Is 2.4 I4 really enough for a Wrangler?
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Re: Is 2.4 I4 really enough for a Wrangler?
Hey ElAlumbrado, is yours a 2.5 or a 2.4?
YJ or TJ?
The YJ's with the 2.5 I have been in ran reasonably well and the owners
report decent mileage.
The TJ's I have driven with the 2.5 are as you describe, or worse, and would
barely pull themselves down the road.
Are the YJ 2.5 motors better/different than the TJ motors?
If you have a 2.5, at least test drive a new 2.4 and see what you think.
Big difference in my opinion.
I test drove and passed 3 times on a 4 cyl. TJ. Drove the 2.4 six-speed and
bought it on the spot.
Bryan
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> Geez, I must have a factory reject. I can't even reach 70 on a flat road.
> And my gas mileage has never been more than mid teens.
>
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Re: Is 2.4 I4 really enough for a Wrangler?
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> More than enough power... haven't taken it much above 85 mph, but it feels
> like it could do it... of course I live in North Eastern Ohio, which is
> VERY Flat... don't have to climb many hills... the power band is a bit
> high for my comfort, you have to take it to 4500 RPM to really get any
> real performance out of the 2.4... and overtaking another vehicle at
> 65mph can take you a while... I tried to see if I could get better mpg by
> shifting down to 4th when I noticed I was mashing the pedal in 5th, but
> doing that showed me no increase in mpg...
I am familiar with Ohio, and I can see where the 2.4 would do great. Here
in WV it is up and down, but the TJ holds OK if I anticipate a little and
grab a gear.
Yeah, your are right, got to rev it a little, but mine will cruise along
pretty nicely around 2000 rpm unless I hit a reasonably steep grade.
Overtaking other vehicles? TJ's will do that? Just kidding. Passed a
couple vehicles, but passing lanes in WV are short, sudden, and deadly if
you don't move quick. I have passed a couple vehicles, and was glad to be
able to wind it out in 3rd so far, and it did OK.
It is funny you mentioned downshifting vs. heavy throttle in a higher gear.
Doesn't change my mpg much either. So I tend to run it wherever it feels
happiest. On roads where the usually speed dips below 55, I tend to just
run it in 5th.
The 2.4 also pulls my 10ft. utility trailer right along. So for my needs,
so far, so good.
Bryan
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Re: Is 2.4 I4 really enough for a Wrangler?
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> More than enough power... haven't taken it much above 85 mph, but it feels
> like it could do it... of course I live in North Eastern Ohio, which is
> VERY Flat... don't have to climb many hills... the power band is a bit
> high for my comfort, you have to take it to 4500 RPM to really get any
> real performance out of the 2.4... and overtaking another vehicle at
> 65mph can take you a while... I tried to see if I could get better mpg by
> shifting down to 4th when I noticed I was mashing the pedal in 5th, but
> doing that showed me no increase in mpg...
I am familiar with Ohio, and I can see where the 2.4 would do great. Here
in WV it is up and down, but the TJ holds OK if I anticipate a little and
grab a gear.
Yeah, your are right, got to rev it a little, but mine will cruise along
pretty nicely around 2000 rpm unless I hit a reasonably steep grade.
Overtaking other vehicles? TJ's will do that? Just kidding. Passed a
couple vehicles, but passing lanes in WV are short, sudden, and deadly if
you don't move quick. I have passed a couple vehicles, and was glad to be
able to wind it out in 3rd so far, and it did OK.
It is funny you mentioned downshifting vs. heavy throttle in a higher gear.
Doesn't change my mpg much either. So I tend to run it wherever it feels
happiest. On roads where the usually speed dips below 55, I tend to just
run it in 5th.
The 2.4 also pulls my 10ft. utility trailer right along. So for my needs,
so far, so good.
Bryan
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Re: Is 2.4 I4 really enough for a Wrangler?
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> More than enough power... haven't taken it much above 85 mph, but it feels
> like it could do it... of course I live in North Eastern Ohio, which is
> VERY Flat... don't have to climb many hills... the power band is a bit
> high for my comfort, you have to take it to 4500 RPM to really get any
> real performance out of the 2.4... and overtaking another vehicle at
> 65mph can take you a while... I tried to see if I could get better mpg by
> shifting down to 4th when I noticed I was mashing the pedal in 5th, but
> doing that showed me no increase in mpg...
