2004 Jeep GC 4X4 stalls on city road
12-08-2004, 11:28 AM
#41
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Re: 2004 Jeep GC 4X4 stalls on city road
Engines can stall when too hot. This is not a good thing.....
I would be getting that into the dealer fast before you kill the
engine. Overheating or running hot will fast cook the valve seals and
turn the engine into a smoker, let along kill head gaskets, etc....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
uniskae wrote:
>
> Thank you for showing me how to get fault codes L.W. ------ III. I got
> two fault codes:
>
> P1489 (M) High Speed Fan CTRL Relay Circuit
> An open or shorted condition detected in the control circuit of the
> high-speed radiator fan control relay.
>
> P1490 (M) Low Speed Fan CTRL Relay Circuit
> An open or shorted condition detected in control circuit of the
> low-speed radiator fan control relay.
>
> I do not believe the large radiator fan is running, jsut after starting
> the engine or after driving 20 miles.
>
> Could this be the cause of engine stall?
>
> L.W. ------ III (ßill) wrote:
> > Take it straight to the Stealership.
> > For your own curiosity, pull the fault codes, by turning the
> > ignition key until the digital odometer displays, repeat three times
> in
> > succession and then back to "On" (On/Off, On/Off, On/Off, On). At the
> > fourth "On" the odometer will be replaced with codes. If no codes are
> > present then "Done" will appear:
> http://www.wjjeeps.com/faultcodes.htm
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > uniskae wrote:
> > >
> > > I was in stop-and-go traffic and the Jeep engine simply turned off.
> I
> > > shifted the gear into Park and turned the key a few times. The
> > > alternator would rotate, however, the engine would not start. I
> waited
> > > for 15 seconds and turned the key and this time the engine started.
> > > Otherwise, the Jeep runs great. Any insights? Should I take the
> Jeep to
> > > the dealer? The Jeep has about 8000 miles on it. Thank you in
> advance.
I would be getting that into the dealer fast before you kill the
engine. Overheating or running hot will fast cook the valve seals and
turn the engine into a smoker, let along kill head gaskets, etc....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
uniskae wrote:
>
> Thank you for showing me how to get fault codes L.W. ------ III. I got
> two fault codes:
>
> P1489 (M) High Speed Fan CTRL Relay Circuit
> An open or shorted condition detected in the control circuit of the
> high-speed radiator fan control relay.
>
> P1490 (M) Low Speed Fan CTRL Relay Circuit
> An open or shorted condition detected in control circuit of the
> low-speed radiator fan control relay.
>
> I do not believe the large radiator fan is running, jsut after starting
> the engine or after driving 20 miles.
>
> Could this be the cause of engine stall?
>
> L.W. ------ III (ßill) wrote:
> > Take it straight to the Stealership.
> > For your own curiosity, pull the fault codes, by turning the
> > ignition key until the digital odometer displays, repeat three times
> in
> > succession and then back to "On" (On/Off, On/Off, On/Off, On). At the
> > fourth "On" the odometer will be replaced with codes. If no codes are
> > present then "Done" will appear:
> http://www.wjjeeps.com/faultcodes.htm
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > uniskae wrote:
> > >
> > > I was in stop-and-go traffic and the Jeep engine simply turned off.
> I
> > > shifted the gear into Park and turned the key a few times. The
> > > alternator would rotate, however, the engine would not start. I
> waited
> > > for 15 seconds and turned the key and this time the engine started.
> > > Otherwise, the Jeep runs great. Any insights? Should I take the
> Jeep to
> > > the dealer? The Jeep has about 8000 miles on it. Thank you in
> advance.
12-08-2004, 11:28 AM
#42
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Re: 2004 Jeep GC 4X4 stalls on city road
Engines can stall when too hot. This is not a good thing.....
I would be getting that into the dealer fast before you kill the
engine. Overheating or running hot will fast cook the valve seals and
turn the engine into a smoker, let along kill head gaskets, etc....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
uniskae wrote:
>
> Thank you for showing me how to get fault codes L.W. ------ III. I got
> two fault codes:
>
> P1489 (M) High Speed Fan CTRL Relay Circuit
> An open or shorted condition detected in the control circuit of the
> high-speed radiator fan control relay.
>
> P1490 (M) Low Speed Fan CTRL Relay Circuit
> An open or shorted condition detected in control circuit of the
> low-speed radiator fan control relay.
