2001 TJ Front Differential
#21
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Re: 2001 TJ Front Differential
Hey Jerry, good explanation! Thanks.
I get conflicting information from even the companies that sell limited slip
and lockers. I was trying to think of a good setup for front and back. I
like manual hubs just for mileage, wear and flat towing like I do. I'm one
of those that drives on -road long distances in the Jeep and then want it to
take on aggressive trails off- road. Maybe an ARB in the rear and limited
slip in the front.
Thanks
Andy
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
news:fBCqb.20030$PD2.8063@fed1read05...
> Contrary to what a certain non-TJ owner has told you, you absolutely...
> absolutely... cannot tell a locker or limited slip differential is in the
> front Dana 30 axle when you're in 2wd. Without manual hubs, I first had a
> limited slip differential in my front Dana 30 and it was totally
transparent
> in 2wd, you could not tell it was there. Then, again without manual hubs,
I
> installed a Powertrax locker in my front Dana 30. Again, in 2wd, I could
> not detect its presence. Finally, I installed Warn manual hubs on the
front
> axle about six months ago and I run around with them unlocked. There is no
> difference in how my front locker feels between when the front hubs are
> locked vs. unlocked.
>
> The reason for this is because when you're in 2wd, there is no torque
being
> sent to the front locker and automatic lockers require torque to firmly
lock
> them up. Yes automatic lockers are normally locked... but without torque
to
> hold them FIRMLY locked as would happen in 4wd, they unlock so easily to
go
> around corners etc. when the TJ is in 2wd that they don't bind at all
like
> some people erroneously think they do. With manual hubs or without manual
> hubs.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
> "Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ZUyqb.131454$Fm2.108362@attbi_s04...
> > Hi everyone. I was out West (OTR) delivering auto parts during the wild
> > fires. Terrible.
> >
> > Home again for a few days and thinking about my TJ build up again. What
> was
> > standard for the Front differential in 2001. I have a Dana 44 in the
> rear.
> > Is it the Dana 30?
> >
> > Secondly, TJ's front differentials spin all the time. I'm thinking
this
> > will not work well with a limited slip or automatic locker (On road
> > handling) , so ARB is about the only choice?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Andy
> >
> >
>
>
I get conflicting information from even the companies that sell limited slip
and lockers. I was trying to think of a good setup for front and back. I
like manual hubs just for mileage, wear and flat towing like I do. I'm one
of those that drives on -road long distances in the Jeep and then want it to
take on aggressive trails off- road. Maybe an ARB in the rear and limited
slip in the front.
Thanks
Andy
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
news:fBCqb.20030$PD2.8063@fed1read05...
> Contrary to what a certain non-TJ owner has told you, you absolutely...
> absolutely... cannot tell a locker or limited slip differential is in the
> front Dana 30 axle when you're in 2wd. Without manual hubs, I first had a
> limited slip differential in my front Dana 30 and it was totally
transparent
> in 2wd, you could not tell it was there. Then, again without manual hubs,
I
> installed a Powertrax locker in my front Dana 30. Again, in 2wd, I could
> not detect its presence. Finally, I installed Warn manual hubs on the
front
> axle about six months ago and I run around with them unlocked. There is no
> difference in how my front locker feels between when the front hubs are
> locked vs. unlocked.
>
> The reason for this is because when you're in 2wd, there is no torque
being
> sent to the front locker and automatic lockers require torque to firmly
lock
> them up. Yes automatic lockers are normally locked... but without torque
to
> hold them FIRMLY locked as would happen in 4wd, they unlock so easily to
go
> around corners etc. when the TJ is in 2wd that they don't bind at all
like
> some people erroneously think they do. With manual hubs or without manual
> hubs.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
> "Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ZUyqb.131454$Fm2.108362@attbi_s04...
> > Hi everyone. I was out West (OTR) delivering auto parts during the wild
> > fires. Terrible.
> >
> > Home again for a few days and thinking about my TJ build up again. What
> was
> > standard for the Front differential in 2001. I have a Dana 44 in the
> rear.
> > Is it the Dana 30?
> >
> > Secondly, TJ's front differentials spin all the time. I'm thinking
this
> > will not work well with a limited slip or automatic locker (On road
> > handling) , so ARB is about the only choice?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Andy
> >
> >
>
>
#22
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Re: 2001 TJ Front Differential
Hey Jerry, good explanation! Thanks.
I get conflicting information from even the companies that sell limited slip
and lockers. I was trying to think of a good setup for front and back. I
like manual hubs just for mileage, wear and flat towing like I do. I'm one
of those that drives on -road long distances in the Jeep and then want it to
take on aggressive trails off- road. Maybe an ARB in the rear and limited
slip in the front.
Thanks
Andy
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
news:fBCqb.20030$PD2.8063@fed1read05...
> Contrary to what a certain non-TJ owner has told you, you absolutely...
> absolutely... cannot tell a locker or limited slip differential is in the
> front Dana 30 axle when you're in 2wd. Without manual hubs, I first had a
> limited slip differential in my front Dana 30 and it was totally
transparent
> in 2wd, you could not tell it was there. Then, again without manual hubs,
I
> installed a Powertrax locker in my front Dana 30. Again, in 2wd, I could
> not detect its presence. Finally, I installed Warn manual hubs on the
front
> axle about six months ago and I run around with them unlocked. There is no
> difference in how my front locker feels between when the front hubs are
> locked vs. unlocked.
