter out, left it connected to it's power source, and had
> my wife start it while I watched the starter. Nothing.
> Took the starter and battery out and had them load tested.
> Both tested ok.
> Now I was pissed!
>
> I decided to do a voltage drop test between the post and clamp on the
> battery. BINGO! Power at the post, but hardly any at the clamp.
> Cleaned the battery connections again (did that just before we went on
> holidays), and that fixed the problem! Yahoo.....until....
>
> Friday night we're leaving a friends place and the starter is making a
> horrible noise. Thought it didn't dis-engage from the flywheel, so I
> shut the motor off thinking that that the starter would disengage.
> Nope! The starter is still humming away like a bat out of hell. Before
> I could get to the battery to disconnect the power source, the starter
> went "ping" and died. That thing got so hot it discolored the case!
> Very ugly!
> Called the parts store and they tell that not only can they not get me
> a new one till Monday, but that the computer says they don't carry
> them anymore!!!!! That doesn't help me, since the jp is our only
> running 4 wheeled transportation.
>
> I ended up push starting the jp, and spending Saturday morning looking
> for a new starter. Finally found one and all is well again.
>
> But now I have to go back to Parts Source and resolve this starter and
> "non-honouring" warranty issue!
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
GzrGlide wrote:
>
> Well after replacing the starter with the new lifetime warrantied
> starter, it still didn't work.
> Went and bought a new relay, still no change.
> Checked all the grounds and cleaned them all again. Still no change.
> Took the starter out, left it connected to it's power source, and had
> my wife start it while I watched the starter. Nothing.
> Took the starter and battery out and had them load tested.
> Both tested ok.
> Now I was pissed!
>
> I decided to do a voltage drop test between the post and clamp on the
> battery. BINGO! Power at the post, but hardly any at the clamp.
> Cleaned the battery connections again (did that just before we went on
> holidays), and that fixed the problem! Yahoo.....until....
>
> Friday night we're leaving a friends place and the starter is making a
> horrible noise. Thought it didn't dis-engage from the flywheel, so I
> shut the motor off thinking that that the starter would disengage.
> Nope! The starter is still humming away like a bat out of hell. Before
> I could get to the battery to disconnect the power source, the starter
> went "ping" and died. That thing got so hot it discolored the case!
> Very ugly!
> Called the parts store and they tell that not only can they not get me
> a new one till Monday, but that the computer says they don't carry
> them anymore!!!!! That doesn't help me, since the jp is our only
> running 4 wheeled transportation.
>
> I ended up push starting the jp, and spending Saturday morning looking
> for a new starter. Finally found one and all is well again.
>
> But now I have to go back to Parts Source and resolve this starter and
> "non-honouring" warranty issue!
08-16-2004, 03:17 PM
#16
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Re: 4 banger starter/electrical issues
You still have a problem with your starter solenoid, replace it.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
GzrGlide wrote:
>
> Well after replacing the starter with the new lifetime warrantied
> starter, it still didn't work.
> Went and bought a new relay, still no change.
> Checked all the grounds and cleaned them all again. Still no change.
> Took the starter out, left it connected to it's power source, and had
> my wife start it while I watched the starter. Nothing.
> Took the starter and battery out and had them load tested.
> Both tested ok.
> Now I was pissed!
>
> I decided to do a voltage drop test between the post and clamp on the
> battery. BINGO! Power at the post, but hardly any at the clamp.
> Cleaned the battery connections again (did that just before we went on
> holidays), and that fixed the problem! Yahoo.....until....
>
> Friday night we're leaving a friends place and the starter is making a
> horrible noise. Thought it didn't dis-engage from the flywheel, so I
> shut the motor off thinking that that the starter would disengage.
> Nope! The starter is still humming away like a bat out of hell. Before
> I could get to the battery to disconnect the power source, the starter
> went "ping" and died. That thing got so hot it discolored the case!
> Very ugly!