>
> I do not believe the large radiator fan is running, jsut after starting
> the engine or after driving 20 miles.
>
> Could this be the cause of engine stall?
>
> L.W. ------ III (ßill) wrote:
> > Take it straight to the Stealership.
> > For your own curiosity, pull the fault codes, by turning the
> > ignition key until the digital odometer displays, repeat three times
> in
> > succession and then back to "On" (On/Off, On/Off, On/Off, On). At the
> > fourth "On" the odometer will be replaced with codes. If no codes are
> > present then "Done" will appear:
> http://www.wjjeeps.com/faultcodes.htm
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > uniskae wrote:
> > >
> > > I was in stop-and-go traffic and the Jeep engine simply turned off.
> I
> > > shifted the gear into Park and turned the key a few times. The
> > > alternator would rotate, however, the engine would not start. I
> waited
> > > for 15 seconds and turned the key and this time the engine started.
> > > Otherwise, the Jeep runs great. Any insights? Should I take the
> Jeep to
> > > the dealer? The Jeep has about 8000 miles on it. Thank you in
> advance.
I would be getting that into the dealer fast before you kill the
engine. Overheating or running hot will fast cook the valve seals and
turn the engine into a smoker, let along kill head gaskets, etc....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
uniskae wrote:
>
> Thank you for showing me how to get fault codes L.W. ------ III. I got
> two fault codes:
>
> P1489 (M) High Speed Fan CTRL Relay Circuit
> An open or shorted condition detected in the control circuit of the
> high-speed radiator fan control relay.
>
> P1490 (M) Low Speed Fan CTRL Relay Circuit
> An open or shorted condition detected in control circuit of the
> low-speed radiator fan control relay.
>
> I do not believe the large radiator fan is running, jsut after starting
> the engine or after driving 20 miles.
>
> Could this be the cause of engine stall?
>
> L.W. ------ III (ßill) wrote:
> > Take it straight to the Stealership.
> > For your own curiosity, pull the fault codes, by turning the
> > ignition key until the digital odometer displays, repeat three times
> in
> > succession and then back to "On" (On/Off, On/Off, On/Off, On). At the
> > fourth "On" the odometer will be replaced with codes. If no codes are
> > present then "Done" will appear:
> http://www.wjjeeps.com/faultcodes.htm
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > uniskae wrote:
> > >
> > > I was in stop-and-go traffic and the Jeep engine simply turned off.
> I
> > > shifted the gear into Park and turned the key a few times. The
> > > alternator would rotate, however, the engine would not start. I
> waited
> > > for 15 seconds and turned the key and this time the engine started.
> > > Otherwise, the Jeep runs great. Any insights? Should I take the
> Jeep to
> > > the dealer? The Jeep has about 8000 miles on it. Thank you in
> advance.
12-08-2004, 11:28 AM
#43
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Re: 2004 Jeep GC 4X4 stalls on city road
Engines can stall when too hot. This is not a good thing.....
I would be getting that into the dealer fast before you kill the
engine. Overheating or running hot will fast cook the valve seals and
turn the engine into a smoker, let along kill head gaskets, etc....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
uniskae wrote:
>
> Thank you for showing me how to get fault codes L.W. ------ III. I got
> two fault codes:
>
> P1489 (M) High Speed Fan CTRL Relay Circuit
> An open or shorted condition detected in the control circuit of the
> high-speed radiator fan control relay.
>
> P1490 (M) Low Speed Fan CTRL Relay Circuit
> An open or shorted condition detected in control circuit of the
> low-speed radiator fan control relay.
>
> I do not believe the large radiator fan is running, jsut after starting
> the engine or after driving 20 miles.
>
> Could this be the cause of engine stall?
>
> L.W. ------ III (ßill) wrote:
> > Take it straight to the Stealership.
> > For your own curiosity, pull the fault codes, by turning the
> > ignition key until the digital odometer displays, repeat three times
> in
> > succession and then back to "On" (On/Off, On/Off, On/Off, On). At the
> > fourth "On" the odometer will be replaced with codes. If no codes are
> > present then "Done" will appear:
> http://www.wjjeeps.com/faultcodes.htm
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > uniskae wrote:
> > >
> > > I was in stop-and-go traffic and the Jeep engine simply turned off.
