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have it towed in to the dealer jeep will flip the bill

"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:

> The relay switches have failed a couple of times with my
> Sister-in-law's Cherokee: http://www.----------.com/99cherok.jpg Hers
> stalled too, after it was hot enough to spray water on the electrical
> system, saving the engine.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> uniskae wrote:
> >
> > Thank you for showing me how to get fault codes L.W. ------ III. I got
> > two fault codes:
> >
> > P1489 (M) High Speed Fan CTRL Relay Circuit
> > An open or shorted condition detected in the control circuit of the
> > high-speed radiator fan control relay.
> >
> > P1490 (M) Low Speed Fan CTRL Relay Circuit
> > An open or shorted condition detected in control circuit of the
> > low-speed radiator fan control relay.
> >
> > I do not believe the large radiator fan is running, jsut after starting
> > the engine or after driving 20 miles.
> >
> > Could this be the cause of engine stall?

wkearney99

> AFAIK, the starter motor was turning bu the engine was not "chug
> chugging".

So you have TWO problems. One is that it died while driving. The other is
that now it won't engage the starter solenoid.

It's odd to have both of those problems at the same time. Strange enough
that electrical system problems might be involved. Don't know how an '04's
ignition control works but I'd start to wonder about the problem not
necessarily being in just the starter.

wkearney99

> AFAIK, the starter motor was turning bu the engine was not "chug
> chugging".

So you have TWO problems. One is that it died while driving. The other is
that now it won't engage the starter solenoid.

It's odd to have both of those problems at the same time. Strange enough
that electrical system problems might be involved. Don't know how an '04's
ignition control works but I'd start to wonder about the problem not
necessarily being in just the starter.

wkearney99

> AFAIK, the starter motor was turning bu the engine was not "chug
> chugging".

So you have TWO problems. One is that it died while driving. The other is
that now it won't engage the starter solenoid.

It's odd to have both of those problems at the same time. Strange enough
that electrical system problems might be involved. Don't know how an '04's
ignition control works but I'd start to wonder about the problem not
necessarily being in just the starter.

Lon

What is turning the alternator? How would it be turning if the
engine is not spinning? Do you mean the starter is spinning
but the engine is not being turned over?



uniskae proclaimed:

> My mistake the engine is a I-6 not a V6.
>
> The Engine does not crank at all, though the alternator is rotating. Is
> the Crank Position Sensor a mechanical or electrical device? What do
> you mean by "which it will do"?
>
>
> Snow wrote:
>
>>What engine does it have? would the engine crank over?
>>If the engine cranked over it could be a fuel pump problem. If the
>
> engine
>
>>was just dead and would not crank it might be you Crank Position
>
> Sensor.
>
>>when the sensor goes it causes some strange things to happen anything
>
> from
>
>>just dying (which it will do) to starting right up again to not
>
> starting for
>
>>a couple minutes.
>>
>>Snow...
>>
>>"uniskae" <uniskae@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>news:1102433091.763384.102470@z14g2000cwz.google groups.com...
>>
>>>I was in stop-and-go traffic and the Jeep engine simply turned off.
>
> I
>
>>>shifted the gear into Park and turned the key a few times. The
>>>alternator would rotate, however, the engine would not start. I
>
> waited
>
>>>for 15 seconds and turned the key and this time the engine started.
>>>Otherwise, the Jeep runs great. Any insights? Should I take the
>
> Jeep to
>
>>>the dealer? The Jeep has about 8000 miles on it. Thank you in
>
> advance.
>
>

Lon

What is turning the alternator? How would it be turning if the
engine is not spinning? Do you mean the starter is spinning
but the engine is not being turned over?



uniskae proclaimed:

> My mistake the engine is a I-6 not a V6.
>
> The Engine does not crank at all, though the alternator is rotating. Is
> the Crank Position Sensor a mechanical or electrical device? What do
> you mean by "which it will do"?
>
>
> Snow wrote:
>
>>What engine does it have? would the engine crank over?
>>If the engine cranked over it could be a fuel pump problem. If the
>
> engine
>
>>was just dead and would not crank it might be you Crank Position
>
> Sensor.
>
>>when the sensor goes it causes some strange things to happen anything
>
> from
>
>>just dying (which it will do) to starting right up again to not
>
> starting for
>
>>a couple minutes.
>>
>>Snow...
>>
>>"uniskae" <uniskae@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>news:1102433091.763384.102470@z14g2000cwz.google groups.com...
>>
>>>I was in stop-and-go traffic and the Jeep engine simply turned off.
>
> I
>
>>>shifted the gear into Park and turned the key a few times. The
>>>alternator would rotate, however, the engine would not start. I
>
> waited
>
>>>for 15 seconds and turned the key and this time the engine started.
>>>Otherwise, the Jeep runs great. Any insights? Should I take the
>
> Jeep to
>
>>>the dealer? The Jeep has about 8000 miles on it. Thank you in
>
> advance.
>
>

Lon

What is turning the alternator? How would it be turning if the
engine is not spinning? Do you mean the starter is spinning
but the engine is not being turned over?



uniskae proclaimed:

> My mistake the engine is a I-6 not a V6.
>
> The Engine does not crank at all, though the alternator is rotating. Is
> the Crank Position Sensor a mechanical or electrical device? What do
> you mean by "which it will do"?
>
>
> Snow wrote:
>
>>What engine does it have? would the engine crank over?
>>If the engine cranked over it could be a fuel pump problem. If the
>
> engine
>
>>was just dead and would not crank it might be you Crank Position
>
> Sensor.
>
>>when the sensor goes it causes some strange things to happen anything
>
> from
>
>>just dying (which it will do) to starting right up again to not
>
> starting for
>
>>a couple minutes.
>>
>>Snow...
>>
>>"uniskae" <uniskae@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>news:1102433091.763384.102470@z14g2000cwz.google groups.com...
>>
>>>I was in stop-and-go traffic and the Jeep engine simply turned off.
>
> I
>
>>>shifted the gear into Park and turned the key a few times. The
>>>alternator would rotate, however, the engine would not start. I
>
> waited
>
>>>for 15 seconds and turned the key and this time the engine started.
>>>Otherwise, the Jeep runs great. Any insights? Should I take the
>
> Jeep to
>
>>>the dealer? The Jeep has about 8000 miles on it. Thank you in
>
> advance.
>
>