I am familiar with Ohio, and I can see where the 2.4 would do great. Here
in WV it is up and down, but the TJ holds OK if I anticipate a little and
grab a gear.
Yeah, your are right, got to rev it a little, but mine will cruise along
pretty nicely around 2000 rpm unless I hit a reasonably steep grade.
Overtaking other vehicles? TJ's will do that? Just kidding. Passed a
couple vehicles, but passing lanes in WV are short, sudden, and deadly if
you don't move quick. I have passed a couple vehicles, and was glad to be
able to wind it out in 3rd so far, and it did OK.
It is funny you mentioned downshifting vs. heavy throttle in a higher gear.
Doesn't change my mpg much either. So I tend to run it wherever it feels
happiest. On roads where the usually speed dips below 55, I tend to just
run it in 5th.
The 2.4 also pulls my 10ft. utility trailer right along. So for my needs,
so far, so good.
Bryan
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Re: Is 2.4 I4 really enough for a Wrangler?
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> More than enough power... haven't taken it much above 85 mph, but it feels
> like it could do it... of course I live in North Eastern Ohio, which is
> VERY Flat... don't have to climb many hills... the power band is a bit
> high for my comfort, you have to take it to 4500 RPM to really get any
> real performance out of the 2.4... and overtaking another vehicle at
> 65mph can take you a while... I tried to see if I could get better mpg by
> shifting down to 4th when I noticed I was mashing the pedal in 5th, but
> doing that showed me no increase in mpg...
I am familiar with Ohio, and I can see where the 2.4 would do great. Here
in WV it is up and down, but the TJ holds OK if I anticipate a little and
grab a gear.
Yeah, your are right, got to rev it a little, but mine will cruise along
pretty nicely around 2000 rpm unless I hit a reasonably steep grade.
Overtaking other vehicles? TJ's will do that? Just kidding. Passed a
couple vehicles, but passing lanes in WV are short, sudden, and deadly if
you don't move quick. I have passed a couple vehicles, and was glad to be
able to wind it out in 3rd so far, and it did OK.
It is funny you mentioned downshifting vs. heavy throttle in a higher gear.
Doesn't change my mpg much either. So I tend to run it wherever it feels
happiest. On roads where the usually speed dips below 55, I tend to just
run it in 5th.
The 2.4 also pulls my 10ft. utility trailer right along. So for my needs,
so far, so good.
Bryan
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Re: Is 2.4 I4 really enough for a Wrangler?
"Bryan" <frametype@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Hey ElAlumbrado, is yours a 2.5 or a 2.4?
> YJ or TJ?
>
> The YJ's with the 2.5 I have been in ran reasonably well and the
> owners report decent mileage.
> The TJ's I have driven with the 2.5 are as you describe, or worse, and
> would barely pull themselves down the road.
>
> Are the YJ 2.5 motors better/different than the TJ motors?
>
> If you have a 2.5, at least test drive a new 2.4 and see what you
> think. Big difference in my opinion.
> I test drove and passed 3 times on a 4 cyl. TJ. Drove the 2.4
> six-speed and bought it on the spot.
Bryan, I've got a 2000 TJ. It is definitely not a highway vehicle. I
live on a ranch in Texas, so my TJ probably spends more time
off-pavement than most (in fact, it is rarely used on-pavement). For
fence running or pasture bashing it's a fine little ATV substitute, able
to haul 2 people and some tools pretty comfortably into some places that
might be too tight for a 4x4 pickup. My Wrangler even has the ubiquitous
"West Texas Pinstriping" common to working Jeeps in this part of the
country, applied by running it too close to a barb-wire fence. I also
pull it around behind my RV from time to time, and it makes a great
vehicle for touring National Parks and Forests. It would probably even
make a good in-town runabout, if there was a town anywhere nearby that I
needed to run about. But it is a miserable thing to drive on the
highway. Since getting from here to anywhere means a pretty good drive
down the highway, the Jeep usually gets left at home.
