Is 2.4 I4 really enough for a Wrangler?
05-11-2005, 07:08 AM
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Re: Is 2.4 I4 really enough for a Wrangler?
It sounds like you have a smart plan. The diesel in a Wrangler does sound
like a great idea. That ought to get good mileage if anything does. If the
new TJ's don't have the diesel or a soft-top, and you end up looking at an
existing TJ, I tend to think you will like the 2.4 motor, as your 2000
should have a 2.5. I consider the new motor an improvement, but that is
just my opinion.
But man, that diesel with about 300 lb/ft of torque in the TJ would make a
great vehicle. I have driven that motor in a Liberty, and the power and
smoothness is excellent, and the noise is not that bad either. You notice it
is a diesel at idle, but it is not very loud. Out on the road, I personally
didn't notice it being any louder than its gas counterparts. In then end my
wife settled for a 3.7 gas motor, but that diesel would have been my
preference.
If they put that motor in the Wranglers, I am going to have to come up with
a real good excuse to explain to my wife why I need to trade for one....
:-)
Bryan
"ElAlumbrado" <elNOSPAMalumbrado@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Bryan, I've got a 2000 TJ. It is definitely not a highway vehicle. I live
> on a ranch in Texas, so my TJ probably spends more time off-pavement than
> most (in fact, it is rarely used on-pavement). For fence running or
> pasture bashing it's a fine little ATV substitute, able to haul 2 people
> and some tools pretty comfortably into some places that might be too tight
> for a 4x4 pickup. My Wrangler even has the ubiquitous "West Texas
> Pinstriping" common to working Jeeps in this part of the country, applied
> by running it too close to a barb-wire fence. I also pull it around behind
> my RV from time to time, and it makes a great vehicle for touring National
> Parks and Forests. It would probably even make a good in-town runabout, if
> there was a town anywhere nearby that I needed to run about. But it is a
> miserable thing to drive on the highway. Since getting from here to
> anywhere means a pretty good drive down the highway, the Jeep usually gets
> left at home.
>
> I was waiting to see what the next generation looks like before buying a
> new Jeep, as I like the idea of a diesel 4-door Wrangler. But, if the new
> Wrangler will not be offered with a soft top, as rumors seem to indicate,
> then I'll buy one of the last TJ's I can get my hands on before production
> stops (or just re-power the one I already have). A hard top Jeep with
> doors is of no use to me. I'd buy another 4x4 pickup or Suburban if I
> needed an enclosed vehicle. But aside from an ATV or a horse, there is no
> substitute for an open Jeep. As all-purpose vehicles they have their
> flaws, but I just can't understand why anybody would ride a horse when
> they could be driving a Jeep.
>
>
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like a great idea. That ought to get good mileage if anything does. If the
new TJ's don't have the diesel or a soft-top, and you end up looking at an
existing TJ, I tend to think you will like the 2.4 motor, as your 2000
should have a 2.5. I consider the new motor an improvement, but that is
just my opinion.
But man, that diesel with about 300 lb/ft of torque in the TJ would make a
great vehicle. I have driven that motor in a Liberty, and the power and
smoothness is excellent, and the noise is not that bad either. You notice it
is a diesel at idle, but it is not very loud. Out on the road, I personally
didn't notice it being any louder than its gas counterparts. In then end my
wife settled for a 3.7 gas motor, but that diesel would have been my
preference.
If they put that motor in the Wranglers, I am going to have to come up with
a real good excuse to explain to my wife why I need to trade for one....
