'04 Liberty - Sticky accelerator, anyone else?
10-04-2003, 08:34 PM
#31
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Re: '04 Liberty - Sticky accelerator, anyone else?
L.W. (ßill) ------ III did pass the time by typing:
> Hi Matt,
> Pretty Ford.
> Maybe, they setup your computer differently then the do in
> Kalyfornia. When I lift on my '89 Thunderbird, I can count one thousand
> one, one thousand two, before I stop maintain speed, they are the
> longest two seconds ever, when trying to back off as a California
> Highway Patrol rolls up into clocking position. I've driven the '90, and
psst.. don't tell anyone, but the parking/emergency brake not only slows
you down, it doesn't turn on the brake lites. ;)
Same thing with kicking off OverDrive
But if Officer Friendly has a radar gun, your still busted.
--
DougW
> Hi Matt,
> Pretty Ford.
> Maybe, they setup your computer differently then the do in
> Kalyfornia. When I lift on my '89 Thunderbird, I can count one thousand
> one, one thousand two, before I stop maintain speed, they are the
> longest two seconds ever, when trying to back off as a California
> Highway Patrol rolls up into clocking position. I've driven the '90, and
psst.. don't tell anyone, but the parking/emergency brake not only slows
you down, it doesn't turn on the brake lites. ;)
Same thing with kicking off OverDrive
But if Officer Friendly has a radar gun, your still busted.
--
DougW
10-04-2003, 08:48 PM
#32
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Re: '04 Liberty - Sticky accelerator, anyone else?
In article <3F7F655A.D2D5BD8C@***.net>, L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) ------
III <----------@***.net> writes:
>Pretty Ford.
Thanks, it wasn't red when I had it, it was well-oxidized metallic gold. David
painted it himself and did a pretty good job. Strong engine, but had some carb
issues.
> Maybe, they setup your computer differently then the do in
>Kalyfornia. When I lift on my '89 Thunderbird, I can count one thousand
>one, one thousand two, before I stop maintain speed, they are the
>longest two seconds ever, when trying to back off as a California
>Highway Patrol rolls up into clocking position. I've driven the '90, and
>'91 XJs and '01 Cherokee of my Brother's, same thing.
Weird. In every vehicle with an auto and a tach I've driven, the tach confirms
engine speed lowering when I let off the gas and the lockup torque converter
disengages. IN those w/o a tach, I could hear the engine slow down.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
III <----------@***.net> writes:
>Pretty Ford.
Thanks, it wasn't red when I had it, it was well-oxidized metallic gold. David
painted it himself and did a pretty good job. Strong engine, but had some carb
issues.
> Maybe, they setup your computer differently then the do in
>Kalyfornia. When I lift on my '89 Thunderbird, I can count one thousand
>one, one thousand two, before I stop maintain speed, they are the
>longest two seconds ever, when trying to back off as a California
>Highway Patrol rolls up into clocking position. I've driven the '90, and
>'91 XJs and '01 Cherokee of my Brother's, same thing.
Weird. In every vehicle with an auto and a tach I've driven, the tach confirms
engine speed lowering when I let off the gas and the lockup torque converter
disengages. IN those w/o a tach, I could hear the engine slow down.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
10-04-2003, 08:48 PM
#33
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Re: '04 Liberty - Sticky accelerator, anyone else?
In article <3F7F655A.D2D5BD8C@***.net>, L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) ------
III <----------@***.net> writes:
>Pretty Ford.
Thanks, it wasn't red when I had it, it was well-oxidized metallic gold. David
painted it himself and did a pretty good job. Strong engine, but had some carb
issues.
> Maybe, they setup your computer differently then the do in
>Kalyfornia. When I lift on my '89 Thunderbird, I can count one thousand
>one, one thousand two, before I stop maintain speed, they are the
>longest two seconds ever, when trying to back off as a California
>Highway Patrol rolls up into clocking position. I've driven the '90, and
>'91 XJs and '01 Cherokee of my Brother's, same thing.
Weird. In every vehicle with an auto and a tach I've driven, the tach confirms
engine speed lowering when I let off the gas and the lockup torque converter
disengages. IN those w/o a tach, I could hear the engine slow down.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
III <----------@***.net> writes:
>Pretty Ford.
