2004 V8 Grand cherokee stalls, starter delay.
02-10-2006, 10:06 AM
#51
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Re: 2004 V8 Grand cherokee stalls, starter delay.
His gauges pin out too. The 'really' implies a loss of body ground so
the system is stealing the ground through the instruments. This will
burn out things pretty fast too. It will/can smoke out a stereo if the
ground feeds through there.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Lee Ayrton wrote:
>
> The shifter interlock might explain the no-crank symptom but it doesn't
> have anything to do with the rough running and stalling.
>
> Dirty battery terminals can look normal from the outside but still have
> high resistance where it matters.
>
> steve wrote:
> > Well it just happened again. The battery terminals are very tight. I
> > suppose I will clean them, they don't even look dirty, but we'll see. I
> > told the wife to do what I did, turn on the key, move gearshift to neutral
> > then park and try again. That has always worked so far. I bet it's a
> > detent switch os similar. I need to search for recalls, and will clean
> > terminals anyway.
> > Steve
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:43EB5223.520C1333@sympatico.ca...
> >
> >>You are still describing a bad connection on the main power. Running
> >>bad is like when you run the battery dead and the engine runs like crap
> >>before it up and dies.
> >>
> >>The arcs that happen at the bad connection can weld a contact that will
> >>work for a little while sometimes. That is likely what happens when you
> >>shut it down and used the high amp starter again.
> >>
> >>It might stay stable for a bit, but if it happens again I would clean
> >>the battery terminals. It could up and let you down anytime. Well,
> >>when the exact same thing happens to mine, I don't wait to get stuck
> >>someplace, I go after the connections anyway.
> >>
> >>Mike
> >>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >>
> >>steve wrote:
> >>
> >>>That doesn't seem too logical, well maybe a little. It was very
> >>>consistent.
> >>>The delay of the starter to run, and the freaky guages. There was a
> >>>delay,
> >>>the engine did start but ran bad. I would think the alternator would
> >>>cure a
> >>>bad battery connection as far as the engine run quality goes, could be
> >>>wrong. It was in park, locked. I could imagine a bad neutral safety
> >>>switch, or intermittent I suppose. I have diagnosed bad chrysler door
> >>>switches myself on a previous car, and instructed the dealer to check
> >>>them
> >>>and replace them due to the car locking me out. They went around my
> >>>diagnosis and tried to reprogram my alarm, sidestepping the root cause.
> >>>I
> >>>went to the parts counter and replaced them myself for next to nothing.
> >>>Problem fixed. And about 5 minutes labor for me. -If I have money I
> >>>prefer
> >>>to not work on my non-classic cars (then). Now I have to...I'm thinking
> >>>possible it's more of a computer software glitch or most likely a sensor,
> >>>but the diagnostics didn't catch anything.
> >>>"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> >>>news:43E6B7AE.6D097C61@***.net...
> >>>
> >>>> Damn it! The Stealers intercepted for another touch.
> >>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >>>>
> >>>>Mike Romain wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>Nope, haven't owned many automatics. Makes sense now.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Party time eh!
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Mike
> >
> >
> >
the system is stealing the ground through the instruments. This will
burn out things pretty fast too. It will/can smoke out a stereo if the
ground feeds through there.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Lee Ayrton wrote:
>
> The shifter interlock might explain the no-crank symptom but it doesn't
> have anything to do with the rough running and stalling.
>
> Dirty battery terminals can look normal from the outside but still have
> high resistance where it matters.
>
> steve wrote:
> > Well it just happened again. The battery terminals are very tight. I
> > suppose I will clean them, they don't even look dirty, but we'll see. I
> > told the wife to do what I did, turn on the key, move gearshift to neutral
> > then park and try again. That has always worked so far. I bet it's a
> > detent switch os similar. I need to search for recalls, and will clean
> > terminals anyway.
> > Steve
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:43EB5223.520C1333@sympatico.ca...
> >
> >>You are still describing a bad connection on the main power. Running
> >>bad is like when you run the battery dead and the engine runs like crap
> >>before it up and dies.
> >>
> >>The arcs that happen at the bad connection can weld a contact that will
> >>work for a little while sometimes. That is likely what happens when you
> >>shut it down and used the high amp starter again.
> >>
> >>It might stay stable for a bit, but if it happens again I would clean
> >>the battery terminals. It could up and let you down anytime. Well,
> >>when the exact same thing happens to mine, I don't wait to get stuck
> >>someplace, I go after the connections anyway.
> >>
> >>Mike
> >>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >>
> >>steve wrote:
> >>
> >>>That doesn't seem too logical, well maybe a little. It was very
> >>>consistent.
> >>>The delay of the starter to run, and the freaky guages. There was a
> >>>delay,
> >>>the engine did start but ran bad. I would think the alternator would
> >>>cure a
> >>>bad battery connection as far as the engine run quality goes, could be
> >>>wrong. It was in park, locked. I could imagine a bad neutral safety
> >>>switch, or intermittent I suppose. I have diagnosed bad chrysler door
> >>>switches myself on a previous car, and instructed the dealer to check
> >>>them
> >>>and replace them due to the car locking me out. They went around my
> >>>diagnosis and tried to reprogram my alarm, sidestepping the root cause.
