2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4 liter automatic
 

Okay guys I need some assistance,

I have no illumination in the automatic transmission / Transfer case at
night.

I original assumed that the bulbs had burned out but when I removed the
console I found not bulbs but an electro-lumiscent panel.

I was unable to borrow a voltmeter but I was able to get a 12v test light.
There is power going into a "black box" that is between the wiring harness
and the electro-lumiscent panel. The output side of the "black box" did not
illuminate the tester but I do not know what voltage would be on the output
side.

Is there a way to test this "black box" or the electro-lumiscent panel?

Thanks,
-billy

Re: 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4 liter automatic
 

There's nothing listed: http://www.wjjeeps.com/lamps/lamps.htm
Maybe you're thinking of Japanese cars where their buyers are to stupid
to figure out where park is.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Billy Ray wrote:
>
> Okay guys I need some assistance,
>
> I have no illumination in the automatic transmission / Transfer case at
> night.
>
> I original assumed that the bulbs had burned out but when I removed the
> console I found not bulbs but an electro-lumiscent panel.
>
> I was unable to borrow a voltmeter but I was able to get a 12v test light.
> There is power going into a "black box" that is between the wiring harness
> and the electro-lumiscent panel. The output side of the "black box" did not
> illuminate the tester but I do not know what voltage would be on the output
> side.
>
> Is there a way to test this "black box" or the electro-lumiscent panel?
>
> Thanks,
> -billy

Re: 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4 liter automatic
 

There's nothing listed: http://www.wjjeeps.com/lamps/lamps.htm
Maybe you're thinking of Japanese cars where their buyers are to stupid
to figure out where park is.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Billy Ray wrote:
>
> Okay guys I need some assistance,
>
> I have no illumination in the automatic transmission / Transfer case at
> night.
>
> I original assumed that the bulbs had burned out but when I removed the
> console I found not bulbs but an electro-lumiscent panel.
>
> I was unable to borrow a voltmeter but I was able to get a 12v test light.
> There is power going into a "black box" that is between the wiring harness
> and the electro-lumiscent panel. The output side of the "black box" did not
> illuminate the tester but I do not know what voltage would be on the output
> side.
>
> Is there a way to test this "black box" or the electro-lumiscent panel?
>
> Thanks,
> -billy

Re: 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4 liter automatic
 

There's nothing listed: http://www.wjjeeps.com/lamps/lamps.htm
Maybe you're thinking of Japanese cars where their buyers are to stupid
to figure out where park is.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Billy Ray wrote:
>
> Okay guys I need some assistance,
>
> I have no illumination in the automatic transmission / Transfer case at
> night.
>
> I original assumed that the bulbs had burned out but when I removed the
> console I found not bulbs but an electro-lumiscent panel.
>
> I was unable to borrow a voltmeter but I was able to get a 12v test light.
> There is power going into a "black box" that is between the wiring harness
> and the electro-lumiscent panel. The output side of the "black box" did not
> illuminate the tester but I do not know what voltage would be on the output
> side.
>
> Is there a way to test this "black box" or the electro-lumiscent panel?
>
> Thanks,
> -billy

Re: 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4 liter automatic
 

There's nothing listed: http://www.wjjeeps.com/lamps/lamps.htm
Maybe you're thinking of Japanese cars where their buyers are to stupid
to figure out where park is.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Billy Ray wrote:
>
> Okay guys I need some assistance,
>
> I have no illumination in the automatic transmission / Transfer case at
> night.
>
> I original assumed that the bulbs had burned out but when I removed the
> console I found not bulbs but an electro-lumiscent panel.
>
> I was unable to borrow a voltmeter but I was able to get a 12v test light.
> There is power going into a "black box" that is between the wiring harness
> and the electro-lumiscent panel. The output side of the "black box" did not
> illuminate the tester but I do not know what voltage would be on the output
> side.
>
> Is there a way to test this "black box" or the electro-lumiscent panel?
>
> Thanks,
> -billy

Re: 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4 liter automatic
 

Now Bill, I am sure there are drivers of American cars that are too stupid
to figure out how to put their vehicle in park. I might even be one of
them.

