2004TJ front end wobble
06-25-2005, 12:39 AM
#91
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Re: 2004TJ front end wobble
Or maybe, do like the Real Jeeps and use a heavier tie rod, too:
http://www.4x4wire.com/jeep/tech/ste...od640480_5.jpg
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extremetjs wrote:
>
> All we do is jeep wranglers and have for about 8 years if your stablizer has
> less than 10,000 miles on it then you need to look at your tires for
> cupping..... we have found that is the tires are not rotated every 3000
> miles they will begin to cup and become junk I can be reached at
> larry_overman@hotmail.com I will forward a number you can reach me at we can
> talk better about the issue if you like.
>
> Larry.
http://www.4x4wire.com/jeep/tech/ste...od640480_5.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
extremetjs wrote:
>
> All we do is jeep wranglers and have for about 8 years if your stablizer has
> less than 10,000 miles on it then you need to look at your tires for
> cupping..... we have found that is the tires are not rotated every 3000
> miles they will begin to cup and become junk I can be reached at
> larry_overman@hotmail.com I will forward a number you can reach me at we can
> talk better about the issue if you like.
>
> Larry.
06-25-2005, 12:39 AM
#92
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Re: 2004TJ front end wobble
Or maybe, do like the Real Jeeps and use a heavier tie rod, too:
http://www.4x4wire.com/jeep/tech/ste...od640480_5.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
extremetjs wrote:
>
> All we do is jeep wranglers and have for about 8 years if your stablizer has
> less than 10,000 miles on it then you need to look at your tires for
> cupping..... we have found that is the tires are not rotated every 3000
> miles they will begin to cup and become junk I can be reached at
> larry_overman@hotmail.com I will forward a number you can reach me at we can
> talk better about the issue if you like.
>
> Larry.
http://www.4x4wire.com/jeep/tech/ste...od640480_5.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
extremetjs wrote:
>
> All we do is jeep wranglers and have for about 8 years if your stablizer has
> less than 10,000 miles on it then you need to look at your tires for
> cupping..... we have found that is the tires are not rotated every 3000
> miles they will begin to cup and become junk I can be reached at
> larry_overman@hotmail.com I will forward a number you can reach me at we can
> talk better about the issue if you like.
>
> Larry.
06-25-2005, 12:39 AM
#93
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Re: 2004TJ front end wobble
Or maybe, do like the Real Jeeps and use a heavier tie rod, too:
http://www.4x4wire.com/jeep/tech/ste...od640480_5.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
extremetjs wrote:
>
> All we do is jeep wranglers and have for about 8 years if your stablizer has
> less than 10,000 miles on it then you need to look at your tires for
> cupping..... we have found that is the tires are not rotated every 3000
> miles they will begin to cup and become junk I can be reached at
> larry_overman@hotmail.com I will forward a number you can reach me at we can
> talk better about the issue if you like.
>
> Larry.
http://www.4x4wire.com/jeep/tech/ste...od640480_5.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
extremetjs wrote:
>
> All we do is jeep wranglers and have for about 8 years if your stablizer has
> less than 10,000 miles on it then you need to look at your tires for
> cupping..... we have found that is the tires are not rotated every 3000
> miles they will begin to cup and become junk I can be reached at
> larry_overman@hotmail.com I will forward a number you can reach me at we can
> talk better about the issue if you like.
>
> Larry.
06-25-2005, 08:24 AM
#94
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Re: 2004TJ front end wobble
I can picture the "extreme" of cupping....but how can you tell if it's
slight?
The chalk test?
"extremetjs" <123@abc.com> wrote in message
news:1W4ve.2672$Lj2.2370@newssvr12.news.prodigy.co m...
> All we do is jeep wranglers and have for about 8 years if your stablizer
> has less than 10,000 miles on it then you need to look at your tires for
> cupping..... we have found that is the tires are not rotated every 3000
> miles they will begin to cup and become junk I can be reached at
> larry_overman@hotmail.com I will forward a number you can reach me at we
> can talk better about the issue if you like.
>
> Larry.