> >>>I
> >>>went to the parts counter and replaced them myself for next to nothing.
> >>>Problem fixed. And about 5 minutes labor for me. -If I have money I
> >>>prefer
> >>>to not work on my non-classic cars (then). Now I have to...I'm thinking
> >>>possible it's more of a computer software glitch or most likely a sensor,
> >>>but the diagnostics didn't catch anything.
> >>>"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> >>>news:43E6B7AE.6D097C61@***.net...
> >>>
> >>>> Damn it! The Stealers intercepted for another touch.
> >>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >>>>
> >>>>Mike Romain wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>Nope, haven't owned many automatics. Makes sense now.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Party time eh!
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Mike
> >
> >
> >
02-10-2006, 10:06 AM
#52
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Posts: n/a
Re: 2004 V8 Grand cherokee stalls, starter delay.
His gauges pin out too. The 'really' implies a loss of body ground so
the system is stealing the ground through the instruments. This will
burn out things pretty fast too. It will/can smoke out a stereo if the
ground feeds through there.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Lee Ayrton wrote:
>
> The shifter interlock might explain the no-crank symptom but it doesn't
> have anything to do with the rough running and stalling.
>
> Dirty battery terminals can look normal from the outside but still have
> high resistance where it matters.
>
> steve wrote:
> > Well it just happened again. The battery terminals are very tight. I
> > suppose I will clean them, they don't even look dirty, but we'll see. I
> > told the wife to do what I did, turn on the key, move gearshift to neutral
> > then park and try again. That has always worked so far. I bet it's a
> > detent switch os similar. I need to search for recalls, and will clean
> > terminals anyway.
> > Steve
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:43EB5223.520C1333@sympatico.ca...
> >
> >>You are still describing a bad connection on the main power. Running
> >>bad is like when you run the battery dead and the engine runs like crap
> >>before it up and dies.
> >>
> >>The arcs that happen at the bad connection can weld a contact that will
> >>work for a little while sometimes. That is likely what happens when you
> >>shut it down and used the high amp starter again.
> >>
> >>It might stay stable for a bit, but if it happens again I would clean
> >>the battery terminals. It could up and let you down anytime. Well,
> >>when the exact same thing happens to mine, I don't wait to get stuck
> >>someplace, I go after the connections anyway.
> >>
> >>Mike
> >>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >>
> >>steve wrote:
> >>
> >>>That doesn't seem too logical, well maybe a little. It was very
> >>>consistent.
> >>>The delay of the starter to run, and the freaky guages. There was a
> >>>delay,
> >>>the engine did start but ran bad. I would think the alternator would
> >>>cure a
> >>>bad battery connection as far as the engine run quality goes, could be
> >>>wrong. It was in park, locked. I could imagine a bad neutral safety
> >>>switch, or intermittent I suppose. I have diagnosed bad chrysler door
> >>>switches myself on a previous car, and instructed the dealer to check
> >>>them
> >>>and replace them due to the car locking me out. They went around my
> >>>diagnosis and tried to reprogram my alarm, sidestepping the root cause.
> >>>I
> >>>went to the parts counter and replaced them myself for next to nothing.
> >>>Problem fixed. And about 5 minutes labor for me. -If I have money I
> >>>prefer
> >>>to not work on my non-classic cars (then). Now I have to...I'm thinking
> >>>possible it's more of a computer software glitch or most likely a sensor,
> >>>but the diagnostics didn't catch anything.
> >>>"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> >>>news:43E6B7AE.6D097C61@***.net...
> >>>
> >>>> Damn it! The Stealers intercepted for another touch.
> >>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >>>>
> >>>>Mike Romain wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>Nope, haven't owned many automatics. Makes sense now.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Party time eh!
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Mike
> >
> >
> >
the system is stealing the ground through the instruments. This will
burn out things pretty fast too. It will/can smoke out a stereo if the
ground feeds through there.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Lee Ayrton wrote:
>
> The shifter interlock might explain the no-crank symptom but it doesn't
> have anything to do with the rough running and stalling.
>
> Dirty battery terminals can look normal from the outside but still have
> high resistance where it matters.
>
> steve wrote:
> > Well it just happened again. The battery terminals are very tight. I
> > suppose I will clean them, they don't even look dirty, but we'll see. I
> > told the wife to do what I did, turn on the key, move gearshift to neutral
> > then park and try again. That has always worked so far. I bet it's a
> > detent switch os similar. I need to search for recalls, and will clean
> > terminals anyway.
> > Steve
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:43EB5223.520C1333@sympatico.ca...
> >
> >>You are still describing a bad connection on the main power. Running
> >>bad is like when you run the battery dead and the engine runs like crap
> >>before it up and dies.
> >>
> >>The arcs that happen at the bad connection can weld a contact that will
> >>work for a little while sometimes. That is likely what happens when you
> >>shut it down and used the high amp starter again.
> >>
> >>It might stay stable for a bit, but if it happens again I would clean
> >>the battery terminals. It could up and let you down anytime. Well,
> >>when the exact same thing happens to mine, I don't wait to get stuck
> >>someplace, I go after the connections anyway.