Any ideas on how to test the "black box" or the lumiscent panel?


"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:42BF1E78.9E3F0BD9@cox.net...
> There's nothing listed: http://www.wjjeeps.com/lamps/lamps.htm
> Maybe you're thinking of Japanese cars where their buyers are to stupid
> to figure out where park is.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
>>
>> Okay guys I need some assistance,
>>
>> I have no illumination in the automatic transmission / Transfer case at
>> night.
>>
>> I original assumed that the bulbs had burned out but when I removed the
>> console I found not bulbs but an electro-lumiscent panel.
>>
>> I was unable to borrow a voltmeter but I was able to get a 12v test
>> light.
>> There is power going into a "black box" that is between the wiring
>> harness
>> and the electro-lumiscent panel. The output side of the "black box" did
>> not
>> illuminate the tester but I do not know what voltage would be on the
>> output
>> side.
>>
>> Is there a way to test this "black box" or the electro-lumiscent panel?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> -billy

Re: 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4 liter automatic
 

Now Bill, I am sure there are drivers of American cars that are too stupid
to figure out how to put their vehicle in park. I might even be one of
them.

Any ideas on how to test the "black box" or the lumiscent panel?


"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:42BF1E78.9E3F0BD9@cox.net...
> There's nothing listed: http://www.wjjeeps.com/lamps/lamps.htm
> Maybe you're thinking of Japanese cars where their buyers are to stupid
> to figure out where park is.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
>>
>> Okay guys I need some assistance,
>>
>> I have no illumination in the automatic transmission / Transfer case at
>> night.
>>
>> I original assumed that the bulbs had burned out but when I removed the
>> console I found not bulbs but an electro-lumiscent panel.
>>
>> I was unable to borrow a voltmeter but I was able to get a 12v test
>> light.
>> There is power going into a "black box" that is between the wiring
>> harness
>> and the electro-lumiscent panel. The output side of the "black box" did
>> not
>> illuminate the tester but I do not know what voltage would be on the
>> output
>> side.
>>
>> Is there a way to test this "black box" or the electro-lumiscent panel?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> -billy

Re: 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4 liter automatic
 

Now Bill, I am sure there are drivers of American cars that are too stupid
to figure out how to put their vehicle in park. I might even be one of
them.

Any ideas on how to test the "black box" or the lumiscent panel?


"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:42BF1E78.9E3F0BD9@cox.net...
> There's nothing listed: http://www.wjjeeps.com/lamps/lamps.htm
> Maybe you're thinking of Japanese cars where their buyers are to stupid
> to figure out where park is.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
>>
>> Okay guys I need some assistance,
>>
>> I have no illumination in the automatic transmission / Transfer case at
>> night.
>>
>> I original assumed that the bulbs had burned out but when I removed the
>> console I found not bulbs but an electro-lumiscent panel.
>>
>> I was unable to borrow a voltmeter but I was able to get a 12v test
>> light.
>> There is power going into a "black box" that is between the wiring
>> harness
>> and the electro-lumiscent panel. The output side of the "black box" did
>> not
>> illuminate the tester but I do not know what voltage would be on the
>> output
>> side.
>>
>> Is there a way to test this "black box" or the electro-lumiscent panel?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> -billy

Re: 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4 liter automatic
 

Now Bill, I am sure there are drivers of American cars that are too stupid
to figure out how to put their vehicle in park. I might even be one of
them.

Any ideas on how to test the "black box" or the lumiscent panel?


"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:42BF1E78.9E3F0BD9@cox.net...
> There's nothing listed: http://www.wjjeeps.com/lamps/lamps.htm
> Maybe you're thinking of Japanese cars where their buyers are to stupid
> to figure out where park is.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
>>
>> Okay guys I need some assistance,
>>
>> I have no illumination in the automatic transmission / Transfer case at
>> night.
>>
>> I original assumed that the bulbs had burned out but when I removed the
>> console I found not bulbs but an electro-lumiscent panel.
>>
>> I was unable to borrow a voltmeter but I was able to get a 12v test
>> light.
>> There is power going into a "black box" that is between the wiring
>> harness
>> and the electro-lumiscent panel. The output side of the "black box" did
>> not
>> illuminate the tester but I do not know what voltage would be on the
>> output
>> side.
>>
>> Is there a way to test this "black box" or the electro-lumiscent panel?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> -billy

Re: 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4 liter automatic
 

For sure, that's why the only vehicles over here with clutch interlocks are
US built :-)

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"Billy Ray" <jpbSPAM357@junoSPAM.com> wrote in message
news:9b713$42bf236e$d844e77c$14114@FUSE.NET...
> Now Bill, I am sure there are drivers of American cars that are too
stupid
> to figure out how to put their vehicle in park.