Thanks, it wasn't red when I had it, it was well-oxidized metallic gold. David
painted it himself and did a pretty good job. Strong engine, but had some carb
issues.
> Maybe, they setup your computer differently then the do in
>Kalyfornia. When I lift on my '89 Thunderbird, I can count one thousand
>one, one thousand two, before I stop maintain speed, they are the
>longest two seconds ever, when trying to back off as a California
>Highway Patrol rolls up into clocking position. I've driven the '90, and
>'91 XJs and '01 Cherokee of my Brother's, same thing.
Weird. In every vehicle with an auto and a tach I've driven, the tach confirms
engine speed lowering when I let off the gas and the lockup torque converter
disengages. IN those w/o a tach, I could hear the engine slow down.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
10-04-2003, 08:48 PM
#34
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Re: '04 Liberty - Sticky accelerator, anyone else?
In article <3F7F655A.D2D5BD8C@***.net>, L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) ------
III <----------@***.net> writes:
>Pretty Ford.
Thanks, it wasn't red when I had it, it was well-oxidized metallic gold. David
painted it himself and did a pretty good job. Strong engine, but had some carb
issues.
> Maybe, they setup your computer differently then the do in
>Kalyfornia. When I lift on my '89 Thunderbird, I can count one thousand
>one, one thousand two, before I stop maintain speed, they are the
>longest two seconds ever, when trying to back off as a California
>Highway Patrol rolls up into clocking position. I've driven the '90, and
>'91 XJs and '01 Cherokee of my Brother's, same thing.
Weird. In every vehicle with an auto and a tach I've driven, the tach confirms
engine speed lowering when I let off the gas and the lockup torque converter
disengages. IN those w/o a tach, I could hear the engine slow down.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
III <----------@***.net> writes:
>Pretty Ford.
Thanks, it wasn't red when I had it, it was well-oxidized metallic gold. David
painted it himself and did a pretty good job. Strong engine, but had some carb
issues.
> Maybe, they setup your computer differently then the do in
>Kalyfornia. When I lift on my '89 Thunderbird, I can count one thousand
>one, one thousand two, before I stop maintain speed, they are the
>longest two seconds ever, when trying to back off as a California
>Highway Patrol rolls up into clocking position. I've driven the '90, and
>'91 XJs and '01 Cherokee of my Brother's, same thing.
Weird. In every vehicle with an auto and a tach I've driven, the tach confirms
engine speed lowering when I let off the gas and the lockup torque converter
disengages. IN those w/o a tach, I could hear the engine slow down.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
10-04-2003, 08:49 PM
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Re: '04 Liberty - Sticky accelerator, anyone else?
Hi Doug,
I do pull it out of overdrive. So far the CHP doesn't use radar, I
think they asked for and got permission a couple of years ago, but don't
have the money to buy them. They have depend on tax payers money, rather
than a piece of the action like your local Sheriffs, and cops in their
speed traps. I don't know about the emergency brake, I hate to have the
rear wheels lock up at eighty five. I had a transfer lockup at fifty
miles and hour, you'd think the rear wheel would stay behind you, but
they don't, I swapped ends so fast! I used to have the fuel contract for
the CHP, lots of stories about how drivers would lose control at the
sight of them.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
DougW wrote:
>
> psst.. don't tell anyone, but the parking/emergency brake not only slows
> you down, it doesn't turn on the brake lites. ;)
>
> Same thing with kicking off OverDrive
>
> But if Officer Friendly has a radar gun, your still busted.
>
> --
> DougW
I do pull it out of overdrive. So far the CHP doesn't use radar, I
think they asked for and got permission a couple of years ago, but don't
have the money to buy them. They have depend on tax payers money, rather
than a piece of the action like your local Sheriffs, and cops in their
speed traps. I don't know about the emergency brake, I hate to have the
rear wheels lock up at eighty five. I had a transfer lockup at fifty
miles and hour, you'd think the rear wheel would stay behind you, but
they don't, I swapped ends so fast! I used to have the fuel contract for
the CHP, lots of stories about how drivers would lose control at the
sight of them.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
DougW wrote:
>
> psst.. don't tell anyone, but the parking/emergency brake not only slows
> you down, it doesn't turn on the brake lites. ;)
>
> Same thing with kicking off OverDrive
>
> But if Officer Friendly has a radar gun, your still busted.