> >>
> >>Mike
> >>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >>
> >>steve wrote:
> >>
> >>>That doesn't seem too logical, well maybe a little. It was very
> >>>consistent.
> >>>The delay of the starter to run, and the freaky guages. There was a
> >>>delay,
> >>>the engine did start but ran bad. I would think the alternator would
> >>>cure a
> >>>bad battery connection as far as the engine run quality goes, could be
> >>>wrong. It was in park, locked. I could imagine a bad neutral safety
> >>>switch, or intermittent I suppose. I have diagnosed bad chrysler door
> >>>switches myself on a previous car, and instructed the dealer to check
> >>>them
> >>>and replace them due to the car locking me out. They went around my
> >>>diagnosis and tried to reprogram my alarm, sidestepping the root cause.
> >>>I
> >>>went to the parts counter and replaced them myself for next to nothing.
> >>>Problem fixed. And about 5 minutes labor for me. -If I have money I
> >>>prefer
> >>>to not work on my non-classic cars (then). Now I have to...I'm thinking
> >>>possible it's more of a computer software glitch or most likely a sensor,
> >>>but the diagnostics didn't catch anything.
> >>>"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> >>>news:43E6B7AE.6D097C61@***.net...
> >>>
> >>>> Damn it! The Stealers intercepted for another touch.
> >>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >>>>
> >>>>Mike Romain wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>Nope, haven't owned many automatics. Makes sense now.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Party time eh!
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Mike
> >
> >
> >
02-11-2006, 12:01 AM
#53
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 2004 V8 Grand cherokee stalls, starter delay.
Well, I took it to the dealer since it's under warranty. They said it was a
bad cell in the battery and replaced it under the warranty. ---We'll see.
Stay tuned.
Steve
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:43ECABFF.632FEB6F@sympatico.ca...
> His gauges pin out too. The 'really' implies a loss of body ground so
> the system is stealing the ground through the instruments. This will
> burn out things pretty fast too. It will/can smoke out a stereo if the
> ground feeds through there.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Lee Ayrton wrote:
>>
>> The shifter interlock might explain the no-crank symptom but it doesn't
>> have anything to do with the rough running and stalling.
>>
>> Dirty battery terminals can look normal from the outside but still have
>> high resistance where it matters.
>>
>> steve wrote:
>> > Well it just happened again. The battery terminals are very tight. I
>> > suppose I will clean them, they don't even look dirty, but we'll see.
>> > I
>> > told the wife to do what I did, turn on the key, move gearshift to
>> > neutral
>> > then park and try again. That has always worked so far. I bet it's a
>> > detent switch os similar. I need to search for recalls, and will clean
>> > terminals anyway.
>> > Steve
>> >
>> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> > news:43EB5223.520C1333@sympatico.ca...
>> >
>> >>You are still describing a bad connection on the main power. Running
>> >>bad is like when you run the battery dead and the engine runs like crap
>> >>before it up and dies.
>> >>
>> >>The arcs that happen at the bad connection can weld a contact that will
>> >>work for a little while sometimes. That is likely what happens when
>> >>you
>> >>shut it down and used the high amp starter again.
>> >>
>> >>It might stay stable for a bit, but if it happens again I would clean
>> >>the battery terminals. It could up and let you down anytime. Well,
>> >>when the exact same thing happens to mine, I don't wait to get stuck
>> >>someplace, I go after the connections anyway.
>> >>
>> >>Mike
>> >>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> >>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> >>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> >>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>> >>
>> >>steve wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>That doesn't seem too logical, well maybe a little. It was very
>> >>>consistent.
>> >>>The delay of the starter to run, and the freaky guages. There was a
>> >>>delay,
>> >>>the engine did start but ran bad. I would think the alternator would
>> >>>cure a
>> >>>bad battery connection as far as the engine run quality goes, could be
>> >>>wrong. It was in park, locked. I could imagine a bad neutral safety
>> >>>switch, or intermittent I suppose. I have diagnosed bad chrysler
>> >>>door
>> >>>switches myself on a previous car, and instructed the dealer to check
>> >>>them
>> >>>and replace them due to the car locking me out. They went around my
>> >>>diagnosis and tried to reprogram my alarm, sidestepping the root
>> >>>cause.
>> >>>I
>> >>>went to the parts counter and replaced them myself for next to
>> >>>nothing.
>> >>>Problem fixed. And about 5 minutes labor for me. -If I have money I
>> >>>prefer
>> >>>to not work on my non-classic cars (then). Now I have to...I'm
>> >>>thinking
>> >>>possible it's more of a computer software glitch or most likely a
>> >>>sensor,
>> >>>but the diagnostics didn't catch anything.
>> >>>"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> >>>news:43E6B7AE.6D097C61@***.net...
>> >>>
>> >>>> Damn it! The Stealers intercepted for another touch.
>> >>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> >>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>Nope, haven't owned many automatics. Makes sense now.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Party time eh!
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Mike
>> >
>> >
>> >
bad cell in the battery and replaced it under the warranty. ---We'll see.
Stay tuned.
Steve
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:43ECABFF.632FEB6F@sympatico.ca...
