Re: 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4 liter automatic
 

Another good idea which will never see the light of day in the US due to the
trial lawyer lobby in Washington.

"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
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> Hopefully we will never get quite as litigious as you , as here you have
> to
> pay the other party's costs if you lose.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:42BF30CC.D1F9F79E@cox.net...
>> litigiously. http://www.----------.com/blame/
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> mailto:--------------------
>> Dave Milne wrote:
>> >
>> > In terms of us becoming more litigious ? Can't disagree with you sadly.
>> > Or did you mean me forgetting to depress the clutch ? Nah, it took me 6
>> > months to realise the interlock was there as I always depress it. Only
> found
>> > out when my Dad complained it wouldn't start.
>> >
>> > Dave Milne, Scotland
>> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
>

Re: 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4 liter automatic
 

Matt Macchiarolo did pass the time by typing:
> Another good idea which will never see the light of day in the US due to the
> trial lawyer lobby in Washington.

They do that up in Canada. As for anything there is an up side and a down
side. The real fault lies with the juries that award the plaintiff in these
frivolous lawsuits. I sat on one of these and simply refused to find against
the defendant. The plaintiff was either dumber than a sack of rocks or dead
set to make a living out of being an idiot.

> "Dave Milne" wrote ...
>> Hopefully we will never get quite as litigious as you , as here you have
>> to
>> pay the other party's costs if you lose.

Re: 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4 liter automatic
 

Matt Macchiarolo did pass the time by typing:
> Another good idea which will never see the light of day in the US due to the
> trial lawyer lobby in Washington.

They do that up in Canada. As for anything there is an up side and a down
side. The real fault lies with the juries that award the plaintiff in these
frivolous lawsuits. I sat on one of these and simply refused to find against
the defendant. The plaintiff was either dumber than a sack of rocks or dead
set to make a living out of being an idiot.

> "Dave Milne" wrote ...
>> Hopefully we will never get quite as litigious as you , as here you have
>> to
>> pay the other party's costs if you lose.

Re: 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4 liter automatic
 

Matt Macchiarolo did pass the time by typing:
> Another good idea which will never see the light of day in the US due to the
> trial lawyer lobby in Washington.

They do that up in Canada. As for anything there is an up side and a down
side. The real fault lies with the juries that award the plaintiff in these
frivolous lawsuits. I sat on one of these and simply refused to find against
the defendant. The plaintiff was either dumber than a sack of rocks or dead
set to make a living out of being an idiot.

> "Dave Milne" wrote ...
>> Hopefully we will never get quite as litigious as you , as here you have
>> to
>> pay the other party's costs if you lose.

Re: 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4 liter automatic
 

Matt Macchiarolo did pass the time by typing:
> Another good idea which will never see the light of day in the US due to the
> trial lawyer lobby in Washington.

They do that up in Canada. As for anything there is an up side and a down
side. The real fault lies with the juries that award the plaintiff in these
frivolous lawsuits. I sat on one of these and simply refused to find against
the defendant. The plaintiff was either dumber than a sack of rocks or dead
set to make a living out of being an idiot.

> "Dave Milne" wrote ...
>> Hopefully we will never get quite as litigious as you , as here you have
>> to
>> pay the other party's costs if you lose.

Re: 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4 liter automatic
 

Okay Doug,

If I have power going in and the panel is just about indestructible then the
only thing left is the black box which I am assuming is a transformer. It
is removable but if , as tim asserts, it is not available then I guess it is
time to hit the junkyard.

Do you agree it is, most likely, the transformer?

Billy
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:7jGve.21950$mC.9453@okepread07...
> Billy Ray did pass the time by typing:
>> Okay guys I need some assistance,
>>
>> I have no illumination in the automatic transmission / Transfer case at
>> night.
>>
>> I original assumed that the bulbs had burned out but when I removed the
>> console I found not bulbs but an electro-lumiscent panel.
>>
>> I was unable to borrow a voltmeter but I was able to get a 12v test
>> light.
>> There is power going into a "black box" that is between the wiring
>> harness
>> and the electro-lumiscent panel. The output side of the "black box" did
>> not
>> illuminate the tester but I do not know what voltage would be on the
>> output
>> side.
>
> It's 60-120 volts at about 2-5kHz.
>
>> Is there a way to test this "black box" or the electro-lumiscent panel?
>
> Sure, but you need test equipment. Your basic testlamp isn't going to cut
> it.
>
> Here's some reading
> http://www.graphicsolutionsinc.com/elfaq.htm
>
>
> --
> DougW
>

Re: 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4 liter automatic
 

Okay Doug,

If I have power going in and the panel is just about indestructible then the
only thing left is the black box which I am assuming is a transformer. It
is removable but if , as tim asserts, it is not available then I guess it is
time to hit the junkyard.