>
> --
> DougW
10-04-2003, 08:49 PM
#36
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Re: '04 Liberty - Sticky accelerator, anyone else?
Hi Doug,
I do pull it out of overdrive. So far the CHP doesn't use radar, I
think they asked for and got permission a couple of years ago, but don't
have the money to buy them. They have depend on tax payers money, rather
than a piece of the action like your local Sheriffs, and cops in their
speed traps. I don't know about the emergency brake, I hate to have the
rear wheels lock up at eighty five. I had a transfer lockup at fifty
miles and hour, you'd think the rear wheel would stay behind you, but
they don't, I swapped ends so fast! I used to have the fuel contract for
the CHP, lots of stories about how drivers would lose control at the
sight of them.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
DougW wrote:
>
> psst.. don't tell anyone, but the parking/emergency brake not only slows
> you down, it doesn't turn on the brake lites. ;)
>
> Same thing with kicking off OverDrive
>
> But if Officer Friendly has a radar gun, your still busted.
>
> --
> DougW
I do pull it out of overdrive. So far the CHP doesn't use radar, I
think they asked for and got permission a couple of years ago, but don't
have the money to buy them. They have depend on tax payers money, rather
than a piece of the action like your local Sheriffs, and cops in their
speed traps. I don't know about the emergency brake, I hate to have the
rear wheels lock up at eighty five. I had a transfer lockup at fifty
miles and hour, you'd think the rear wheel would stay behind you, but
they don't, I swapped ends so fast! I used to have the fuel contract for
the CHP, lots of stories about how drivers would lose control at the
sight of them.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
DougW wrote:
>
> psst.. don't tell anyone, but the parking/emergency brake not only slows
> you down, it doesn't turn on the brake lites. ;)
>
> Same thing with kicking off OverDrive
>
> But if Officer Friendly has a radar gun, your still busted.
>
> --
> DougW
10-04-2003, 08:49 PM
#37
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Re: '04 Liberty - Sticky accelerator, anyone else?
Hi Doug,
I do pull it out of overdrive. So far the CHP doesn't use radar, I
think they asked for and got permission a couple of years ago, but don't
have the money to buy them. They have depend on tax payers money, rather
than a piece of the action like your local Sheriffs, and cops in their
speed traps. I don't know about the emergency brake, I hate to have the
rear wheels lock up at eighty five. I had a transfer lockup at fifty
miles and hour, you'd think the rear wheel would stay behind you, but
they don't, I swapped ends so fast! I used to have the fuel contract for
the CHP, lots of stories about how drivers would lose control at the
sight of them.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
DougW wrote:
>
> psst.. don't tell anyone, but the parking/emergency brake not only slows
> you down, it doesn't turn on the brake lites. ;)
>
> Same thing with kicking off OverDrive
>
> But if Officer Friendly has a radar gun, your still busted.
>
> --
> DougW
I do pull it out of overdrive. So far the CHP doesn't use radar, I
think they asked for and got permission a couple of years ago, but don't
have the money to buy them. They have depend on tax payers money, rather
than a piece of the action like your local Sheriffs, and cops in their
speed traps. I don't know about the emergency brake, I hate to have the
rear wheels lock up at eighty five. I had a transfer lockup at fifty
miles and hour, you'd think the rear wheel would stay behind you, but
they don't, I swapped ends so fast! I used to have the fuel contract for
the CHP, lots of stories about how drivers would lose control at the
sight of them.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
DougW wrote:
>
> psst.. don't tell anyone, but the parking/emergency brake not only slows
> you down, it doesn't turn on the brake lites. ;)
>
> Same thing with kicking off OverDrive
>
> But if Officer Friendly has a radar gun, your still busted.
>
> --
> DougW
10-04-2003, 09:36 PM
#38
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Re: '04 Liberty - Sticky accelerator, anyone else?
I can remember the throttle lift dashpots [mechanical
style] as early as a 1970 Datsun, so don't think these
are california specific. A 1973 fuel injected Porsche
also had a similar function in the control computer and
the 85 Mazda 12A [a california model] still has the mechanical
dashpot for throttle lift. Some of the function on the
Mazda is anti-poopoo for the rotary, but mainly allegedly
for emissions.