I was waiting to see what the next generation looks like before buying a
new Jeep, as I like the idea of a diesel 4-door Wrangler. But, if the
new Wrangler will not be offered with a soft top, as rumors seem to
indicate, then I'll buy one of the last TJ's I can get my hands on
before production stops (or just re-power the one I already have). A
hard top Jeep with doors is of no use to me. I'd buy another 4x4 pickup
or Suburban if I needed an enclosed vehicle. But aside from an ATV or a
horse, there is no substitute for an open Jeep. As all-purpose vehicles
they have their flaws, but I just can't understand why anybody would
ride a horse when they could be driving a Jeep.
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>
> Hey ElAlumbrado, is yours a 2.5 or a 2.4?
> YJ or TJ?
>
> The YJ's with the 2.5 I have been in ran reasonably well and the
> owners report decent mileage.
> The TJ's I have driven with the 2.5 are as you describe, or worse, and
> would barely pull themselves down the road.
>
> Are the YJ 2.5 motors better/different than the TJ motors?
>
> If you have a 2.5, at least test drive a new 2.4 and see what you
> think. Big difference in my opinion.
> I test drove and passed 3 times on a 4 cyl. TJ. Drove the 2.4
> six-speed and bought it on the spot.
Bryan, I've got a 2000 TJ. It is definitely not a highway vehicle. I
live on a ranch in Texas, so my TJ probably spends more time
off-pavement than most (in fact, it is rarely used on-pavement). For
fence running or pasture bashing it's a fine little ATV substitute, able
to haul 2 people and some tools pretty comfortably into some places that
might be too tight for a 4x4 pickup. My Wrangler even has the ubiquitous
"West Texas Pinstriping" common to working Jeeps in this part of the
country, applied by running it too close to a barb-wire fence. I also
pull it around behind my RV from time to time, and it makes a great
vehicle for touring National Parks and Forests. It would probably even
make a good in-town runabout, if there was a town anywhere nearby that I
needed to run about. But it is a miserable thing to drive on the
highway. Since getting from here to anywhere means a pretty good drive
down the highway, the Jeep usually gets left at home.
I was waiting to see what the next generation looks like before buying a
new Jeep, as I like the idea of a diesel 4-door Wrangler. But, if the
new Wrangler will not be offered with a soft top, as rumors seem to
indicate, then I'll buy one of the last TJ's I can get my hands on
before production stops (or just re-power the one I already have). A
hard top Jeep with doors is of no use to me. I'd buy another 4x4 pickup
or Suburban if I needed an enclosed vehicle. But aside from an ATV or a
horse, there is no substitute for an open Jeep. As all-purpose vehicles
they have their flaws, but I just can't understand why anybody would
ride a horse when they could be driving a Jeep.
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Re: Is 2.4 I4 really enough for a Wrangler?
"Bryan" <frametype@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> Hey ElAlumbrado, is yours a 2.5 or a 2.4?
> YJ or TJ?
>
> The YJ's with the 2.5 I have been in ran reasonably well and the
> owners report decent mileage.
> The TJ's I have driven with the 2.5 are as you describe, or worse, and
> would barely pull themselves down the road.
>
> Are the YJ 2.5 motors better/different than the TJ motors?
>
> If you have a 2.5, at least test drive a new 2.4 and see what you
> think. Big difference in my opinion.
> I test drove and passed 3 times on a 4 cyl. TJ. Drove the 2.4
> six-speed and bought it on the spot.
Bryan, I've got a 2000 TJ. It is definitely not a highway vehicle. I
live on a ranch in Texas, so my TJ probably spends more time
off-pavement than most (in fact, it is rarely used on-pavement). For
fence running or pasture bashing it's a fine little ATV substitute, able
to haul 2 people and some tools pretty comfortably into some places that
might be too tight for a 4x4 pickup. My Wrangler even has the ubiquitous
"West Texas Pinstriping" common to working Jeeps in this part of the
country, applied by running it too close to a barb-wire fence. I also
pull it around behind my RV from time to time, and it makes a great
vehicle for touring National Parks and Forests. It would probably even
make a good in-town runabout, if there was a town anywhere nearby that I
needed to run about. But it is a miserable thing to drive on the
highway. Since getting from here to anywhere means a pretty good drive
down the highway, the Jeep usually gets left at home.
