Thanks for chiming in CRWLR... can't seem to convince Terry.

JimG

"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:vv133844sas0a8@corp.supernews.com...
> The issue with the carrier is that the Ring gear won't fit the carrier for
> taller than 3.73s.
>
>
>
>
> "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:XZFHb.22399$Pg1.9205@newsread1.news.pas.earth link.net...
> > It's been a few years, but thinking back I'm sure I didn't have to
replace
> > the entire reverse-cut D30 carrier when I installed the 4.56 R&P because
I
> > installed a LockRight locker at the same time, which replaces the side
and
> > spider gears. Didn't your LockRight install go this way too?
> >
> > Terry 92YJ
> > (now running dual D60s w/Detroits)
> >
> >
> > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > news:pdFHb.32159$Wc4.17075@news01.roc.ny...
> > > You will have to get a new carrier for the D30, been there, done that.
> > >
> > > --
> > > JimG
> > > 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> > > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> > > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> > > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
> > >
> > > "Tom P." <TPatzlaff@aol.com> wrote in message
> > > news:dd809f71.0312281017.6ee22391@posting.google.c om...
> > > > I have an "88" wrangler with a Dana 35 rear and Dana 30 front. I
> > > > currently have 3.55 gears in both diffs. and would like to put 4.56
> > > > gears in both.
> > > > The literature I can find says that if I have 3.55 or lower gears
in
> > > > the D35, I will be ok. But what I need to know is if the 4.56 gears
> > > > will fit in the D30 case? From what I can find it sounds like I'm
> > > > going to need a housing with 3.73 or lower gears in it for the 4.56
to
> > > > fit.I need to find out the real answer.
> > > > Has anyone out there put 4.56 gears in these size housings?
> > > > Any help or advice would be great.
> > > > Tom
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>

 

Hello,
I just left the local 4 Wheel Drive Wholesalers shop and they told me
I definitely need a new carrier, and my current lock-right locker will
work just fine with the new carrier. I guess the bolt pattern or
something is different, the new carrier is around $200.00 plus cost
of the new gear set and master install kit.
Thanks for for the feedback and advice!
Tom






"Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<orLHb.23377$Pg1.22505@newsread1.news.pas.ear thlink.net>...
> Hey guys, I'm not suggesting anybody is wrong. All I'm saying is I don't
> recall having to replace the carrier in my D30 whenever I made this swap
> back in spring of '96. The 4.56 ring bolted onto the stock carrier, and I
> used it until about 4 months ago. If I hadn't taken the old D30 to salvage
> last month, I'd go open it up and take a look. Both the CJ and the TJ use a
> non-reverse cut D30, whereas the YJ uses a reverse-cut. Maybe this is the
> difference -- I don't know. One thing is for sure: either it fit the stock
> carrier on my 92YJ or all those brain cells I destroyed at a younger age is
> starting to catch up with me!! :)
>
> Cheers,
> Terry.
>
>
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
> news:i9IHb.31792$gN.19187@fed1read05...
> > I can't imagine going from 3.07 to 4.56 without needing a new carrier in
> any
> > Dana axle. I believe any ratio 3.73 or lower (lower meaning 4.10, 4.56,
> > etc.) needs a new carrier, even in something that old. My TJ's
> non-reverse
> > cut D30 sure did when I went from 3.55 to 4.10... but I kept the same
> > carrier when converting from 4.10 to 4.88 earlier this year.
> >
> > --
> > --
> > Jerry Bransford
> > To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> > KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> >
> > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > news:x3IHb.32188$HR4.13579@news01.roc.ny...
> > > I don't think there is any difference - all internal parts are the same.
> > > Did you see Bill's list?
> > > http://www.----------.com/tooth_count.txt
> > >
> > > JimG
> > >
> > > "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:zLHHb.22523$Pg1.19236@newsread1.news.pas.eart hlink.net...
> > > > My original gear was 3.07 too, but I'm certain I did not have to
> replace
> the
> > > > D30 carrier in conjunction with using the LockRite. Maybe this is a
> > > > difference in the stock '80 vs '92 D30?
> > > >
> > > > Terry.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:FzHHb.32183$iN4.2074@news01.roc.ny...
> > > > > If original gear is higher that 3.73, the carrier has to be
> replaced.
> My
> > > > > original gear was 3.07. I had to replace the carriers in both front
> and
> > > > > rear.
> > > > >
> > > > > JimG
> > > > >
> > > > > "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:XZFHb.22399$Pg1.9205@newsread1.news.pas.earth link.net...
> > > > > > It's been a few years, but thinking back I'm sure I didn't have to
> replace
> > > > > > the entire reverse-cut D30 carrier when I installed the 4.56 R&P
> because
> I
> > > > > > installed a LockRight locker at the same time, which replaces the
> side
> and
> > > > > > spider gears. Didn't your LockRight install go this way too?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Terry 92YJ
> > > > > > (now running dual D60s w/Detroits)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:pdFHb.32159$Wc4.17075@news01.roc.ny...
> > > > > > > You will have to get a new carrier for the D30, been there, done
> that.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > JimG
> > > > > > > 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> > > > > > > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > > > > > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> > > > > > > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> > > > > > > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > > > > > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Tom P." <TPatzlaff@aol.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:dd809f71.0312281017.6ee22391@posting.google.c om...
> > > > > > > > I have an "88" wrangler with a Dana 35 rear and Dana 30 front.
> I
> > > > > > > > currently have 3.55 gears in both diffs. and would like to put
> 4.56
> > > > > > > > gears in both.
> > > > > > > > The literature I can find says that if I have 3.55 or lower
> gears
> in
> > > > > > > > the D35, I will be ok. But what I need to know is if the 4.56
> gears
> > > > > > > > will fit in the D30 case? From what I can find it sounds like
> I'm
> > > > > > > > going to need a housing with 3.73 or lower gears in it for the
> 4.56
> to
> > > > > > > > fit.I need to find out the real answer.
> > > > > > > > Has anyone out there put 4.56 gears in these size housings?
> > > > > > > > Any help or advice would be great.
> > > > > > > > Tom
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >

 

Hello,
I just left the local 4 Wheel Drive Wholesalers shop and they told me
I definitely need a new carrier, and my current lock-right locker will
work just fine with the new carrier. I guess the bolt pattern or
something is different, the new carrier is around $200.00 plus cost
of the new gear set and master install kit.
Thanks for for the feedback and advice!
Tom






"Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<orLHb.23377$Pg1.22505@newsread1.news.pas.ear thlink.net>...
> Hey guys, I'm not suggesting anybody is wrong. All I'm saying is I don't
> recall having to replace the carrier in my D30 whenever I made this swap
> back in spring of '96. The 4.56 ring bolted onto the stock carrier, and I
> used it until about 4 months ago. If I hadn't taken the old D30 to salvage
> last month, I'd go open it up and take a look. Both the CJ and the TJ use a
> non-reverse cut D30, whereas the YJ uses a reverse-cut. Maybe this is the
> difference -- I don't know. One thing is for sure: either it fit the stock
> carrier on my 92YJ or all those brain cells I destroyed at a younger age is
> starting to catch up with me!! :)
>
> Cheers,
> Terry.
>
>
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
> news:i9IHb.31792$gN.19187@fed1read05...
> > I can't imagine going from 3.07 to 4.56 without needing a new carrier in
> any
> > Dana axle. I believe any ratio 3.73 or lower (lower meaning 4.10, 4.56,
> > etc.) needs a new carrier, even in something that old. My TJ's
> non-reverse
> > cut D30 sure did when I went from 3.55 to 4.10... but I kept the same
> > carrier when converting from 4.10 to 4.88 earlier this year.
> >
> > --
> > --
> > Jerry Bransford
> > To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> > KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> >
> > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > news:x3IHb.32188$HR4.13579@news01.roc.ny...
> > > I don't think there is any difference - all internal parts are the same.
> > > Did you see Bill's list?
> > > http://www.----------.com/tooth_count.txt
> > >
> > > JimG
> > >
> > > "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:zLHHb.22523$Pg1.19236@newsread1.news.pas.eart hlink.net...
> > > > My original gear was 3.07 too, but I'm certain I did not have to
> replace
> the
> > > > D30 carrier in conjunction with using the LockRite. Maybe this is a
> > > > difference in the stock '80 vs '92 D30?
> > > >
> > > > Terry.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:FzHHb.32183$iN4.2074@news01.roc.ny...
> > > > > If original gear is higher that 3.73, the carrier has to be
> replaced.
> My
> > > > > original gear was 3.07. I had to replace the carriers in both front
> and
> > > > > rear.
> > > > >
> > > > > JimG
> > > > >
> > > > > "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:XZFHb.22399$Pg1.9205@newsread1.news.pas.earth link.net...
> > > > > > It's been a few years, but thinking back I'm sure I didn't have to
> replace
> > > > > > the entire reverse-cut D30 carrier when I installed the 4.56 R&P
> because
> I
> > > > > > installed a LockRight locker at the same time, which replaces the
> side
> and
> > > > > > spider gears. Didn't your LockRight install go this way too?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Terry 92YJ
> > > > > > (now running dual D60s w/Detroits)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:pdFHb.32159$Wc4.17075@news01.roc.ny...
> > > > > > > You will have to get a new carrier for the D30, been there, done
> that.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > JimG
> > > > > > > 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> > > > > > > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > > > > > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> > > > > > > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> > > > > > > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > > > > > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Tom P." <TPatzlaff@aol.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:dd809f71.0312281017.6ee22391@posting.google.c om...
> > > > > > > > I have an "88" wrangler with a Dana 35 rear and Dana 30 front.
> I
> > > > > > > > currently have 3.55 gears in both diffs. and would like to put
> 4.56
> > > > > > > > gears in both.
> > > > > > > > The literature I can find says that if I have 3.55 or lower
> gears
> in
> > > > > > > > the D35, I will be ok. But what I need to know is if the 4.56
> gears
> > > > > > > > will fit in the D30 case? From what I can find it sounds like
> I'm
> > > > > > > > going to need a housing with 3.73 or lower gears in it for the
> 4.56
> to
> > > > > > > > fit.I need to find out the real answer.
> > > > > > > > Has anyone out there put 4.56 gears in these size housings?
> > > > > > > > Any help or advice would be great.
> > > > > > > > Tom
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >

 

Hello,
I just left the local 4 Wheel Drive Wholesalers shop and they told me
I definitely need a new carrier, and my current lock-right locker will
work just fine with the new carrier. I guess the bolt pattern or
something is different, the new carrier is around $200.00 plus cost
of the new gear set and master install kit.
Thanks for for the feedback and advice!
Tom






"Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<orLHb.23377$Pg1.22505@newsread1.news.pas.ear thlink.net>...
> Hey guys, I'm not suggesting anybody is wrong. All I'm saying is I don't
> recall having to replace the carrier in my D30 whenever I made this swap
> back in spring of '96. The 4.56 ring bolted onto the stock carrier, and I
> used it until about 4 months ago. If I hadn't taken the old D30 to salvage
> last month, I'd go open it up and take a look. Both the CJ and the TJ use a
> non-reverse cut D30, whereas the YJ uses a reverse-cut. Maybe this is the
> difference -- I don't know. One thing is for sure: either it fit the stock
> carrier on my 92YJ or all those brain cells I destroyed at a younger age is
> starting to catch up with me!! :)
>
> Cheers,
> Terry.
>
>
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
> news:i9IHb.31792$gN.19187@fed1read05...
> > I can't imagine going from 3.07 to 4.56 without needing a new carrier in
> any
> > Dana axle. I believe any ratio 3.73 or lower (lower meaning 4.10, 4.56,
> > etc.) needs a new carrier, even in something that old. My TJ's
> non-reverse
> > cut D30 sure did when I went from 3.55 to 4.10... but I kept the same
> > carrier when converting from 4.10 to 4.88 earlier this year.
> >
> > --
> > --
> > Jerry Bransford
> > To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> > KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> >
> > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > news:x3IHb.32188$HR4.13579@news01.roc.ny...
> > > I don't think there is any difference - all internal parts are the same.
> > > Did you see Bill's list?
> > > http://www.----------.com/tooth_count.txt
> > >
> > > JimG
> > >
> > > "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:zLHHb.22523$Pg1.19236@newsread1.news.pas.eart hlink.net...
> > > > My original gear was 3.07 too, but I'm certain I did not have to
> replace
> the
> > > > D30 carrier in conjunction with using the LockRite. Maybe this is a
> > > > difference in the stock '80 vs '92 D30?
> > > >
> > > > Terry.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:FzHHb.32183$iN4.2074@news01.roc.ny...
> > > > > If original gear is higher that 3.73, the carrier has to be
> replaced.
> My
> > > > > original gear was 3.07. I had to replace the carriers in both front
> and
> > > > > rear.
> > > > >
> > > > > JimG
> > > > >
> > > > > "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:XZFHb.22399$Pg1.9205@newsread1.news.pas.earth link.net...
> > > > > > It's been a few years, but thinking back I'm sure I didn't have to
> replace
> > > > > > the entire reverse-cut D30 carrier when I installed the 4.56 R&P
> because
> I
> > > > > > installed a LockRight locker at the same time, which replaces the
> side
> and
> > > > > > spider gears. Didn't your LockRight install go this way too?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Terry 92YJ
> > > > > > (now running dual D60s w/Detroits)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:pdFHb.32159$Wc4.17075@news01.roc.ny...
> > > > > > > You will have to get a new carrier for the D30, been there, done
> that.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > JimG
> > > > > > > 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> > > > > > > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > > > > > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> > > > > > > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> > > > > > > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > > > > > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Tom P." <TPatzlaff@aol.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:dd809f71.0312281017.6ee22391@posting.google.c om...
> > > > > > > > I have an "88" wrangler with a Dana 35 rear and Dana 30 front.
> I
> > > > > > > > currently have 3.55 gears in both diffs. and would like to put
> 4.56
> > > > > > > > gears in both.
> > > > > > > > The literature I can find says that if I have 3.55 or lower
> gears
> in
> > > > > > > > the D35, I will be ok. But what I need to know is if the 4.56
> gears
> > > > > > > > will fit in the D30 case? From what I can find it sounds like
> I'm
> > > > > > > > going to need a housing with 3.73 or lower gears in it for the
> 4.56
> to
> > > > > > > > fit.I need to find out the real answer.
> > > > > > > > Has anyone out there put 4.56 gears in these size housings?
> > > > > > > > Any help or advice would be great.
> > > > > > > > Tom
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >

 

Sounds good, Tom. But that price sounds a little high for the carrier.
What size tires are you planning to run with those 4.56s?

Terry.