Re: 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4 liter automatic
 

For sure, that's why the only vehicles over here with clutch interlocks are
US built :-)

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"Billy Ray" <jpbSPAM357@junoSPAM.com> wrote in message
news:9b713$42bf236e$d844e77c$14114@FUSE.NET...
> Now Bill, I am sure there are drivers of American cars that are too
stupid
> to figure out how to put their vehicle in park.

Re: 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4 liter automatic
 

For sure, that's why the only vehicles over here with clutch interlocks are
US built :-)

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"Billy Ray" <jpbSPAM357@junoSPAM.com> wrote in message
news:9b713$42bf236e$d844e77c$14114@FUSE.NET...
> Now Bill, I am sure there are drivers of American cars that are too
stupid
> to figure out how to put their vehicle in park.

Re: 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4 liter automatic
 

For sure, that's why the only vehicles over here with clutch interlocks are
US built :-)

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"Billy Ray" <jpbSPAM357@junoSPAM.com> wrote in message
news:9b713$42bf236e$d844e77c$14114@FUSE.NET...
> Now Bill, I am sure there are drivers of American cars that are too
stupid
> to figure out how to put their vehicle in park.

Re: 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4 liter automatic
 

Your turn is coming.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Dave Milne wrote:
>
> For sure, that's why the only vehicles over here with clutch interlocks are
> US built :-)
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

Re: 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4 liter automatic
 

Your turn is coming.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Dave Milne wrote:
>
> For sure, that's why the only vehicles over here with clutch interlocks are
> US built :-)
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

Re: 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4 liter automatic
 

Your turn is coming.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Dave Milne wrote:
>
> For sure, that's why the only vehicles over here with clutch interlocks are
> US built :-)
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

Re: 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4 liter automatic
 

Your turn is coming.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Dave Milne wrote:
>
> For sure, that's why the only vehicles over here with clutch interlocks are
> US built :-)
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

Re: 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4 liter automatic
 

In terms of us becoming more litigious ? Can't disagree with you sadly.
Or did you mean me forgetting to depress the clutch ? Nah, it took me 6
months to realise the interlock was there as I always depress it. Only found
out when my Dad complained it wouldn't start.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:42BF2B9C.2EC94D0A@cox.net...
> Your turn is coming.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > For sure, that's why the only vehicles over here with clutch interlocks
are
> > US built :-)
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

Re: 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4 liter automatic
 

In terms of us becoming more litigious ? Can't disagree with you sadly.
Or did you mean me forgetting to depress the clutch ? Nah, it took me 6
months to realise the interlock was there as I always depress it. Only found
out when my Dad complained it wouldn't start.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:42BF2B9C.2EC94D0A@cox.net...
> Your turn is coming.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > For sure, that's why the only vehicles over here with clutch interlocks
are
> > US built :-)
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

Re: 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4 liter automatic
 

In terms of us becoming more litigious ? Can't disagree with you sadly.
Or did you mean me forgetting to depress the clutch ? Nah, it took me 6
months to realise the interlock was there as I always depress it. Only found
out when my Dad complained it wouldn't start.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:42BF2B9C.2EC94D0A@cox.net...
> Your turn is coming.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > For sure, that's why the only vehicles over here with clutch interlocks
are
> > US built :-)
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

Re: 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4 liter automatic
 

In terms of us becoming more litigious ? Can't disagree with you sadly.
Or did you mean me forgetting to depress the clutch ? Nah, it took me 6
months to realise the interlock was there as I always depress it. Only found
out when my Dad complained it wouldn't start.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:42BF2B9C.2EC94D0A@cox.net...
> Your turn is coming.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > For sure, that's why the only vehicles over here with clutch interlocks
are
> > US built :-)
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