> Called the parts store and they tell that not only can they not get me
> a new one till Monday, but that the computer says they don't carry
> them anymore!!!!! That doesn't help me, since the jp is our only
> running 4 wheeled transportation.
>
> I ended up push starting the jp, and spending Saturday morning looking
> for a new starter. Finally found one and all is well again.
>
> But now I have to go back to Parts Source and resolve this starter and
> "non-honouring" warranty issue!
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
GzrGlide wrote:
>
> Well after replacing the starter with the new lifetime warrantied
> starter, it still didn't work.
> Went and bought a new relay, still no change.
> Checked all the grounds and cleaned them all again. Still no change.
> Took the starter out, left it connected to it's power source, and had
> my wife start it while I watched the starter. Nothing.
> Took the starter and battery out and had them load tested.
> Both tested ok.
> Now I was pissed!
>
> I decided to do a voltage drop test between the post and clamp on the
> battery. BINGO! Power at the post, but hardly any at the clamp.
> Cleaned the battery connections again (did that just before we went on
> holidays), and that fixed the problem! Yahoo.....until....
>
> Friday night we're leaving a friends place and the starter is making a
> horrible noise. Thought it didn't dis-engage from the flywheel, so I
> shut the motor off thinking that that the starter would disengage.
> Nope! The starter is still humming away like a bat out of hell. Before
> I could get to the battery to disconnect the power source, the starter
> went "ping" and died. That thing got so hot it discolored the case!
> Very ugly!
> Called the parts store and they tell that not only can they not get me
> a new one till Monday, but that the computer says they don't carry
> them anymore!!!!! That doesn't help me, since the jp is our only
> running 4 wheeled transportation.
>
> I ended up push starting the jp, and spending Saturday morning looking
> for a new starter. Finally found one and all is well again.
>
> But now I have to go back to Parts Source and resolve this starter and
> "non-honouring" warranty issue!
08-16-2004, 03:17 PM
#17
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Posts: n/a
Re: 4 banger starter/electrical issues
You still have a problem with your starter solenoid, replace it.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
GzrGlide wrote:
>
> Well after replacing the starter with the new lifetime warrantied
> starter, it still didn't work.
> Went and bought a new relay, still no change.
> Checked all the grounds and cleaned them all again. Still no change.
> Took the starter out, left it connected to it's power source, and had
> my wife start it while I watched the starter. Nothing.
> Took the starter and battery out and had them load tested.
> Both tested ok.
> Now I was pissed!
>
> I decided to do a voltage drop test between the post and clamp on the
> battery. BINGO! Power at the post, but hardly any at the clamp.
> Cleaned the battery connections again (did that just before we went on
> holidays), and that fixed the problem! Yahoo.....until....
>
> Friday night we're leaving a friends place and the starter is making a
> horrible noise. Thought it didn't dis-engage from the flywheel, so I
> shut the motor off thinking that that the starter would disengage.
> Nope! The starter is still humming away like a bat out of hell. Before
> I could get to the battery to disconnect the power source, the starter
> went "ping" and died. That thing got so hot it discolored the case!
> Very ugly!
> Called the parts store and they tell that not only can they not get me
> a new one till Monday, but that the computer says they don't carry
> them anymore!!!!! That doesn't help me, since the jp is our only
> running 4 wheeled transportation.
>
> I ended up push starting the jp, and spending Saturday morning looking
> for a new starter. Finally found one and all is well again.
>
> But now I have to go back to Parts Source and resolve this starter and
> "non-honouring" warranty issue!
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
GzrGlide wrote:
>
> Well after replacing the starter with the new lifetime warrantied
> starter, it still didn't work.
> Went and bought a new relay, still no change.
> Checked all the grounds and cleaned them all again. Still no change.
> Took the starter out, left it connected to it's power source, and had
> my wife start it while I watched the starter. Nothing.
> Took the starter and battery out and had them load tested.
> Both tested ok.
> Now I was pissed!
