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"Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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>> the scientists youre quoting have not made their statements absolute!
>
> No scientist will. That's not how science works.
horseshit. look up nuclear fusion and youll find its an absolute science
because its been proven.
> I have a college degree in science
lol.....some of the most ignorant fools ive ever happened across (lloyd
parker for example) have college degrees. it means jack ----. i dont even
have a high school diploma (i gotta GED before going to tech school) but ill
legally pull in over $80k this year. :-)
> I got the degree
> *after* topping out as a technician...
lol i can assure you that you never "topped out" as a technician. if you
did, lets see some credentials. NATE certification, EPA certification,
SOMETHING to establish you as a top tech. :-)
> I was Chief Site Tech at a $6M
> NRAO VLBA site
that supposed to be impressive? the equipment in this one room alone
http://7slotgrille.com/multimedia/working.wmv is nearly worth that. :-)
> http://www.epa.gov/docs/ozone/science/heavier.html
you left off one key point. ive already dismissed the EPA earlier in this
thread as a self serving ----- who much continually find fault in order to
justify their own existance. please provide me with similar absolute
statements from an authoritative source and ill certainly go into it with an
open mind.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
news:0dSpe.2119$751.985@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com ...
>> the scientists youre quoting have not made their statements absolute!
>
> No scientist will. That's not how science works.
horseshit. look up nuclear fusion and youll find its an absolute science
because its been proven.
> I have a college degree in science
lol.....some of the most ignorant fools ive ever happened across (lloyd
parker for example) have college degrees. it means jack ----. i dont even
have a high school diploma (i gotta GED before going to tech school) but ill
legally pull in over $80k this year. :-)
> I got the degree
> *after* topping out as a technician...
lol i can assure you that you never "topped out" as a technician. if you
did, lets see some credentials. NATE certification, EPA certification,
SOMETHING to establish you as a top tech. :-)
> I was Chief Site Tech at a $6M
> NRAO VLBA site
that supposed to be impressive? the equipment in this one room alone
http://7slotgrille.com/multimedia/working.wmv is nearly worth that. :-)
> http://www.epa.gov/docs/ozone/science/heavier.html
you left off one key point. ive already dismissed the EPA earlier in this
thread as a self serving ----- who much continually find fault in order to
justify their own existance. please provide me with similar absolute
statements from an authoritative source and ill certainly go into it with an
open mind.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
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"Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:0dSpe.2119$751.985@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com ...
>> the scientists youre quoting have not made their statements absolute!
>
> No scientist will. That's not how science works.
horseshit. look up nuclear fusion and youll find its an absolute science
because its been proven.
> I have a college degree in science
lol.....some of the most ignorant fools ive ever happened across (lloyd
parker for example) have college degrees. it means jack ----. i dont even
have a high school diploma (i gotta GED before going to tech school) but ill
legally pull in over $80k this year. :-)
> I got the degree
> *after* topping out as a technician...
lol i can assure you that you never "topped out" as a technician. if you
did, lets see some credentials. NATE certification, EPA certification,
SOMETHING to establish you as a top tech. :-)
> I was Chief Site Tech at a $6M
> NRAO VLBA site
that supposed to be impressive? the equipment in this one room alone
http://7slotgrille.com/multimedia/working.wmv is nearly worth that. :-)
> http://www.epa.gov/docs/ozone/science/heavier.html
you left off one key point. ive already dismissed the EPA earlier in this
thread as a self serving ----- who much continually find fault in order to
justify their own existance. please provide me with similar absolute
statements from an authoritative source and ill certainly go into it with an
open mind.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
news:0dSpe.2119$751.985@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com ...
>> the scientists youre quoting have not made their statements absolute!
>
> No scientist will. That's not how science works.
horseshit. look up nuclear fusion and youll find its an absolute science
because its been proven.
> I have a college degree in science
lol.....some of the most ignorant fools ive ever happened across (lloyd
parker for example) have college degrees. it means jack ----. i dont even
have a high school diploma (i gotta GED before going to tech school) but ill
legally pull in over $80k this year. :-)
> I got the degree
> *after* topping out as a technician...
lol i can assure you that you never "topped out" as a technician. if you
did, lets see some credentials. NATE certification, EPA certification,
SOMETHING to establish you as a top tech. :-)
> I was Chief Site Tech at a $6M
> NRAO VLBA site
that supposed to be impressive? the equipment in this one room alone
http://7slotgrille.com/multimedia/working.wmv is nearly worth that. :-)
> http://www.epa.gov/docs/ozone/science/heavier.html
you left off one key point. ive already dismissed the EPA earlier in this
thread as a self serving ----- who much continually find fault in order to
justify their own existance. please provide me with similar absolute
statements from an authoritative source and ill certainly go into it with an
open mind.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
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"Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:0dSpe.2119$751.985@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com ...