> His gauges pin out too. The 'really' implies a loss of body ground so
> the system is stealing the ground through the instruments. This will
> burn out things pretty fast too. It will/can smoke out a stereo if the
> ground feeds through there.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Lee Ayrton wrote:
>>
>> The shifter interlock might explain the no-crank symptom but it doesn't
>> have anything to do with the rough running and stalling.
>>
>> Dirty battery terminals can look normal from the outside but still have
>> high resistance where it matters.
>>
>> steve wrote:
>> > Well it just happened again. The battery terminals are very tight. I
>> > suppose I will clean them, they don't even look dirty, but we'll see.
>> > I
>> > told the wife to do what I did, turn on the key, move gearshift to
>> > neutral
>> > then park and try again. That has always worked so far. I bet it's a
>> > detent switch os similar. I need to search for recalls, and will clean
>> > terminals anyway.
>> > Steve
>> >
>> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> > news:43EB5223.520C1333@sympatico.ca...
>> >
>> >>You are still describing a bad connection on the main power. Running
>> >>bad is like when you run the battery dead and the engine runs like crap
>> >>before it up and dies.
>> >>
>> >>The arcs that happen at the bad connection can weld a contact that will
>> >>work for a little while sometimes. That is likely what happens when
>> >>you
>> >>shut it down and used the high amp starter again.
>> >>
>> >>It might stay stable for a bit, but if it happens again I would clean
>> >>the battery terminals. It could up and let you down anytime. Well,
>> >>when the exact same thing happens to mine, I don't wait to get stuck
>> >>someplace, I go after the connections anyway.
>> >>
>> >>Mike
>> >>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> >>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> >>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> >>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>> >>
>> >>steve wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>That doesn't seem too logical, well maybe a little. It was very
>> >>>consistent.
>> >>>The delay of the starter to run, and the freaky guages. There was a
>> >>>delay,
>> >>>the engine did start but ran bad. I would think the alternator would
>> >>>cure a
>> >>>bad battery connection as far as the engine run quality goes, could be
>> >>>wrong. It was in park, locked. I could imagine a bad neutral safety
>> >>>switch, or intermittent I suppose. I have diagnosed bad chrysler
>> >>>door
>> >>>switches myself on a previous car, and instructed the dealer to check
>> >>>them
>> >>>and replace them due to the car locking me out. They went around my
>> >>>diagnosis and tried to reprogram my alarm, sidestepping the root
>> >>>cause.
>> >>>I
>> >>>went to the parts counter and replaced them myself for next to
>> >>>nothing.
>> >>>Problem fixed. And about 5 minutes labor for me. -If I have money I
>> >>>prefer
>> >>>to not work on my non-classic cars (then). Now I have to...I'm
>> >>>thinking
>> >>>possible it's more of a computer software glitch or most likely a
>> >>>sensor,
>> >>>but the diagnostics didn't catch anything.
>> >>>"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> >>>news:43E6B7AE.6D097C61@***.net...
>> >>>
>> >>>> Damn it! The Stealers intercepted for another touch.
>> >>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> >>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>Nope, haven't owned many automatics. Makes sense now.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Party time eh!
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Mike
>> >
>> >
>> >
02-11-2006, 12:01 AM
#54
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 2004 V8 Grand cherokee stalls, starter delay.
Well, I took it to the dealer since it's under warranty. They said it was a
bad cell in the battery and replaced it under the warranty. ---We'll see.
Stay tuned.
Steve
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:43ECABFF.632FEB6F@sympatico.ca...
> His gauges pin out too. The 'really' implies a loss of body ground so
> the system is stealing the ground through the instruments. This will
> burn out things pretty fast too. It will/can smoke out a stereo if the
> ground feeds through there.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Lee Ayrton wrote:
>>
>> The shifter interlock might explain the no-crank symptom but it doesn't
>> have anything to do with the rough running and stalling.
>>
>> Dirty battery terminals can look normal from the outside but still have
>> high resistance where it matters.
>>
>> steve wrote:
>> > Well it just happened again. The battery terminals are very tight. I
>> > suppose I will clean them, they don't even look dirty, but we'll see.
>> > I
>> > told the wife to do what I did, turn on the key, move gearshift to
>> > neutral
>> > then park and try again. That has always worked so far. I bet it's a
>> > detent switch os similar. I need to search for recalls, and will clean
>> > terminals anyway.
>> > Steve
>> >
>> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> > news:43EB5223.520C1333@sympatico.ca...
>> >
>> >>You are still describing a bad connection on the main power. Running
>> >>bad is like when you run the battery dead and the engine runs like crap
>> >>before it up and dies.
>> >>
>> >>The arcs that happen at the bad connection can weld a contact that will
>> >>work for a little while sometimes. That is likely what happens when
>> >>you
>> >>shut it down and used the high amp starter again.
>> >>
>> >>It might stay stable for a bit, but if it happens again I would clean
>> >>the battery terminals. It could up and let you down anytime. Well,
>> >>when the exact same thing happens to mine, I don't wait to get stuck
>> >>someplace, I go after the connections anyway.
>> >>
>> >>Mike
>> >>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> >>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> >>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> >>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>> >>
>> >>steve wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>That doesn't seem too logical, well maybe a little. It was very
>> >>>consistent.