>
> The reason for this is because when you're in 2wd, there is no torque
being
> sent to the front locker and automatic lockers require torque to firmly
lock
> them up. Yes automatic lockers are normally locked... but without torque
to
> hold them FIRMLY locked as would happen in 4wd, they unlock so easily to
go
> around corners etc. when the TJ is in 2wd that they don't bind at all
like
> some people erroneously think they do. With manual hubs or without manual
> hubs.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
> "Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ZUyqb.131454$Fm2.108362@attbi_s04...
> > Hi everyone. I was out West (OTR) delivering auto parts during the wild
> > fires. Terrible.
> >
> > Home again for a few days and thinking about my TJ build up again. What
> was
> > standard for the Front differential in 2001. I have a Dana 44 in the
> rear.
> > Is it the Dana 30?
> >
> > Secondly, TJ's front differentials spin all the time. I'm thinking
this
> > will not work well with a limited slip or automatic locker (On road
> > handling) , so ARB is about the only choice?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Andy
> >
> >
>
>
I get conflicting information from even the companies that sell limited slip
and lockers. I was trying to think of a good setup for front and back. I
like manual hubs just for mileage, wear and flat towing like I do. I'm one
of those that drives on -road long distances in the Jeep and then want it to
take on aggressive trails off- road. Maybe an ARB in the rear and limited
slip in the front.
Thanks
Andy
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
news:fBCqb.20030$PD2.8063@fed1read05...
> Contrary to what a certain non-TJ owner has told you, you absolutely...
> absolutely... cannot tell a locker or limited slip differential is in the
> front Dana 30 axle when you're in 2wd. Without manual hubs, I first had a
> limited slip differential in my front Dana 30 and it was totally
transparent
> in 2wd, you could not tell it was there. Then, again without manual hubs,
I
> installed a Powertrax locker in my front Dana 30. Again, in 2wd, I could
> not detect its presence. Finally, I installed Warn manual hubs on the
front
> axle about six months ago and I run around with them unlocked. There is no
> difference in how my front locker feels between when the front hubs are
> locked vs. unlocked.
>
> The reason for this is because when you're in 2wd, there is no torque
being
> sent to the front locker and automatic lockers require torque to firmly
lock
> them up. Yes automatic lockers are normally locked... but without torque
to
> hold them FIRMLY locked as would happen in 4wd, they unlock so easily to
go
> around corners etc. when the TJ is in 2wd that they don't bind at all
like
> some people erroneously think they do. With manual hubs or without manual
> hubs.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
> "Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ZUyqb.131454$Fm2.108362@attbi_s04...
> > Hi everyone. I was out West (OTR) delivering auto parts during the wild
> > fires. Terrible.
> >
> > Home again for a few days and thinking about my TJ build up again. What
> was
> > standard for the Front differential in 2001. I have a Dana 44 in the
> rear.
> > Is it the Dana 30?
> >
> > Secondly, TJ's front differentials spin all the time. I'm thinking
this
> > will not work well with a limited slip or automatic locker (On road
> > handling) , so ARB is about the only choice?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Andy
> >
> >
>
>
#23
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Re: 2001 TJ Front Differential
Yep, I understand now. Maybe it's I wanna a Rubicon Jeep syndrome that's
come over me! LOL
"JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> wrote in message
news:ohDqb.7474$4O4.3157@news02.roc.ny...
> Hey Andy,
> Thinking is good, but not this time :-) ARB is not the answer to
> everything, especially for the front. Just take it out of
four-wheel-drive!
> Front locker... gone (any brand), transparent!
>
> --
> JimG
> 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
>
>
> "Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ZUyqb.131454$Fm2.108362@attbi_s04...
> > Hi everyone. I was out West (OTR) delivering auto parts during the wild
> > fires. Terrible.
> >
> > Home again for a few days and thinking about my TJ build up again. What
> was
> > standard for the Front differential in 2001. I have a Dana 44 in the
> rear.
> > Is it the Dana 30?
> >
> > Secondly, TJ's front differentials spin all the time. I'm thinking
this
> > will not work well with a limited slip or automatic locker (On road
> > handling) , so ARB is about the only choice?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Andy
> >
> >
>
>
come over me! LOL
"JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> wrote in message
news:ohDqb.7474$4O4.3157@news02.roc.ny...
> Hey Andy,
> Thinking is good, but not this time :-) ARB is not the answer to
> everything, especially for the front. Just take it out of
four-wheel-drive!
> Front locker... gone (any brand), transparent!
>
> --
> JimG
> 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
>
>
> "Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ZUyqb.131454$Fm2.108362@attbi_s04...
> > Hi everyone. I was out West (OTR) delivering auto parts during the wild
> > fires. Terrible.
> >
> > Home again for a few days and thinking about my TJ build up again. What
> was
> > standard for the Front differential in 2001. I have a Dana 44 in the
> rear.
> > Is it the Dana 30?
> >
> > Secondly, TJ's front differentials spin all the time. I'm thinking
this
> > will not work well with a limited slip or automatic locker (On road
> > handling) , so ARB is about the only choice?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Andy
> >
> >
>
>
#24
Guest
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Re: 2001 TJ Front Differential
Yep, I understand now. Maybe it's I wanna a Rubicon Jeep syndrome that's
come over me! LOL
"JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> wrote in message
news:ohDqb.7474$4O4.3157@news02.roc.ny...
> Hey Andy,
> Thinking is good, but not this time :-) ARB is not the answer to
> everything, especially for the front. Just take it out of
four-wheel-drive!
> Front locker... gone (any brand), transparent!
>
> --
> JimG
> 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
>
>
> "Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ZUyqb.131454$Fm2.108362@attbi_s04...
> > Hi everyone. I was out West (OTR) delivering auto parts during the wild
> > fires. Terrible.