>> the scientists youre quoting have not made their statements absolute!
>
> No scientist will. That's not how science works.
horseshit. look up nuclear fusion and youll find its an absolute science
because its been proven.
> I have a college degree in science
lol.....some of the most ignorant fools ive ever happened across (lloyd
parker for example) have college degrees. it means jack ----. i dont even
have a high school diploma (i gotta GED before going to tech school) but ill
legally pull in over $80k this year. :-)
> I got the degree
> *after* topping out as a technician...
lol i can assure you that you never "topped out" as a technician. if you
did, lets see some credentials. NATE certification, EPA certification,
SOMETHING to establish you as a top tech. :-)
> I was Chief Site Tech at a $6M
> NRAO VLBA site
that supposed to be impressive? the equipment in this one room alone
http://7slotgrille.com/multimedia/working.wmv is nearly worth that. :-)
> http://www.epa.gov/docs/ozone/science/heavier.html
you left off one key point. ive already dismissed the EPA earlier in this
thread as a self serving ----- who much continually find fault in order to
justify their own existance. please provide me with similar absolute
statements from an authoritative source and ill certainly go into it with an
open mind.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
news:0dSpe.2119$751.985@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com ...
>> the scientists youre quoting have not made their statements absolute!
>
> No scientist will. That's not how science works.
horseshit. look up nuclear fusion and youll find its an absolute science
because its been proven.
> I have a college degree in science
lol.....some of the most ignorant fools ive ever happened across (lloyd
parker for example) have college degrees. it means jack ----. i dont even
have a high school diploma (i gotta GED before going to tech school) but ill
legally pull in over $80k this year. :-)
> I got the degree
> *after* topping out as a technician...
lol i can assure you that you never "topped out" as a technician. if you
did, lets see some credentials. NATE certification, EPA certification,
SOMETHING to establish you as a top tech. :-)
> I was Chief Site Tech at a $6M
> NRAO VLBA site
that supposed to be impressive? the equipment in this one room alone
http://7slotgrille.com/multimedia/working.wmv is nearly worth that. :-)
> http://www.epa.gov/docs/ozone/science/heavier.html
you left off one key point. ive already dismissed the EPA earlier in this
thread as a self serving ----- who much continually find fault in order to
justify their own existance. please provide me with similar absolute
statements from an authoritative source and ill certainly go into it with an
open mind.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
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"Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:0dSpe.2119$751.985@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com ...
>> the scientists youre quoting have not made their statements absolute!
>
> No scientist will. That's not how science works.
horseshit. look up nuclear fusion and youll find its an absolute science
because its been proven.
> I have a college degree in science
lol.....some of the most ignorant fools ive ever happened across (lloyd
parker for example) have college degrees. it means jack ----. i dont even
have a high school diploma (i gotta GED before going to tech school) but ill
legally pull in over $80k this year. :-)
> I got the degree
> *after* topping out as a technician...
lol i can assure you that you never "topped out" as a technician. if you
did, lets see some credentials. NATE certification, EPA certification,
SOMETHING to establish you as a top tech. :-)
> I was Chief Site Tech at a $6M
> NRAO VLBA site
that supposed to be impressive? the equipment in this one room alone
http://7slotgrille.com/multimedia/working.wmv is nearly worth that. :-)
> http://www.epa.gov/docs/ozone/science/heavier.html
you left off one key point. ive already dismissed the EPA earlier in this
thread as a self serving ----- who much continually find fault in order to
justify their own existance. please provide me with similar absolute
statements from an authoritative source and ill certainly go into it with an
open mind.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
news:0dSpe.2119$751.985@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com ...
>> the scientists youre quoting have not made their statements absolute!
>
> No scientist will. That's not how science works.
horseshit. look up nuclear fusion and youll find its an absolute science
because its been proven.
