Jerry Bransford

The new V6 has more torque & HP at higher RPMs but at low RPMs where it
counts on the trail, the I6 still delivers more torque. Jeep has been
very careful to not show the torque curve of that engine in quite some
time to avoid easy comparisons.

jcarter10@comcast.net wrote:
> It sounds terrific to me. And don't count out the V-6 unitl you try it. It
> has MORE TORQUE and horsepower than the old, inefficient AMC I-6 which has
> seen better days. (I'm running for cover now!!!)
>
>
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> news:8_cAf.14992$V.2127@fed1read04...
>
>>Only one or two minor dislikes like the new V6 engine. However, I've read
>>up on it pretty thoroughly and it's every bit the Wrangler as any previous
>>Wrangler was. Lots of improvments like the electronically actuated front
>>antiswaybar. If it wouldn't take me the same nine years to get it to the
>>level of my current Wrangler, I'd spring for one. It could have been a
>>lot worse, it could have had the better riding but worse performing
>>offroad IFS that so many feared.
>>
>>jcarter10@comcast.net wrote:
>>
>>>There's plenty of information on Jeep.com about it. So has anyone formed
>>>any opinions yet??
>>
>>--
>>Jerry Bransford
>>PP-ASEL N6TAY
>>See the Geezer Jeep at
>>http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
>
>

--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/

Jerry Bransford

The new V6 has more torque & HP at higher RPMs but at low RPMs where it
counts on the trail, the I6 still delivers more torque. Jeep has been
very careful to not show the torque curve of that engine in quite some
time to avoid easy comparisons.

jcarter10@comcast.net wrote:
> It sounds terrific to me. And don't count out the V-6 unitl you try it. It
> has MORE TORQUE and horsepower than the old, inefficient AMC I-6 which has
> seen better days. (I'm running for cover now!!!)
>
>
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> news:8_cAf.14992$V.2127@fed1read04...
>
>>Only one or two minor dislikes like the new V6 engine. However, I've read
>>up on it pretty thoroughly and it's every bit the Wrangler as any previous
>>Wrangler was. Lots of improvments like the electronically actuated front
>>antiswaybar. If it wouldn't take me the same nine years to get it to the
>>level of my current Wrangler, I'd spring for one. It could have been a
>>lot worse, it could have had the better riding but worse performing
>>offroad IFS that so many feared.
>>
>>jcarter10@comcast.net wrote:
>>
>>>There's plenty of information on Jeep.com about it. So has anyone formed
>>>any opinions yet??
>>
>>--
>>Jerry Bransford
>>PP-ASEL N6TAY
>>See the Geezer Jeep at
>>http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
>
>

--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/

Jerry Bransford

The new V6 has more torque & HP at higher RPMs but at low RPMs where it
counts on the trail, the I6 still delivers more torque. Jeep has been
very careful to not show the torque curve of that engine in quite some
time to avoid easy comparisons.

jcarter10@comcast.net wrote:
> It sounds terrific to me. And don't count out the V-6 unitl you try it. It
> has MORE TORQUE and horsepower than the old, inefficient AMC I-6 which has
> seen better days. (I'm running for cover now!!!)
>
>
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> news:8_cAf.14992$V.2127@fed1read04...
>
>>Only one or two minor dislikes like the new V6 engine. However, I've read
>>up on it pretty thoroughly and it's every bit the Wrangler as any previous
>>Wrangler was. Lots of improvments like the electronically actuated front
>>antiswaybar. If it wouldn't take me the same nine years to get it to the
>>level of my current Wrangler, I'd spring for one. It could have been a
>>lot worse, it could have had the better riding but worse performing
>>offroad IFS that so many feared.
>>
>>jcarter10@comcast.net wrote:
>>
>>>There's plenty of information on Jeep.com about it. So has anyone formed
>>>any opinions yet??
>>
>>--
>>Jerry Bransford
>>PP-ASEL N6TAY
>>See the Geezer Jeep at
>>http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
>
>

--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/

Carl

It might be old, but it's tried and true and has never let me down.