> >
> > Home again for a few days and thinking about my TJ build up again. What
> was
> > standard for the Front differential in 2001. I have a Dana 44 in the
> rear.
> > Is it the Dana 30?
> >
> > Secondly, TJ's front differentials spin all the time. I'm thinking
this
> > will not work well with a limited slip or automatic locker (On road
> > handling) , so ARB is about the only choice?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Andy
> >
> >
>
>
come over me! LOL
"JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> wrote in message
news:ohDqb.7474$4O4.3157@news02.roc.ny...
> Hey Andy,
> Thinking is good, but not this time :-) ARB is not the answer to
> everything, especially for the front. Just take it out of
four-wheel-drive!
> Front locker... gone (any brand), transparent!
>
> --
> JimG
> 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
>
>
> "Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ZUyqb.131454$Fm2.108362@attbi_s04...
> > Hi everyone. I was out West (OTR) delivering auto parts during the wild
> > fires. Terrible.
> >
> > Home again for a few days and thinking about my TJ build up again. What
> was
> > standard for the Front differential in 2001. I have a Dana 44 in the
> rear.
> > Is it the Dana 30?
> >
> > Secondly, TJ's front differentials spin all the time. I'm thinking
this
> > will not work well with a limited slip or automatic locker (On road
> > handling) , so ARB is about the only choice?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Andy
> >
> >
>
>
#25
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 2001 TJ Front Differential
Yep, I understand now. Maybe it's I wanna a Rubicon Jeep syndrome that's
come over me! LOL
"JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> wrote in message
news:ohDqb.7474$4O4.3157@news02.roc.ny...
> Hey Andy,
> Thinking is good, but not this time :-) ARB is not the answer to
> everything, especially for the front. Just take it out of
four-wheel-drive!
> Front locker... gone (any brand), transparent!
>
> --
> JimG
> 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
>
>
> "Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ZUyqb.131454$Fm2.108362@attbi_s04...
> > Hi everyone. I was out West (OTR) delivering auto parts during the wild
> > fires. Terrible.
> >
> > Home again for a few days and thinking about my TJ build up again. What
> was
> > standard for the Front differential in 2001. I have a Dana 44 in the
> rear.
> > Is it the Dana 30?
> >
> > Secondly, TJ's front differentials spin all the time. I'm thinking
this
> > will not work well with a limited slip or automatic locker (On road
> > handling) , so ARB is about the only choice?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Andy
> >
> >
>
>
come over me! LOL
"JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> wrote in message
news:ohDqb.7474$4O4.3157@news02.roc.ny...
> Hey Andy,
> Thinking is good, but not this time :-) ARB is not the answer to
> everything, especially for the front. Just take it out of
four-wheel-drive!
> Front locker... gone (any brand), transparent!
>
> --
> JimG
> 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
>
>
> "Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ZUyqb.131454$Fm2.108362@attbi_s04...
> > Hi everyone. I was out West (OTR) delivering auto parts during the wild
> > fires. Terrible.
> >
> > Home again for a few days and thinking about my TJ build up again. What
> was
> > standard for the Front differential in 2001. I have a Dana 44 in the
> rear.
> > Is it the Dana 30?
> >
> > Secondly, TJ's front differentials spin all the time. I'm thinking
this
> > will not work well with a limited slip or automatic locker (On road
> > handling) , so ARB is about the only choice?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Andy
> >
> >
>
>
#26
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Re: 2001 TJ Front Differential
Andy, I must not have explained the front axle that well... there's no
benefit to installing a front limited slip differential up front over an
automatic locker unless you wheel on off-camber (sloping to the side) icy or
mud-covered trails. For most wheeling, a front-locker has significant
benefits over a front limited slip differential. I've had both in my front
axle and only installed the front LSD for a few years by erroneously
thinking a front-mounted locker would be a bad decision for my TJ. The
front-locker I have up front now may as well not even be there until I shift
into 4wd.
Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
"Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:siDqb.134272$e01.451720@attbi_s02...
> Hey Jerry, good explanation! Thanks.
>
> I get conflicting information from even the companies that sell limited
slip
> and lockers. I was trying to think of a good setup for front and back. I
> like manual hubs just for mileage, wear and flat towing like I do. I'm
one
> of those that drives on -road long distances in the Jeep and then want it
to
> take on aggressive trails off- road. Maybe an ARB in the rear and limited
> slip in the front.
>
> Thanks
>
> Andy
>
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
> news:fBCqb.20030$PD2.8063@fed1read05...
> > Contrary to what a certain non-TJ owner has told you, you absolutely...
> > absolutely... cannot tell a locker or limited slip differential is in
the
> > front Dana 30 axle when you're in 2wd. Without manual hubs, I first had
a
> > limited slip differential in my front Dana 30 and it was totally
> transparent
> > in 2wd, you could not tell it was there. Then, again without manual
hubs,
> I
> > installed a Powertrax locker in my front Dana 30. Again, in 2wd, I
could
> > not detect its presence. Finally, I installed Warn manual hubs on the
> front
> > axle about six months ago and I run around with them unlocked. There is
no
> > difference in how my front locker feels between when the front hubs are
> > locked vs. unlocked.
> >
> > The reason for this is because when you're in 2wd, there is no torque
> being
> > sent to the front locker and automatic lockers require torque to firmly
> lock
> > them up. Yes automatic lockers are normally locked... but without
torque
> to
> > hold them FIRMLY locked as would happen in 4wd, they unlock so easily to
> go
> > around corners etc. when the TJ is in 2wd that they don't bind at all
> like
> > some people erroneously think they do. With manual hubs or without
manual
> > hubs.