:-)
Bryan
"ElAlumbrado" <elNOSPAMalumbrado@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> Bryan, I've got a 2000 TJ. It is definitely not a highway vehicle. I live
> on a ranch in Texas, so my TJ probably spends more time off-pavement than
> most (in fact, it is rarely used on-pavement). For fence running or
> pasture bashing it's a fine little ATV substitute, able to haul 2 people
> and some tools pretty comfortably into some places that might be too tight
> for a 4x4 pickup. My Wrangler even has the ubiquitous "West Texas
> Pinstriping" common to working Jeeps in this part of the country, applied
> by running it too close to a barb-wire fence. I also pull it around behind
> my RV from time to time, and it makes a great vehicle for touring National
> Parks and Forests. It would probably even make a good in-town runabout, if
> there was a town anywhere nearby that I needed to run about. But it is a
> miserable thing to drive on the highway. Since getting from here to
> anywhere means a pretty good drive down the highway, the Jeep usually gets
> left at home.
>
> I was waiting to see what the next generation looks like before buying a
> new Jeep, as I like the idea of a diesel 4-door Wrangler. But, if the new
> Wrangler will not be offered with a soft top, as rumors seem to indicate,
> then I'll buy one of the last TJ's I can get my hands on before production
> stops (or just re-power the one I already have). A hard top Jeep with
> doors is of no use to me. I'd buy another 4x4 pickup or Suburban if I
> needed an enclosed vehicle. But aside from an ATV or a horse, there is no
> substitute for an open Jeep. As all-purpose vehicles they have their
> flaws, but I just can't understand why anybody would ride a horse when
> they could be driving a Jeep.
>
>
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05-11-2005, 07:08 AM
#132
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Re: Is 2.4 I4 really enough for a Wrangler?
It sounds like you have a smart plan. The diesel in a Wrangler does sound
like a great idea. That ought to get good mileage if anything does. If the
new TJ's don't have the diesel or a soft-top, and you end up looking at an
existing TJ, I tend to think you will like the 2.4 motor, as your 2000
should have a 2.5. I consider the new motor an improvement, but that is
just my opinion.
But man, that diesel with about 300 lb/ft of torque in the TJ would make a
great vehicle. I have driven that motor in a Liberty, and the power and
smoothness is excellent, and the noise is not that bad either. You notice it
is a diesel at idle, but it is not very loud. Out on the road, I personally
didn't notice it being any louder than its gas counterparts. In then end my
wife settled for a 3.7 gas motor, but that diesel would have been my
preference.
If they put that motor in the Wranglers, I am going to have to come up with
a real good excuse to explain to my wife why I need to trade for one....
:-)
Bryan
"ElAlumbrado" <elNOSPAMalumbrado@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:d58fc$42818731$943f9512$1767@STARBAND.NET...
>
> Bryan, I've got a 2000 TJ. It is definitely not a highway vehicle. I live
> on a ranch in Texas, so my TJ probably spends more time off-pavement than
> most (in fact, it is rarely used on-pavement). For fence running or
> pasture bashing it's a fine little ATV substitute, able to haul 2 people
> and some tools pretty comfortably into some places that might be too tight
> for a 4x4 pickup. My Wrangler even has the ubiquitous "West Texas
> Pinstriping" common to working Jeeps in this part of the country, applied
> by running it too close to a barb-wire fence. I also pull it around behind
> my RV from time to time, and it makes a great vehicle for touring National
> Parks and Forests. It would probably even make a good in-town runabout, if
> there was a town anywhere nearby that I needed to run about. But it is a
> miserable thing to drive on the highway. Since getting from here to
> anywhere means a pretty good drive down the highway, the Jeep usually gets
> left at home.
>
> I was waiting to see what the next generation looks like before buying a
> new Jeep, as I like the idea of a diesel 4-door Wrangler. But, if the new
> Wrangler will not be offered with a soft top, as rumors seem to indicate,
> then I'll buy one of the last TJ's I can get my hands on before production
> stops (or just re-power the one I already have). A hard top Jeep with
> doors is of no use to me. I'd buy another 4x4 pickup or Suburban if I
> needed an enclosed vehicle. But aside from an ATV or a horse, there is no
> substitute for an open Jeep. As all-purpose vehicles they have their
> flaws, but I just can't understand why anybody would ride a horse when
> they could be driving a Jeep.