"Tom P." <TPatzlaff@aol.com> wrote in message
news:dd809f71.0312291846.2d607f8a@posting.google.c om...
> Hello,
> I just left the local 4 Wheel Drive Wholesalers shop and they told me
> I definitely need a new carrier, and my current lock-right locker will
> work just fine with the new carrier. I guess the bolt pattern or
> something is different, the new carrier is around $200.00 plus cost
> of the new gear set and master install kit.
> Thanks for for the feedback and advice!
> Tom
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:<orLHb.23377$Pg1.22505@newsread1.news.pas.ear thlink.net>...
> > Hey guys, I'm not suggesting anybody is wrong. All I'm saying is I
don't
> > recall having to replace the carrier in my D30 whenever I made this swap
> > back in spring of '96. The 4.56 ring bolted onto the stock carrier, and
I
> > used it until about 4 months ago. If I hadn't taken the old D30 to
salvage
> > last month, I'd go open it up and take a look. Both the CJ and the TJ
use a
> > non-reverse cut D30, whereas the YJ uses a reverse-cut. Maybe this is
the
> > difference -- I don't know. One thing is for sure: either it fit the
stock
> > carrier on my 92YJ or all those brain cells I destroyed at a younger age
is
> > starting to catch up with me!! :)
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Terry.
> >
> >
> >
> > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
> > news:i9IHb.31792$gN.19187@fed1read05...
> > > I can't imagine going from 3.07 to 4.56 without needing a new carrier
in
> > any
> > > Dana axle. I believe any ratio 3.73 or lower (lower meaning 4.10,
4.56,
> > > etc.) needs a new carrier, even in something that old. My TJ's
> > non-reverse
> > > cut D30 sure did when I went from 3.55 to 4.10... but I kept the same
> > > carrier when converting from 4.10 to 4.88 earlier this year.
> > >
> > > --
> > > --
> > > Jerry Bransford
> > > To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> > > KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> > > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> > >
> > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > > news:x3IHb.32188$HR4.13579@news01.roc.ny...
> > > > I don't think there is any difference - all internal parts are the
same.
> > > > Did you see Bill's list?
> > > > http://www.----------.com/tooth_count.txt
> > > >
> > > > JimG
> > > >
> > > > "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:zLHHb.22523$Pg1.19236@newsread1.news.pas.eart hlink.net...
> > > > > My original gear was 3.07 too, but I'm certain I did not have to
> > replace
> > the
> > > > > D30 carrier in conjunction with using the LockRite. Maybe this is
a
> > > > > difference in the stock '80 vs '92 D30?
> > > > >
> > > > > Terry.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:FzHHb.32183$iN4.2074@news01.roc.ny...
> > > > > > If original gear is higher that 3.73, the carrier has to be
> > replaced.
> > My
> > > > > > original gear was 3.07. I had to replace the carriers in both
front
> > and
> > > > > > rear.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > JimG
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:XZFHb.22399$Pg1.9205@newsread1.news.pas.earth link.net...
> > > > > > > It's been a few years, but thinking back I'm sure I didn't
have to
> > replace
> > > > > > > the entire reverse-cut D30 carrier when I installed the 4.56
R&P
> > because
> > I
> > > > > > > installed a LockRight locker at the same time, which replaces
the
> > side
> > and
> > > > > > > spider gears. Didn't your LockRight install go this way too?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Terry 92YJ
> > > > > > > (now running dual D60s w/Detroits)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:pdFHb.32159$Wc4.17075@news01.roc.ny...
> > > > > > > > You will have to get a new carrier for the D30, been there,
done
> > that.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > JimG
> > > > > > > > 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> > > > > > > > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > > > > > > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> > > > > > > > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> > > > > > > > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > > > > > > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "Tom P." <TPatzlaff@aol.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > news:dd809f71.0312281017.6ee22391@posting.google.c om...
> > > > > > > > > I have an "88" wrangler with a Dana 35 rear and Dana 30
front.
> > I
> > > > > > > > > currently have 3.55 gears in both diffs. and would like to
put
> > 4.56
> > > > > > > > > gears in both.
> > > > > > > > > The literature I can find says that if I have 3.55 or
lower
> > gears
> > in
> > > > > > > > > the D35, I will be ok. But what I need to know is if the
4.56
> > gears
> > > > > > > > > will fit in the D30 case? From what I can find it sounds
like
> > I'm
> > > > > > > > > going to need a housing with 3.73 or lower gears in it for
the
> > 4.56
> > to
> > > > > > > > > fit.I need to find out the real answer.
> > > > > > > > > Has anyone out there put 4.56 gears in these size
housings?
> > > > > > > > > Any help or advice would be great.
> > > > > > > > > Tom
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >

 

Sounds good, Tom. But that price sounds a little high for the carrier.
What size tires are you planning to run with those 4.56s?

Terry.


