4.56 gears in a Dana 30 front
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Re: 4.56 gears in a Dana 30 front
The Super 35 kit uses a pressed in tapered bearing so when I snap one
of my new Chromolly Alloy axles, the wheel should stay on long enough
to get home.
Tom
L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote in message news:<3FF9C709.6511003D@***.net>...
> The Dana 44's axle won't fall out if it breaks, it being held in
> via a pressed on bearing like the Real Jeeps.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Bob wrote:
> >
> > Ok, that's kinda what I thought. You mention, though, that this is all
> > you can do with a D35 if you don't have a spare axle...I actually have
> > a 44 in the rear, 30 in the front. Are there other options for my
> > setup, should I ever break one of these axles, and not have a spare
> > w/me?
> >
> > Thanks!
of my new Chromolly Alloy axles, the wheel should stay on long enough
to get home.
Tom
L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote in message news:<3FF9C709.6511003D@***.net>...
> The Dana 44's axle won't fall out if it breaks, it being held in
> via a pressed on bearing like the Real Jeeps.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Bob wrote:
> >
> > Ok, that's kinda what I thought. You mention, though, that this is all
> > you can do with a D35 if you don't have a spare axle...I actually have
> > a 44 in the rear, 30 in the front. Are there other options for my
> > setup, should I ever break one of these axles, and not have a spare
> > w/me?
> >
> > Thanks!
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Re: 4.56 gears in a Dana 30 front
"Tom P." <TPatzlaff@aol.com> wrote in message
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> The Super 35 kit uses a pressed in tapered bearing so when I snap one
> of my new Chromolly Alloy axles, the wheel should stay on long enough
> to get home.
Not really, there's no bearing retainer plate that will hold things
together. It's still a c-clip design, although the axle shaft is much much
stronger, so if the shaft breaks, you're still screwed.
Jerry
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> Tom
>
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:<3FF9C709.6511003D@***.net>...
> > The Dana 44's axle won't fall out if it breaks, it being held in
> > via a pressed on bearing like the Real Jeeps.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Bob wrote:
> > >
> > > Ok, that's kinda what I thought. You mention, though, that this is all
> > > you can do with a D35 if you don't have a spare axle...I actually have
> > > a 44 in the rear, 30 in the front. Are there other options for my
> > > setup, should I ever break one of these axles, and not have a spare
> > > w/me?
> > >
> > > Thanks!
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Re: 4.56 gears in a Dana 30 front
"Tom P." <TPatzlaff@aol.com> wrote in message
news:dd809f71.0401082042.17c3a03a@posting.google.c om...
> The Super 35 kit uses a pressed in tapered bearing so when I snap one
> of my new Chromolly Alloy axles, the wheel should stay on long enough
> to get home.
Not really, there's no bearing retainer plate that will hold things
together. It's still a c-clip design, although the axle shaft is much much
stronger, so if the shaft breaks, you're still screwed.
Jerry
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> Tom
>
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:<3FF9C709.6511003D@***.net>...
> > The Dana 44's axle won't fall out if it breaks, it being held in
> > via a pressed on bearing like the Real Jeeps.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Bob wrote:
> > >
> > > Ok, that's kinda what I thought. You mention, though, that this is all
> > > you can do with a D35 if you don't have a spare axle...I actually have
> > > a 44 in the rear, 30 in the front. Are there other options for my
> > > setup, should I ever break one of these axles, and not have a spare
> > > w/me?
> > >
> > > Thanks!
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Re: 4.56 gears in a Dana 30 front
"Tom P." <TPatzlaff@aol.com> wrote in message
news:dd809f71.0401082042.17c3a03a@posting.google.c om...
> The Super 35 kit uses a pressed in tapered bearing so when I snap one
> of my new Chromolly Alloy axles, the wheel should stay on long enough
> to get home.
Not really, there's no bearing retainer plate that will hold things
together. It's still a c-clip design, although the axle shaft is much much
stronger, so if the shaft breaks, you're still screwed.
Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
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> Tom
>
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:<3FF9C709.6511003D@***.net>...
> > The Dana 44's axle won't fall out if it breaks, it being held in
> > via a pressed on bearing like the Real Jeeps.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Bob wrote:
> > >
> > > Ok, that's kinda what I thought. You mention, though, that this is all
> > > you can do with a D35 if you don't have a spare axle...I actually have
> > > a 44 in the rear, 30 in the front. Are there other options for my
> > > setup, should I ever break one of these axles, and not have a spare
> > > w/me?
