Re: 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4 liter automatic
 

Do you guys have a "small claims court" ? You pay a fixed cost of 100 quid
to file and can claim up to £500 ; no jury or lawyers and the judge decides
everything.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:IYGve.21955$mC.20482@okepread07...
> Matt Macchiarolo did pass the time by typing:
> > Another good idea which will never see the light of day in the US due to
the
> > trial lawyer lobby in Washington.
>
> They do that up in Canada. As for anything there is an up side and a down
> side. The real fault lies with the juries that award the plaintiff in
these
> frivolous lawsuits. I sat on one of these and simply refused to find
against
> the defendant. The plaintiff was either dumber than a sack of rocks or
dead
> set to make a living out of being an idiot.
>
> > "Dave Milne" wrote ...
> >> Hopefully we will never get quite as litigious as you , as here you
have
> >> to
> >> pay the other party's costs if you lose.
>
>

Re: 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4 liter automatic
 

Dave Milne did pass the time by typing:
> Do you guys have a "small claims court" ? You pay a fixed cost of 100 quid
> to file and can claim up to £500 ; no jury or lawyers and the judge decides
> everything.

Yes, we have small claims courts. Claims up to $6,000, don't know
what the cost is but I think it's about $50 or so. Each state has
a slightly different regulations.

This is for Oklahoma.
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/consu.../small_ok.html


--
DougW

Re: 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4 liter automatic
 

Dave Milne did pass the time by typing:
> Do you guys have a "small claims court" ? You pay a fixed cost of 100 quid
> to file and can claim up to £500 ; no jury or lawyers and the judge decides
> everything.

Yes, we have small claims courts. Claims up to $6,000, don't know
what the cost is but I think it's about $50 or so. Each state has
a slightly different regulations.

This is for Oklahoma.
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/consu.../small_ok.html


--
DougW

Re: 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4 liter automatic
 

Dave Milne did pass the time by typing:
> Do you guys have a "small claims court" ? You pay a fixed cost of 100 quid
> to file and can claim up to £500 ; no jury or lawyers and the judge decides
> everything.

Yes, we have small claims courts. Claims up to $6,000, don't know
what the cost is but I think it's about $50 or so. Each state has
a slightly different regulations.

This is for Oklahoma.
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/consu.../small_ok.html


--
DougW

Re: 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4 liter automatic
 

Dave Milne did pass the time by typing:
> Do you guys have a "small claims court" ? You pay a fixed cost of 100 quid
> to file and can claim up to £500 ; no jury or lawyers and the judge decides
> everything.

Yes, we have small claims courts. Claims up to $6,000, don't know
what the cost is but I think it's about $50 or so. Each state has
a slightly different regulations.

This is for Oklahoma.
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/consu.../small_ok.html


--
DougW

Re: 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4 liter automatic
 

I should have listened to tim, he was correct. I went to the local
junkyard....err auto salvage and recycling center... and they had no clue as
to what I was referring to but decided the only way I could get it was to
sell me the entire automatic transmission / transfer case mechanism as a
unit...... except they already managed to get some SAP to do just that and
they didn't have a whole unit to sell me.

There is a "pick & pay" junkyard on the other side of the river so I think I
may go over there and tell them I want headlights or something then come
back with just the parts I need. (Sorry, you did not have what I needed
mate but I will take these while I am here")

I guess I can understand their side, why sell me a part for $5 today if some
poor SAP *might* give them $100 three years from now. Of course they may
well have lost a repeat customer but I assume they don't care about that.


"tim bur" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
news:42BF37A3.500D71EB@cac.net...
> test it all you want because the parts are only availble with the shifter
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
>
>> Okay guys I need some assistance,
>>
>> I have no illumination in the automatic transmission / Transfer case at
>> night.
>>
>> I original assumed that the bulbs had burned out but when I removed the
>> console I found not bulbs but an electro-lumiscent panel.
>>
>> I was unable to borrow a voltmeter but I was able to get a 12v test
>> light.
>> There is power going into a "black box" that is between the wiring
>> harness
>> and the electro-lumiscent panel. The output side of the "black box" did
>> not
>> illuminate the tester but I do not know what voltage would be on the
>> output
>> side.
>>
>> Is there a way to test this "black box" or the electro-lumiscent panel?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> -billy
>

Re: 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4 liter automatic
 

I should have listened to tim, he was correct. I went to the local
junkyard....err auto salvage and recycling center... and they had no clue as
to what I was referring to but decided the only way I could get it was to
sell me the entire automatic transmission / transfer case mechanism as a
unit...... except they already managed to get some SAP to do just that and
they didn't have a whole unit to sell me.