> I have a college degree in science
lol.....some of the most ignorant fools ive ever happened across (lloyd
parker for example) have college degrees. it means jack ----. i dont even
have a high school diploma (i gotta GED before going to tech school) but ill
legally pull in over $80k this year. :-)
> I got the degree
> *after* topping out as a technician...
lol i can assure you that you never "topped out" as a technician. if you
did, lets see some credentials. NATE certification, EPA certification,
SOMETHING to establish you as a top tech. :-)
> I was Chief Site Tech at a $6M
> NRAO VLBA site
that supposed to be impressive? the equipment in this one room alone
http://7slotgrille.com/multimedia/working.wmv is nearly worth that. :-)
> http://www.epa.gov/docs/ozone/science/heavier.html
you left off one key point. ive already dismissed the EPA earlier in this
thread as a self serving ----- who much continually find fault in order to
justify their own existance. please provide me with similar absolute
statements from an authoritative source and ill certainly go into it with an
open mind.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
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"Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:AlSpe.2121$751.1390@newssvr30.news.prodigy.co m...
> Why bother? The whole point is, you confused
> Iraq with Afghanistan... just like Bush did.
wrong answer. can you not acknowledge that these young girls are now better
off than before the invasion? can you not acknowledge that its a good thing
they can no longer be raped at will by his sons?
> You bring up young girls raped just to
> try and cloud the issue
NO! i bring it up because its a VALID benefit which you wont even
recognize. that you refuse to recognize it clearly shows your agenda.
--
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http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
news:AlSpe.2121$751.1390@newssvr30.news.prodigy.co m...
> Why bother? The whole point is, you confused
> Iraq with Afghanistan... just like Bush did.
wrong answer. can you not acknowledge that these young girls are now better
off than before the invasion? can you not acknowledge that its a good thing
they can no longer be raped at will by his sons?
> You bring up young girls raped just to
> try and cloud the issue
NO! i bring it up because its a VALID benefit which you wont even
recognize. that you refuse to recognize it clearly shows your agenda.
--
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"Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:AlSpe.2121$751.1390@newssvr30.news.prodigy.co m...
> Why bother? The whole point is, you confused
> Iraq with Afghanistan... just like Bush did.
wrong answer. can you not acknowledge that these young girls are now better
off than before the invasion? can you not acknowledge that its a good thing
they can no longer be raped at will by his sons?
> You bring up young girls raped just to
> try and cloud the issue
NO! i bring it up because its a VALID benefit which you wont even
recognize. that you refuse to recognize it clearly shows your agenda.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
news:AlSpe.2121$751.1390@newssvr30.news.prodigy.co m...
> Why bother? The whole point is, you confused
> Iraq with Afghanistan... just like Bush did.
wrong answer. can you not acknowledge that these young girls are now better
off than before the invasion? can you not acknowledge that its a good thing
they can no longer be raped at will by his sons?
> You bring up young girls raped just to
> try and cloud the issue
NO! i bring it up because its a VALID benefit which you wont even
recognize. that you refuse to recognize it clearly shows your agenda.
--
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http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
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"Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:AlSpe.2121$751.1390@newssvr30.news.prodigy.co m...
> Why bother? The whole point is, you confused
> Iraq with Afghanistan... just like Bush did.
wrong answer. can you not acknowledge that these young girls are now better
off than before the invasion? can you not acknowledge that its a good thing
they can no longer be raped at will by his sons?
> You bring up young girls raped just to
> try and cloud the issue
NO! i bring it up because its a VALID benefit which you wont even
recognize. that you refuse to recognize it clearly shows your agenda.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
news:AlSpe.2121$751.1390@newssvr30.news.prodigy.co m...
> Why bother? The whole point is, you confused
> Iraq with Afghanistan... just like Bush did.
wrong answer. can you not acknowledge that these young girls are now better
off than before the invasion? can you not acknowledge that its a good thing
they can no longer be raped at will by his sons?
> You bring up young girls raped just to
> try and cloud the issue
NO! i bring it up because its a VALID benefit which you wont even
recognize. that you refuse to recognize it clearly shows your agenda.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
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"Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:AlSpe.2121$751.1390@newssvr30.news.prodigy.co m...
> Why bother? The whole point is, you confused
> Iraq with Afghanistan... just like Bush did.
wrong answer. can you not acknowledge that these young girls are now better
off than before the invasion? can you not acknowledge that its a good thing
they can no longer be raped at will by his sons?
> You bring up young girls raped just to
> try and cloud the issue
NO! i bring it up because its a VALID benefit which you wont even
recognize. that you refuse to recognize it clearly shows your agenda.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
news:AlSpe.2121$751.1390@newssvr30.news.prodigy.co m...
> Why bother? The whole point is, you confused
> Iraq with Afghanistan... just like Bush did.
wrong answer. can you not acknowledge that these young girls are now better
off than before the invasion? can you not acknowledge that its a good thing
they can no longer be raped at will by his sons?