>
>
>
> <damgoodespresso@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1119671515.707633.261390@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
>> Update -
>>
>> I tightened the trackbar bolt at the axle to 50 ft-lbs - that made a
>> difference in the handling, but when I decided to try for 55 ft-lbs,
>> the bolt broke. Fortunately retrieving the nut from inside the bracket
>> wasn't too difficult...
>>
>> The FSM specifies 40 ft-lbs - and it looks like that's about the limit.
>> Also - all that should be needed with a rubber bushing like that is
>> enough torque to secure the bolt - the mating of rubber bushing at the
>> center to bolt should do the rest. Excessive lateral torque would
>> cause the compressed surface of bolt -> bracket -> surface of bushing
>> ->anterior surface of bushing -> bracket -> nut to bear, which is not
>> right. Sigh. I should have checked the setting before tightening.
>>
>> It's possible the bushing is worn, but it doesn't look it. I can get a
>> replacement bolt tomorrow, tighten it to the 40 ft-lb setting, then see
>> where we go from there.
>>
>> --doug
>>
>
>
slight?
The chalk test?
"extremetjs" <123@abc.com> wrote in message
news:1W4ve.2672$Lj2.2370@newssvr12.news.prodigy.co m...
> All we do is jeep wranglers and have for about 8 years if your stablizer
> has less than 10,000 miles on it then you need to look at your tires for
> cupping..... we have found that is the tires are not rotated every 3000
> miles they will begin to cup and become junk I can be reached at
> larry_overman@hotmail.com I will forward a number you can reach me at we
> can talk better about the issue if you like.
>
> Larry.
>
>
>
> <damgoodespresso@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1119671515.707633.261390@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
>> Update -
>>
>> I tightened the trackbar bolt at the axle to 50 ft-lbs - that made a
>> difference in the handling, but when I decided to try for 55 ft-lbs,
>> the bolt broke. Fortunately retrieving the nut from inside the bracket
>> wasn't too difficult...
>>
>> The FSM specifies 40 ft-lbs - and it looks like that's about the limit.
>> Also - all that should be needed with a rubber bushing like that is
>> enough torque to secure the bolt - the mating of rubber bushing at the
>> center to bolt should do the rest. Excessive lateral torque would
>> cause the compressed surface of bolt -> bracket -> surface of bushing
>> ->anterior surface of bushing -> bracket -> nut to bear, which is not
>> right. Sigh. I should have checked the setting before tightening.
>>
>> It's possible the bushing is worn, but it doesn't look it. I can get a
>> replacement bolt tomorrow, tighten it to the 40 ft-lb setting, then see
>> where we go from there.
>>
>> --doug
>>
>
>
06-25-2005, 08:24 AM
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Re: 2004TJ front end wobble
I can picture the "extreme" of cupping....but how can you tell if it's
slight?
The chalk test?
"extremetjs" <123@abc.com> wrote in message
news:1W4ve.2672$Lj2.2370@newssvr12.news.prodigy.co m...
> All we do is jeep wranglers and have for about 8 years if your stablizer
> has less than 10,000 miles on it then you need to look at your tires for
> cupping..... we have found that is the tires are not rotated every 3000
> miles they will begin to cup and become junk I can be reached at
> larry_overman@hotmail.com I will forward a number you can reach me at we
> can talk better about the issue if you like.
>
> Larry.
>
>
>
> <damgoodespresso@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1119671515.707633.261390@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
>> Update -
>>
>> I tightened the trackbar bolt at the axle to 50 ft-lbs - that made a
>> difference in the handling, but when I decided to try for 55 ft-lbs,
>> the bolt broke. Fortunately retrieving the nut from inside the bracket
>> wasn't too difficult...
>>
>> The FSM specifies 40 ft-lbs - and it looks like that's about the limit.
>> Also - all that should be needed with a rubber bushing like that is
>> enough torque to secure the bolt - the mating of rubber bushing at the
>> center to bolt should do the rest. Excessive lateral torque would
>> cause the compressed surface of bolt -> bracket -> surface of bushing
>> ->anterior surface of bushing -> bracket -> nut to bear, which is not
>> right. Sigh. I should have checked the setting before tightening.