Approximately 10/4/03 17:27, L.W.(ßill) ------ III uttered for posterity:
> Hi Matt,
> Pretty Ford.
> Maybe, they setup your computer differently then the do in
> Kalyfornia. When I lift on my '89 Thunderbird, I can count one thousand
> one, one thousand two, before I stop maintain speed, they are the
> longest two seconds ever, when trying to back off as a California
> Highway Patrol rolls up into clocking position. I've driven the '90, and
> '91 XJs and '01 Cherokee of my Brother's, same thing.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>
>> I have. Still do. Cars are more aerodynamic now, that's why they don't
>> decelerate instantly. The Jeep sure does. So does the Super Duty.
>>
>> 20+. Got my driver's license at 14, first car at 16. First car was a '70
>> Torino, my brother's got it now, it was originally his, gave it to me when he
>> got an '84 T-bird Turbo, he got it back a few years later.
>>
>> http://home.triad.rr.com/redsled/torinohome.html
>> * * *
>> Matt Macchiarolo
>> www.townpeddler.com
>> www.wolverine4wd.org
>> http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
10-04-2003, 09:36 PM
#39
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Re: '04 Liberty - Sticky accelerator, anyone else?
I can remember the throttle lift dashpots [mechanical
style] as early as a 1970 Datsun, so don't think these
are california specific. A 1973 fuel injected Porsche
also had a similar function in the control computer and
the 85 Mazda 12A [a california model] still has the mechanical
dashpot for throttle lift. Some of the function on the
Mazda is anti-poopoo for the rotary, but mainly allegedly
for emissions.
Approximately 10/4/03 17:27, L.W.(ßill) ------ III uttered for posterity:
> Hi Matt,
> Pretty Ford.
> Maybe, they setup your computer differently then the do in
> Kalyfornia. When I lift on my '89 Thunderbird, I can count one thousand
> one, one thousand two, before I stop maintain speed, they are the
> longest two seconds ever, when trying to back off as a California
> Highway Patrol rolls up into clocking position. I've driven the '90, and
> '91 XJs and '01 Cherokee of my Brother's, same thing.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>
>> I have. Still do. Cars are more aerodynamic now, that's why they don't
>> decelerate instantly. The Jeep sure does. So does the Super Duty.
>>
>> 20+. Got my driver's license at 14, first car at 16. First car was a '70
>> Torino, my brother's got it now, it was originally his, gave it to me when he
>> got an '84 T-bird Turbo, he got it back a few years later.
>>
>> http://home.triad.rr.com/redsled/torinohome.html
>> * * *
>> Matt Macchiarolo
>> www.townpeddler.com
>> www.wolverine4wd.org
>> http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
10-04-2003, 09:36 PM
#40
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Posts: n/a
Re: '04 Liberty - Sticky accelerator, anyone else?
I can remember the throttle lift dashpots [mechanical
style] as early as a 1970 Datsun, so don't think these
are california specific. A 1973 fuel injected Porsche
also had a similar function in the control computer and
the 85 Mazda 12A [a california model] still has the mechanical
dashpot for throttle lift. Some of the function on the
Mazda is anti-poopoo for the rotary, but mainly allegedly
for emissions.
Approximately 10/4/03 17:27, L.W.(ßill) ------ III uttered for posterity:
> Hi Matt,
> Pretty Ford.
> Maybe, they setup your computer differently then the do in
> Kalyfornia. When I lift on my '89 Thunderbird, I can count one thousand
> one, one thousand two, before I stop maintain speed, they are the
> longest two seconds ever, when trying to back off as a California
> Highway Patrol rolls up into clocking position. I've driven the '90, and
> '91 XJs and '01 Cherokee of my Brother's, same thing.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>
>> I have. Still do. Cars are more aerodynamic now, that's why they don't
>> decelerate instantly. The Jeep sure does. So does the Super Duty.
>>
>> 20+. Got my driver's license at 14, first car at 16. First car was a '70
>> Torino, my brother's got it now, it was originally his, gave it to me when he
>> got an '84 T-bird Turbo, he got it back a few years later.
>>
>> http://home.triad.rr.com/redsled/torinohome.html
>> * * *
>> Matt Macchiarolo
>> www.townpeddler.com
>> www.wolverine4wd.org
>> http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html