> >
> > Jerry
> > --
> > Jerry Bransford
> > To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> > KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> >
> > "Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:ZUyqb.131454$Fm2.108362@attbi_s04...
> > > Hi everyone. I was out West (OTR) delivering auto parts during the
wild
> > > fires. Terrible.
> > >
> > > Home again for a few days and thinking about my TJ build up again.
What
> > was
> > > standard for the Front differential in 2001. I have a Dana 44 in the
> > rear.
> > > Is it the Dana 30?
> > >
> > > Secondly, TJ's front differentials spin all the time. I'm thinking
> this
> > > will not work well with a limited slip or automatic locker (On road
> > > handling) , so ARB is about the only choice?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Andy
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
benefit to installing a front limited slip differential up front over an
automatic locker unless you wheel on off-camber (sloping to the side) icy or
mud-covered trails. For most wheeling, a front-locker has significant
benefits over a front limited slip differential. I've had both in my front
axle and only installed the front LSD for a few years by erroneously
thinking a front-mounted locker would be a bad decision for my TJ. The
front-locker I have up front now may as well not even be there until I shift
into 4wd.
Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
"Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:siDqb.134272$e01.451720@attbi_s02...
> Hey Jerry, good explanation! Thanks.
>
> I get conflicting information from even the companies that sell limited
slip
> and lockers. I was trying to think of a good setup for front and back. I
> like manual hubs just for mileage, wear and flat towing like I do. I'm
one
> of those that drives on -road long distances in the Jeep and then want it
to
> take on aggressive trails off- road. Maybe an ARB in the rear and limited
> slip in the front.
>
> Thanks
>
> Andy
>
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
> news:fBCqb.20030$PD2.8063@fed1read05...
> > Contrary to what a certain non-TJ owner has told you, you absolutely...
> > absolutely... cannot tell a locker or limited slip differential is in
the
> > front Dana 30 axle when you're in 2wd. Without manual hubs, I first had
a
> > limited slip differential in my front Dana 30 and it was totally
> transparent
> > in 2wd, you could not tell it was there. Then, again without manual
hubs,
> I
> > installed a Powertrax locker in my front Dana 30. Again, in 2wd, I
could
> > not detect its presence. Finally, I installed Warn manual hubs on the
> front
> > axle about six months ago and I run around with them unlocked. There is
no
> > difference in how my front locker feels between when the front hubs are
> > locked vs. unlocked.
> >
> > The reason for this is because when you're in 2wd, there is no torque
> being
> > sent to the front locker and automatic lockers require torque to firmly
> lock
> > them up. Yes automatic lockers are normally locked... but without
torque
> to
> > hold them FIRMLY locked as would happen in 4wd, they unlock so easily to
> go
> > around corners etc. when the TJ is in 2wd that they don't bind at all
> like
> > some people erroneously think they do. With manual hubs or without
manual
> > hubs.
> >
> > Jerry
> > --
> > Jerry Bransford
> > To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> > KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> >
> > "Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:ZUyqb.131454$Fm2.108362@attbi_s04...
> > > Hi everyone. I was out West (OTR) delivering auto parts during the
wild
> > > fires. Terrible.
> > >
> > > Home again for a few days and thinking about my TJ build up again.
What
> > was
> > > standard for the Front differential in 2001. I have a Dana 44 in the
> > rear.
> > > Is it the Dana 30?
> > >
> > > Secondly, TJ's front differentials spin all the time. I'm thinking
> this
> > > will not work well with a limited slip or automatic locker (On road
> > > handling) , so ARB is about the only choice?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Andy
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
#27
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 2001 TJ Front Differential
Andy, I must not have explained the front axle that well... there's no
benefit to installing a front limited slip differential up front over an
automatic locker unless you wheel on off-camber (sloping to the side) icy or
mud-covered trails. For most wheeling, a front-locker has significant
benefits over a front limited slip differential. I've had both in my front
axle and only installed the front LSD for a few years by erroneously
thinking a front-mounted locker would be a bad decision for my TJ. The
front-locker I have up front now may as well not even be there until I shift
into 4wd.
Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
"Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:siDqb.134272$e01.451720@attbi_s02...
> Hey Jerry, good explanation! Thanks.
>
> I get conflicting information from even the companies that sell limited
slip
> and lockers. I was trying to think of a good setup for front and back. I
> like manual hubs just for mileage, wear and flat towing like I do. I'm
one
> of those that drives on -road long distances in the Jeep and then want it
to
> take on aggressive trails off- road. Maybe an ARB in the rear and limited
> slip in the front.
>
> Thanks
>
> Andy
>
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
> news:fBCqb.20030$PD2.8063@fed1read05...
> > Contrary to what a certain non-TJ owner has told you, you absolutely...
> > absolutely... cannot tell a locker or limited slip differential is in
the
> > front Dana 30 axle when you're in 2wd. Without manual hubs, I first had
a
> > limited slip differential in my front Dana 30 and it was totally
> transparent
> > in 2wd, you could not tell it was there. Then, again without manual
hubs,
> I
> > installed a Powertrax locker in my front Dana 30. Again, in 2wd, I
could
> > not detect its presence. Finally, I installed Warn manual hubs on the
> front
> > axle about six months ago and I run around with them unlocked. There is
no
> > difference in how my front locker feels between when the front hubs are
> > locked vs. unlocked.
> >
> > The reason for this is because when you're in 2wd, there is no torque
> being
> > sent to the front locker and automatic lockers require torque to firmly
> lock
> > them up. Yes automatic lockers are normally locked... but without
torque
> to
> > hold them FIRMLY locked as would happen in 4wd, they unlock so easily to
> go
> > around corners etc. when the TJ is in 2wd that they don't bind at all
> like
> > some people erroneously think they do. With manual hubs or without
manual
> > hubs.