I was waiting to see what the next generation looks like before buying a
new Jeep, as I like the idea of a diesel 4-door Wrangler. But, if the
new Wrangler will not be offered with a soft top, as rumors seem to
indicate, then I'll buy one of the last TJ's I can get my hands on
before production stops (or just re-power the one I already have). A
hard top Jeep with doors is of no use to me. I'd buy another 4x4 pickup
or Suburban if I needed an enclosed vehicle. But aside from an ATV or a
horse, there is no substitute for an open Jeep. As all-purpose vehicles
they have their flaws, but I just can't understand why anybody would
ride a horse when they could be driving a Jeep.
news:42814621$1_2@spool9-west.superfeed.net...
>
> Hey ElAlumbrado, is yours a 2.5 or a 2.4?
> YJ or TJ?
>
> The YJ's with the 2.5 I have been in ran reasonably well and the
> owners report decent mileage.
> The TJ's I have driven with the 2.5 are as you describe, or worse, and
> would barely pull themselves down the road.
>
> Are the YJ 2.5 motors better/different than the TJ motors?
>
> If you have a 2.5, at least test drive a new 2.4 and see what you
> think. Big difference in my opinion.
> I test drove and passed 3 times on a 4 cyl. TJ. Drove the 2.4
> six-speed and bought it on the spot.
Bryan, I've got a 2000 TJ. It is definitely not a highway vehicle. I
live on a ranch in Texas, so my TJ probably spends more time
off-pavement than most (in fact, it is rarely used on-pavement). For
fence running or pasture bashing it's a fine little ATV substitute, able
to haul 2 people and some tools pretty comfortably into some places that
might be too tight for a 4x4 pickup. My Wrangler even has the ubiquitous
"West Texas Pinstriping" common to working Jeeps in this part of the
country, applied by running it too close to a barb-wire fence. I also
pull it around behind my RV from time to time, and it makes a great
vehicle for touring National Parks and Forests. It would probably even
make a good in-town runabout, if there was a town anywhere nearby that I
needed to run about. But it is a miserable thing to drive on the
highway. Since getting from here to anywhere means a pretty good drive
down the highway, the Jeep usually gets left at home.
I was waiting to see what the next generation looks like before buying a
new Jeep, as I like the idea of a diesel 4-door Wrangler. But, if the
new Wrangler will not be offered with a soft top, as rumors seem to
indicate, then I'll buy one of the last TJ's I can get my hands on
before production stops (or just re-power the one I already have). A
hard top Jeep with doors is of no use to me. I'd buy another 4x4 pickup
or Suburban if I needed an enclosed vehicle. But aside from an ATV or a
horse, there is no substitute for an open Jeep. As all-purpose vehicles
they have their flaws, but I just can't understand why anybody would
ride a horse when they could be driving a Jeep.
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Re: Is 2.4 I4 really enough for a Wrangler?
"Bryan" <frametype@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> Hey ElAlumbrado, is yours a 2.5 or a 2.4?
> YJ or TJ?
>
> The YJ's with the 2.5 I have been in ran reasonably well and the
> owners report decent mileage.
> The TJ's I have driven with the 2.5 are as you describe, or worse, and
> would barely pull themselves down the road.
>
> Are the YJ 2.5 motors better/different than the TJ motors?
>
> If you have a 2.5, at least test drive a new 2.4 and see what you
> think. Big difference in my opinion.
> I test drove and passed 3 times on a 4 cyl. TJ. Drove the 2.4
> six-speed and bought it on the spot.
Bryan, I've got a 2000 TJ. It is definitely not a highway vehicle. I
live on a ranch in Texas, so my TJ probably spends more time
off-pavement than most (in fact, it is rarely used on-pavement). For
fence running or pasture bashing it's a fine little ATV substitute, able
to haul 2 people and some tools pretty comfortably into some places that
might be too tight for a 4x4 pickup. My Wrangler even has the ubiquitous
"West Texas Pinstriping" common to working Jeeps in this part of the
country, applied by running it too close to a barb-wire fence. I also
pull it around behind my RV from time to time, and it makes a great
vehicle for touring National Parks and Forests. It would probably even
make a good in-town runabout, if there was a town anywhere nearby that I
needed to run about. But it is a miserable thing to drive on the
highway. Since getting from here to anywhere means a pretty good drive
down the highway, the Jeep usually gets left at home.