>
>
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like a great idea. That ought to get good mileage if anything does. If the
new TJ's don't have the diesel or a soft-top, and you end up looking at an
existing TJ, I tend to think you will like the 2.4 motor, as your 2000
should have a 2.5. I consider the new motor an improvement, but that is
just my opinion.
But man, that diesel with about 300 lb/ft of torque in the TJ would make a
great vehicle. I have driven that motor in a Liberty, and the power and
smoothness is excellent, and the noise is not that bad either. You notice it
is a diesel at idle, but it is not very loud. Out on the road, I personally
didn't notice it being any louder than its gas counterparts. In then end my
wife settled for a 3.7 gas motor, but that diesel would have been my
preference.
If they put that motor in the Wranglers, I am going to have to come up with
a real good excuse to explain to my wife why I need to trade for one....
:-)
Bryan
"ElAlumbrado" <elNOSPAMalumbrado@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:d58fc$42818731$943f9512$1767@STARBAND.NET...
>
> Bryan, I've got a 2000 TJ. It is definitely not a highway vehicle. I live
> on a ranch in Texas, so my TJ probably spends more time off-pavement than
> most (in fact, it is rarely used on-pavement). For fence running or
> pasture bashing it's a fine little ATV substitute, able to haul 2 people
> and some tools pretty comfortably into some places that might be too tight
> for a 4x4 pickup. My Wrangler even has the ubiquitous "West Texas
> Pinstriping" common to working Jeeps in this part of the country, applied
> by running it too close to a barb-wire fence. I also pull it around behind
> my RV from time to time, and it makes a great vehicle for touring National
> Parks and Forests. It would probably even make a good in-town runabout, if
> there was a town anywhere nearby that I needed to run about. But it is a
> miserable thing to drive on the highway. Since getting from here to
> anywhere means a pretty good drive down the highway, the Jeep usually gets
> left at home.
>
> I was waiting to see what the next generation looks like before buying a
> new Jeep, as I like the idea of a diesel 4-door Wrangler. But, if the new
> Wrangler will not be offered with a soft top, as rumors seem to indicate,
> then I'll buy one of the last TJ's I can get my hands on before production
> stops (or just re-power the one I already have). A hard top Jeep with
> doors is of no use to me. I'd buy another 4x4 pickup or Suburban if I
> needed an enclosed vehicle. But aside from an ATV or a horse, there is no
> substitute for an open Jeep. As all-purpose vehicles they have their
> flaws, but I just can't understand why anybody would ride a horse when
> they could be driving a Jeep.
>
>
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05-11-2005, 07:08 AM
#133
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Re: Is 2.4 I4 really enough for a Wrangler?
It sounds like you have a smart plan. The diesel in a Wrangler does sound
like a great idea. That ought to get good mileage if anything does. If the
new TJ's don't have the diesel or a soft-top, and you end up looking at an
existing TJ, I tend to think you will like the 2.4 motor, as your 2000
should have a 2.5. I consider the new motor an improvement, but that is
just my opinion.
But man, that diesel with about 300 lb/ft of torque in the TJ would make a
great vehicle. I have driven that motor in a Liberty, and the power and
smoothness is excellent, and the noise is not that bad either. You notice it
is a diesel at idle, but it is not very loud. Out on the road, I personally
didn't notice it being any louder than its gas counterparts. In then end my
wife settled for a 3.7 gas motor, but that diesel would have been my
preference.
If they put that motor in the Wranglers, I am going to have to come up with
a real good excuse to explain to my wife why I need to trade for one....
:-)
Bryan
"ElAlumbrado" <elNOSPAMalumbrado@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:d58fc$42818731$943f9512$1767@STARBAND.NET...