> >
> > Jerry
> > --
> > Jerry Bransford
> > To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> > KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> >
> > "Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:ZUyqb.131454$Fm2.108362@attbi_s04...
> > > Hi everyone. I was out West (OTR) delivering auto parts during the
wild
> > > fires. Terrible.
> > >
> > > Home again for a few days and thinking about my TJ build up again.
What
> > was
> > > standard for the Front differential in 2001. I have a Dana 44 in the
> > rear.
> > > Is it the Dana 30?
> > >
> > > Secondly, TJ's front differentials spin all the time. I'm thinking
> this
> > > will not work well with a limited slip or automatic locker (On road
> > > handling) , so ARB is about the only choice?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Andy
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
benefit to installing a front limited slip differential up front over an
automatic locker unless you wheel on off-camber (sloping to the side) icy or
mud-covered trails. For most wheeling, a front-locker has significant
benefits over a front limited slip differential. I've had both in my front
axle and only installed the front LSD for a few years by erroneously
thinking a front-mounted locker would be a bad decision for my TJ. The
front-locker I have up front now may as well not even be there until I shift
into 4wd.
Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
"Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:siDqb.134272$e01.451720@attbi_s02...
> Hey Jerry, good explanation! Thanks.
>
> I get conflicting information from even the companies that sell limited
slip
> and lockers. I was trying to think of a good setup for front and back. I
> like manual hubs just for mileage, wear and flat towing like I do. I'm
one
> of those that drives on -road long distances in the Jeep and then want it
to
> take on aggressive trails off- road. Maybe an ARB in the rear and limited
> slip in the front.
>
> Thanks
>
> Andy
>
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
> news:fBCqb.20030$PD2.8063@fed1read05...
> > Contrary to what a certain non-TJ owner has told you, you absolutely...
> > absolutely... cannot tell a locker or limited slip differential is in
the
> > front Dana 30 axle when you're in 2wd. Without manual hubs, I first had
a
> > limited slip differential in my front Dana 30 and it was totally
> transparent
> > in 2wd, you could not tell it was there. Then, again without manual
hubs,
> I
> > installed a Powertrax locker in my front Dana 30. Again, in 2wd, I
could
> > not detect its presence. Finally, I installed Warn manual hubs on the
> front
> > axle about six months ago and I run around with them unlocked. There is
no
> > difference in how my front locker feels between when the front hubs are
> > locked vs. unlocked.
> >
> > The reason for this is because when you're in 2wd, there is no torque
> being
> > sent to the front locker and automatic lockers require torque to firmly
> lock
> > them up. Yes automatic lockers are normally locked... but without
torque
> to
> > hold them FIRMLY locked as would happen in 4wd, they unlock so easily to
> go
> > around corners etc. when the TJ is in 2wd that they don't bind at all
> like
> > some people erroneously think they do. With manual hubs or without
manual
> > hubs.
> >
> > Jerry
> > --
> > Jerry Bransford
> > To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> > KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> >
> > "Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:ZUyqb.131454$Fm2.108362@attbi_s04...
> > > Hi everyone. I was out West (OTR) delivering auto parts during the
wild
> > > fires. Terrible.
> > >
> > > Home again for a few days and thinking about my TJ build up again.
What
> > was
> > > standard for the Front differential in 2001. I have a Dana 44 in the
> > rear.
> > > Is it the Dana 30?
> > >
> > > Secondly, TJ's front differentials spin all the time. I'm thinking
> this
> > > will not work well with a limited slip or automatic locker (On road
> > > handling) , so ARB is about the only choice?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Andy
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
#28
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Re: 2001 TJ Front Differential
Andy, I must not have explained the front axle that well... there's no
benefit to installing a front limited slip differential up front over an
automatic locker unless you wheel on off-camber (sloping to the side) icy or
mud-covered trails. For most wheeling, a front-locker has significant
benefits over a front limited slip differential. I've had both in my front
axle and only installed the front LSD for a few years by erroneously
thinking a front-mounted locker would be a bad decision for my TJ. The
front-locker I have up front now may as well not even be there until I shift
into 4wd.
Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
"Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:siDqb.134272$e01.451720@attbi_s02...
> Hey Jerry, good explanation! Thanks.
>
> I get conflicting information from even the companies that sell limited
slip
> and lockers. I was trying to think of a good setup for front and back. I
> like manual hubs just for mileage, wear and flat towing like I do. I'm
one
> of those that drives on -road long distances in the Jeep and then want it
to
> take on aggressive trails off- road. Maybe an ARB in the rear and limited
> slip in the front.
>
> Thanks
>
> Andy
>
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
> news:fBCqb.20030$PD2.8063@fed1read05...
> > Contrary to what a certain non-TJ owner has told you, you absolutely...
> > absolutely... cannot tell a locker or limited slip differential is in
the
> > front Dana 30 axle when you're in 2wd. Without manual hubs, I first had
a
> > limited slip differential in my front Dana 30 and it was totally
> transparent
> > in 2wd, you could not tell it was there. Then, again without manual
hubs,
> I
> > installed a Powertrax locker in my front Dana 30. Again, in 2wd, I
could
> > not detect its presence. Finally, I installed Warn manual hubs on the
> front
> > axle about six months ago and I run around with them unlocked. There is
no
> > difference in how my front locker feels between when the front hubs are
> > locked vs. unlocked.