There is a "pick & pay" junkyard on the other side of the river so I think I
may go over there and tell them I want headlights or something then come
back with just the parts I need. (Sorry, you did not have what I needed
mate but I will take these while I am here")

I guess I can understand their side, why sell me a part for $5 today if some
poor SAP *might* give them $100 three years from now. Of course they may
well have lost a repeat customer but I assume they don't care about that.


"tim bur" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
news:42BF37A3.500D71EB@cac.net...
> test it all you want because the parts are only availble with the shifter
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
>
>> Okay guys I need some assistance,
>>
>> I have no illumination in the automatic transmission / Transfer case at
>> night.
>>
>> I original assumed that the bulbs had burned out but when I removed the
>> console I found not bulbs but an electro-lumiscent panel.
>>
>> I was unable to borrow a voltmeter but I was able to get a 12v test
>> light.
>> There is power going into a "black box" that is between the wiring
>> harness
>> and the electro-lumiscent panel. The output side of the "black box" did
>> not
>> illuminate the tester but I do not know what voltage would be on the
>> output
>> side.
>>
>> Is there a way to test this "black box" or the electro-lumiscent panel?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> -billy
>

Re: 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4 liter automatic
 

I should have listened to tim, he was correct. I went to the local
junkyard....err auto salvage and recycling center... and they had no clue as
to what I was referring to but decided the only way I could get it was to
sell me the entire automatic transmission / transfer case mechanism as a
unit...... except they already managed to get some SAP to do just that and
they didn't have a whole unit to sell me.

There is a "pick & pay" junkyard on the other side of the river so I think I
may go over there and tell them I want headlights or something then come
back with just the parts I need. (Sorry, you did not have what I needed
mate but I will take these while I am here")

I guess I can understand their side, why sell me a part for $5 today if some
poor SAP *might* give them $100 three years from now. Of course they may
well have lost a repeat customer but I assume they don't care about that.


"tim bur" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
news:42BF37A3.500D71EB@cac.net...
> test it all you want because the parts are only availble with the shifter
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
>
>> Okay guys I need some assistance,
>>
>> I have no illumination in the automatic transmission / Transfer case at
>> night.
>>
>> I original assumed that the bulbs had burned out but when I removed the
>> console I found not bulbs but an electro-lumiscent panel.
>>
>> I was unable to borrow a voltmeter but I was able to get a 12v test
>> light.
>> There is power going into a "black box" that is between the wiring
>> harness
>> and the electro-lumiscent panel. The output side of the "black box" did
>> not
>> illuminate the tester but I do not know what voltage would be on the
>> output
>> side.
>>
>> Is there a way to test this "black box" or the electro-lumiscent panel?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> -billy
>

Re: 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4 liter automatic
 

I should have listened to tim, he was correct. I went to the local
junkyard....err auto salvage and recycling center... and they had no clue as
to what I was referring to but decided the only way I could get it was to
sell me the entire automatic transmission / transfer case mechanism as a
unit...... except they already managed to get some SAP to do just that and
they didn't have a whole unit to sell me.

There is a "pick & pay" junkyard on the other side of the river so I think I
may go over there and tell them I want headlights or something then come
back with just the parts I need. (Sorry, you did not have what I needed
mate but I will take these while I am here")

I guess I can understand their side, why sell me a part for $5 today if some
poor SAP *might* give them $100 three years from now. Of course they may
well have lost a repeat customer but I assume they don't care about that.


"tim bur" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
news:42BF37A3.500D71EB@cac.net...
> test it all you want because the parts are only availble with the shifter
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
>
>> Okay guys I need some assistance,
>>
>> I have no illumination in the automatic transmission / Transfer case at
>> night.
>>
>> I original assumed that the bulbs had burned out but when I removed the
>> console I found not bulbs but an electro-lumiscent panel.
>>
>> I was unable to borrow a voltmeter but I was able to get a 12v test
>> light.
>> There is power going into a "black box" that is between the wiring
>> harness
>> and the electro-lumiscent panel. The output side of the "black box" did
>> not
>> illuminate the tester but I do not know what voltage would be on the
>> output
>> side.
>>
>> Is there a way to test this "black box" or the electro-lumiscent panel?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> -billy
>