>> >>>The delay of the starter to run, and the freaky guages. There was a
>> >>>delay,
>> >>>the engine did start but ran bad. I would think the alternator would
>> >>>cure a
>> >>>bad battery connection as far as the engine run quality goes, could be
>> >>>wrong. It was in park, locked. I could imagine a bad neutral safety
>> >>>switch, or intermittent I suppose. I have diagnosed bad chrysler
>> >>>door
>> >>>switches myself on a previous car, and instructed the dealer to check
>> >>>them
>> >>>and replace them due to the car locking me out. They went around my
>> >>>diagnosis and tried to reprogram my alarm, sidestepping the root
>> >>>cause.
>> >>>I
>> >>>went to the parts counter and replaced them myself for next to
>> >>>nothing.
>> >>>Problem fixed. And about 5 minutes labor for me. -If I have money I
>> >>>prefer
>> >>>to not work on my non-classic cars (then). Now I have to...I'm
>> >>>thinking
>> >>>possible it's more of a computer software glitch or most likely a
>> >>>sensor,
>> >>>but the diagnostics didn't catch anything.
>> >>>"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> >>>news:43E6B7AE.6D097C61@***.net...
>> >>>
>> >>>> Damn it! The Stealers intercepted for another touch.
>> >>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> >>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>Nope, haven't owned many automatics. Makes sense now.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Party time eh!
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Mike
>> >
>> >
>> >
bad cell in the battery and replaced it under the warranty. ---We'll see.
Stay tuned.
Steve
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:43ECABFF.632FEB6F@sympatico.ca...
> His gauges pin out too. The 'really' implies a loss of body ground so
> the system is stealing the ground through the instruments. This will
> burn out things pretty fast too. It will/can smoke out a stereo if the
> ground feeds through there.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Lee Ayrton wrote:
>>
>> The shifter interlock might explain the no-crank symptom but it doesn't
>> have anything to do with the rough running and stalling.
>>
>> Dirty battery terminals can look normal from the outside but still have
>> high resistance where it matters.
>>
>> steve wrote:
>> > Well it just happened again. The battery terminals are very tight. I
>> > suppose I will clean them, they don't even look dirty, but we'll see.
>> > I
>> > told the wife to do what I did, turn on the key, move gearshift to
>> > neutral
>> > then park and try again. That has always worked so far. I bet it's a
>> > detent switch os similar. I need to search for recalls, and will clean
>> > terminals anyway.
>> > Steve
>> >
>> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> > news:43EB5223.520C1333@sympatico.ca...
>> >
>> >>You are still describing a bad connection on the main power. Running
>> >>bad is like when you run the battery dead and the engine runs like crap
>> >>before it up and dies.
>> >>
>> >>The arcs that happen at the bad connection can weld a contact that will
>> >>work for a little while sometimes. That is likely what happens when
>> >>you
>> >>shut it down and used the high amp starter again.
>> >>
>> >>It might stay stable for a bit, but if it happens again I would clean
>> >>the battery terminals. It could up and let you down anytime. Well,
>> >>when the exact same thing happens to mine, I don't wait to get stuck
>> >>someplace, I go after the connections anyway.
>> >>
>> >>Mike
>> >>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> >>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> >>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> >>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>> >>
>> >>steve wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>That doesn't seem too logical, well maybe a little. It was very
>> >>>consistent.
>> >>>The delay of the starter to run, and the freaky guages. There was a
>> >>>delay,
>> >>>the engine did start but ran bad. I would think the alternator would
>> >>>cure a
>> >>>bad battery connection as far as the engine run quality goes, could be
>> >>>wrong. It was in park, locked. I could imagine a bad neutral safety
>> >>>switch, or intermittent I suppose. I have diagnosed bad chrysler
>> >>>door
>> >>>switches myself on a previous car, and instructed the dealer to check
>> >>>them
>> >>>and replace them due to the car locking me out. They went around my
>> >>>diagnosis and tried to reprogram my alarm, sidestepping the root
>> >>>cause.
>> >>>I
>> >>>went to the parts counter and replaced them myself for next to
>> >>>nothing.
>> >>>Problem fixed. And about 5 minutes labor for me. -If I have money I
>> >>>prefer
>> >>>to not work on my non-classic cars (then). Now I have to...I'm
>> >>>thinking
>> >>>possible it's more of a computer software glitch or most likely a
>> >>>sensor,
>> >>>but the diagnostics didn't catch anything.
>> >>>"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> >>>news:43E6B7AE.6D097C61@***.net...
>> >>>
>> >>>> Damn it! The Stealers intercepted for another touch.
>> >>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> >>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>Nope, haven't owned many automatics. Makes sense now.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Party time eh!
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Mike
>> >
>> >
>> >
02-11-2006, 12:01 AM
#55
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 2004 V8 Grand cherokee stalls, starter delay.
Well, I took it to the dealer since it's under warranty. They said it was a
bad cell in the battery and replaced it under the warranty. ---We'll see.
Stay tuned.
Steve
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:43ECABFF.632FEB6F@sympatico.ca...