>>
>> It's possible the bushing is worn, but it doesn't look it. I can get a
>> replacement bolt tomorrow, tighten it to the 40 ft-lb setting, then see
>> where we go from there.
>>
>> --doug
>>
>
>
slight?
The chalk test?
"extremetjs" <123@abc.com> wrote in message
news:1W4ve.2672$Lj2.2370@newssvr12.news.prodigy.co m...
> All we do is jeep wranglers and have for about 8 years if your stablizer
> has less than 10,000 miles on it then you need to look at your tires for
> cupping..... we have found that is the tires are not rotated every 3000
> miles they will begin to cup and become junk I can be reached at
> larry_overman@hotmail.com I will forward a number you can reach me at we
> can talk better about the issue if you like.
>
> Larry.
>
>
>
> <damgoodespresso@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1119671515.707633.261390@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
>> Update -
>>
>> I tightened the trackbar bolt at the axle to 50 ft-lbs - that made a
>> difference in the handling, but when I decided to try for 55 ft-lbs,
>> the bolt broke. Fortunately retrieving the nut from inside the bracket
>> wasn't too difficult...
>>
>> The FSM specifies 40 ft-lbs - and it looks like that's about the limit.
>> Also - all that should be needed with a rubber bushing like that is
>> enough torque to secure the bolt - the mating of rubber bushing at the
>> center to bolt should do the rest. Excessive lateral torque would
>> cause the compressed surface of bolt -> bracket -> surface of bushing
>> ->anterior surface of bushing -> bracket -> nut to bear, which is not
>> right. Sigh. I should have checked the setting before tightening.
>>
>> It's possible the bushing is worn, but it doesn't look it. I can get a
>> replacement bolt tomorrow, tighten it to the 40 ft-lb setting, then see
>> where we go from there.
>>
>> --doug
>>
>
>
06-25-2005, 08:24 AM
#96
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Re: 2004TJ front end wobble
I can picture the "extreme" of cupping....but how can you tell if it's
slight?
The chalk test?
"extremetjs" <123@abc.com> wrote in message
news:1W4ve.2672$Lj2.2370@newssvr12.news.prodigy.co m...
> All we do is jeep wranglers and have for about 8 years if your stablizer
> has less than 10,000 miles on it then you need to look at your tires for
> cupping..... we have found that is the tires are not rotated every 3000
> miles they will begin to cup and become junk I can be reached at
> larry_overman@hotmail.com I will forward a number you can reach me at we
> can talk better about the issue if you like.
>
> Larry.
>
>
>
> <damgoodespresso@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1119671515.707633.261390@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
>> Update -
>>
>> I tightened the trackbar bolt at the axle to 50 ft-lbs - that made a
>> difference in the handling, but when I decided to try for 55 ft-lbs,
>> the bolt broke. Fortunately retrieving the nut from inside the bracket
>> wasn't too difficult...
>>
>> The FSM specifies 40 ft-lbs - and it looks like that's about the limit.
>> Also - all that should be needed with a rubber bushing like that is
>> enough torque to secure the bolt - the mating of rubber bushing at the
>> center to bolt should do the rest. Excessive lateral torque would
>> cause the compressed surface of bolt -> bracket -> surface of bushing
>> ->anterior surface of bushing -> bracket -> nut to bear, which is not
>> right. Sigh. I should have checked the setting before tightening.
>>
>> It's possible the bushing is worn, but it doesn't look it. I can get a
>> replacement bolt tomorrow, tighten it to the 40 ft-lb setting, then see
>> where we go from there.
>>
>> --doug
>>
>
>
slight?
The chalk test?
"extremetjs" <123@abc.com> wrote in message
news:1W4ve.2672$Lj2.2370@newssvr12.news.prodigy.co m...
> All we do is jeep wranglers and have for about 8 years if your stablizer
> has less than 10,000 miles on it then you need to look at your tires for
> cupping..... we have found that is the tires are not rotated every 3000
> miles they will begin to cup and become junk I can be reached at
> larry_overman@hotmail.com I will forward a number you can reach me at we
> can talk better about the issue if you like.