>
> Bryan, I've got a 2000 TJ. It is definitely not a highway vehicle. I live
> on a ranch in Texas, so my TJ probably spends more time off-pavement than
> most (in fact, it is rarely used on-pavement). For fence running or
> pasture bashing it's a fine little ATV substitute, able to haul 2 people
> and some tools pretty comfortably into some places that might be too tight
> for a 4x4 pickup. My Wrangler even has the ubiquitous "West Texas
> Pinstriping" common to working Jeeps in this part of the country, applied
> by running it too close to a barb-wire fence. I also pull it around behind
> my RV from time to time, and it makes a great vehicle for touring National
> Parks and Forests. It would probably even make a good in-town runabout, if
> there was a town anywhere nearby that I needed to run about. But it is a
> miserable thing to drive on the highway. Since getting from here to
> anywhere means a pretty good drive down the highway, the Jeep usually gets
> left at home.
>
> I was waiting to see what the next generation looks like before buying a
> new Jeep, as I like the idea of a diesel 4-door Wrangler. But, if the new
> Wrangler will not be offered with a soft top, as rumors seem to indicate,
> then I'll buy one of the last TJ's I can get my hands on before production
> stops (or just re-power the one I already have). A hard top Jeep with
> doors is of no use to me. I'd buy another 4x4 pickup or Suburban if I
> needed an enclosed vehicle. But aside from an ATV or a horse, there is no
> substitute for an open Jeep. As all-purpose vehicles they have their
> flaws, but I just can't understand why anybody would ride a horse when
> they could be driving a Jeep.
>
>
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like a great idea. That ought to get good mileage if anything does. If the
new TJ's don't have the diesel or a soft-top, and you end up looking at an
existing TJ, I tend to think you will like the 2.4 motor, as your 2000
should have a 2.5. I consider the new motor an improvement, but that is
just my opinion.
But man, that diesel with about 300 lb/ft of torque in the TJ would make a
great vehicle. I have driven that motor in a Liberty, and the power and
smoothness is excellent, and the noise is not that bad either. You notice it
is a diesel at idle, but it is not very loud. Out on the road, I personally
didn't notice it being any louder than its gas counterparts. In then end my
wife settled for a 3.7 gas motor, but that diesel would have been my
preference.
If they put that motor in the Wranglers, I am going to have to come up with
a real good excuse to explain to my wife why I need to trade for one....
:-)
Bryan
"ElAlumbrado" <elNOSPAMalumbrado@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:d58fc$42818731$943f9512$1767@STARBAND.NET...
>
> Bryan, I've got a 2000 TJ. It is definitely not a highway vehicle. I live
> on a ranch in Texas, so my TJ probably spends more time off-pavement than
> most (in fact, it is rarely used on-pavement). For fence running or
> pasture bashing it's a fine little ATV substitute, able to haul 2 people
> and some tools pretty comfortably into some places that might be too tight
> for a 4x4 pickup. My Wrangler even has the ubiquitous "West Texas
> Pinstriping" common to working Jeeps in this part of the country, applied
> by running it too close to a barb-wire fence. I also pull it around behind
> my RV from time to time, and it makes a great vehicle for touring National
> Parks and Forests. It would probably even make a good in-town runabout, if
> there was a town anywhere nearby that I needed to run about. But it is a
> miserable thing to drive on the highway. Since getting from here to
> anywhere means a pretty good drive down the highway, the Jeep usually gets
> left at home.
>
> I was waiting to see what the next generation looks like before buying a
> new Jeep, as I like the idea of a diesel 4-door Wrangler. But, if the new
> Wrangler will not be offered with a soft top, as rumors seem to indicate,
> then I'll buy one of the last TJ's I can get my hands on before production
> stops (or just re-power the one I already have). A hard top Jeep with
> doors is of no use to me. I'd buy another 4x4 pickup or Suburban if I
> needed an enclosed vehicle. But aside from an ATV or a horse, there is no
> substitute for an open Jeep. As all-purpose vehicles they have their
> flaws, but I just can't understand why anybody would ride a horse when
> they could be driving a Jeep.
>
>
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