> His gauges pin out too. The 'really' implies a loss of body ground so
> the system is stealing the ground through the instruments. This will
> burn out things pretty fast too. It will/can smoke out a stereo if the
> ground feeds through there.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Lee Ayrton wrote:
>>
>> The shifter interlock might explain the no-crank symptom but it doesn't
>> have anything to do with the rough running and stalling.
>>
>> Dirty battery terminals can look normal from the outside but still have
>> high resistance where it matters.
>>
>> steve wrote:
>> > Well it just happened again. The battery terminals are very tight. I
>> > suppose I will clean them, they don't even look dirty, but we'll see.
>> > I
>> > told the wife to do what I did, turn on the key, move gearshift to
>> > neutral
>> > then park and try again. That has always worked so far. I bet it's a
>> > detent switch os similar. I need to search for recalls, and will clean
>> > terminals anyway.
>> > Steve
>> >
>> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> > news:43EB5223.520C1333@sympatico.ca...
>> >
>> >>You are still describing a bad connection on the main power. Running
>> >>bad is like when you run the battery dead and the engine runs like crap
>> >>before it up and dies.
>> >>
>> >>The arcs that happen at the bad connection can weld a contact that will
>> >>work for a little while sometimes. That is likely what happens when
>> >>you
>> >>shut it down and used the high amp starter again.
>> >>
>> >>It might stay stable for a bit, but if it happens again I would clean
>> >>the battery terminals. It could up and let you down anytime. Well,
>> >>when the exact same thing happens to mine, I don't wait to get stuck
>> >>someplace, I go after the connections anyway.
>> >>
>> >>Mike
>> >>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> >>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> >>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> >>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>> >>
>> >>steve wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>That doesn't seem too logical, well maybe a little. It was very
>> >>>consistent.
>> >>>The delay of the starter to run, and the freaky guages. There was a
>> >>>delay,
>> >>>the engine did start but ran bad. I would think the alternator would
>> >>>cure a
>> >>>bad battery connection as far as the engine run quality goes, could be
>> >>>wrong. It was in park, locked. I could imagine a bad neutral safety
>> >>>switch, or intermittent I suppose. I have diagnosed bad chrysler
>> >>>door
>> >>>switches myself on a previous car, and instructed the dealer to check
>> >>>them
>> >>>and replace them due to the car locking me out. They went around my
>> >>>diagnosis and tried to reprogram my alarm, sidestepping the root
>> >>>cause.
>> >>>I
>> >>>went to the parts counter and replaced them myself for next to
>> >>>nothing.
>> >>>Problem fixed. And about 5 minutes labor for me. -If I have money I
>> >>>prefer
>> >>>to not work on my non-classic cars (then). Now I have to...I'm
>> >>>thinking
>> >>>possible it's more of a computer software glitch or most likely a
>> >>>sensor,
>> >>>but the diagnostics didn't catch anything.
>> >>>"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> >>>news:43E6B7AE.6D097C61@***.net...
>> >>>
>> >>>> Damn it! The Stealers intercepted for another touch.
>> >>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> >>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>Nope, haven't owned many automatics. Makes sense now.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Party time eh!
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Mike
>> >
>> >
>> >
bad cell in the battery and replaced it under the warranty. ---We'll see.
Stay tuned.
Steve
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:43ECABFF.632FEB6F@sympatico.ca...
> His gauges pin out too. The 'really' implies a loss of body ground so
> the system is stealing the ground through the instruments. This will
> burn out things pretty fast too. It will/can smoke out a stereo if the
> ground feeds through there.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Lee Ayrton wrote:
>>
>> The shifter interlock might explain the no-crank symptom but it doesn't
>> have anything to do with the rough running and stalling.
>>
>> Dirty battery terminals can look normal from the outside but still have
>> high resistance where it matters.
>>
>> steve wrote:
>> > Well it just happened again. The battery terminals are very tight. I
>> > suppose I will clean them, they don't even look dirty, but we'll see.
>> > I
>> > told the wife to do what I did, turn on the key, move gearshift to
>> > neutral
>> > then park and try again. That has always worked so far. I bet it's a
>> > detent switch os similar. I need to search for recalls, and will clean
>> > terminals anyway.
>> > Steve
>> >
>> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> > news:43EB5223.520C1333@sympatico.ca...
>> >
>> >>You are still describing a bad connection on the main power. Running
>> >>bad is like when you run the battery dead and the engine runs like crap
>> >>before it up and dies.
>> >>
>> >>The arcs that happen at the bad connection can weld a contact that will
>> >>work for a little while sometimes. That is likely what happens when
>> >>you
>> >>shut it down and used the high amp starter again.
>> >>
>> >>It might stay stable for a bit, but if it happens again I would clean
>> >>the battery terminals. It could up and let you down anytime. Well,
>> >>when the exact same thing happens to mine, I don't wait to get stuck
>> >>someplace, I go after the connections anyway.
>> >>
>> >>Mike
>> >>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> >>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> >>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> >>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>> >>
>> >>steve wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>That doesn't seem too logical, well maybe a little. It was very
>> >>>consistent.