>
> Larry.
>
>
>
> <damgoodespresso@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1119671515.707633.261390@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
>> Update -
>>
>> I tightened the trackbar bolt at the axle to 50 ft-lbs - that made a
>> difference in the handling, but when I decided to try for 55 ft-lbs,
>> the bolt broke. Fortunately retrieving the nut from inside the bracket
>> wasn't too difficult...
>>
>> The FSM specifies 40 ft-lbs - and it looks like that's about the limit.
>> Also - all that should be needed with a rubber bushing like that is
>> enough torque to secure the bolt - the mating of rubber bushing at the
>> center to bolt should do the rest. Excessive lateral torque would
>> cause the compressed surface of bolt -> bracket -> surface of bushing
>> ->anterior surface of bushing -> bracket -> nut to bear, which is not
>> right. Sigh. I should have checked the setting before tightening.
>>
>> It's possible the bushing is worn, but it doesn't look it. I can get a
>> replacement bolt tomorrow, tighten it to the 40 ft-lb setting, then see
>> where we go from there.
>>
>> --doug
>>
>
>
06-25-2005, 08:24 AM
#97
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Re: 2004TJ front end wobble
I can picture the "extreme" of cupping....but how can you tell if it's
slight?
The chalk test?
"extremetjs" <123@abc.com> wrote in message
news:1W4ve.2672$Lj2.2370@newssvr12.news.prodigy.co m...
> All we do is jeep wranglers and have for about 8 years if your stablizer
> has less than 10,000 miles on it then you need to look at your tires for
> cupping..... we have found that is the tires are not rotated every 3000
> miles they will begin to cup and become junk I can be reached at
> larry_overman@hotmail.com I will forward a number you can reach me at we
> can talk better about the issue if you like.
>
> Larry.
>
>
>
> <damgoodespresso@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1119671515.707633.261390@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
>> Update -
>>
>> I tightened the trackbar bolt at the axle to 50 ft-lbs - that made a
>> difference in the handling, but when I decided to try for 55 ft-lbs,
>> the bolt broke. Fortunately retrieving the nut from inside the bracket
>> wasn't too difficult...
>>
>> The FSM specifies 40 ft-lbs - and it looks like that's about the limit.
>> Also - all that should be needed with a rubber bushing like that is
>> enough torque to secure the bolt - the mating of rubber bushing at the
>> center to bolt should do the rest. Excessive lateral torque would
>> cause the compressed surface of bolt -> bracket -> surface of bushing
>> ->anterior surface of bushing -> bracket -> nut to bear, which is not
>> right. Sigh. I should have checked the setting before tightening.
>>
>> It's possible the bushing is worn, but it doesn't look it. I can get a
>> replacement bolt tomorrow, tighten it to the 40 ft-lb setting, then see
>> where we go from there.
>>
>> --doug
>>
>
>
slight?
The chalk test?
"extremetjs" <123@abc.com> wrote in message
news:1W4ve.2672$Lj2.2370@newssvr12.news.prodigy.co m...
> All we do is jeep wranglers and have for about 8 years if your stablizer
> has less than 10,000 miles on it then you need to look at your tires for
> cupping..... we have found that is the tires are not rotated every 3000
> miles they will begin to cup and become junk I can be reached at
> larry_overman@hotmail.com I will forward a number you can reach me at we
> can talk better about the issue if you like.
>
> Larry.
>
>
>
> <damgoodespresso@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1119671515.707633.261390@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
>> Update -
>>
>> I tightened the trackbar bolt at the axle to 50 ft-lbs - that made a
>> difference in the handling, but when I decided to try for 55 ft-lbs,
>> the bolt broke. Fortunately retrieving the nut from inside the bracket
>> wasn't too difficult...
>>
>> The FSM specifies 40 ft-lbs - and it looks like that's about the limit.
>> Also - all that should be needed with a rubber bushing like that is
>> enough torque to secure the bolt - the mating of rubber bushing at the
>> center to bolt should do the rest. Excessive lateral torque would
>> cause the compressed surface of bolt -> bracket -> surface of bushing
>> ->anterior surface of bushing -> bracket -> nut to bear, which is not
>> right. Sigh. I should have checked the setting before tightening.