I was waiting to see what the next generation looks like before buying a
new Jeep, as I like the idea of a diesel 4-door Wrangler. But, if the
new Wrangler will not be offered with a soft top, as rumors seem to
indicate, then I'll buy one of the last TJ's I can get my hands on
before production stops (or just re-power the one I already have). A
hard top Jeep with doors is of no use to me. I'd buy another 4x4 pickup
or Suburban if I needed an enclosed vehicle. But aside from an ATV or a
horse, there is no substitute for an open Jeep. As all-purpose vehicles
they have their flaws, but I just can't understand why anybody would
ride a horse when they could be driving a Jeep.
news:42814621$1_2@spool9-west.superfeed.net...
>
> Hey ElAlumbrado, is yours a 2.5 or a 2.4?
> YJ or TJ?
>
> The YJ's with the 2.5 I have been in ran reasonably well and the
> owners report decent mileage.
> The TJ's I have driven with the 2.5 are as you describe, or worse, and
> would barely pull themselves down the road.
>
> Are the YJ 2.5 motors better/different than the TJ motors?
>
> If you have a 2.5, at least test drive a new 2.4 and see what you
> think. Big difference in my opinion.
> I test drove and passed 3 times on a 4 cyl. TJ. Drove the 2.4
> six-speed and bought it on the spot.
Bryan, I've got a 2000 TJ. It is definitely not a highway vehicle. I
live on a ranch in Texas, so my TJ probably spends more time
off-pavement than most (in fact, it is rarely used on-pavement). For
fence running or pasture bashing it's a fine little ATV substitute, able
to haul 2 people and some tools pretty comfortably into some places that
might be too tight for a 4x4 pickup. My Wrangler even has the ubiquitous
"West Texas Pinstriping" common to working Jeeps in this part of the
country, applied by running it too close to a barb-wire fence. I also
pull it around behind my RV from time to time, and it makes a great
vehicle for touring National Parks and Forests. It would probably even
make a good in-town runabout, if there was a town anywhere nearby that I
needed to run about. But it is a miserable thing to drive on the
highway. Since getting from here to anywhere means a pretty good drive
down the highway, the Jeep usually gets left at home.
I was waiting to see what the next generation looks like before buying a
new Jeep, as I like the idea of a diesel 4-door Wrangler. But, if the
new Wrangler will not be offered with a soft top, as rumors seem to
indicate, then I'll buy one of the last TJ's I can get my hands on
before production stops (or just re-power the one I already have). A
hard top Jeep with doors is of no use to me. I'd buy another 4x4 pickup
or Suburban if I needed an enclosed vehicle. But aside from an ATV or a
horse, there is no substitute for an open Jeep. As all-purpose vehicles
they have their flaws, but I just can't understand why anybody would
ride a horse when they could be driving a Jeep.
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Re: Is 2.4 I4 really enough for a Wrangler?
"Bryan" <frametype@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> Hey ElAlumbrado, is yours a 2.5 or a 2.4?
> YJ or TJ?
>
> The YJ's with the 2.5 I have been in ran reasonably well and the
> owners report decent mileage.
> The TJ's I have driven with the 2.5 are as you describe, or worse, and
> would barely pull themselves down the road.
>
> Are the YJ 2.5 motors better/different than the TJ motors?
>
> If you have a 2.5, at least test drive a new 2.4 and see what you
> think. Big difference in my opinion.
> I test drove and passed 3 times on a 4 cyl. TJ. Drove the 2.4
> six-speed and bought it on the spot.
