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Dave Milne 06-26-2005 06:38 PM

Re: 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4 liter automatic
 
In terms of us becoming more litigious ? Can't disagree with you sadly.
Or did you mean me forgetting to depress the clutch ? Nah, it took me 6
months to realise the interlock was there as I always depress it. Only found
out when my Dad complained it wouldn't start.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:42BF2B9C.2EC94D0A@cox.net...
> Your turn is coming.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > For sure, that's why the only vehicles over here with clutch interlocks

are
> > US built :-)
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ




L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 06-26-2005 06:48 PM

Re: 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4 liter automatic
 
litigiously. http://www.----------.com/blame/
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Dave Milne wrote:
>
> In terms of us becoming more litigious ? Can't disagree with you sadly.
> Or did you mean me forgetting to depress the clutch ? Nah, it took me 6
> months to realise the interlock was there as I always depress it. Only found
> out when my Dad complained it wouldn't start.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 06-26-2005 06:48 PM

Re: 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4 liter automatic
 
litigiously. http://www.----------.com/blame/
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Dave Milne wrote:
>
> In terms of us becoming more litigious ? Can't disagree with you sadly.
> Or did you mean me forgetting to depress the clutch ? Nah, it took me 6
> months to realise the interlock was there as I always depress it. Only found
> out when my Dad complained it wouldn't start.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 06-26-2005 06:48 PM

Re: 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4 liter automatic
 
litigiously. http://www.----------.com/blame/
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Dave Milne wrote:
>
> In terms of us becoming more litigious ? Can't disagree with you sadly.
> Or did you mean me forgetting to depress the clutch ? Nah, it took me 6
> months to realise the interlock was there as I always depress it. Only found
> out when my Dad complained it wouldn't start.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 06-26-2005 06:48 PM

Re: 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4 liter automatic
 
litigiously. http://www.----------.com/blame/
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Dave Milne wrote:
>
> In terms of us becoming more litigious ? Can't disagree with you sadly.
> Or did you mean me forgetting to depress the clutch ? Nah, it took me 6
> months to realise the interlock was there as I always depress it. Only found
> out when my Dad complained it wouldn't start.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ


DougW 06-26-2005 06:50 PM

Re: 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4 liter automatic
 
Billy Ray did pass the time by typing:
> Okay guys I need some assistance,
>
> I have no illumination in the automatic transmission / Transfer case at
> night.
>
> I original assumed that the bulbs had burned out but when I removed the
> console I found not bulbs but an electro-lumiscent panel.
>
> I was unable to borrow a voltmeter but I was able to get a 12v test light.
> There is power going into a "black box" that is between the wiring harness
> and the electro-lumiscent panel. The output side of the "black box" did not
> illuminate the tester but I do not know what voltage would be on the output
> side.


It's 60-120 volts at about 2-5kHz.

> Is there a way to test this "black box" or the electro-lumiscent panel?


Sure, but you need test equipment. Your basic testlamp isn't going to cut it.

Here's some reading
http://www.graphicsolutionsinc.com/elfaq.htm


--
DougW



DougW 06-26-2005 06:50 PM

Re: 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4 liter automatic
 
Billy Ray did pass the time by typing:
> Okay guys I need some assistance,
>
> I have no illumination in the automatic transmission / Transfer case at
> night.
>
> I original assumed that the bulbs had burned out but when I removed the
> console I found not bulbs but an electro-lumiscent panel.
>
> I was unable to borrow a voltmeter but I was able to get a 12v test light.
> There is power going into a "black box" that is between the wiring harness
> and the electro-lumiscent panel. The output side of the "black box" did not
> illuminate the tester but I do not know what voltage would be on the output
> side.


It's 60-120 volts at about 2-5kHz.

> Is there a way to test this "black box" or the electro-lumiscent panel?


Sure, but you need test equipment. Your basic testlamp isn't going to cut it.

Here's some reading
http://www.graphicsolutionsinc.com/elfaq.htm


--
DougW



DougW 06-26-2005 06:50 PM

Re: 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4 liter automatic
 
Billy Ray did pass the time by typing:
> Okay guys I need some assistance,
>
> I have no illumination in the automatic transmission / Transfer case at
> night.
>
> I original assumed that the bulbs had burned out but when I removed the
> console I found not bulbs but an electro-lumiscent panel.
>
> I was unable to borrow a voltmeter but I was able to get a 12v test light.
> There is power going into a "black box" that is between the wiring harness
> and the electro-lumiscent panel. The output side of the "black box" did not
> illuminate the tester but I do not know what voltage would be on the output
> side.


It's 60-120 volts at about 2-5kHz.

> Is there a way to test this "black box" or the electro-lumiscent panel?


Sure, but you need test equipment. Your basic testlamp isn't going to cut it.

Here's some reading
http://www.graphicsolutionsinc.com/elfaq.htm


--
DougW



DougW 06-26-2005 06:50 PM

Re: 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4 liter automatic
 
Billy Ray did pass the time by typing:
> Okay guys I need some assistance,
>
> I have no illumination in the automatic transmission / Transfer case at
> night.
>
> I original assumed that the bulbs had burned out but when I removed the
> console I found not bulbs but an electro-lumiscent panel.
>
> I was unable to borrow a voltmeter but I was able to get a 12v test light.
> There is power going into a "black box" that is between the wiring harness
> and the electro-lumiscent panel. The output side of the "black box" did not
> illuminate the tester but I do not know what voltage would be on the output
> side.


It's 60-120 volts at about 2-5kHz.

> Is there a way to test this "black box" or the electro-lumiscent panel?


Sure, but you need test equipment. Your basic testlamp isn't going to cut it.

Here's some reading
http://www.graphicsolutionsinc.com/elfaq.htm


--
DougW



Dave Milne 06-26-2005 07:03 PM

Re: 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4 liter automatic
 
Hopefully we will never get quite as litigious as you , as here you have to
pay the other party's costs if you lose.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:42BF30CC.D1F9F79E@cox.net...
> litigiously. http://www.----------.com/blame/
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > In terms of us becoming more litigious ? Can't disagree with you sadly.
> > Or did you mean me forgetting to depress the clutch ? Nah, it took me 6
> > months to realise the interlock was there as I always depress it. Only

found
> > out when my Dad complained it wouldn't start.
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ





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