> > >
> > > Thanks!
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Re: 4.56 gears in a Dana 30 front
On 08 Jan 2004 08:02 PM, Jerry Bransford posted the following:
>
>
> "Tom P." <TPatzlaff@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:dd809f71.0401082042.17c3a03a@posting.google.c om...
>> The Super 35 kit uses a pressed in tapered bearing so when I snap one
>> of my new Chromolly Alloy axles, the wheel should stay on long enough
>> to get home.
>
> Not really, there's no bearing retainer plate that will hold things
> together. It's still a c-clip design, although the axle shaft is much
> much stronger, so if the shaft breaks, you're still screwed.
Yup, if the Super 35 kit eliminated the C clips and the tendency of a
broken axle to exit the housing, I would order one tomorrow. If I am
going to put that kind of money into a D-35 I at least expect to get a
better retention system. Otherwise, I'd rather wait and spend a bit
more on a D-44.
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> "Tom P." <TPatzlaff@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:dd809f71.0401082042.17c3a03a@posting.google.c om...
>> The Super 35 kit uses a pressed in tapered bearing so when I snap one
>> of my new Chromolly Alloy axles, the wheel should stay on long enough
>> to get home.
>
> Not really, there's no bearing retainer plate that will hold things
> together. It's still a c-clip design, although the axle shaft is much
> much stronger, so if the shaft breaks, you're still screwed.
Yup, if the Super 35 kit eliminated the C clips and the tendency of a
broken axle to exit the housing, I would order one tomorrow. If I am
going to put that kind of money into a D-35 I at least expect to get a
better retention system. Otherwise, I'd rather wait and spend a bit
more on a D-44.
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Re: 4.56 gears in a Dana 30 front
On 08 Jan 2004 08:02 PM, Jerry Bransford posted the following:
>
>
> "Tom P." <TPatzlaff@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:dd809f71.0401082042.17c3a03a@posting.google.c om...
>> The Super 35 kit uses a pressed in tapered bearing so when I snap one
>> of my new Chromolly Alloy axles, the wheel should stay on long enough
>> to get home.
>
> Not really, there's no bearing retainer plate that will hold things
> together. It's still a c-clip design, although the axle shaft is much
> much stronger, so if the shaft breaks, you're still screwed.
Yup, if the Super 35 kit eliminated the C clips and the tendency of a
broken axle to exit the housing, I would order one tomorrow. If I am
going to put that kind of money into a D-35 I at least expect to get a
better retention system. Otherwise, I'd rather wait and spend a bit
more on a D-44.
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> "Tom P." <TPatzlaff@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:dd809f71.0401082042.17c3a03a@posting.google.c om...
>> The Super 35 kit uses a pressed in tapered bearing so when I snap one
>> of my new Chromolly Alloy axles, the wheel should stay on long enough
>> to get home.
>
> Not really, there's no bearing retainer plate that will hold things
> together. It's still a c-clip design, although the axle shaft is much
> much stronger, so if the shaft breaks, you're still screwed.
Yup, if the Super 35 kit eliminated the C clips and the tendency of a
broken axle to exit the housing, I would order one tomorrow. If I am
going to put that kind of money into a D-35 I at least expect to get a
better retention system. Otherwise, I'd rather wait and spend a bit
more on a D-44.
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Re: 4.56 gears in a Dana 30 front
On 08 Jan 2004 08:02 PM, Jerry Bransford posted the following:
>
>
> "Tom P." <TPatzlaff@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:dd809f71.0401082042.17c3a03a@posting.google.c om...
>> The Super 35 kit uses a pressed in tapered bearing so when I snap one
>> of my new Chromolly Alloy axles, the wheel should stay on long enough
>> to get home.
>
> Not really, there's no bearing retainer plate that will hold things
> together. It's still a c-clip design, although the axle shaft is much
> much stronger, so if the shaft breaks, you're still screwed.
Yup, if the Super 35 kit eliminated the C clips and the tendency of a
broken axle to exit the housing, I would order one tomorrow. If I am
going to put that kind of money into a D-35 I at least expect to get a
better retention system. Otherwise, I'd rather wait and spend a bit
more on a D-44.
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> "Tom P." <TPatzlaff@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:dd809f71.0401082042.17c3a03a@posting.google.c om...
>> The Super 35 kit uses a pressed in tapered bearing so when I snap one
>> of my new Chromolly Alloy axles, the wheel should stay on long enough
>> to get home.