Re: 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4 liter automatic
 

litigiously. http://www.----------.com/blame/
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Dave Milne wrote:
>
> In terms of us becoming more litigious ? Can't disagree with you sadly.
> Or did you mean me forgetting to depress the clutch ? Nah, it took me 6
> months to realise the interlock was there as I always depress it. Only found
> out when my Dad complained it wouldn't start.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

Re: 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4 liter automatic
 

litigiously. http://www.----------.com/blame/
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Dave Milne wrote:
>
> In terms of us becoming more litigious ? Can't disagree with you sadly.
> Or did you mean me forgetting to depress the clutch ? Nah, it took me 6
> months to realise the interlock was there as I always depress it. Only found
> out when my Dad complained it wouldn't start.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

Re: 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4 liter automatic
 

litigiously. http://www.----------.com/blame/
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Dave Milne wrote:
>
> In terms of us becoming more litigious ? Can't disagree with you sadly.
> Or did you mean me forgetting to depress the clutch ? Nah, it took me 6
> months to realise the interlock was there as I always depress it. Only found
> out when my Dad complained it wouldn't start.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

Re: 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4 liter automatic
 

litigiously. http://www.----------.com/blame/
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Dave Milne wrote:
>
> In terms of us becoming more litigious ? Can't disagree with you sadly.
> Or did you mean me forgetting to depress the clutch ? Nah, it took me 6
> months to realise the interlock was there as I always depress it. Only found
> out when my Dad complained it wouldn't start.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

Re: 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4 liter automatic
 

Billy Ray did pass the time by typing:
> Okay guys I need some assistance,
>
> I have no illumination in the automatic transmission / Transfer case at
> night.
>
> I original assumed that the bulbs had burned out but when I removed the
> console I found not bulbs but an electro-lumiscent panel.
>
> I was unable to borrow a voltmeter but I was able to get a 12v test light.
> There is power going into a "black box" that is between the wiring harness
> and the electro-lumiscent panel. The output side of the "black box" did not
> illuminate the tester but I do not know what voltage would be on the output
> side.

It's 60-120 volts at about 2-5kHz.

> Is there a way to test this "black box" or the electro-lumiscent panel?

Sure, but you need test equipment. Your basic testlamp isn't going to cut it.

Here's some reading
http://www.graphicsolutionsinc.com/elfaq.htm


--
DougW

Re: 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4 liter automatic
 

Billy Ray did pass the time by typing:
> Okay guys I need some assistance,
>
> I have no illumination in the automatic transmission / Transfer case at
> night.
>
> I original assumed that the bulbs had burned out but when I removed the
> console I found not bulbs but an electro-lumiscent panel.
>
> I was unable to borrow a voltmeter but I was able to get a 12v test light.
> There is power going into a "black box" that is between the wiring harness
> and the electro-lumiscent panel. The output side of the "black box" did not
> illuminate the tester but I do not know what voltage would be on the output
> side.

It's 60-120 volts at about 2-5kHz.

> Is there a way to test this "black box" or the electro-lumiscent panel?

Sure, but you need test equipment. Your basic testlamp isn't going to cut it.

Here's some reading
http://www.graphicsolutionsinc.com/elfaq.htm


--
DougW

Re: 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4 liter automatic
 

Billy Ray did pass the time by typing:
> Okay guys I need some assistance,
>
> I have no illumination in the automatic transmission / Transfer case at
> night.
>
> I original assumed that the bulbs had burned out but when I removed the
> console I found not bulbs but an electro-lumiscent panel.
>
> I was unable to borrow a voltmeter but I was able to get a 12v test light.
> There is power going into a "black box" that is between the wiring harness
> and the electro-lumiscent panel. The output side of the "black box" did not
> illuminate the tester but I do not know what voltage would be on the output
> side.

It's 60-120 volts at about 2-5kHz.

> Is there a way to test this "black box" or the electro-lumiscent panel?