Carl


<jcarter10@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:HdKdndsXBdjI-0zeRVn-hg@comcast.com...
> It sounds terrific to me. And don't count out the V-6 unitl you try it. It
> has MORE TORQUE and horsepower than the old, inefficient AMC I-6 which has
> seen better days. (I'm running for cover now!!!)
>
>
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> news:8_cAf.14992$V.2127@fed1read04...
>> Only one or two minor dislikes like the new V6 engine. However, I've read
>> up on it pretty thoroughly and it's every bit the Wrangler as any
>> previous Wrangler was. Lots of improvments like the electronically
>> actuated front antiswaybar. If it wouldn't take me the same nine years
>> to get it to the level of my current Wrangler, I'd spring for one. It
>> could have been a lot worse, it could have had the better riding but
>> worse performing offroad IFS that so many feared.
>>
>> jcarter10@comcast.net wrote:
>>> There's plenty of information on Jeep.com about it. So has anyone formed
>>> any opinions yet??
>>
>> --
>> Jerry Bransford
>> PP-ASEL N6TAY
>> See the Geezer Jeep at
>> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
>

Carl

It might be old, but it's tried and true and has never let me down.

Carl


<jcarter10@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:HdKdndsXBdjI-0zeRVn-hg@comcast.com...
> It sounds terrific to me. And don't count out the V-6 unitl you try it. It
> has MORE TORQUE and horsepower than the old, inefficient AMC I-6 which has
> seen better days. (I'm running for cover now!!!)
>
>
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> news:8_cAf.14992$V.2127@fed1read04...
>> Only one or two minor dislikes like the new V6 engine. However, I've read
>> up on it pretty thoroughly and it's every bit the Wrangler as any
>> previous Wrangler was. Lots of improvments like the electronically
>> actuated front antiswaybar. If it wouldn't take me the same nine years
>> to get it to the level of my current Wrangler, I'd spring for one. It
>> could have been a lot worse, it could have had the better riding but
>> worse performing offroad IFS that so many feared.
>>
>> jcarter10@comcast.net wrote:
>>> There's plenty of information on Jeep.com about it. So has anyone formed
>>> any opinions yet??
>>
>> --
>> Jerry Bransford
>> PP-ASEL N6TAY
>> See the Geezer Jeep at
>> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
>

Carl

It might be old, but it's tried and true and has never let me down.

Carl


<jcarter10@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:HdKdndsXBdjI-0zeRVn-hg@comcast.com...
> It sounds terrific to me. And don't count out the V-6 unitl you try it. It
> has MORE TORQUE and horsepower than the old, inefficient AMC I-6 which has
> seen better days. (I'm running for cover now!!!)
>
>
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> news:8_cAf.14992$V.2127@fed1read04...
>> Only one or two minor dislikes like the new V6 engine. However, I've read
>> up on it pretty thoroughly and it's every bit the Wrangler as any
>> previous Wrangler was. Lots of improvments like the electronically
>> actuated front antiswaybar. If it wouldn't take me the same nine years
>> to get it to the level of my current Wrangler, I'd spring for one. It
>> could have been a lot worse, it could have had the better riding but
>> worse performing offroad IFS that so many feared.
>>
>> jcarter10@comcast.net wrote:
>>> There's plenty of information on Jeep.com about it. So has anyone formed
>>> any opinions yet??
>>
>> --
>> Jerry Bransford
>> PP-ASEL N6TAY
>> See the Geezer Jeep at
>> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
>

Simon Juncal

Coasty wrote:
> Only time will tell the I-6 is pretty much bullet proof and many have 200k
> or more with out any rebuilds. I am just glad I got mine.


It has it's good points... it's tough...
it's got lots of low end torque... actually that's it... 2 good points :)

I think you could give it a plus for having a decent selection of
aftermarket parts.... One Aluminum 4.0 conversion head, basically 2
"performance" intakes (Offy and Clifford)... a handfull of headers... a
couple home brew ignition mods (HEI and TFI) and a few aftermarkets like
MSD... and there's a few stroker options. A couple Carbs and a huge
selection of fuel injection kits. There are no block options, although
Hesco was talking about an Aluminum 4.0 block for a little while... it
seems to be dead in the water.

The bad points are; it's heavy, it's HUGE relative to it's output... For
it's displacment many modern engines have more than triple the HP and
Torque output.
It's a gas sucker even ignoring the Jeeps aerodynamic faults, it has an
almost absurdly small useable RPM range.

It's basically twice the size, and 150 pounds heavier than anything else
putting out 100-ish rear wheel HP. Couple that with the Jeep and you
have an engine that often strugles to go up hills at highway speed once
it gets a bit tired or out of tune.

All that said, it does have a certain character to it, but when I find
the right excuse it's gone from my 88 YJ. Maybe a 5.0 or 4.7 Mustang
engine (lots of aftermarket, wont be the first one to do the swap) or
maybe a CRD from the Libby (hopfully someone else will have done one by
the time I need to).

--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein

Simon Juncal

Coasty wrote:
> Only time will tell the I-6 is pretty much bullet proof and many have 200k
> or more with out any rebuilds. I am just glad I got mine.


It has it's good points... it's tough...
it's got lots of low end torque... actually that's it... 2 good points :)

I think you could give it a plus for having a decent selection of
aftermarket parts.... One Aluminum 4.0 conversion head, basically 2
"performance" intakes (Offy and Clifford)... a handfull of headers... a
couple home brew ignition mods (HEI and TFI) and a few aftermarkets like
MSD... and there's a few stroker options. A couple Carbs and a huge
selection of fuel injection kits. There are no block options, although
Hesco was talking about an Aluminum 4.0 block for a little while... it
seems to be dead in the water.

The bad points are; it's heavy, it's HUGE relative to it's output... For
it's displacment many modern engines have more than triple the HP and
Torque output.
It's a gas sucker even ignoring the Jeeps aerodynamic faults, it has an
almost absurdly small useable RPM range.

It's basically twice the size, and 150 pounds heavier than anything else
putting out 100-ish rear wheel HP. Couple that with the Jeep and you
have an engine that often strugles to go up hills at highway speed once
it gets a bit tired or out of tune.

All that said, it does have a certain character to it, but when I find
the right excuse it's gone from my 88 YJ. Maybe a 5.0 or 4.7 Mustang
engine (lots of aftermarket, wont be the first one to do the swap) or
maybe a CRD from the Libby (hopfully someone else will have done one by
the time I need to).

--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein

Simon Juncal

Coasty wrote:
> Only time will tell the I-6 is pretty much bullet proof and many have 200k
> or more with out any rebuilds. I am just glad I got mine.


It has it's good points... it's tough...
it's got lots of low end torque... actually that's it... 2 good points :)

I think you could give it a plus for having a decent selection of
aftermarket parts.... One Aluminum 4.0 conversion head, basically 2
"performance" intakes (Offy and Clifford)... a handfull of headers... a
couple home brew ignition mods (HEI and TFI) and a few aftermarkets like
MSD... and there's a few stroker options. A couple Carbs and a huge
selection of fuel injection kits. There are no block options, although
Hesco was talking about an Aluminum 4.0 block for a little while... it
seems to be dead in the water.

The bad points are; it's heavy, it's HUGE relative to it's output... For
it's displacment many modern engines have more than triple the HP and
Torque output.
It's a gas sucker even ignoring the Jeeps aerodynamic faults, it has an
almost absurdly small useable RPM range.

It's basically twice the size, and 150 pounds heavier than anything else
putting out 100-ish rear wheel HP. Couple that with the Jeep and you
have an engine that often strugles to go up hills at highway speed once
it gets a bit tired or out of tune.

All that said, it does have a certain character to it, but when I find
the right excuse it's gone from my 88 YJ. Maybe a 5.0 or 4.7 Mustang
engine (lots of aftermarket, wont be the first one to do the swap) or
maybe a CRD from the Libby (hopfully someone else will have done one by
the time I need to).

--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein

Earle Horton

If you want to buy me one, there is a place in Denver I can take it to get
dyno'ed. ;^)

Earle

"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:DOeAf.15002$V.14174@fed1read04...
> The new V6 has more torque & HP at higher RPMs but at low RPMs where it
> counts on the trail, the I6 still delivers more torque. Jeep has been
> very careful to not show the torque curve of that engine in quite some
> time to avoid easy comparisons.
>
> jcarter10@comcast.net wrote:
> > It sounds terrific to me. And don't count out the V-6 unitl you try it.
It
> > has MORE TORQUE and horsepower than the old, inefficient AMC I-6 which
has
> > seen better days. (I'm running for cover now!!!)
> >
> >
> >
> > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:8_cAf.14992$V.2127@fed1read04...
> >
> >>Only one or two minor dislikes like the new V6 engine. However, I've
read
> >>up on it pretty thoroughly and it's every bit the Wrangler as any
previous
> >>Wrangler was. Lots of improvments like the electronically actuated
front
> >>antiswaybar. If it wouldn't take me the same nine years to get it to
the
> >>level of my current Wrangler, I'd spring for one. It could have been a
> >>lot worse, it could have had the better riding but worse performing
> >>offroad IFS that so many feared.
> >>
> >>jcarter10@comcast.net wrote:
> >>
> >>>There's plenty of information on Jeep.com about it. So has anyone
formed
> >>>any opinions yet??
> >>
> >>--
> >>Jerry Bransford
> >>PP-ASEL N6TAY
> >>See the Geezer Jeep at
> >>http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/