Do you agree it is, most likely, the transformer?

Billy
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:7jGve.21950$mC.9453@okepread07...
> Billy Ray did pass the time by typing:
>> Okay guys I need some assistance,
>>
>> I have no illumination in the automatic transmission / Transfer case at
>> night.
>>
>> I original assumed that the bulbs had burned out but when I removed the
>> console I found not bulbs but an electro-lumiscent panel.
>>
>> I was unable to borrow a voltmeter but I was able to get a 12v test
>> light.
>> There is power going into a "black box" that is between the wiring
>> harness
>> and the electro-lumiscent panel. The output side of the "black box" did
>> not
>> illuminate the tester but I do not know what voltage would be on the
>> output
>> side.
>
> It's 60-120 volts at about 2-5kHz.
>
>> Is there a way to test this "black box" or the electro-lumiscent panel?
>
> Sure, but you need test equipment. Your basic testlamp isn't going to cut
> it.
>
> Here's some reading
> http://www.graphicsolutionsinc.com/elfaq.htm
>
>
> --
> DougW
>

Re: 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4 liter automatic
 

Okay Doug,

If I have power going in and the panel is just about indestructible then the
only thing left is the black box which I am assuming is a transformer. It
is removable but if , as tim asserts, it is not available then I guess it is
time to hit the junkyard.

Do you agree it is, most likely, the transformer?

Billy
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:7jGve.21950$mC.9453@okepread07...
> Billy Ray did pass the time by typing:
>> Okay guys I need some assistance,
>>
>> I have no illumination in the automatic transmission / Transfer case at
>> night.
>>
>> I original assumed that the bulbs had burned out but when I removed the
>> console I found not bulbs but an electro-lumiscent panel.
>>
>> I was unable to borrow a voltmeter but I was able to get a 12v test
>> light.
>> There is power going into a "black box" that is between the wiring
>> harness
>> and the electro-lumiscent panel. The output side of the "black box" did
>> not
>> illuminate the tester but I do not know what voltage would be on the
>> output
>> side.
>
> It's 60-120 volts at about 2-5kHz.
>
>> Is there a way to test this "black box" or the electro-lumiscent panel?
>
> Sure, but you need test equipment. Your basic testlamp isn't going to cut
> it.
>
> Here's some reading
> http://www.graphicsolutionsinc.com/elfaq.htm
>
>
> --
> DougW
>

Re: 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4 liter automatic
 

Okay Doug,

If I have power going in and the panel is just about indestructible then the
only thing left is the black box which I am assuming is a transformer. It
is removable but if , as tim asserts, it is not available then I guess it is
time to hit the junkyard.

Do you agree it is, most likely, the transformer?

Billy
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:7jGve.21950$mC.9453@okepread07...
> Billy Ray did pass the time by typing:
>> Okay guys I need some assistance,
>>
>> I have no illumination in the automatic transmission / Transfer case at
>> night.
>>
>> I original assumed that the bulbs had burned out but when I removed the
>> console I found not bulbs but an electro-lumiscent panel.
>>
>> I was unable to borrow a voltmeter but I was able to get a 12v test
>> light.
>> There is power going into a "black box" that is between the wiring
>> harness
>> and the electro-lumiscent panel. The output side of the "black box" did
>> not
>> illuminate the tester but I do not know what voltage would be on the
>> output
>> side.
>
> It's 60-120 volts at about 2-5kHz.
>
>> Is there a way to test this "black box" or the electro-lumiscent panel?
>
> Sure, but you need test equipment. Your basic testlamp isn't going to cut
> it.
>
> Here's some reading
> http://www.graphicsolutionsinc.com/elfaq.htm
>
>
> --
> DougW
>

Re: 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4 liter automatic
 

Billy Ray did pass the time by typing:
> Okay Doug,
>
> If I have power going in and the panel is just about indestructible then the
> only thing left is the black box which I am assuming is a transformer. It
> is removable but if , as tim asserts, it is not available then I guess it is
> time to hit the junkyard.
>
> Do you agree it is, most likely, the transformer?

That would be my first thought but you need a multimeter to measure
if it is putting anything out. It is possible to have broken
contacts or wires. The box doesn't come apart does it?

--
DougW