> I
> > > shifted the gear into Park and turned the key a few times. The
> > > alternator would rotate, however, the engine would not start. I
> waited
> > > for 15 seconds and turned the key and this time the engine started.
> > > Otherwise, the Jeep runs great. Any insights? Should I take the
> Jeep to
> > > the dealer? The Jeep has about 8000 miles on it. Thank you in
> advance.
I would be getting that into the dealer fast before you kill the
engine. Overheating or running hot will fast cook the valve seals and
turn the engine into a smoker, let along kill head gaskets, etc....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
uniskae wrote:
>
> Thank you for showing me how to get fault codes L.W. ------ III. I got
> two fault codes:
>
> P1489 (M) High Speed Fan CTRL Relay Circuit
> An open or shorted condition detected in the control circuit of the
> high-speed radiator fan control relay.
>
> P1490 (M) Low Speed Fan CTRL Relay Circuit
> An open or shorted condition detected in control circuit of the
> low-speed radiator fan control relay.
>
> I do not believe the large radiator fan is running, jsut after starting
> the engine or after driving 20 miles.
>
> Could this be the cause of engine stall?
>
> L.W. ------ III (ßill) wrote:
> > Take it straight to the Stealership.
> > For your own curiosity, pull the fault codes, by turning the
> > ignition key until the digital odometer displays, repeat three times
> in
> > succession and then back to "On" (On/Off, On/Off, On/Off, On). At the
> > fourth "On" the odometer will be replaced with codes. If no codes are
> > present then "Done" will appear:
> http://www.wjjeeps.com/faultcodes.htm
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > uniskae wrote:
> > >
> > > I was in stop-and-go traffic and the Jeep engine simply turned off.
> I
> > > shifted the gear into Park and turned the key a few times. The
> > > alternator would rotate, however, the engine would not start. I
> waited
> > > for 15 seconds and turned the key and this time the engine started.
> > > Otherwise, the Jeep runs great. Any insights? Should I take the
> Jeep to
> > > the dealer? The Jeep has about 8000 miles on it. Thank you in
> advance.
12-08-2004, 12:01 PM
#44
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Re: 2004 Jeep GC 4X4 stalls on city road
When you turn the igntition to start did it crank the motor?
Yes
Did the starter engage the motor or did it just spin?
The starter motor was revving.
As in, did the engine make it's usual 'chug, chug' cranking noise or
was it a much different and higher pitched spinning noise?
No. No noise, no shuddering.
If it cranked but didn't fire it'd most likely be
the CPS or a fuel problem. But if it just sat there and spun the
starter
motor then it'd be the start solenoid or its relay.
If the starter motor is turning, isn't there a belt or gear which
connects the motor to the engine? Why would a solenoid or relay come in
the picture?
There's a BIG difference between cranking the engine over and just
spinning
the starter. They're nothing like each other and not something easily
confused. So which actually happened?
AFAIK, the starter motor was turning bu the engine was not "chug
chugging".
Since it's new you should of course make the dealer fix it.
I will go to the dealer. It is time consuming, the dealer tries to
weasel out of what they can, hence I want to go there informed. Thanks
four your insights.
Yes
Did the starter engage the motor or did it just spin?
The starter motor was revving.
As in, did the engine make it's usual 'chug, chug' cranking noise or
was it a much different and higher pitched spinning noise?
No. No noise, no shuddering.
If it cranked but didn't fire it'd most likely be
the CPS or a fuel problem. But if it just sat there and spun the
starter
motor then it'd be the start solenoid or its relay.
If the starter motor is turning, isn't there a belt or gear which
connects the motor to the engine? Why would a solenoid or relay come in
the picture?
There's a BIG difference between cranking the engine over and just
spinning
the starter. They're nothing like each other and not something easily
confused. So which actually happened?
AFAIK, the starter motor was turning bu the engine was not "chug
chugging".
Since it's new you should of course make the dealer fix it.
I will go to the dealer. It is time consuming, the dealer tries to
weasel out of what they can, hence I want to go there informed. Thanks
four your insights.
12-08-2004, 12:01 PM
#45
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 2004 Jeep GC 4X4 stalls on city road
When you turn the igntition to start did it crank the motor?
Yes
Did the starter engage the motor or did it just spin?
The starter motor was revving.
As in, did the engine make it's usual 'chug, chug' cranking noise or
was it a much different and higher pitched spinning noise?