>
> Not really, there's no bearing retainer plate that will hold things
> together. It's still a c-clip design, although the axle shaft is much
> much stronger, so if the shaft breaks, you're still screwed.
Yup, if the Super 35 kit eliminated the C clips and the tendency of a
broken axle to exit the housing, I would order one tomorrow. If I am
going to put that kind of money into a D-35 I at least expect to get a
better retention system. Otherwise, I'd rather wait and spend a bit
more on a D-44.
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A Segue (was Re: 4.56 gears in a Dana 30 front)
Hey Guys,
I hope that you won't mind my stepping in with a slightly different,
although related, question:
I have a 01 XJ, stock Upcountry Pkg, 5sp tranny with the basic steel
wheels. I *think* that this means that, like the OP in this conversation,
I have the D30/35 3.56 differentials.
I've changed my tires to beef up the sidewalls and clearance for my
occasional forays into rock, such as one might encounter on the passes of
Colorado. (I do a bit of backcountry skiing in the Springtime; this took
me over Cinnamon Pass and to Ophir Pass, e.g., last season just after both
roads were opened.) These new tires are 30x9.5LT tires, and they've
changed my driveline ratio enough that I'm having trouble maintaining my
engine revs on the mountain roads I regularly drive, so I'm considering a
differential gear ratio change.
Now for the questions part:
(1) What is the recommended source/parts manufacturer for what I'm trying
to do?
(2) Assuming I do go through with things, does anyone have a
recommendation on how far to go? Does a 4:10 differential make sense for
my application? I probably only rarely drive over 80mph, but I'd rather
not have to be at 3k rpm to achieve this speed on the highway for long
timeframes. Also, will a 4:10 even fit in my diff cases?
(3) My rear differential is of the stock pseudo limited slip variety
(Traclok?). Does it make sense at this time to consider going with a more
capable limited slip product? How about on the front too?
Many thanks to all for any suggestions you might have...
cheers,
john
I hope that you won't mind my stepping in with a slightly different,
although related, question:
I have a 01 XJ, stock Upcountry Pkg, 5sp tranny with the basic steel
wheels. I *think* that this means that, like the OP in this conversation,
I have the D30/35 3.56 differentials.
I've changed my tires to beef up the sidewalls and clearance for my
occasional forays into rock, such as one might encounter on the passes of
Colorado. (I do a bit of backcountry skiing in the Springtime; this took
me over Cinnamon Pass and to Ophir Pass, e.g., last season just after both
roads were opened.) These new tires are 30x9.5LT tires, and they've
changed my driveline ratio enough that I'm having trouble maintaining my
engine revs on the mountain roads I regularly drive, so I'm considering a
differential gear ratio change.
Now for the questions part:
(1) What is the recommended source/parts manufacturer for what I'm trying
to do?
(2) Assuming I do go through with things, does anyone have a
recommendation on how far to go? Does a 4:10 differential make sense for
my application? I probably only rarely drive over 80mph, but I'd rather
not have to be at 3k rpm to achieve this speed on the highway for long
timeframes. Also, will a 4:10 even fit in my diff cases?
(3) My rear differential is of the stock pseudo limited slip variety
(Traclok?). Does it make sense at this time to consider going with a more
capable limited slip product? How about on the front too?
Many thanks to all for any suggestions you might have...
cheers,
john
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A Segue (was Re: 4.56 gears in a Dana 30 front)
Hey Guys,
I hope that you won't mind my stepping in with a slightly different,
although related, question:
I have a 01 XJ, stock Upcountry Pkg, 5sp tranny with the basic steel
wheels. I *think* that this means that, like the OP in this conversation,
I have the D30/35 3.56 differentials.
I've changed my tires to beef up the sidewalls and clearance for my
occasional forays into rock, such as one might encounter on the passes of
Colorado. (I do a bit of backcountry skiing in the Springtime; this took
me over Cinnamon Pass and to Ophir Pass, e.g., last season just after both
roads were opened.) These new tires are 30x9.5LT tires, and they've
changed my driveline ratio enough that I'm having trouble maintaining my
engine revs on the mountain roads I regularly drive, so I'm considering a
differential gear ratio change.
Now for the questions part:
(1) What is the recommended source/parts manufacturer for what I'm trying
to do?
(2) Assuming I do go through with things, does anyone have a
recommendation on how far to go? Does a 4:10 differential make sense for
my application? I probably only rarely drive over 80mph, but I'd rather
not have to be at 3k rpm to achieve this speed on the highway for long
timeframes. Also, will a 4:10 even fit in my diff cases?