>
> I decided to do a voltage drop test between the post and clamp on the
> battery. BINGO! Power at the post, but hardly any at the clamp.
> Cleaned the battery connections again (did that just before we went on
> holidays), and that fixed the problem! Yahoo.....until....
>
> Friday night we're leaving a friends place and the starter is making a
> horrible noise. Thought it didn't dis-engage from the flywheel, so I
> shut the motor off thinking that that the starter would disengage.
> Nope! The starter is still humming away like a bat out of hell. Before
> I could get to the battery to disconnect the power source, the starter
> went "ping" and died. That thing got so hot it discolored the case!
> Very ugly!
> Called the parts store and they tell that not only can they not get me
> a new one till Monday, but that the computer says they don't carry
> them anymore!!!!! That doesn't help me, since the jp is our only
> running 4 wheeled transportation.
>
> I ended up push starting the jp, and spending Saturday morning looking
> for a new starter. Finally found one and all is well again.
>
> But now I have to go back to Parts Source and resolve this starter and
> "non-honouring" warranty issue!
08-16-2004, 08:11 PM
#18
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Re: 4 banger starter/electrical issues
Nope!
Solenoid is part of the starter ( I wish it was the external ford type)
so when I replaced the starter with the new one, the solenoid was
replaced as well.
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> You still have a problem with your starter solenoid, replace it.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>GzrGlide wrote:
>
>
>>Well after replacing the starter with the new lifetime warrantied
>>starter, it still didn't work.
>>Went and bought a new relay, still no change.
>>Checked all the grounds and cleaned them all again. Still no change.
>>Took the starter out, left it connected to it's power source, and had
>>my wife start it while I watched the starter. Nothing.
>>Took the starter and battery out and had them load tested.
>>Both tested ok.
>>Now I was pissed!
>>
>>I decided to do a voltage drop test between the post and clamp on the
>>battery. BINGO! Power at the post, but hardly any at the clamp.
>>Cleaned the battery connections again (did that just before we went on
>>holidays), and that fixed the problem! Yahoo.....until....
>>
>>Friday night we're leaving a friends place and the starter is making a
>>horrible noise. Thought it didn't dis-engage from the flywheel, so I
>>shut the motor off thinking that that the starter would disengage.
>>Nope! The starter is still humming away like a bat out of hell. Before
>>I could get to the battery to disconnect the power source, the starter
>>went "ping" and died. That thing got so hot it discolored the case!
>>Very ugly!
>>Called the parts store and they tell that not only can they not get me
>>a new one till Monday, but that the computer says they don't carry
>>them anymore!!!!! That doesn't help me, since the jp is our only
>>running 4 wheeled transportation.
>>
>>I ended up push starting the jp, and spending Saturday morning looking
>>for a new starter. Finally found one and all is well again.
>>
>>But now I have to go back to Parts Source and resolve this starter and
>> "non-honouring" warranty issue!
>>
>>
Solenoid is part of the starter ( I wish it was the external ford type)
so when I replaced the starter with the new one, the solenoid was
replaced as well.
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> You still have a problem with your starter solenoid, replace it.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>GzrGlide wrote:
>
>
>>Well after replacing the starter with the new lifetime warrantied
>>starter, it still didn't work.
>>Went and bought a new relay, still no change.
>>Checked all the grounds and cleaned them all again. Still no change.
>>Took the starter out, left it connected to it's power source, and had
>>my wife start it while I watched the starter. Nothing.
>>Took the starter and battery out and had them load tested.
>>Both tested ok.
>>Now I was pissed!
>>
>>I decided to do a voltage drop test between the post and clamp on the
>>battery. BINGO! Power at the post, but hardly any at the clamp.
>>Cleaned the battery connections again (did that just before we went on
>>holidays), and that fixed the problem! Yahoo.....until....
>>
>>Friday night we're leaving a friends place and the starter is making a
>>horrible noise. Thought it didn't dis-engage from the flywheel, so I
>>shut the motor off thinking that that the starter would disengage.