>>
>> It's possible the bushing is worn, but it doesn't look it. I can get a
>> replacement bolt tomorrow, tighten it to the 40 ft-lb setting, then see
>> where we go from there.
>>
>> --doug
>>
>
>
06-25-2005, 10:19 AM
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Re: 2004TJ front end wobble
you will be able to feel it with you hand the edge of the tread will feel
sharper (or feathered like)
Larry
"Steve" <steve.brady(woo hoo)@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:N-OdnYgKdsJi0SDfRVn-sg@rogers.com...
>I can picture the "extreme" of cupping....but how can you tell if it's
>slight?
> The chalk test?
>
>
> "extremetjs" <123@abc.com> wrote in message
> news:1W4ve.2672$Lj2.2370@newssvr12.news.prodigy.co m...
>> All we do is jeep wranglers and have for about 8 years if your stablizer
>> has less than 10,000 miles on it then you need to look at your tires for
>> cupping..... we have found that is the tires are not rotated every 3000
>> miles they will begin to cup and become junk I can be reached at
>> larry_overman@hotmail.com I will forward a number you can reach me at we
>> can talk better about the issue if you like.
>>
>> Larry.
>>
>>
>>
>> <damgoodespresso@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1119671515.707633.261390@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
>>> Update -
>>>
>>> I tightened the trackbar bolt at the axle to 50 ft-lbs - that made a
>>> difference in the handling, but when I decided to try for 55 ft-lbs,
>>> the bolt broke. Fortunately retrieving the nut from inside the bracket
>>> wasn't too difficult...
>>>
>>> The FSM specifies 40 ft-lbs - and it looks like that's about the limit.
>>> Also - all that should be needed with a rubber bushing like that is
>>> enough torque to secure the bolt - the mating of rubber bushing at the
>>> center to bolt should do the rest. Excessive lateral torque would
>>> cause the compressed surface of bolt -> bracket -> surface of bushing
>>> ->anterior surface of bushing -> bracket -> nut to bear, which is not
>>> right. Sigh. I should have checked the setting before tightening.
>>>
>>> It's possible the bushing is worn, but it doesn't look it. I can get a
>>> replacement bolt tomorrow, tighten it to the 40 ft-lb setting, then see
>>> where we go from there.
>>>
>>> --doug
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
sharper (or feathered like)
Larry
"Steve" <steve.brady(woo hoo)@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:N-OdnYgKdsJi0SDfRVn-sg@rogers.com...
>I can picture the "extreme" of cupping....but how can you tell if it's
>slight?
> The chalk test?
>
>
> "extremetjs" <123@abc.com> wrote in message
> news:1W4ve.2672$Lj2.2370@newssvr12.news.prodigy.co m...
>> All we do is jeep wranglers and have for about 8 years if your stablizer
>> has less than 10,000 miles on it then you need to look at your tires for
>> cupping..... we have found that is the tires are not rotated every 3000
>> miles they will begin to cup and become junk I can be reached at
>> larry_overman@hotmail.com I will forward a number you can reach me at we
>> can talk better about the issue if you like.
>>
>> Larry.
>>
>>
>>
>> <damgoodespresso@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1119671515.707633.261390@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
>>> Update -
>>>
>>> I tightened the trackbar bolt at the axle to 50 ft-lbs - that made a
>>> difference in the handling, but when I decided to try for 55 ft-lbs,
>>> the bolt broke. Fortunately retrieving the nut from inside the bracket
>>> wasn't too difficult...
>>>
>>> The FSM specifies 40 ft-lbs - and it looks like that's about the limit.
>>> Also - all that should be needed with a rubber bushing like that is
>>> enough torque to secure the bolt - the mating of rubber bushing at the
>>> center to bolt should do the rest. Excessive lateral torque would
>>> cause the compressed surface of bolt -> bracket -> surface of bushing
>>> ->anterior surface of bushing -> bracket -> nut to bear, which is not
>>> right. Sigh. I should have checked the setting before tightening.