> >
> > The reason for this is because when you're in 2wd, there is no torque
> being
> > sent to the front locker and automatic lockers require torque to firmly
> lock
> > them up. Yes automatic lockers are normally locked... but without
torque
> to
> > hold them FIRMLY locked as would happen in 4wd, they unlock so easily to
> go
> > around corners etc. when the TJ is in 2wd that they don't bind at all
> like
> > some people erroneously think they do. With manual hubs or without
manual
> > hubs.
> >
> > Jerry
> > --
> > Jerry Bransford
> > To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> > KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> >
> > "Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:ZUyqb.131454$Fm2.108362@attbi_s04...
> > > Hi everyone. I was out West (OTR) delivering auto parts during the
wild
> > > fires. Terrible.
> > >
> > > Home again for a few days and thinking about my TJ build up again.
What
> > was
> > > standard for the Front differential in 2001. I have a Dana 44 in the
> > rear.
> > > Is it the Dana 30?
> > >
> > > Secondly, TJ's front differentials spin all the time. I'm thinking
> this
> > > will not work well with a limited slip or automatic locker (On road
> > > handling) , so ARB is about the only choice?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Andy
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
benefit to installing a front limited slip differential up front over an
automatic locker unless you wheel on off-camber (sloping to the side) icy or
mud-covered trails. For most wheeling, a front-locker has significant
benefits over a front limited slip differential. I've had both in my front
axle and only installed the front LSD for a few years by erroneously
thinking a front-mounted locker would be a bad decision for my TJ. The
front-locker I have up front now may as well not even be there until I shift
into 4wd.
Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
"Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:siDqb.134272$e01.451720@attbi_s02...
> Hey Jerry, good explanation! Thanks.
>
> I get conflicting information from even the companies that sell limited
slip
> and lockers. I was trying to think of a good setup for front and back. I
> like manual hubs just for mileage, wear and flat towing like I do. I'm
one
> of those that drives on -road long distances in the Jeep and then want it
to
> take on aggressive trails off- road. Maybe an ARB in the rear and limited
> slip in the front.
>
> Thanks
>
> Andy
>
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
> news:fBCqb.20030$PD2.8063@fed1read05...
> > Contrary to what a certain non-TJ owner has told you, you absolutely...
> > absolutely... cannot tell a locker or limited slip differential is in
the
> > front Dana 30 axle when you're in 2wd. Without manual hubs, I first had
a
> > limited slip differential in my front Dana 30 and it was totally
> transparent
> > in 2wd, you could not tell it was there. Then, again without manual
hubs,
> I
> > installed a Powertrax locker in my front Dana 30. Again, in 2wd, I
could
> > not detect its presence. Finally, I installed Warn manual hubs on the
> front
> > axle about six months ago and I run around with them unlocked. There is
no
> > difference in how my front locker feels between when the front hubs are
> > locked vs. unlocked.
> >
> > The reason for this is because when you're in 2wd, there is no torque
> being
> > sent to the front locker and automatic lockers require torque to firmly
> lock
> > them up. Yes automatic lockers are normally locked... but without
torque
> to
> > hold them FIRMLY locked as would happen in 4wd, they unlock so easily to
> go
> > around corners etc. when the TJ is in 2wd that they don't bind at all
> like
> > some people erroneously think they do. With manual hubs or without
manual
> > hubs.
> >
> > Jerry
> > --
> > Jerry Bransford
> > To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> > KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> >
> > "Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:ZUyqb.131454$Fm2.108362@attbi_s04...
> > > Hi everyone. I was out West (OTR) delivering auto parts during the
wild
> > > fires. Terrible.
> > >
> > > Home again for a few days and thinking about my TJ build up again.
What
> > was
> > > standard for the Front differential in 2001. I have a Dana 44 in the
> > rear.
> > > Is it the Dana 30?
> > >
> > > Secondly, TJ's front differentials spin all the time. I'm thinking
> this
> > > will not work well with a limited slip or automatic locker (On road
> > > handling) , so ARB is about the only choice?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Andy
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
#29
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Re: 2001 TJ Front Differential
Jerry, OK.. Thanks again. I appreciate it.
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
news:GqDqb.20343$PD2.15283@fed1read05...
> Andy, I must not have explained the front axle that well... there's no
> benefit to installing a front limited slip differential up front over an
> automatic locker unless you wheel on off-camber (sloping to the side) icy
or
> mud-covered trails. For most wheeling, a front-locker has significant
> benefits over a front limited slip differential. I've had both in my
front
> axle and only installed the front LSD for a few years by erroneously
> thinking a front-mounted locker would be a bad decision for my TJ. The
> front-locker I have up front now may as well not even be there until I
shift
> into 4wd.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
> "Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:siDqb.134272$e01.451720@attbi_s02...
> > Hey Jerry, good explanation! Thanks.
> >
> > I get conflicting information from even the companies that sell limited
> slip
> > and lockers. I was trying to think of a good setup for front and back.
I
> > like manual hubs just for mileage, wear and flat towing like I do. I'm
> one
> > of those that drives on -road long distances in the Jeep and then want
it
> to
> > take on aggressive trails off- road. Maybe an ARB in the rear and
limited
> > slip in the front.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Andy
> >
> >
> > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
> > news:fBCqb.20030$PD2.8063@fed1read05...
> > > Contrary to what a certain non-TJ owner has told you, you
absolutely...
> > > absolutely... cannot tell a locker or limited slip differential is in
> the
> > > front Dana 30 axle when you're in 2wd. Without manual hubs, I first
had
> a
> > > limited slip differential in my front Dana 30 and it was totally
> > transparent
> > > in 2wd, you could not tell it was there. Then, again without manual
> hubs,
> > I
> > > installed a Powertrax locker in my front Dana 30. Again, in 2wd, I
> could
> > > not detect its presence. Finally, I installed Warn manual hubs on the
> > front
> > > axle about six months ago and I run around with them unlocked. There
is
> no
> > > difference in how my front locker feels between when the front hubs
are
> > > locked vs. unlocked.