>> >>>The delay of the starter to run, and the freaky guages. There was a
>> >>>delay,
>> >>>the engine did start but ran bad. I would think the alternator would
>> >>>cure a
>> >>>bad battery connection as far as the engine run quality goes, could be
>> >>>wrong. It was in park, locked. I could imagine a bad neutral safety
>> >>>switch, or intermittent I suppose. I have diagnosed bad chrysler
>> >>>door
>> >>>switches myself on a previous car, and instructed the dealer to check
>> >>>them
>> >>>and replace them due to the car locking me out. They went around my
>> >>>diagnosis and tried to reprogram my alarm, sidestepping the root
>> >>>cause.
>> >>>I
>> >>>went to the parts counter and replaced them myself for next to
>> >>>nothing.
>> >>>Problem fixed. And about 5 minutes labor for me. -If I have money I
>> >>>prefer
>> >>>to not work on my non-classic cars (then). Now I have to...I'm
>> >>>thinking
>> >>>possible it's more of a computer software glitch or most likely a
>> >>>sensor,
>> >>>but the diagnostics didn't catch anything.
>> >>>"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> >>>news:43E6B7AE.6D097C61@***.net...
>> >>>
>> >>>> Damn it! The Stealers intercepted for another touch.
>> >>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> >>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>Nope, haven't owned many automatics. Makes sense now.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Party time eh!
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Mike
>> >
>> >
>> >
02-11-2006, 12:01 AM
#56
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 2004 V8 Grand cherokee stalls, starter delay.
Well, I took it to the dealer since it's under warranty. They said it was a
bad cell in the battery and replaced it under the warranty. ---We'll see.
Stay tuned.
Steve
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:43ECABFF.632FEB6F@sympatico.ca...
> His gauges pin out too. The 'really' implies a loss of body ground so
> the system is stealing the ground through the instruments. This will
> burn out things pretty fast too. It will/can smoke out a stereo if the
> ground feeds through there.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Lee Ayrton wrote:
>>
>> The shifter interlock might explain the no-crank symptom but it doesn't
>> have anything to do with the rough running and stalling.
>>
>> Dirty battery terminals can look normal from the outside but still have
>> high resistance where it matters.
>>
>> steve wrote:
>> > Well it just happened again. The battery terminals are very tight. I
>> > suppose I will clean them, they don't even look dirty, but we'll see.
>> > I
>> > told the wife to do what I did, turn on the key, move gearshift to
>> > neutral
>> > then park and try again. That has always worked so far. I bet it's a
>> > detent switch os similar. I need to search for recalls, and will clean
>> > terminals anyway.
>> > Steve
>> >
>> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> > news:43EB5223.520C1333@sympatico.ca...
>> >
>> >>You are still describing a bad connection on the main power. Running
>> >>bad is like when you run the battery dead and the engine runs like crap
>> >>before it up and dies.
>> >>
>> >>The arcs that happen at the bad connection can weld a contact that will
>> >>work for a little while sometimes. That is likely what happens when
>> >>you
>> >>shut it down and used the high amp starter again.
>> >>
>> >>It might stay stable for a bit, but if it happens again I would clean
>> >>the battery terminals. It could up and let you down anytime. Well,
>> >>when the exact same thing happens to mine, I don't wait to get stuck
>> >>someplace, I go after the connections anyway.
>> >>
>> >>Mike
>> >>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> >>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> >>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> >>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>> >>
>> >>steve wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>That doesn't seem too logical, well maybe a little. It was very
>> >>>consistent.
>> >>>The delay of the starter to run, and the freaky guages. There was a
>> >>>delay,
>> >>>the engine did start but ran bad. I would think the alternator would
>> >>>cure a
>> >>>bad battery connection as far as the engine run quality goes, could be
>> >>>wrong. It was in park, locked. I could imagine a bad neutral safety
>> >>>switch, or intermittent I suppose. I have diagnosed bad chrysler
>> >>>door
>> >>>switches myself on a previous car, and instructed the dealer to check
>> >>>them
>> >>>and replace them due to the car locking me out. They went around my
>> >>>diagnosis and tried to reprogram my alarm, sidestepping the root
>> >>>cause.
>> >>>I
>> >>>went to the parts counter and replaced them myself for next to
>> >>>nothing.
>> >>>Problem fixed. And about 5 minutes labor for me. -If I have money I
>> >>>prefer
>> >>>to not work on my non-classic cars (then). Now I have to...I'm
>> >>>thinking
>> >>>possible it's more of a computer software glitch or most likely a
>> >>>sensor,
>> >>>but the diagnostics didn't catch anything.
>> >>>"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> >>>news:43E6B7AE.6D097C61@***.net...
>> >>>
>> >>>> Damn it! The Stealers intercepted for another touch.
>> >>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> >>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>Nope, haven't owned many automatics. Makes sense now.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Party time eh!
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Mike
>> >
>> >
>> >
bad cell in the battery and replaced it under the warranty. ---We'll see.
Stay tuned.
Steve
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:43ECABFF.632FEB6F@sympatico.ca...
> His gauges pin out too. The 'really' implies a loss of body ground so
> the system is stealing the ground through the instruments. This will
> burn out things pretty fast too. It will/can smoke out a stereo if the
> ground feeds through there.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Lee Ayrton wrote:
>>
>> The shifter interlock might explain the no-crank symptom but it doesn't
>> have anything to do with the rough running and stalling.
>>
>> Dirty battery terminals can look normal from the outside but still have
>> high resistance where it matters.
>>
>> steve wrote:
>> > Well it just happened again. The battery terminals are very tight. I
>> > suppose I will clean them, they don't even look dirty, but we'll see.
>> > I
>> > told the wife to do what I did, turn on the key, move gearshift to
>> > neutral
>> > then park and try again. That has always worked so far. I bet it's a
>> > detent switch os similar. I need to search for recalls, and will clean
>> > terminals anyway.
>> > Steve
>> >
>> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> > news:43EB5223.520C1333@sympatico.ca...
>> >
>> >>You are still describing a bad connection on the main power. Running
>> >>bad is like when you run the battery dead and the engine runs like crap
>> >>before it up and dies.
>> >>
>> >>The arcs that happen at the bad connection can weld a contact that will
>> >>work for a little while sometimes. That is likely what happens when
>> >>you
>> >>shut it down and used the high amp starter again.
>> >>
>> >>It might stay stable for a bit, but if it happens again I would clean
>> >>the battery terminals. It could up and let you down anytime. Well,
>> >>when the exact same thing happens to mine, I don't wait to get stuck
>> >>someplace, I go after the connections anyway.
>> >>
>> >>Mike
>> >>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> >>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> >>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> >>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>> >>
>> >>steve wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>That doesn't seem too logical, well maybe a little. It was very
>> >>>consistent.
>> >>>The delay of the starter to run, and the freaky guages. There was a
>> >>>delay,
>> >>>the engine did start but ran bad. I would think the alternator would
>> >>>cure a
>> >>>bad battery connection as far as the engine run quality goes, could be
>> >>>wrong. It was in park, locked. I could imagine a bad neutral safety
>> >>>switch, or intermittent I suppose. I have diagnosed bad chrysler
>> >>>door
>> >>>switches myself on a previous car, and instructed the dealer to check
>> >>>them
>> >>>and replace them due to the car locking me out. They went around my
>> >>>diagnosis and tried to reprogram my alarm, sidestepping the root
>> >>>cause.
>> >>>I
>> >>>went to the parts counter and replaced them myself for next to
>> >>>nothing.
>> >>>Problem fixed. And about 5 minutes labor for me. -If I have money I
>> >>>prefer
>> >>>to not work on my non-classic cars (then). Now I have to...I'm
>> >>>thinking
>> >>>possible it's more of a computer software glitch or most likely a
>> >>>sensor,
>> >>>but the diagnostics didn't catch anything.
>> >>>"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> >>>news:43E6B7AE.6D097C61@***.net...
>> >>>
>> >>>> Damn it! The Stealers intercepted for another touch.
>> >>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> >>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>Nope, haven't owned many automatics. Makes sense now.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Party time eh!
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Mike
>> >
>> >
>> >
02-11-2006, 12:21 AM
#57
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 2004 V8 Grand cherokee stalls, starter delay.
Thanks for tell us what your Stealership diagnosed as the problem.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
steve wrote:
>
> Well, I took it to the dealer since it's under warranty. They said it was a
> bad cell in the battery and replaced it under the warranty. ---We'll see.
> Stay tuned.
> Steve
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
steve wrote:
>
> Well, I took it to the dealer since it's under warranty. They said it was a
> bad cell in the battery and replaced it under the warranty. ---We'll see.
> Stay tuned.
> Steve
02-11-2006, 12:21 AM
#58
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 2004 V8 Grand cherokee stalls, starter delay.
Thanks for tell us what your Stealership diagnosed as the problem.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
steve wrote:
>
> Well, I took it to the dealer since it's under warranty. They said it was a
> bad cell in the battery and replaced it under the warranty. ---We'll see.
> Stay tuned.
> Steve
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
steve wrote:
>
> Well, I took it to the dealer since it's under warranty. They said it was a
> bad cell in the battery and replaced it under the warranty. ---We'll see.
> Stay tuned.
> Steve
02-11-2006, 12:21 AM
#59
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Posts: n/a
Re: 2004 V8 Grand cherokee stalls, starter delay.
Thanks for tell us what your Stealership diagnosed as the problem.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
steve wrote:
>
> Well, I took it to the dealer since it's under warranty. They said it was a
> bad cell in the battery and replaced it under the warranty. ---We'll see.
> Stay tuned.
> Steve
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steve wrote:
>
> Well, I took it to the dealer since it's under warranty. They said it was a
> bad cell in the battery and replaced it under the warranty. ---We'll see.
> Stay tuned.
> Steve
02-11-2006, 12:21 AM
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Re: 2004 V8 Grand cherokee stalls, starter delay.
Thanks for tell us what your Stealership diagnosed as the problem.
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steve wrote:
>
> Well, I took it to the dealer since it's under warranty. They said it was a
> bad cell in the battery and replaced it under the warranty. ---We'll see.
> Stay tuned.
> Steve
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
steve wrote:
>
> Well, I took it to the dealer since it's under warranty. They said it was a
> bad cell in the battery and replaced it under the warranty. ---We'll see.
> Stay tuned.
> Steve
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