Bryan, I've got a 2000 TJ. It is definitely not a highway vehicle. I
live on a ranch in Texas, so my TJ probably spends more time
off-pavement than most (in fact, it is rarely used on-pavement). For
fence running or pasture bashing it's a fine little ATV substitute, able
to haul 2 people and some tools pretty comfortably into some places that
might be too tight for a 4x4 pickup. My Wrangler even has the ubiquitous
"West Texas Pinstriping" common to working Jeeps in this part of the
country, applied by running it too close to a barb-wire fence. I also
pull it around behind my RV from time to time, and it makes a great
vehicle for touring National Parks and Forests. It would probably even
make a good in-town runabout, if there was a town anywhere nearby that I
needed to run about. But it is a miserable thing to drive on the
highway. Since getting from here to anywhere means a pretty good drive
down the highway, the Jeep usually gets left at home.
I was waiting to see what the next generation looks like before buying a
new Jeep, as I like the idea of a diesel 4-door Wrangler. But, if the
new Wrangler will not be offered with a soft top, as rumors seem to
indicate, then I'll buy one of the last TJ's I can get my hands on
before production stops (or just re-power the one I already have). A
hard top Jeep with doors is of no use to me. I'd buy another 4x4 pickup
or Suburban if I needed an enclosed vehicle. But aside from an ATV or a
horse, there is no substitute for an open Jeep. As all-purpose vehicles
they have their flaws, but I just can't understand why anybody would
ride a horse when they could be driving a Jeep.
news:42814621$1_2@spool9-west.superfeed.net...
>
> Hey ElAlumbrado, is yours a 2.5 or a 2.4?
> YJ or TJ?
>
> The YJ's with the 2.5 I have been in ran reasonably well and the
> owners report decent mileage.
> The TJ's I have driven with the 2.5 are as you describe, or worse, and
> would barely pull themselves down the road.
>
> Are the YJ 2.5 motors better/different than the TJ motors?
>
> If you have a 2.5, at least test drive a new 2.4 and see what you
> think. Big difference in my opinion.
> I test drove and passed 3 times on a 4 cyl. TJ. Drove the 2.4
> six-speed and bought it on the spot.
Bryan, I've got a 2000 TJ. It is definitely not a highway vehicle. I
live on a ranch in Texas, so my TJ probably spends more time
off-pavement than most (in fact, it is rarely used on-pavement). For
fence running or pasture bashing it's a fine little ATV substitute, able
to haul 2 people and some tools pretty comfortably into some places that
might be too tight for a 4x4 pickup. My Wrangler even has the ubiquitous
"West Texas Pinstriping" common to working Jeeps in this part of the
country, applied by running it too close to a barb-wire fence. I also
pull it around behind my RV from time to time, and it makes a great
vehicle for touring National Parks and Forests. It would probably even
make a good in-town runabout, if there was a town anywhere nearby that I
needed to run about. But it is a miserable thing to drive on the
highway. Since getting from here to anywhere means a pretty good drive
down the highway, the Jeep usually gets left at home.
I was waiting to see what the next generation looks like before buying a
new Jeep, as I like the idea of a diesel 4-door Wrangler. But, if the
new Wrangler will not be offered with a soft top, as rumors seem to
indicate, then I'll buy one of the last TJ's I can get my hands on
before production stops (or just re-power the one I already have). A
hard top Jeep with doors is of no use to me. I'd buy another 4x4 pickup
or Suburban if I needed an enclosed vehicle. But aside from an ATV or a
horse, there is no substitute for an open Jeep. As all-purpose vehicles
they have their flaws, but I just can't understand why anybody would
ride a horse when they could be driving a Jeep.
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Re: Is 2.4 I4 really enough for a Wrangler?
It sounds like you have a smart plan. The diesel in a Wrangler does sound
like a great idea. That ought to get good mileage if anything does. If the
new TJ's don't have the diesel or a soft-top, and you end up looking at an
existing TJ, I tend to think you will like the 2.4 motor, as your 2000
should have a 2.5. I consider the new motor an improvement, but that is
just my opinion.
But man, that diesel with about 300 lb/ft of torque in the TJ would make a
great vehicle. I have driven that motor in a Liberty, and the power and
smoothness is excellent, and the noise is not that bad either. You notice it
is a diesel at idle, but it is not very loud. Out on the road, I personally
didn't notice it being any louder than its gas counterparts. In then end my
wife settled for a 3.7 gas motor, but that diesel would have been my
preference.