No. No noise, no shuddering.
If it cranked but didn't fire it'd most likely be
the CPS or a fuel problem. But if it just sat there and spun the
starter
motor then it'd be the start solenoid or its relay.
If the starter motor is turning, isn't there a belt or gear which
connects the motor to the engine? Why would a solenoid or relay come in
the picture?
There's a BIG difference between cranking the engine over and just
spinning
the starter. They're nothing like each other and not something easily
confused. So which actually happened?
AFAIK, the starter motor was turning bu the engine was not "chug
chugging".
Since it's new you should of course make the dealer fix it.
I will go to the dealer. It is time consuming, the dealer tries to
weasel out of what they can, hence I want to go there informed. Thanks
four your insights.
Yes
Did the starter engage the motor or did it just spin?
The starter motor was revving.
As in, did the engine make it's usual 'chug, chug' cranking noise or
was it a much different and higher pitched spinning noise?
No. No noise, no shuddering.
If it cranked but didn't fire it'd most likely be
the CPS or a fuel problem. But if it just sat there and spun the
starter
motor then it'd be the start solenoid or its relay.
If the starter motor is turning, isn't there a belt or gear which
connects the motor to the engine? Why would a solenoid or relay come in
the picture?
There's a BIG difference between cranking the engine over and just
spinning
the starter. They're nothing like each other and not something easily
confused. So which actually happened?
AFAIK, the starter motor was turning bu the engine was not "chug
chugging".
Since it's new you should of course make the dealer fix it.
I will go to the dealer. It is time consuming, the dealer tries to
weasel out of what they can, hence I want to go there informed. Thanks
four your insights.
12-08-2004, 12:01 PM
#46
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 2004 Jeep GC 4X4 stalls on city road
When you turn the igntition to start did it crank the motor?
Yes
Did the starter engage the motor or did it just spin?
The starter motor was revving.
As in, did the engine make it's usual 'chug, chug' cranking noise or
was it a much different and higher pitched spinning noise?
No. No noise, no shuddering.
If it cranked but didn't fire it'd most likely be
the CPS or a fuel problem. But if it just sat there and spun the
starter
motor then it'd be the start solenoid or its relay.
If the starter motor is turning, isn't there a belt or gear which
connects the motor to the engine? Why would a solenoid or relay come in
the picture?
There's a BIG difference between cranking the engine over and just
spinning
the starter. They're nothing like each other and not something easily
confused. So which actually happened?
AFAIK, the starter motor was turning bu the engine was not "chug
chugging".
Since it's new you should of course make the dealer fix it.
I will go to the dealer. It is time consuming, the dealer tries to
weasel out of what they can, hence I want to go there informed. Thanks
four your insights.
Yes
Did the starter engage the motor or did it just spin?
The starter motor was revving.
As in, did the engine make it's usual 'chug, chug' cranking noise or
was it a much different and higher pitched spinning noise?
No. No noise, no shuddering.
If it cranked but didn't fire it'd most likely be
the CPS or a fuel problem. But if it just sat there and spun the
starter
motor then it'd be the start solenoid or its relay.
If the starter motor is turning, isn't there a belt or gear which
connects the motor to the engine? Why would a solenoid or relay come in
the picture?
There's a BIG difference between cranking the engine over and just
spinning
the starter. They're nothing like each other and not something easily
confused. So which actually happened?
AFAIK, the starter motor was turning bu the engine was not "chug
chugging".
Since it's new you should of course make the dealer fix it.
I will go to the dealer. It is time consuming, the dealer tries to
weasel out of what they can, hence I want to go there informed. Thanks
four your insights.
12-08-2004, 12:33 PM
#50
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Re: 2004 Jeep GC 4X4 stalls on city road
You would think so, but if you have no working fans, that gauge 'has' to
swing a lot more than normal if it is a working gauge.
At speed the gauge could read normal, but when in traffic, it would have
to go up.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
uniskae wrote:
>
> If the engine is running hot, wouldn't the dashboard gauge show that?
> The gauge is showing normal temperature.
swing a lot more than normal if it is a working gauge.
At speed the gauge could read normal, but when in traffic, it would have
to go up.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
uniskae wrote:
>
> If the engine is running hot, wouldn't the dashboard gauge show that?
> The gauge is showing normal temperature.