>>>
>>> It's possible the bushing is worn, but it doesn't look it. I can get a
>>> replacement bolt tomorrow, tighten it to the 40 ft-lb setting, then see
>>> where we go from there.
>>>
>>> --doug
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
06-25-2005, 10:19 AM
#99
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Re: 2004TJ front end wobble
you will be able to feel it with you hand the edge of the tread will feel
sharper (or feathered like)
Larry
"Steve" <steve.brady(woo hoo)@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:N-OdnYgKdsJi0SDfRVn-sg@rogers.com...
>I can picture the "extreme" of cupping....but how can you tell if it's
>slight?
> The chalk test?
>
>
> "extremetjs" <123@abc.com> wrote in message
> news:1W4ve.2672$Lj2.2370@newssvr12.news.prodigy.co m...
>> All we do is jeep wranglers and have for about 8 years if your stablizer
>> has less than 10,000 miles on it then you need to look at your tires for
>> cupping..... we have found that is the tires are not rotated every 3000
>> miles they will begin to cup and become junk I can be reached at
>> larry_overman@hotmail.com I will forward a number you can reach me at we
>> can talk better about the issue if you like.
>>
>> Larry.
>>
>>
>>
>> <damgoodespresso@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1119671515.707633.261390@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
>>> Update -
>>>
>>> I tightened the trackbar bolt at the axle to 50 ft-lbs - that made a
>>> difference in the handling, but when I decided to try for 55 ft-lbs,
>>> the bolt broke. Fortunately retrieving the nut from inside the bracket
>>> wasn't too difficult...
>>>
>>> The FSM specifies 40 ft-lbs - and it looks like that's about the limit.
>>> Also - all that should be needed with a rubber bushing like that is
>>> enough torque to secure the bolt - the mating of rubber bushing at the
>>> center to bolt should do the rest. Excessive lateral torque would
>>> cause the compressed surface of bolt -> bracket -> surface of bushing
>>> ->anterior surface of bushing -> bracket -> nut to bear, which is not
>>> right. Sigh. I should have checked the setting before tightening.
>>>
>>> It's possible the bushing is worn, but it doesn't look it. I can get a
>>> replacement bolt tomorrow, tighten it to the 40 ft-lb setting, then see
>>> where we go from there.
>>>
>>> --doug
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
sharper (or feathered like)
Larry
"Steve" <steve.brady(woo hoo)@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:N-OdnYgKdsJi0SDfRVn-sg@rogers.com...
>I can picture the "extreme" of cupping....but how can you tell if it's
>slight?
> The chalk test?
>
>
> "extremetjs" <123@abc.com> wrote in message
> news:1W4ve.2672$Lj2.2370@newssvr12.news.prodigy.co m...
>> All we do is jeep wranglers and have for about 8 years if your stablizer
>> has less than 10,000 miles on it then you need to look at your tires for
>> cupping..... we have found that is the tires are not rotated every 3000
>> miles they will begin to cup and become junk I can be reached at
>> larry_overman@hotmail.com I will forward a number you can reach me at we
>> can talk better about the issue if you like.
>>
>> Larry.
>>
>>
>>
>> <damgoodespresso@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1119671515.707633.261390@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
>>> Update -
>>>
>>> I tightened the trackbar bolt at the axle to 50 ft-lbs - that made a
>>> difference in the handling, but when I decided to try for 55 ft-lbs,
>>> the bolt broke. Fortunately retrieving the nut from inside the bracket
>>> wasn't too difficult...
>>>
>>> The FSM specifies 40 ft-lbs - and it looks like that's about the limit.
>>> Also - all that should be needed with a rubber bushing like that is
>>> enough torque to secure the bolt - the mating of rubber bushing at the
>>> center to bolt should do the rest. Excessive lateral torque would
>>> cause the compressed surface of bolt -> bracket -> surface of bushing
>>> ->anterior surface of bushing -> bracket -> nut to bear, which is not
>>> right. Sigh. I should have checked the setting before tightening.
>>>
>>> It's possible the bushing is worn, but it doesn't look it. I can get a
>>> replacement bolt tomorrow, tighten it to the 40 ft-lb setting, then see
>>> where we go from there.