If they put that motor in the Wranglers, I am going to have to come up with
a real good excuse to explain to my wife why I need to trade for one....
:-)
Bryan
"ElAlumbrado" <elNOSPAMalumbrado@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> Bryan, I've got a 2000 TJ. It is definitely not a highway vehicle. I live
> on a ranch in Texas, so my TJ probably spends more time off-pavement than
> most (in fact, it is rarely used on-pavement). For fence running or
> pasture bashing it's a fine little ATV substitute, able to haul 2 people
> and some tools pretty comfortably into some places that might be too tight
> for a 4x4 pickup. My Wrangler even has the ubiquitous "West Texas
> Pinstriping" common to working Jeeps in this part of the country, applied
> by running it too close to a barb-wire fence. I also pull it around behind
> my RV from time to time, and it makes a great vehicle for touring National
> Parks and Forests. It would probably even make a good in-town runabout, if
> there was a town anywhere nearby that I needed to run about. But it is a
> miserable thing to drive on the highway. Since getting from here to
> anywhere means a pretty good drive down the highway, the Jeep usually gets
> left at home.
>
> I was waiting to see what the next generation looks like before buying a
> new Jeep, as I like the idea of a diesel 4-door Wrangler. But, if the new
> Wrangler will not be offered with a soft top, as rumors seem to indicate,
> then I'll buy one of the last TJ's I can get my hands on before production
> stops (or just re-power the one I already have). A hard top Jeep with
> doors is of no use to me. I'd buy another 4x4 pickup or Suburban if I
> needed an enclosed vehicle. But aside from an ATV or a horse, there is no
> substitute for an open Jeep. As all-purpose vehicles they have their
> flaws, but I just can't understand why anybody would ride a horse when
> they could be driving a Jeep.
>
>
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like a great idea. That ought to get good mileage if anything does. If the
new TJ's don't have the diesel or a soft-top, and you end up looking at an
existing TJ, I tend to think you will like the 2.4 motor, as your 2000
should have a 2.5. I consider the new motor an improvement, but that is
just my opinion.
But man, that diesel with about 300 lb/ft of torque in the TJ would make a
great vehicle. I have driven that motor in a Liberty, and the power and
smoothness is excellent, and the noise is not that bad either. You notice it
is a diesel at idle, but it is not very loud. Out on the road, I personally
didn't notice it being any louder than its gas counterparts. In then end my
wife settled for a 3.7 gas motor, but that diesel would have been my
preference.
If they put that motor in the Wranglers, I am going to have to come up with
a real good excuse to explain to my wife why I need to trade for one....
:-)
Bryan
"ElAlumbrado" <elNOSPAMalumbrado@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> Bryan, I've got a 2000 TJ. It is definitely not a highway vehicle. I live
> on a ranch in Texas, so my TJ probably spends more time off-pavement than
> most (in fact, it is rarely used on-pavement). For fence running or
> pasture bashing it's a fine little ATV substitute, able to haul 2 people
> and some tools pretty comfortably into some places that might be too tight
> for a 4x4 pickup. My Wrangler even has the ubiquitous "West Texas
> Pinstriping" common to working Jeeps in this part of the country, applied
> by running it too close to a barb-wire fence. I also pull it around behind
> my RV from time to time, and it makes a great vehicle for touring National
> Parks and Forests. It would probably even make a good in-town runabout, if
> there was a town anywhere nearby that I needed to run about. But it is a
> miserable thing to drive on the highway. Since getting from here to
> anywhere means a pretty good drive down the highway, the Jeep usually gets
> left at home.
>
> I was waiting to see what the next generation looks like before buying a
> new Jeep, as I like the idea of a diesel 4-door Wrangler. But, if the new
> Wrangler will not be offered with a soft top, as rumors seem to indicate,
> then I'll buy one of the last TJ's I can get my hands on before production
> stops (or just re-power the one I already have). A hard top Jeep with
> doors is of no use to me. I'd buy another 4x4 pickup or Suburban if I
> needed an enclosed vehicle. But aside from an ATV or a horse, there is no
> substitute for an open Jeep. As all-purpose vehicles they have their
> flaws, but I just can't understand why anybody would ride a horse when
> they could be driving a Jeep.
>
>
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