>>Nope! The starter is still humming away like a bat out of hell. Before
>>I could get to the battery to disconnect the power source, the starter
>>went "ping" and died. That thing got so hot it discolored the case!
>>Very ugly!
>>Called the parts store and they tell that not only can they not get me
>>a new one till Monday, but that the computer says they don't carry
>>them anymore!!!!! That doesn't help me, since the jp is our only
>>running 4 wheeled transportation.
>>
>>I ended up push starting the jp, and spending Saturday morning looking
>>for a new starter. Finally found one and all is well again.
>>
>>But now I have to go back to Parts Source and resolve this starter and
>> "non-honouring" warranty issue!
>>
>>
08-16-2004, 08:11 PM
#19
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 4 banger starter/electrical issues
Nope!
Solenoid is part of the starter ( I wish it was the external ford type)
so when I replaced the starter with the new one, the solenoid was
replaced as well.
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> You still have a problem with your starter solenoid, replace it.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>GzrGlide wrote:
>
>
>>Well after replacing the starter with the new lifetime warrantied
>>starter, it still didn't work.
>>Went and bought a new relay, still no change.
>>Checked all the grounds and cleaned them all again. Still no change.
>>Took the starter out, left it connected to it's power source, and had
>>my wife start it while I watched the starter. Nothing.
>>Took the starter and battery out and had them load tested.
>>Both tested ok.
>>Now I was pissed!
>>
>>I decided to do a voltage drop test between the post and clamp on the
>>battery. BINGO! Power at the post, but hardly any at the clamp.
>>Cleaned the battery connections again (did that just before we went on
>>holidays), and that fixed the problem! Yahoo.....until....
>>
>>Friday night we're leaving a friends place and the starter is making a
>>horrible noise. Thought it didn't dis-engage from the flywheel, so I
>>shut the motor off thinking that that the starter would disengage.
>>Nope! The starter is still humming away like a bat out of hell. Before
>>I could get to the battery to disconnect the power source, the starter
>>went "ping" and died. That thing got so hot it discolored the case!
>>Very ugly!
>>Called the parts store and they tell that not only can they not get me
>>a new one till Monday, but that the computer says they don't carry
>>them anymore!!!!! That doesn't help me, since the jp is our only
>>running 4 wheeled transportation.
>>
>>I ended up push starting the jp, and spending Saturday morning looking
>>for a new starter. Finally found one and all is well again.
>>
>>But now I have to go back to Parts Source and resolve this starter and
>> "non-honouring" warranty issue!
>>
>>
Solenoid is part of the starter ( I wish it was the external ford type)
so when I replaced the starter with the new one, the solenoid was
replaced as well.
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> You still have a problem with your starter solenoid, replace it.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>GzrGlide wrote:
>
>
>>Well after replacing the starter with the new lifetime warrantied
>>starter, it still didn't work.
>>Went and bought a new relay, still no change.
>>Checked all the grounds and cleaned them all again. Still no change.
>>Took the starter out, left it connected to it's power source, and had
>>my wife start it while I watched the starter. Nothing.
>>Took the starter and battery out and had them load tested.
>>Both tested ok.
>>Now I was pissed!
>>
>>I decided to do a voltage drop test between the post and clamp on the
>>battery. BINGO! Power at the post, but hardly any at the clamp.
>>Cleaned the battery connections again (did that just before we went on
>>holidays), and that fixed the problem! Yahoo.....until....
>>
>>Friday night we're leaving a friends place and the starter is making a
>>horrible noise. Thought it didn't dis-engage from the flywheel, so I
>>shut the motor off thinking that that the starter would disengage.
>>Nope! The starter is still humming away like a bat out of hell. Before
>>I could get to the battery to disconnect the power source, the starter
>>went "ping" and died. That thing got so hot it discolored the case!
>>Very ugly!
>>Called the parts store and they tell that not only can they not get me
>>a new one till Monday, but that the computer says they don't carry
>>them anymore!!!!! That doesn't help me, since the jp is our only
>>running 4 wheeled transportation.