>>>
>>> --doug
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
06-25-2005, 10:19 AM
#100
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Re: 2004TJ front end wobble
you will be able to feel it with you hand the edge of the tread will feel
sharper (or feathered like)
Larry
"Steve" <steve.brady(woo hoo)@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:N-OdnYgKdsJi0SDfRVn-sg@rogers.com...
>I can picture the "extreme" of cupping....but how can you tell if it's
>slight?
> The chalk test?
>
>
> "extremetjs" <123@abc.com> wrote in message
> news:1W4ve.2672$Lj2.2370@newssvr12.news.prodigy.co m...
>> All we do is jeep wranglers and have for about 8 years if your stablizer
>> has less than 10,000 miles on it then you need to look at your tires for
>> cupping..... we have found that is the tires are not rotated every 3000
>> miles they will begin to cup and become junk I can be reached at
>> larry_overman@hotmail.com I will forward a number you can reach me at we
>> can talk better about the issue if you like.
>>
>> Larry.
>>
>>
>>
>> <damgoodespresso@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1119671515.707633.261390@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
>>> Update -
>>>
>>> I tightened the trackbar bolt at the axle to 50 ft-lbs - that made a
>>> difference in the handling, but when I decided to try for 55 ft-lbs,
>>> the bolt broke. Fortunately retrieving the nut from inside the bracket
>>> wasn't too difficult...
>>>
>>> The FSM specifies 40 ft-lbs - and it looks like that's about the limit.
>>> Also - all that should be needed with a rubber bushing like that is
>>> enough torque to secure the bolt - the mating of rubber bushing at the
>>> center to bolt should do the rest. Excessive lateral torque would
>>> cause the compressed surface of bolt -> bracket -> surface of bushing
>>> ->anterior surface of bushing -> bracket -> nut to bear, which is not
>>> right. Sigh. I should have checked the setting before tightening.
>>>
>>> It's possible the bushing is worn, but it doesn't look it. I can get a
>>> replacement bolt tomorrow, tighten it to the 40 ft-lb setting, then see
>>> where we go from there.
>>>
>>> --doug
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
sharper (or feathered like)
Larry
"Steve" <steve.brady(woo hoo)@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:N-OdnYgKdsJi0SDfRVn-sg@rogers.com...
>I can picture the "extreme" of cupping....but how can you tell if it's
>slight?
> The chalk test?
>
>
> "extremetjs" <123@abc.com> wrote in message
> news:1W4ve.2672$Lj2.2370@newssvr12.news.prodigy.co m...
>> All we do is jeep wranglers and have for about 8 years if your stablizer
>> has less than 10,000 miles on it then you need to look at your tires for
>> cupping..... we have found that is the tires are not rotated every 3000
>> miles they will begin to cup and become junk I can be reached at
>> larry_overman@hotmail.com I will forward a number you can reach me at we
>> can talk better about the issue if you like.
>>
>> Larry.
>>
>>
>>
>> <damgoodespresso@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1119671515.707633.261390@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
>>> Update -
>>>
>>> I tightened the trackbar bolt at the axle to 50 ft-lbs - that made a
>>> difference in the handling, but when I decided to try for 55 ft-lbs,
>>> the bolt broke. Fortunately retrieving the nut from inside the bracket
>>> wasn't too difficult...
>>>
>>> The FSM specifies 40 ft-lbs - and it looks like that's about the limit.
>>> Also - all that should be needed with a rubber bushing like that is
>>> enough torque to secure the bolt - the mating of rubber bushing at the
>>> center to bolt should do the rest. Excessive lateral torque would
>>> cause the compressed surface of bolt -> bracket -> surface of bushing
>>> ->anterior surface of bushing -> bracket -> nut to bear, which is not
>>> right. Sigh. I should have checked the setting before tightening.
>>>
>>> It's possible the bushing is worn, but it doesn't look it. I can get a
>>> replacement bolt tomorrow, tighten it to the 40 ft-lb setting, then see
>>> where we go from there.
>>>
>>> --doug
>>>
>>
>>
>
>