> > >
> > > The reason for this is because when you're in 2wd, there is no torque
> > being
> > > sent to the front locker and automatic lockers require torque to
firmly
> > lock
> > > them up. Yes automatic lockers are normally locked... but without
> torque
> > to
> > > hold them FIRMLY locked as would happen in 4wd, they unlock so easily
to
> > go
> > > around corners etc. when the TJ is in 2wd that they don't bind at all
> > like
> > > some people erroneously think they do. With manual hubs or without
> manual
> > > hubs.
> > >
> > > Jerry
> > > --
> > > Jerry Bransford
> > > To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> > > KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> > > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> > >
> > > "Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:ZUyqb.131454$Fm2.108362@attbi_s04...
> > > > Hi everyone. I was out West (OTR) delivering auto parts during the
> wild
> > > > fires. Terrible.
> > > >
> > > > Home again for a few days and thinking about my TJ build up again.
> What
> > > was
> > > > standard for the Front differential in 2001. I have a Dana 44 in
the
> > > rear.
> > > > Is it the Dana 30?
> > > >
> > > > Secondly, TJ's front differentials spin all the time. I'm
thinking
> > this
> > > > will not work well with a limited slip or automatic locker (On road
> > > > handling) , so ARB is about the only choice?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > Andy
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
news:GqDqb.20343$PD2.15283@fed1read05...
> Andy, I must not have explained the front axle that well... there's no
> benefit to installing a front limited slip differential up front over an
> automatic locker unless you wheel on off-camber (sloping to the side) icy
or
> mud-covered trails. For most wheeling, a front-locker has significant
> benefits over a front limited slip differential. I've had both in my
front
> axle and only installed the front LSD for a few years by erroneously
> thinking a front-mounted locker would be a bad decision for my TJ. The
> front-locker I have up front now may as well not even be there until I
shift
> into 4wd.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
> "Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:siDqb.134272$e01.451720@attbi_s02...
> > Hey Jerry, good explanation! Thanks.
> >
> > I get conflicting information from even the companies that sell limited
> slip
> > and lockers. I was trying to think of a good setup for front and back.
I
> > like manual hubs just for mileage, wear and flat towing like I do. I'm
> one
> > of those that drives on -road long distances in the Jeep and then want
it
> to
> > take on aggressive trails off- road. Maybe an ARB in the rear and
limited
> > slip in the front.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Andy
> >
> >
> > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
> > news:fBCqb.20030$PD2.8063@fed1read05...
> > > Contrary to what a certain non-TJ owner has told you, you
absolutely...
> > > absolutely... cannot tell a locker or limited slip differential is in
> the
> > > front Dana 30 axle when you're in 2wd. Without manual hubs, I first
had
> a
> > > limited slip differential in my front Dana 30 and it was totally
> > transparent
> > > in 2wd, you could not tell it was there. Then, again without manual
> hubs,
> > I
> > > installed a Powertrax locker in my front Dana 30. Again, in 2wd, I
> could
> > > not detect its presence. Finally, I installed Warn manual hubs on the
> > front
> > > axle about six months ago and I run around with them unlocked. There
is
> no
> > > difference in how my front locker feels between when the front hubs
are
> > > locked vs. unlocked.
> > >
> > > The reason for this is because when you're in 2wd, there is no torque
> > being
> > > sent to the front locker and automatic lockers require torque to
firmly
> > lock
> > > them up. Yes automatic lockers are normally locked... but without
> torque
> > to
> > > hold them FIRMLY locked as would happen in 4wd, they unlock so easily
to
> > go
> > > around corners etc. when the TJ is in 2wd that they don't bind at all
> > like
> > > some people erroneously think they do. With manual hubs or without
> manual
> > > hubs.
> > >
> > > Jerry
> > > --
> > > Jerry Bransford
> > > To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> > > KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> > > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> > >
> > > "Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:ZUyqb.131454$Fm2.108362@attbi_s04...
> > > > Hi everyone. I was out West (OTR) delivering auto parts during the
> wild
> > > > fires. Terrible.
> > > >
> > > > Home again for a few days and thinking about my TJ build up again.
> What
> > > was
> > > > standard for the Front differential in 2001. I have a Dana 44 in
the
> > > rear.
> > > > Is it the Dana 30?
> > > >
> > > > Secondly, TJ's front differentials spin all the time. I'm
thinking
> > this
> > > > will not work well with a limited slip or automatic locker (On road
> > > > handling) , so ARB is about the only choice?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > Andy
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
#30
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 2001 TJ Front Differential
Jerry, OK.. Thanks again. I appreciate it.
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
news:GqDqb.20343$PD2.15283@fed1read05...
> Andy, I must not have explained the front axle that well... there's no
> benefit to installing a front limited slip differential up front over an
> automatic locker unless you wheel on off-camber (sloping to the side) icy
or
> mud-covered trails. For most wheeling, a front-locker has significant
> benefits over a front limited slip differential. I've had both in my
front
> axle and only installed the front LSD for a few years by erroneously
> thinking a front-mounted locker would be a bad decision for my TJ. The
> front-locker I have up front now may as well not even be there until I
shift
> into 4wd.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
> "Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:siDqb.134272$e01.451720@attbi_s02...
> > Hey Jerry, good explanation! Thanks.
> >
> > I get conflicting information from even the companies that sell limited
> slip
> > and lockers. I was trying to think of a good setup for front and back.