>>
>>I ended up push starting the jp, and spending Saturday morning looking
>>for a new starter. Finally found one and all is well again.
>>
>>But now I have to go back to Parts Source and resolve this starter and
>> "non-honouring" warranty issue!
>>
>>
08-16-2004, 08:11 PM
#20
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 4 banger starter/electrical issues
Nope!
Solenoid is part of the starter ( I wish it was the external ford type)
so when I replaced the starter with the new one, the solenoid was
replaced as well.
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> You still have a problem with your starter solenoid, replace it.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>GzrGlide wrote:
>
>
>>Well after replacing the starter with the new lifetime warrantied
>>starter, it still didn't work.
>>Went and bought a new relay, still no change.
>>Checked all the grounds and cleaned them all again. Still no change.
>>Took the starter out, left it connected to it's power source, and had
>>my wife start it while I watched the starter. Nothing.
>>Took the starter and battery out and had them load tested.
>>Both tested ok.
>>Now I was pissed!
>>
>>I decided to do a voltage drop test between the post and clamp on the
>>battery. BINGO! Power at the post, but hardly any at the clamp.
>>Cleaned the battery connections again (did that just before we went on
>>holidays), and that fixed the problem! Yahoo.....until....
>>
>>Friday night we're leaving a friends place and the starter is making a
>>horrible noise. Thought it didn't dis-engage from the flywheel, so I
>>shut the motor off thinking that that the starter would disengage.
>>Nope! The starter is still humming away like a bat out of hell. Before
>>I could get to the battery to disconnect the power source, the starter
>>went "ping" and died. That thing got so hot it discolored the case!
>>Very ugly!
>>Called the parts store and they tell that not only can they not get me
>>a new one till Monday, but that the computer says they don't carry
>>them anymore!!!!! That doesn't help me, since the jp is our only
>>running 4 wheeled transportation.
>>
>>I ended up push starting the jp, and spending Saturday morning looking
>>for a new starter. Finally found one and all is well again.
>>
>>But now I have to go back to Parts Source and resolve this starter and
>> "non-honouring" warranty issue!
>>
>>
Solenoid is part of the starter ( I wish it was the external ford type)
so when I replaced the starter with the new one, the solenoid was
replaced as well.
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> You still have a problem with your starter solenoid, replace it.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>GzrGlide wrote:
>
>
>>Well after replacing the starter with the new lifetime warrantied
>>starter, it still didn't work.
>>Went and bought a new relay, still no change.
>>Checked all the grounds and cleaned them all again. Still no change.
>>Took the starter out, left it connected to it's power source, and had
>>my wife start it while I watched the starter. Nothing.
>>Took the starter and battery out and had them load tested.
>>Both tested ok.
>>Now I was pissed!
>>
>>I decided to do a voltage drop test between the post and clamp on the
>>battery. BINGO! Power at the post, but hardly any at the clamp.
>>Cleaned the battery connections again (did that just before we went on
>>holidays), and that fixed the problem! Yahoo.....until....
>>
>>Friday night we're leaving a friends place and the starter is making a
>>horrible noise. Thought it didn't dis-engage from the flywheel, so I
>>shut the motor off thinking that that the starter would disengage.
>>Nope! The starter is still humming away like a bat out of hell. Before
>>I could get to the battery to disconnect the power source, the starter
>>went "ping" and died. That thing got so hot it discolored the case!
>>Very ugly!
>>Called the parts store and they tell that not only can they not get me
>>a new one till Monday, but that the computer says they don't carry
>>them anymore!!!!! That doesn't help me, since the jp is our only
>>running 4 wheeled transportation.
>>
>>I ended up push starting the jp, and spending Saturday morning looking
>>for a new starter. Finally found one and all is well again.
>>
>>But now I have to go back to Parts Source and resolve this starter and
>> "non-honouring" warranty issue!
>>
>>