> You bring up young girls raped just to
> try and cloud the issue
NO! i bring it up because its a VALID benefit which you wont even
recognize. that you refuse to recognize it clearly shows your agenda.
--
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http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
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"Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
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> "Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:0dSpe.2119$751.985@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com ...
> >> the scientists youre quoting have not made their statements absolute!
> >
> > No scientist will. That's not how science works.
>
> horseshit. look up nuclear fusion and youll find its an absolute science
> because its been proven.
It is a science of probabilities... you can't look at
a nucleus and tell when it will fuse... you have to
go with the probability that it will, given enough
density of radiation. It's that simple...
> > I have a college degree in science
>
> lol.....some of the most ignorant fools ive ever happened across (lloyd
> parker for example) have college degrees. it means jack ----. i dont
even
> have a high school diploma (i gotta GED before going to tech school) but
ill
> legally pull in over $80k this year. :-)
Doesn't make you a scientist, nor a good judge
of one. In fact, the opposite could be argued... : )
I went back to college at age 37, graduated at 40.
It could happen to you....
> > I got the degree
> > *after* topping out as a technician...
>
> lol i can assure you that you never "topped out" as a technician. if you
> did, lets see some credentials. NATE certification, EPA certification,
> SOMETHING to establish you as a top tech. :-)
EPA? Read further down! You have an EPA
cert? How ironic! NATE is an EPA partner...
The ladder is different for electronic techs,
btw.. we don't go through a certification
process.... unless you go for RF. I chose
not to... I do carry an Amateur Extra Class
ham radio license... call sign KI5YG.
I spent the period between 1985-1990 doing
controls field-service on continuous-mix
asphalt plants... USA, then Europe. Probably
spent close to two years in England and
Western Europe.
> > I was Chief Site Tech at a $6M
> > NRAO VLBA site
>
> that supposed to be impressive? the equipment in this one room alone
> http://7slotgrille.com/multimedia/working.wmv is nearly worth that. :-)
Man, that's some boring film! Sorry I couldn't make it
through the whole thing... are you the Site Manager?
How many others on site?
Here's the array I worked with:
http://www.vlba.nrao.edu/
and an antenna tour (all antennas are identical)
http://www.vlba.nrao.edu/antennatour/
Pretty cool place to work... kinda remote, and
like I said, no place to get promoted to. The
only exciting times were when lightning strikes
hit... lots of troubleshooting then! Plenty of
systems to maintain... complete weather station,
cryo systems, DC drives, massive gearboxes,
multiple HVAC systems, generator and switch,
tape drives, Internet connections (in 1992!).
When I said 'topped out', it was not about
money... I got sick of being responsible for
the whole thing, two weeks a month on-call.
I'm much happier as a programmer-engineer...
much happier with the bits and bytes and
chips and transistors.
>
>
> > http://www.epa.gov/docs/ozone/science/heavier.html
>
> you left off one key point. ive already dismissed the EPA earlier in this
> thread as a self serving ----- who much continually find fault in order to
> justify their own existance. please provide me with similar absolute
> statements from an authoritative source and ill certainly go into it with
an
> open mind.
I'm afraid you'll have to attack the message, not the
messenger... the science is well-understood, at least
by those that make a living at it. What about NOAA,
do you hate them too? Can you name one scientific
source that you would trust? You never gave a link
supporting your assertion, btw... that's a little telling,
don't you think?
Here's some more for you to chew on:
http://www.al.noaa.gov/WWWHD/pubdocs/StratO3.html
<>
In the stratosphere, the region of the atmosphere between about 10 and 50
kilometers (6-30 miles) above the Earth's surface, ozone (O3) plays a vital
role by absorbing harmful ultraviolet radiation from the sun. Stratospheric
ozone is threatened by some of the human-made gases that have been released
into the atmosphere, including those known as chlorofluorocarbons (CFCs).
Once widely used as propellants in spray cans, refrigerants, electronics
cleaning agents, and in foam and insulating products, the CFCs had been
hailed as the "wonder chemicals." But the very properties that make them
useful - chemical inertness, non-toxicity, insolubility in water - also make
them resistant to removal in the lower atmosphere.
CFCs are mixed worldwide by the large-scale motions of the atmosphere and
survive until, after 1-2 years, they reach the stratosphere and are broken
down by ultraviolet radiation. The chlorine atoms within them are released
and directly attack ozone. In the process of destroying ozone, the chlorine
atoms are regenerated and begin to attack other ozone molecules... and so
on, for thousands of cycles before the chlorine atoms are removed from the
stratosphere by other processes.
</>
Now you're convinced, certainly!
__
Steve
not holding breath
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