"Tom P." <TPatzlaff@aol.com> wrote in message
news:dd809f71.0312291846.2d607f8a@posting.google.c om...
> Hello,
> I just left the local 4 Wheel Drive Wholesalers shop and they told me
> I definitely need a new carrier, and my current lock-right locker will
> work just fine with the new carrier. I guess the bolt pattern or
> something is different, the new carrier is around $200.00 plus cost
> of the new gear set and master install kit.
> Thanks for for the feedback and advice!
> Tom
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:<orLHb.23377$Pg1.22505@newsread1.news.pas.ear thlink.net>...
> > Hey guys, I'm not suggesting anybody is wrong. All I'm saying is I
don't
> > recall having to replace the carrier in my D30 whenever I made this swap
> > back in spring of '96. The 4.56 ring bolted onto the stock carrier, and
I
> > used it until about 4 months ago. If I hadn't taken the old D30 to
salvage
> > last month, I'd go open it up and take a look. Both the CJ and the TJ
use a
> > non-reverse cut D30, whereas the YJ uses a reverse-cut. Maybe this is
the
> > difference -- I don't know. One thing is for sure: either it fit the
stock
> > carrier on my 92YJ or all those brain cells I destroyed at a younger age
is
> > starting to catch up with me!! :)
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Terry.
> >
> >
> >
> > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
> > news:i9IHb.31792$gN.19187@fed1read05...
> > > I can't imagine going from 3.07 to 4.56 without needing a new carrier
in
> > any
> > > Dana axle. I believe any ratio 3.73 or lower (lower meaning 4.10,
4.56,
> > > etc.) needs a new carrier, even in something that old. My TJ's
> > non-reverse
> > > cut D30 sure did when I went from 3.55 to 4.10... but I kept the same
> > > carrier when converting from 4.10 to 4.88 earlier this year.
> > >
> > > --
> > > --
> > > Jerry Bransford
> > > To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> > > KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> > > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> > >
> > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > > news:x3IHb.32188$HR4.13579@news01.roc.ny...
> > > > I don't think there is any difference - all internal parts are the
same.
> > > > Did you see Bill's list?
> > > > http://www.----------.com/tooth_count.txt
> > > >
> > > > JimG
> > > >
> > > > "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:zLHHb.22523$Pg1.19236@newsread1.news.pas.eart hlink.net...
> > > > > My original gear was 3.07 too, but I'm certain I did not have to
> > replace
> > the
> > > > > D30 carrier in conjunction with using the LockRite. Maybe this is
a
> > > > > difference in the stock '80 vs '92 D30?
> > > > >
> > > > > Terry.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:FzHHb.32183$iN4.2074@news01.roc.ny...
> > > > > > If original gear is higher that 3.73, the carrier has to be
> > replaced.
> > My
> > > > > > original gear was 3.07. I had to replace the carriers in both
front
> > and
> > > > > > rear.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > JimG
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:XZFHb.22399$Pg1.9205@newsread1.news.pas.earth link.net...
> > > > > > > It's been a few years, but thinking back I'm sure I didn't
have to
> > replace
> > > > > > > the entire reverse-cut D30 carrier when I installed the 4.56
R&P
> > because
> > I
> > > > > > > installed a LockRight locker at the same time, which replaces
the
> > side
> > and
> > > > > > > spider gears. Didn't your LockRight install go this way too?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Terry 92YJ
> > > > > > > (now running dual D60s w/Detroits)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:pdFHb.32159$Wc4.17075@news01.roc.ny...
> > > > > > > > You will have to get a new carrier for the D30, been there,
done
> > that.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > JimG
> > > > > > > > 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> > > > > > > > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > > > > > > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> > > > > > > > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> > > > > > > > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > > > > > > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "Tom P." <TPatzlaff@aol.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > news:dd809f71.0312281017.6ee22391@posting.google.c om...
> > > > > > > > > I have an "88" wrangler with a Dana 35 rear and Dana 30
front.
> > I
> > > > > > > > > currently have 3.55 gears in both diffs. and would like to
put
> > 4.56
> > > > > > > > > gears in both.
> > > > > > > > > The literature I can find says that if I have 3.55 or
lower
> > gears
> > in
> > > > > > > > > the D35, I will be ok. But what I need to know is if the
4.56
> > gears
> > > > > > > > > will fit in the D30 case? From what I can find it sounds
like
> > I'm
> > > > > > > > > going to need a housing with 3.73 or lower gears in it for
the
> > 4.56
> > to
> > > > > > > > > fit.I need to find out the real answer.
> > > > > > > > > Has anyone out there put 4.56 gears in these size
housings?
> > > > > > > > > Any help or advice would be great.
> > > > > > > > > Tom
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >

 

Sounds good, Tom. But that price sounds a little high for the carrier.
What size tires are you planning to run with those 4.56s?

Terry.


"Tom P." <TPatzlaff@aol.com> wrote in message
news:dd809f71.0312291846.2d607f8a@posting.google.c om...
> Hello,
> I just left the local 4 Wheel Drive Wholesalers shop and they told me
> I definitely need a new carrier, and my current lock-right locker will
> work just fine with the new carrier. I guess the bolt pattern or
> something is different, the new carrier is around $200.00 plus cost
> of the new gear set and master install kit.
> Thanks for for the feedback and advice!
> Tom
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:<orLHb.23377$Pg1.22505@newsread1.news.pas.ear thlink.net>...
> > Hey guys, I'm not suggesting anybody is wrong. All I'm saying is I
don't
> > recall having to replace the carrier in my D30 whenever I made this swap
> > back in spring of '96. The 4.56 ring bolted onto the stock carrier, and
I
> > used it until about 4 months ago. If I hadn't taken the old D30 to
salvage
> > last month, I'd go open it up and take a look. Both the CJ and the TJ
use a
> > non-reverse cut D30, whereas the YJ uses a reverse-cut. Maybe this is
the
> > difference -- I don't know. One thing is for sure: either it fit the
stock
> > carrier on my 92YJ or all those brain cells I destroyed at a younger age
is
> > starting to catch up with me!! :)
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Terry.
> >
> >
> >
> > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
> > news:i9IHb.31792$gN.19187@fed1read05...
> > > I can't imagine going from 3.07 to 4.56 without needing a new carrier
in
> > any
> > > Dana axle. I believe any ratio 3.73 or lower (lower meaning 4.10,
4.56,
> > > etc.) needs a new carrier, even in something that old. My TJ's
> > non-reverse
> > > cut D30 sure did when I went from 3.55 to 4.10... but I kept the same
> > > carrier when converting from 4.10 to 4.88 earlier this year.
> > >
> > > --
> > > --
> > > Jerry Bransford
> > > To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> > > KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> > > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> > >
> > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > > news:x3IHb.32188$HR4.13579@news01.roc.ny...
> > > > I don't think there is any difference - all internal parts are the
same.
> > > > Did you see Bill's list?
> > > > http://www.----------.com/tooth_count.txt
> > > >
> > > > JimG
> > > >
> > > > "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:zLHHb.22523$Pg1.19236@newsread1.news.pas.eart hlink.net...
> > > > > My original gear was 3.07 too, but I'm certain I did not have to
> > replace
> > the
> > > > > D30 carrier in conjunction with using the LockRite. Maybe this is
a
> > > > > difference in the stock '80 vs '92 D30?
> > > > >
> > > > > Terry.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:FzHHb.32183$iN4.2074@news01.roc.ny...
> > > > > > If original gear is higher that 3.73, the carrier has to be
> > replaced.
> > My
> > > > > > original gear was 3.07. I had to replace the carriers in both
front
> > and
> > > > > > rear.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > JimG
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:XZFHb.22399$Pg1.9205@newsread1.news.pas.earth link.net...
> > > > > > > It's been a few years, but thinking back I'm sure I didn't
have to
> > replace
> > > > > > > the entire reverse-cut D30 carrier when I installed the 4.56
R&P
> > because
> > I
> > > > > > > installed a LockRight locker at the same time, which replaces
the
> > side
> > and
> > > > > > > spider gears. Didn't your LockRight install go this way too?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Terry 92YJ
> > > > > > > (now running dual D60s w/Detroits)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:pdFHb.32159$Wc4.17075@news01.roc.ny...
> > > > > > > > You will have to get a new carrier for the D30, been there,
done
> > that.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > JimG
> > > > > > > > 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> > > > > > > > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > > > > > > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> > > > > > > > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> > > > > > > > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > > > > > > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "Tom P." <TPatzlaff@aol.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > news:dd809f71.0312281017.6ee22391@posting.google.c om...
> > > > > > > > > I have an "88" wrangler with a Dana 35 rear and Dana 30
front.
> > I
> > > > > > > > > currently have 3.55 gears in both diffs. and would like to
put
> > 4.56
> > > > > > > > > gears in both.
> > > > > > > > > The literature I can find says that if I have 3.55 or
lower
> > gears
> > in
> > > > > > > > > the D35, I will be ok. But what I need to know is if the
4.56
> > gears
> > > > > > > > > will fit in the D30 case? From what I can find it sounds
like
> > I'm
> > > > > > > > > going to need a housing with 3.73 or lower gears in it for
the
> > 4.56
> > to
> > > > > > > > > fit.I need to find out the real answer.
> > > > > > > > > Has anyone out there put 4.56 gears in these size
housings?
> > > > > > > > > Any help or advice would be great.
> > > > > > > > > Tom
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >

 

The surface where the ring gear is bolted to the carrier is moved
over to meat the smaller pinion.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"Tom P." wrote:
>
> Hello,
> I just left the local 4 Wheel Drive Wholesalers shop and they told me
> I definitely need a new carrier, and my current lock-right locker will
> work just fine with the new carrier. I guess the bolt pattern or
> something is different, the new carrier is around $200.00 plus cost
> of the new gear set and master install kit.
> Thanks for for the feedback and advice!
> Tom
>
> "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<orLHb.23377$Pg1.22505@newsread1.news.pas.ear thlink.net>...
> > Hey guys, I'm not suggesting anybody is wrong. All I'm saying is I don't
> > recall having to replace the carrier in my D30 whenever I made this swap
> > back in spring of '96. The 4.56 ring bolted onto the stock carrier, and I
> > used it until about 4 months ago. If I hadn't taken the old D30 to salvage
> > last month, I'd go open it up and take a look. Both the CJ and the TJ use a
> > non-reverse cut D30, whereas the YJ uses a reverse-cut. Maybe this is the
> > difference -- I don't know. One thing is for sure: either it fit the stock
> > carrier on my 92YJ or all those brain cells I destroyed at a younger age is
> > starting to catch up with me!! :)
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Terry.
> >
> >
> >
> > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
> > news:i9IHb.31792$gN.19187@fed1read05...
> > > I can't imagine going from 3.07 to 4.56 without needing a new carrier in
> > any
> > > Dana axle. I believe any ratio 3.73 or lower (lower meaning 4.10, 4.56,
> > > etc.) needs a new carrier, even in something that old. My TJ's
> > non-reverse
> > > cut D30 sure did when I went from 3.55 to 4.10... but I kept the same
> > > carrier when converting from 4.10 to 4.88 earlier this year.
> > >
> > > --
> > > --
> > > Jerry Bransford
> > > To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> > > KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> > > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> > >
> > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > > news:x3IHb.32188$HR4.13579@news01.roc.ny...
> > > > I don't think there is any difference - all internal parts are the same.
> > > > Did you see Bill's list?
> > > > http://www.----------.com/tooth_count.txt
> > > >
> > > > JimG
> > > >
> > > > "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:zLHHb.22523$Pg1.19236@newsread1.news.pas.eart hlink.net...
> > > > > My original gear was 3.07 too, but I'm certain I did not have to
> > replace
> > the
> > > > > D30 carrier in conjunction with using the LockRite. Maybe this is a
> > > > > difference in the stock '80 vs '92 D30?
> > > > >
> > > > > Terry.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:FzHHb.32183$iN4.2074@news01.roc.ny...
> > > > > > If original gear is higher that 3.73, the carrier has to be
> > replaced.
> > My
> > > > > > original gear was 3.07. I had to replace the carriers in both front
> > and
> > > > > > rear.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > JimG
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:XZFHb.22399$Pg1.9205@newsread1.news.pas.earth link.net...
> > > > > > > It's been a few years, but thinking back I'm sure I didn't have to
> > replace
> > > > > > > the entire reverse-cut D30 carrier when I installed the 4.56 R&P
> > because
> > I
> > > > > > > installed a LockRight locker at the same time, which replaces the
> > side
> > and
> > > > > > > spider gears. Didn't your LockRight install go this way too?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Terry 92YJ
> > > > > > > (now running dual D60s w/Detroits)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:pdFHb.32159$Wc4.17075@news01.roc.ny...
> > > > > > > > You will have to get a new carrier for the D30, been there, done
> > that.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > JimG
> > > > > > > > 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> > > > > > > > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > > > > > > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> > > > > > > > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> > > > > > > > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > > > > > > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "Tom P." <TPatzlaff@aol.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > news:dd809f71.0312281017.6ee22391@posting.google.c om...
> > > > > > > > > I have an "88" wrangler with a Dana 35 rear and Dana 30 front.
> > I
> > > > > > > > > currently have 3.55 gears in both diffs. and would like to put
> > 4.56
> > > > > > > > > gears in both.
> > > > > > > > > The literature I can find says that if I have 3.55 or lower
> > gears
> > in
> > > > > > > > > the D35, I will be ok. But what I need to know is if the 4.56
> > gears
> > > > > > > > > will fit in the D30 case? From what I can find it sounds like
> > I'm
> > > > > > > > > going to need a housing with 3.73 or lower gears in it for the
> > 4.56
> > to
> > > > > > > > > fit.I need to find out the real answer.
> > > > > > > > > Has anyone out there put 4.56 gears in these size housings?
> > > > > > > > > Any help or advice would be great.
> > > > > > > > > Tom
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >

 

The surface where the ring gear is bolted to the carrier is moved
over to meat the smaller pinion.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"Tom P." wrote:
>
> Hello,
> I just left the local 4 Wheel Drive Wholesalers shop and they told me
> I definitely need a new carrier, and my current lock-right locker will
> work just fine with the new carrier. I guess the bolt pattern or
> something is different, the new carrier is around $200.00 plus cost
> of the new gear set and master install kit.
> Thanks for for the feedback and advice!
> Tom
>
> "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<orLHb.23377$Pg1.22505@newsread1.news.pas.ear thlink.net>...
> > Hey guys, I'm not suggesting anybody is wrong. All I'm saying is I don't
> > recall having to replace the carrier in my D30 whenever I made this swap
> > back in spring of '96. The 4.56 ring bolted onto the stock carrier, and I
> > used it until about 4 months ago. If I hadn't taken the old D30 to salvage
> > last month, I'd go open it up and take a look. Both the CJ and the TJ use a
> > non-reverse cut D30, whereas the YJ uses a reverse-cut. Maybe this is the
> > difference -- I don't know. One thing is for sure: either it fit the stock
> > carrier on my 92YJ or all those brain cells I destroyed at a younger age is
> > starting to catch up with me!! :)
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Terry.
> >
> >
> >
> > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
> > news:i9IHb.31792$gN.19187@fed1read05...
> > > I can't imagine going from 3.07 to 4.56 without needing a new carrier in
> > any
> > > Dana axle. I believe any ratio 3.73 or lower (lower meaning 4.10, 4.56,
> > > etc.) needs a new carrier, even in something that old. My TJ's
> > non-reverse
> > > cut D30 sure did when I went from 3.55 to 4.10... but I kept the same
> > > carrier when converting from 4.10 to 4.88 earlier this year.
> > >
> > > --
> > > --
> > > Jerry Bransford
> > > To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> > > KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> > > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> > >
> > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > > news:x3IHb.32188$HR4.13579@news01.roc.ny...
> > > > I don't think there is any difference - all internal parts are the same.
> > > > Did you see Bill's list?
> > > > http://www.----------.com/tooth_count.txt
> > > >
> > > > JimG
> > > >
> > > > "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:zLHHb.22523$Pg1.19236@newsread1.news.pas.eart hlink.net...
> > > > > My original gear was 3.07 too, but I'm certain I did not have to
> > replace
> > the
> > > > > D30 carrier in conjunction with using the LockRite. Maybe this is a
> > > > > difference in the stock '80 vs '92 D30?
> > > > >
> > > > > Terry.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:FzHHb.32183$iN4.2074@news01.roc.ny...
> > > > > > If original gear is higher that 3.73, the carrier has to be
> > replaced.
> > My
> > > > > > original gear was 3.07. I had to replace the carriers in both front
> > and
> > > > > > rear.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > JimG
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:XZFHb.22399$Pg1.9205@newsread1.news.pas.earth link.net...
> > > > > > > It's been a few years, but thinking back I'm sure I didn't have to
> > replace
> > > > > > > the entire reverse-cut D30 carrier when I installed the 4.56 R&P
> > because
> > I
> > > > > > > installed a LockRight locker at the same time, which replaces the
> > side
> > and
> > > > > > > spider gears. Didn't your LockRight install go this way too?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Terry 92YJ
> > > > > > > (now running dual D60s w/Detroits)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:pdFHb.32159$Wc4.17075@news01.roc.ny...
> > > > > > > > You will have to get a new carrier for the D30, been there, done
> > that.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > JimG
> > > > > > > > 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> > > > > > > > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > > > > > > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> > > > > > > > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> > > > > > > > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > > > > > > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "Tom P." <TPatzlaff@aol.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > news:dd809f71.0312281017.6ee22391@posting.google.c om...
> > > > > > > > > I have an "88" wrangler with a Dana 35 rear and Dana 30 front.
> > I
> > > > > > > > > currently have 3.55 gears in both diffs. and would like to put
> > 4.56
> > > > > > > > > gears in both.
> > > > > > > > > The literature I can find says that if I have 3.55 or lower
> > gears
> > in
> > > > > > > > > the D35, I will be ok. But what I need to know is if the 4.56
> > gears
> > > > > > > > > will fit in the D30 case? From what I can find it sounds like
> > I'm
> > > > > > > > > going to need a housing with 3.73 or lower gears in it for the
> > 4.56
> > to
> > > > > > > > > fit.I need to find out the real answer.
> > > > > > > > > Has anyone out there put 4.56 gears in these size housings?
> > > > > > > > > Any help or advice would be great.
> > > > > > > > > Tom
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >

 

The surface where the ring gear is bolted to the carrier is moved
over to meat the smaller pinion.
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"Tom P." wrote:
>
> Hello,
> I just left the local 4 Wheel Drive Wholesalers shop and they told me
> I definitely need a new carrier, and my current lock-right locker will
> work just fine with the new carrier. I guess the bolt pattern or
> something is different, the new carrier is around $200.00 plus cost
> of the new gear set and master install kit.
> Thanks for for the feedback and advice!
> Tom
>
> "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<orLHb.23377$Pg1.22505@newsread1.news.pas.ear thlink.net>...
> > Hey guys, I'm not suggesting anybody is wrong. All I'm saying is I don't
> > recall having to replace the carrier in my D30 whenever I made this swap
> > back in spring of '96. The 4.56 ring bolted onto the stock carrier, and I
> > used it until about 4 months ago. If I hadn't taken the old D30 to salvage
> > last month, I'd go open it up and take a look. Both the CJ and the TJ use a
> > non-reverse cut D30, whereas the YJ uses a reverse-cut. Maybe this is the
> > difference -- I don't know. One thing is for sure: either it fit the stock
> > carrier on my 92YJ or all those brain cells I destroyed at a younger age is
> > starting to catch up with me!! :)
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Terry.
> >
> >
> >
> > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
> > news:i9IHb.31792$gN.19187@fed1read05...
> > > I can't imagine going from 3.07 to 4.56 without needing a new carrier in
> > any
> > > Dana axle. I believe any ratio 3.73 or lower (lower meaning 4.10, 4.56,
> > > etc.) needs a new carrier, even in something that old. My TJ's
> > non-reverse
> > > cut D30 sure did when I went from 3.55 to 4.10... but I kept the same
> > > carrier when converting from 4.10 to 4.88 earlier this year.
> > >
> > > --
> > > --
> > > Jerry Bransford
> > > To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> > > KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> > > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> > >
> > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > > news:x3IHb.32188$HR4.13579@news01.roc.ny...
> > > > I don't think there is any difference - all internal parts are the same.
> > > > Did you see Bill's list?
> > > > http://www.----------.com/tooth_count.txt
> > > >
> > > > JimG
> > > >
> > > > "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:zLHHb.22523$Pg1.19236@newsread1.news.pas.eart hlink.net...
> > > > > My original gear was 3.07 too, but I'm certain I did not have to
> > replace
> > the
> > > > > D30 carrier in conjunction with using the LockRite. Maybe this is a
> > > > > difference in the stock '80 vs '92 D30?
> > > > >
> > > > > Terry.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:FzHHb.32183$iN4.2074@news01.roc.ny...
> > > > > > If original gear is higher that 3.73, the carrier has to be
> > replaced.
> > My
> > > > > > original gear was 3.07. I had to replace the carriers in both front
> > and
> > > > > > rear.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > JimG
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:XZFHb.22399$Pg1.9205@newsread1.news.pas.earth link.net...
> > > > > > > It's been a few years, but thinking back I'm sure I didn't have to
> > replace
> > > > > > > the entire reverse-cut D30 carrier when I installed the 4.56 R&P
> > because
> > I
> > > > > > > installed a LockRight locker at the same time, which replaces the
> > side
> > and
> > > > > > > spider gears. Didn't your LockRight install go this way too?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Terry 92YJ
> > > > > > > (now running dual D60s w/Detroits)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:pdFHb.32159$Wc4.17075@news01.roc.ny...
> > > > > > > > You will have to get a new carrier for the D30, been there, done
> > that.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > JimG
> > > > > > > > 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> > > > > > > > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > > > > > > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> > > > > > > > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> > > > > > > > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > > > > > > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "Tom P." <TPatzlaff@aol.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > news:dd809f71.0312281017.6ee22391@posting.google.c om...
> > > > > > > > > I have an "88" wrangler with a Dana 35 rear and Dana 30 front.
> > I
> > > > > > > > > currently have 3.55 gears in both diffs. and would like to put
> > 4.56
> > > > > > > > > gears in both.
> > > > > > > > > The literature I can find says that if I have 3.55 or lower
> > gears
> > in
> > > > > > > > > the D35, I will be ok. But what I need to know is if the 4.56
> > gears
> > > > > > > > > will fit in the D30 case? From what I can find it sounds like
> > I'm
> > > > > > > > > going to need a housing with 3.73 or lower gears in it for the
> > 4.56
> > to
> > > > > > > > > fit.I need to find out the real answer.
> > > > > > > > > Has anyone out there put 4.56 gears in these size housings?
> > > > > > > > > Any help or advice would be great.
> > > > > > > > > Tom
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >