2005 JGC as described by TrailerLife Mag
07-24-2004, 12:57 AM
#101
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Re: 2005 JGC as described by TrailerLife Mag
But, the little pintos blew the door off 2180s.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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Lon wrote:
>
> I got no quarrels with overhead cams, is just that they cost more to
> do right, and for similar performance are physically taller, making
> streamlining more difficult unless the engine is a boxer, put in the
> mid to rear, or both. And then there are the OHC engines where you
> set valve lash by putting little freaking shims in little cups on top
> of the valves...fun fun fun. With modern engine management much of
> the generally superior items from the older OHC designs can be mooted.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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Lon wrote:
>
> I got no quarrels with overhead cams, is just that they cost more to
> do right, and for similar performance are physically taller, making
> streamlining more difficult unless the engine is a boxer, put in the
> mid to rear, or both. And then there are the OHC engines where you
> set valve lash by putting little freaking shims in little cups on top
> of the valves...fun fun fun. With modern engine management much of
> the generally superior items from the older OHC designs can be mooted.
07-24-2004, 02:27 AM
#102
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Re: 2005 JGC as described by TrailerLife Mag
aag, pallet shims. And you can't buy the one you want, so you have to buy a
mixed bag.
Then you measure every damn one with a micrometer, work out the combination
you think you need, torque it down, discover you were a bit off. The redo.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:SskMc.19578$8_6.2803@attbi_s04...
> And then there are the OHC engines where you
> set valve lash by putting little freaking shims in little cups on top
> of the valves...fun fun fun.
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III proclaimed:
>
> > Hi Lon,
> > Over Head Cam worked OK, at over six hundred horse power, stock '67
> > Mustang Factory X:
> > http://www.popularhotrodding.com/fea...2phr_afxstang/ But, they
> > did break parts, that were very expensive compared to the create price
> > of twenty three hundred at the time:
> > http://automotivemileposts.com/autobrevity/ford427.html The '69 Boss 429
> > OHC was a true hemi: http://www.cia.com.au/seale/stangeng.html Uncle
> > Sam, called me during those years so I didn't get to play with them,
> > then marriage and other things began to take priority.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Lon wrote:
> >
> >> Plus the trick used on the hemi to change displacement won't work
> >> that well without the pushrod design. And a pushrod with modern
> >> fuel systems tends to be smaller vertically than a overhead cammer
> >> of comparable performance.
mixed bag.
Then you measure every damn one with a micrometer, work out the combination
you think you need, torque it down, discover you were a bit off. The redo.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:SskMc.19578$8_6.2803@attbi_s04...
> And then there are the OHC engines where you
> set valve lash by putting little freaking shims in little cups on top
> of the valves...fun fun fun.
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III proclaimed:
>
> > Hi Lon,
> > Over Head Cam worked OK, at over six hundred horse power, stock '67
> > Mustang Factory X:
> > http://www.popularhotrodding.com/fea...2phr_afxstang/ But, they
> > did break parts, that were very expensive compared to the create price
> > of twenty three hundred at the time:
> > http://automotivemileposts.com/autobrevity/ford427.html The '69 Boss 429
> > OHC was a true hemi: http://www.cia.com.au/seale/stangeng.html Uncle
> > Sam, called me during those years so I didn't get to play with them,
> > then marriage and other things began to take priority.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Lon wrote:
> >
> >> Plus the trick used on the hemi to change displacement won't work
> >> that well without the pushrod design. And a pushrod with modern
> >> fuel systems tends to be smaller vertically than a overhead cammer
> >> of comparable performance.
07-24-2004, 02:27 AM
#103
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Re: 2005 JGC as described by TrailerLife Mag
aag, pallet shims. And you can't buy the one you want, so you have to buy a
mixed bag.
Then you measure every damn one with a micrometer, work out the combination
you think you need, torque it down, discover you were a bit off. The redo.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:SskMc.19578$8_6.2803@attbi_s04...
> And then there are the OHC engines where you
> set valve lash by putting little freaking shims in little cups on top
> of the valves...fun fun fun.
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III proclaimed:
>
> > Hi Lon,
> > Over Head Cam worked OK, at over six hundred horse power, stock '67
> > Mustang Factory X:
> > http://www.popularhotrodding.com/fea...2phr_afxstang/ But, they
> > did break parts, that were very expensive compared to the create price
> > of twenty three hundred at the time:
> > http://automotivemileposts.com/autobrevity/ford427.html The '69 Boss 429
> > OHC was a true hemi: http://www.cia.com.au/seale/stangeng.html Uncle
> > Sam, called me during those years so I didn't get to play with them,
> > then marriage and other things began to take priority.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Lon wrote:
> >
> >> Plus the trick used on the hemi to change displacement won't work
> >> that well without the pushrod design. And a pushrod with modern
> >> fuel systems tends to be smaller vertically than a overhead cammer
> >> of comparable performance.
mixed bag.
Then you measure every damn one with a micrometer, work out the combination
you think you need, torque it down, discover you were a bit off. The redo.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:SskMc.19578$8_6.2803@attbi_s04...
> And then there are the OHC engines where you
> set valve lash by putting little freaking shims in little cups on top
> of the valves...fun fun fun.
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III proclaimed:
>
> > Hi Lon,
> > Over Head Cam worked OK, at over six hundred horse power, stock '67
> > Mustang Factory X:
> > http://www.popularhotrodding.com/fea...2phr_afxstang/ But, they
> > did break parts, that were very expensive compared to the create price
> > of twenty three hundred at the time:
> > http://automotivemileposts.com/autobrevity/ford427.html The '69 Boss 429
> > OHC was a true hemi: http://www.cia.com.au/seale/stangeng.html Uncle
> > Sam, called me during those years so I didn't get to play with them,
> > then marriage and other things began to take priority.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Lon wrote:
> >
> >> Plus the trick used on the hemi to change displacement won't work
> >> that well without the pushrod design. And a pushrod with modern
> >> fuel systems tends to be smaller vertically than a overhead cammer
> >> of comparable performance.
07-24-2004, 02:27 AM
#104
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Re: 2005 JGC as described by TrailerLife Mag
aag, pallet shims. And you can't buy the one you want, so you have to buy a
mixed bag.
Then you measure every damn one with a micrometer, work out the combination
you think you need, torque it down, discover you were a bit off. The redo.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:SskMc.19578$8_6.2803@attbi_s04...
> And then there are the OHC engines where you
> set valve lash by putting little freaking shims in little cups on top
> of the valves...fun fun fun.
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III proclaimed:
>
> > Hi Lon,
> > Over Head Cam worked OK, at over six hundred horse power, stock '67
> > Mustang Factory X:
> > http://www.popularhotrodding.com/fea...2phr_afxstang/ But, they
> > did break parts, that were very expensive compared to the create price
> > of twenty three hundred at the time:
> > http://automotivemileposts.com/autobrevity/ford427.html The '69 Boss 429
> > OHC was a true hemi: http://www.cia.com.au/seale/stangeng.html Uncle
> > Sam, called me during those years so I didn't get to play with them,
> > then marriage and other things began to take priority.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Lon wrote:
> >
> >> Plus the trick used on the hemi to change displacement won't work
> >> that well without the pushrod design. And a pushrod with modern
> >> fuel systems tends to be smaller vertically than a overhead cammer
> >> of comparable performance.
mixed bag.
Then you measure every damn one with a micrometer, work out the combination
you think you need, torque it down, discover you were a bit off. The redo.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:SskMc.19578$8_6.2803@attbi_s04...
> And then there are the OHC engines where you
> set valve lash by putting little freaking shims in little cups on top
> of the valves...fun fun fun.
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III proclaimed:
>
> > Hi Lon,
> > Over Head Cam worked OK, at over six hundred horse power, stock '67
> > Mustang Factory X:
> > http://www.popularhotrodding.com/fea...2phr_afxstang/ But, they
> > did break parts, that were very expensive compared to the create price
> > of twenty three hundred at the time:
> > http://automotivemileposts.com/autobrevity/ford427.html The '69 Boss 429
> > OHC was a true hemi: http://www.cia.com.au/seale/stangeng.html Uncle
> > Sam, called me during those years so I didn't get to play with them,
> > then marriage and other things began to take priority.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Lon wrote:
> >
> >> Plus the trick used on the hemi to change displacement won't work
> >> that well without the pushrod design. And a pushrod with modern
> >> fuel systems tends to be smaller vertically than a overhead cammer
> >> of comparable performance.
07-24-2004, 02:27 AM
#105
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Re: 2005 JGC as described by TrailerLife Mag
aag, pallet shims. And you can't buy the one you want, so you have to buy a
mixed bag.
Then you measure every damn one with a micrometer, work out the combination
you think you need, torque it down, discover you were a bit off. The redo.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:SskMc.19578$8_6.2803@attbi_s04...
> And then there are the OHC engines where you
> set valve lash by putting little freaking shims in little cups on top
> of the valves...fun fun fun.
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III proclaimed:
>
> > Hi Lon,
> > Over Head Cam worked OK, at over six hundred horse power, stock '67
> > Mustang Factory X:
> > http://www.popularhotrodding.com/fea...2phr_afxstang/ But, they
> > did break parts, that were very expensive compared to the create price
> > of twenty three hundred at the time:
> > http://automotivemileposts.com/autobrevity/ford427.html The '69 Boss 429
> > OHC was a true hemi: http://www.cia.com.au/seale/stangeng.html Uncle
> > Sam, called me during those years so I didn't get to play with them,
> > then marriage and other things began to take priority.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Lon wrote:
> >
> >> Plus the trick used on the hemi to change displacement won't work
> >> that well without the pushrod design. And a pushrod with modern
> >> fuel systems tends to be smaller vertically than a overhead cammer
> >> of comparable performance.
mixed bag.
Then you measure every damn one with a micrometer, work out the combination
you think you need, torque it down, discover you were a bit off. The redo.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:SskMc.19578$8_6.2803@attbi_s04...
> And then there are the OHC engines where you
> set valve lash by putting little freaking shims in little cups on top
> of the valves...fun fun fun.
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III proclaimed:
>
> > Hi Lon,
> > Over Head Cam worked OK, at over six hundred horse power, stock '67
> > Mustang Factory X:
> > http://www.popularhotrodding.com/fea...2phr_afxstang/ But, they
> > did break parts, that were very expensive compared to the create price
> > of twenty three hundred at the time:
> > http://automotivemileposts.com/autobrevity/ford427.html The '69 Boss 429
> > OHC was a true hemi: http://www.cia.com.au/seale/stangeng.html Uncle
> > Sam, called me during those years so I didn't get to play with them,
> > then marriage and other things began to take priority.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Lon wrote:
> >
> >> Plus the trick used on the hemi to change displacement won't work
> >> that well without the pushrod design. And a pushrod with modern
> >> fuel systems tends to be smaller vertically than a overhead cammer
> >> of comparable performance.
07-24-2004, 02:51 AM
#106
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Re: 2005 JGC as described by TrailerLife Mag
There's method to their madness.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Dave Milne wrote:
>
> aag, pallet shims. And you can't buy the one you want, so you have to buy a
> mixed bag.
> Then you measure every damn one with a micrometer, work out the combination
> you think you need, torque it down, discover you were a bit off. The redo.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Dave Milne wrote:
>
> aag, pallet shims. And you can't buy the one you want, so you have to buy a
> mixed bag.
> Then you measure every damn one with a micrometer, work out the combination
> you think you need, torque it down, discover you were a bit off. The redo.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
07-24-2004, 02:51 AM
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Re: 2005 JGC as described by TrailerLife Mag
There's method to their madness.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Dave Milne wrote:
>
> aag, pallet shims. And you can't buy the one you want, so you have to buy a
> mixed bag.
> Then you measure every damn one with a micrometer, work out the combination
> you think you need, torque it down, discover you were a bit off. The redo.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Dave Milne wrote:
>
> aag, pallet shims. And you can't buy the one you want, so you have to buy a
> mixed bag.
> Then you measure every damn one with a micrometer, work out the combination
> you think you need, torque it down, discover you were a bit off. The redo.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
07-24-2004, 02:51 AM
#108
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Re: 2005 JGC as described by TrailerLife Mag
There's method to their madness.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Dave Milne wrote:
>
> aag, pallet shims. And you can't buy the one you want, so you have to buy a
> mixed bag.
> Then you measure every damn one with a micrometer, work out the combination
> you think you need, torque it down, discover you were a bit off. The redo.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Dave Milne wrote:
>
> aag, pallet shims. And you can't buy the one you want, so you have to buy a
> mixed bag.
> Then you measure every damn one with a micrometer, work out the combination
> you think you need, torque it down, discover you were a bit off. The redo.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
07-24-2004, 02:51 AM
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Re: 2005 JGC as described by TrailerLife Mag
There's method to their madness.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Dave Milne wrote:
>
> aag, pallet shims. And you can't buy the one you want, so you have to buy a
> mixed bag.
> Then you measure every damn one with a micrometer, work out the combination
> you think you need, torque it down, discover you were a bit off. The redo.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Dave Milne wrote:
>
> aag, pallet shims. And you can't buy the one you want, so you have to buy a
> mixed bag.
> Then you measure every damn one with a micrometer, work out the combination
> you think you need, torque it down, discover you were a bit off. The redo.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
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