I
> > like manual hubs just for mileage, wear and flat towing like I do. I'm
> one
> > of those that drives on -road long distances in the Jeep and then want
it
> to
> > take on aggressive trails off- road. Maybe an ARB in the rear and
limited
> > slip in the front.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Andy
> >
> >
> > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
> > news:fBCqb.20030$PD2.8063@fed1read05...
> > > Contrary to what a certain non-TJ owner has told you, you
absolutely...
> > > absolutely... cannot tell a locker or limited slip differential is in
> the
> > > front Dana 30 axle when you're in 2wd. Without manual hubs, I first
had
> a
> > > limited slip differential in my front Dana 30 and it was totally
> > transparent
> > > in 2wd, you could not tell it was there. Then, again without manual
> hubs,
> > I
> > > installed a Powertrax locker in my front Dana 30. Again, in 2wd, I
> could
> > > not detect its presence. Finally, I installed Warn manual hubs on the
> > front
> > > axle about six months ago and I run around with them unlocked. There
is
> no
> > > difference in how my front locker feels between when the front hubs
are
> > > locked vs. unlocked.
> > >
> > > The reason for this is because when you're in 2wd, there is no torque
> > being
> > > sent to the front locker and automatic lockers require torque to
firmly
> > lock
> > > them up. Yes automatic lockers are normally locked... but without
> torque
> > to
> > > hold them FIRMLY locked as would happen in 4wd, they unlock so easily
to
> > go
> > > around corners etc. when the TJ is in 2wd that they don't bind at all
> > like
> > > some people erroneously think they do. With manual hubs or without
> manual
> > > hubs.
> > >
> > > Jerry
> > > --
> > > Jerry Bransford
> > > To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> > > KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> > > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> > >
> > > "Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:ZUyqb.131454$Fm2.108362@attbi_s04...
> > > > Hi everyone. I was out West (OTR) delivering auto parts during the
> wild
> > > > fires. Terrible.
> > > >
> > > > Home again for a few days and thinking about my TJ build up again.
> What
> > > was
> > > > standard for the Front differential in 2001. I have a Dana 44 in
the
> > > rear.
> > > > Is it the Dana 30?
> > > >
> > > > Secondly, TJ's front differentials spin all the time. I'm
thinking
> > this
> > > > will not work well with a limited slip or automatic locker (On road
> > > > handling) , so ARB is about the only choice?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > Andy
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
news:GqDqb.20343$PD2.15283@fed1read05...
> Andy, I must not have explained the front axle that well... there's no
> benefit to installing a front limited slip differential up front over an
> automatic locker unless you wheel on off-camber (sloping to the side) icy
or
> mud-covered trails. For most wheeling, a front-locker has significant
> benefits over a front limited slip differential. I've had both in my
front
> axle and only installed the front LSD for a few years by erroneously
> thinking a front-mounted locker would be a bad decision for my TJ. The
> front-locker I have up front now may as well not even be there until I
shift
> into 4wd.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
> "Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:siDqb.134272$e01.451720@attbi_s02...
> > Hey Jerry, good explanation! Thanks.
> >
> > I get conflicting information from even the companies that sell limited
> slip
> > and lockers. I was trying to think of a good setup for front and back.
I
> > like manual hubs just for mileage, wear and flat towing like I do. I'm
> one
> > of those that drives on -road long distances in the Jeep and then want
it
> to
> > take on aggressive trails off- road. Maybe an ARB in the rear and
limited
> > slip in the front.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Andy
> >
> >
> > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
> > news:fBCqb.20030$PD2.8063@fed1read05...
> > > Contrary to what a certain non-TJ owner has told you, you
absolutely...
> > > absolutely... cannot tell a locker or limited slip differential is in
> the
> > > front Dana 30 axle when you're in 2wd. Without manual hubs, I first
had
> a
> > > limited slip differential in my front Dana 30 and it was totally
> > transparent
> > > in 2wd, you could not tell it was there. Then, again without manual
> hubs,
> > I
> > > installed a Powertrax locker in my front Dana 30. Again, in 2wd, I
> could
> > > not detect its presence. Finally, I installed Warn manual hubs on the
> > front
> > > axle about six months ago and I run around with them unlocked. There
is
> no
> > > difference in how my front locker feels between when the front hubs
are
> > > locked vs. unlocked.
> > >
> > > The reason for this is because when you're in 2wd, there is no torque
> > being
> > > sent to the front locker and automatic lockers require torque to
firmly
> > lock
> > > them up. Yes automatic lockers are normally locked... but without
> torque
> > to
> > > hold them FIRMLY locked as would happen in 4wd, they unlock so easily
to
> > go
> > > around corners etc. when the TJ is in 2wd that they don't bind at all
> > like
> > > some people erroneously think they do. With manual hubs or without
> manual
> > > hubs.
> > >
> > > Jerry
> > > --
> > > Jerry Bransford
> > > To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> > > KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> > > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> > >
> > > "Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:ZUyqb.131454$Fm2.108362@attbi_s04...
> > > > Hi everyone. I was out West (OTR) delivering auto parts during the
> wild
> > > > fires. Terrible.
> > > >
> > > > Home again for a few days and thinking about my TJ build up again.
> What
> > > was
> > > > standard for the Front differential in 2001. I have a Dana 44 in
the
> > > rear.
> > > > Is it the Dana 30?
> > > >
> > > > Secondly, TJ's front differentials spin all the time. I'm
thinking
> > this
> > > > will not work well with a limited slip or automatic locker (On road
> > > > handling) , so ARB is about the only choice?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > Andy
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>