(3) My rear differential is of the stock pseudo limited slip variety
(Traclok?). Does it make sense at this time to consider going with a more
capable limited slip product? How about on the front too?
Many thanks to all for any suggestions you might have...
cheers,
john
I hope that you won't mind my stepping in with a slightly different,
although related, question:
I have a 01 XJ, stock Upcountry Pkg, 5sp tranny with the basic steel
wheels. I *think* that this means that, like the OP in this conversation,
I have the D30/35 3.56 differentials.
I've changed my tires to beef up the sidewalls and clearance for my
occasional forays into rock, such as one might encounter on the passes of
Colorado. (I do a bit of backcountry skiing in the Springtime; this took
me over Cinnamon Pass and to Ophir Pass, e.g., last season just after both
roads were opened.) These new tires are 30x9.5LT tires, and they've
changed my driveline ratio enough that I'm having trouble maintaining my
engine revs on the mountain roads I regularly drive, so I'm considering a
differential gear ratio change.
Now for the questions part:
(1) What is the recommended source/parts manufacturer for what I'm trying
to do?
(2) Assuming I do go through with things, does anyone have a
recommendation on how far to go? Does a 4:10 differential make sense for
my application? I probably only rarely drive over 80mph, but I'd rather
not have to be at 3k rpm to achieve this speed on the highway for long
timeframes. Also, will a 4:10 even fit in my diff cases?
(3) My rear differential is of the stock pseudo limited slip variety
(Traclok?). Does it make sense at this time to consider going with a more
capable limited slip product? How about on the front too?
Many thanks to all for any suggestions you might have...
cheers,
john
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A Segue (was Re: 4.56 gears in a Dana 30 front)
Hey Guys,
I hope that you won't mind my stepping in with a slightly different,
although related, question:
I have a 01 XJ, stock Upcountry Pkg, 5sp tranny with the basic steel
wheels. I *think* that this means that, like the OP in this conversation,
I have the D30/35 3.56 differentials.
I've changed my tires to beef up the sidewalls and clearance for my
occasional forays into rock, such as one might encounter on the passes of
Colorado. (I do a bit of backcountry skiing in the Springtime; this took
me over Cinnamon Pass and to Ophir Pass, e.g., last season just after both
roads were opened.) These new tires are 30x9.5LT tires, and they've
changed my driveline ratio enough that I'm having trouble maintaining my
engine revs on the mountain roads I regularly drive, so I'm considering a
differential gear ratio change.
Now for the questions part:
(1) What is the recommended source/parts manufacturer for what I'm trying
to do?
(2) Assuming I do go through with things, does anyone have a
recommendation on how far to go? Does a 4:10 differential make sense for
my application? I probably only rarely drive over 80mph, but I'd rather
not have to be at 3k rpm to achieve this speed on the highway for long
timeframes. Also, will a 4:10 even fit in my diff cases?
(3) My rear differential is of the stock pseudo limited slip variety
(Traclok?). Does it make sense at this time to consider going with a more
capable limited slip product? How about on the front too?
Many thanks to all for any suggestions you might have...
cheers,
john
I hope that you won't mind my stepping in with a slightly different,
although related, question:
I have a 01 XJ, stock Upcountry Pkg, 5sp tranny with the basic steel
wheels. I *think* that this means that, like the OP in this conversation,
I have the D30/35 3.56 differentials.
I've changed my tires to beef up the sidewalls and clearance for my
occasional forays into rock, such as one might encounter on the passes of
Colorado. (I do a bit of backcountry skiing in the Springtime; this took
me over Cinnamon Pass and to Ophir Pass, e.g., last season just after both
roads were opened.) These new tires are 30x9.5LT tires, and they've
changed my driveline ratio enough that I'm having trouble maintaining my
engine revs on the mountain roads I regularly drive, so I'm considering a
differential gear ratio change.
Now for the questions part:
(1) What is the recommended source/parts manufacturer for what I'm trying
to do?
(2) Assuming I do go through with things, does anyone have a
recommendation on how far to go? Does a 4:10 differential make sense for
my application? I probably only rarely drive over 80mph, but I'd rather
not have to be at 3k rpm to achieve this speed on the highway for long
timeframes. Also, will a 4:10 even fit in my diff cases?
(3) My rear differential is of the stock pseudo limited slip variety
(Traclok?). Does it make sense at this time to consider going with a more
capable limited slip product? How about on the front too?
Many thanks to all for any suggestions you might have...
cheers,
john