Sure, but you need test equipment. Your basic testlamp isn't going to cut it.

Here's some reading
http://www.graphicsolutionsinc.com/elfaq.htm


--
DougW

Re: 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4 liter automatic
 

Billy Ray did pass the time by typing:
> Okay guys I need some assistance,
>
> I have no illumination in the automatic transmission / Transfer case at
> night.
>
> I original assumed that the bulbs had burned out but when I removed the
> console I found not bulbs but an electro-lumiscent panel.
>
> I was unable to borrow a voltmeter but I was able to get a 12v test light.
> There is power going into a "black box" that is between the wiring harness
> and the electro-lumiscent panel. The output side of the "black box" did not
> illuminate the tester but I do not know what voltage would be on the output
> side.

It's 60-120 volts at about 2-5kHz.

> Is there a way to test this "black box" or the electro-lumiscent panel?

Sure, but you need test equipment. Your basic testlamp isn't going to cut it.

Here's some reading
http://www.graphicsolutionsinc.com/elfaq.htm


--
DougW

Re: 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4 liter automatic
 

Hopefully we will never get quite as litigious as you , as here you have to
pay the other party's costs if you lose.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:42BF30CC.D1F9F79E@cox.net...
> litigiously. http://www.----------.com/blame/
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > In terms of us becoming more litigious ? Can't disagree with you sadly.
> > Or did you mean me forgetting to depress the clutch ? Nah, it took me 6
> > months to realise the interlock was there as I always depress it. Only
found
> > out when my Dad complained it wouldn't start.
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

Re: 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4 liter automatic
 

Hopefully we will never get quite as litigious as you , as here you have to
pay the other party's costs if you lose.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:42BF30CC.D1F9F79E@cox.net...
> litigiously. http://www.----------.com/blame/
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > In terms of us becoming more litigious ? Can't disagree with you sadly.
> > Or did you mean me forgetting to depress the clutch ? Nah, it took me 6
> > months to realise the interlock was there as I always depress it. Only
found
> > out when my Dad complained it wouldn't start.
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

Re: 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4 liter automatic
 

Hopefully we will never get quite as litigious as you , as here you have to
pay the other party's costs if you lose.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:42BF30CC.D1F9F79E@cox.net...
> litigiously. http://www.----------.com/blame/
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > In terms of us becoming more litigious ? Can't disagree with you sadly.
> > Or did you mean me forgetting to depress the clutch ? Nah, it took me 6
> > months to realise the interlock was there as I always depress it. Only
found
> > out when my Dad complained it wouldn't start.
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

Re: 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4 liter automatic
 

Hopefully we will never get quite as litigious as you , as here you have to
pay the other party's costs if you lose.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:42BF30CC.D1F9F79E@cox.net...
> litigiously. http://www.----------.com/blame/
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > In terms of us becoming more litigious ? Can't disagree with you sadly.
> > Or did you mean me forgetting to depress the clutch ? Nah, it took me 6
> > months to realise the interlock was there as I always depress it. Only
found
> > out when my Dad complained it wouldn't start.
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

Re: 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4 liter automatic
 

test it all you want because the parts are only availble with the shifter

Billy Ray wrote:

> Okay guys I need some assistance,
>
> I have no illumination in the automatic transmission / Transfer case at
> night.
>
> I original assumed that the bulbs had burned out but when I removed the
> console I found not bulbs but an electro-lumiscent panel.
>
> I was unable to borrow a voltmeter but I was able to get a 12v test light.
> There is power going into a "black box" that is between the wiring harness
> and the electro-lumiscent panel. The output side of the "black box" did not
> illuminate the tester but I do not know what voltage would be on the output
> side.
>
> Is there a way to test this "black box" or the electro-lumiscent panel?
>
> Thanks,
> -billy

Re: 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4 liter automatic
 

test it all you want because the parts are only availble with the shifter

Billy Ray wrote:

> Okay guys I need some assistance,
>
> I have no illumination in the automatic transmission / Transfer case at
> night.
>
> I original assumed that the bulbs had burned out but when I removed the
> console I found not bulbs but an electro-lumiscent panel.
>
> I was unable to borrow a voltmeter but I was able to get a 12v test light.
> There is power going into a "black box" that is between the wiring harness
> and the electro-lumiscent panel. The output side of the "black box" did not
> illuminate the tester but I do not know what voltage would be on the output
> side.
>
> Is there a way to test this "black box" or the electro-lumiscent panel?
>
> Thanks,
> -billy

Re: 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4 liter automatic
 

test it all you want because the parts are only availble with the shifter

Billy Ray wrote:

> Okay guys I need some assistance,
>
> I have no illumination in the automatic transmission / Transfer case at
> night.
>
> I original assumed that the bulbs had burned out but when I removed the
> console I found not bulbs but an electro-lumiscent panel.
>
> I was unable to borrow a voltmeter but I was able to get a 12v test light.
> There is power going into a "black box" that is between the wiring harness
> and the electro-lumiscent panel. The output side of the "black box" did not
> illuminate the tester but I do not know what voltage would be on the output
> side.
>
> Is there a way to test this "black box" or the electro-lumiscent panel?
>
> Thanks,
> -billy

Re: 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4 liter automatic
 

test it all you want because the parts are only availble with the shifter

Billy Ray wrote:

> Okay guys I need some assistance,
>
> I have no illumination in the automatic transmission / Transfer case at
> night.
>
> I original assumed that the bulbs had burned out but when I removed the
> console I found not bulbs but an electro-lumiscent panel.
>
> I was unable to borrow a voltmeter but I was able to get a 12v test light.
> There is power going into a "black box" that is between the wiring harness
> and the electro-lumiscent panel. The output side of the "black box" did not
> illuminate the tester but I do not know what voltage would be on the output
> side.
>
> Is there a way to test this "black box" or the electro-lumiscent panel?
>
> Thanks,
> -billy

Re: 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4 liter automatic
 

Another good idea which will never see the light of day in the US due to the
trial lawyer lobby in Washington.

"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:svGve.57159$G8.33686@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> Hopefully we will never get quite as litigious as you , as here you have
> to
> pay the other party's costs if you lose.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:42BF30CC.D1F9F79E@cox.net...
>> litigiously. http://www.----------.com/blame/
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> mailto:--------------------
>> Dave Milne wrote:
>> >
>> > In terms of us becoming more litigious ? Can't disagree with you sadly.
>> > Or did you mean me forgetting to depress the clutch ? Nah, it took me 6
>> > months to realise the interlock was there as I always depress it. Only
> found
>> > out when my Dad complained it wouldn't start.
>> >
>> > Dave Milne, Scotland
>> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
>

Re: 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4 liter automatic
 

Another good idea which will never see the light of day in the US due to the
trial lawyer lobby in Washington.

"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:svGve.57159$G8.33686@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> Hopefully we will never get quite as litigious as you , as here you have
> to
> pay the other party's costs if you lose.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:42BF30CC.D1F9F79E@cox.net...
>> litigiously. http://www.----------.com/blame/
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> mailto:--------------------
>> Dave Milne wrote:
>> >
>> > In terms of us becoming more litigious ? Can't disagree with you sadly.
>> > Or did you mean me forgetting to depress the clutch ? Nah, it took me 6
>> > months to realise the interlock was there as I always depress it. Only
> found
>> > out when my Dad complained it wouldn't start.
>> >
>> > Dave Milne, Scotland
>> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
>

Re: 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4 liter automatic
 

Another good idea which will never see the light of day in the US due to the
trial lawyer lobby in Washington.

"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:svGve.57159$G8.33686@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> Hopefully we will never get quite as litigious as you , as here you have
> to
> pay the other party's costs if you lose.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:42BF30CC.D1F9F79E@cox.net...
>> litigiously. http://www.----------.com/blame/
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> mailto:--------------------
>> Dave Milne wrote:
>> >
>> > In terms of us becoming more litigious ? Can't disagree with you sadly.
>> > Or did you mean me forgetting to depress the clutch ? Nah, it took me 6
>> > months to realise the interlock was there as I always depress it. Only
> found
>> > out when my Dad complained it wouldn't start.
>> >
>> > Dave Milne, Scotland
>> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
>