'04 Liberty - Sticky accelerator, anyone else?
09-16-2003, 03:05 PM
#1
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'04 Liberty - Sticky accelerator, anyone else?
I just got back from the dealer who said it must be normal. Ugh.
I have an '04 Liberty 3.7L w/automatic. When starting from a dead
stop (I'm talking traffic jam type stop-and-go) and I put just enough
pressure on the gas to make the car move, and instantly let up the
pedal, the engine doesn't return to idle immediately. This causes me
to have to hit the brakes so I'm not propelled into the car in front
of me. The accelerator does eventually drop to a normal idle but it's
between 1.5 to 2 seconds.
Related to this is when driving slowly (5-10 mph) and trying to
maintain a steady speed, the accelerator seems to have just two
states: accelerating or decelerating but not just a steady RPM to
maintain the slow speed.
I just realized that using the accelerator pedal, I can't reach RPMs
between idle and 1100. It's either idling or 1100 RPMs. This seems
to explain the above issues.
Has anyone else seen this?
The service manager let me take another Liberty for a ride and it's
accelerator did the same thing only worse. In some cases, the other
one didn't drop to idle at all after releasing the gas pedal.
Thanks for reading...
Dave
I have an '04 Liberty 3.7L w/automatic. When starting from a dead
stop (I'm talking traffic jam type stop-and-go) and I put just enough
pressure on the gas to make the car move, and instantly let up the
pedal, the engine doesn't return to idle immediately. This causes me
to have to hit the brakes so I'm not propelled into the car in front
of me. The accelerator does eventually drop to a normal idle but it's
between 1.5 to 2 seconds.
Related to this is when driving slowly (5-10 mph) and trying to
maintain a steady speed, the accelerator seems to have just two
states: accelerating or decelerating but not just a steady RPM to
maintain the slow speed.
I just realized that using the accelerator pedal, I can't reach RPMs
between idle and 1100. It's either idling or 1100 RPMs. This seems
to explain the above issues.
Has anyone else seen this?
The service manager let me take another Liberty for a ride and it's
accelerator did the same thing only worse. In some cases, the other
one didn't drop to idle at all after releasing the gas pedal.
Thanks for reading...
Dave
09-16-2003, 03:50 PM
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Re: '04 Liberty - Sticky accelerator, anyone else?
Hi Dave,
I think you've already found out Daimler doesn't care if you dare
to take it off road and your engine decides to pull you over a cliff.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Dave Hansen wrote:
>
> I just got back from the dealer who said it must be normal. Ugh.
>
> I have an '04 Liberty 3.7L w/automatic. When starting from a dead
> stop (I'm talking traffic jam type stop-and-go) and I put just enough
> pressure on the gas to make the car move, and instantly let up the
> pedal, the engine doesn't return to idle immediately. This causes me
> to have to hit the brakes so I'm not propelled into the car in front
> of me. The accelerator does eventually drop to a normal idle but it's
> between 1.5 to 2 seconds.
>
> Related to this is when driving slowly (5-10 mph) and trying to
> maintain a steady speed, the accelerator seems to have just two
> states: accelerating or decelerating but not just a steady RPM to
> maintain the slow speed.
>
> I just realized that using the accelerator pedal, I can't reach RPMs
> between idle and 1100. It's either idling or 1100 RPMs. This seems
> to explain the above issues.
>
> Has anyone else seen this?
>
> The service manager let me take another Liberty for a ride and it's
> accelerator did the same thing only worse. In some cases, the other
> one didn't drop to idle at all after releasing the gas pedal.
>
> Thanks for reading...
> Dave
I think you've already found out Daimler doesn't care if you dare
to take it off road and your engine decides to pull you over a cliff.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Dave Hansen wrote:
>
> I just got back from the dealer who said it must be normal. Ugh.
>
> I have an '04 Liberty 3.7L w/automatic. When starting from a dead
> stop (I'm talking traffic jam type stop-and-go) and I put just enough
> pressure on the gas to make the car move, and instantly let up the
> pedal, the engine doesn't return to idle immediately. This causes me
> to have to hit the brakes so I'm not propelled into the car in front
> of me. The accelerator does eventually drop to a normal idle but it's
> between 1.5 to 2 seconds.
>
> Related to this is when driving slowly (5-10 mph) and trying to
> maintain a steady speed, the accelerator seems to have just two
> states: accelerating or decelerating but not just a steady RPM to
> maintain the slow speed.
>
> I just realized that using the accelerator pedal, I can't reach RPMs
> between idle and 1100. It's either idling or 1100 RPMs. This seems
> to explain the above issues.
>
> Has anyone else seen this?
>
> The service manager let me take another Liberty for a ride and it's
> accelerator did the same thing only worse. In some cases, the other
> one didn't drop to idle at all after releasing the gas pedal.
>
> Thanks for reading...
> Dave
09-16-2003, 03:50 PM
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Re: '04 Liberty - Sticky accelerator, anyone else?
Hi Dave,
I think you've already found out Daimler doesn't care if you dare
to take it off road and your engine decides to pull you over a cliff.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Dave Hansen wrote:
>
> I just got back from the dealer who said it must be normal. Ugh.
>
> I have an '04 Liberty 3.7L w/automatic. When starting from a dead
> stop (I'm talking traffic jam type stop-and-go) and I put just enough
> pressure on the gas to make the car move, and instantly let up the
> pedal, the engine doesn't return to idle immediately. This causes me
> to have to hit the brakes so I'm not propelled into the car in front
> of me. The accelerator does eventually drop to a normal idle but it's
> between 1.5 to 2 seconds.
>
> Related to this is when driving slowly (5-10 mph) and trying to
> maintain a steady speed, the accelerator seems to have just two
> states: accelerating or decelerating but not just a steady RPM to
> maintain the slow speed.
>
> I just realized that using the accelerator pedal, I can't reach RPMs
> between idle and 1100. It's either idling or 1100 RPMs. This seems
> to explain the above issues.
>
> Has anyone else seen this?
>
> The service manager let me take another Liberty for a ride and it's
> accelerator did the same thing only worse. In some cases, the other
> one didn't drop to idle at all after releasing the gas pedal.
>
> Thanks for reading...
> Dave
I think you've already found out Daimler doesn't care if you dare
to take it off road and your engine decides to pull you over a cliff.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Dave Hansen wrote:
>
> I just got back from the dealer who said it must be normal. Ugh.
>
> I have an '04 Liberty 3.7L w/automatic. When starting from a dead
> stop (I'm talking traffic jam type stop-and-go) and I put just enough
> pressure on the gas to make the car move, and instantly let up the
> pedal, the engine doesn't return to idle immediately. This causes me
> to have to hit the brakes so I'm not propelled into the car in front
> of me. The accelerator does eventually drop to a normal idle but it's
> between 1.5 to 2 seconds.
>
> Related to this is when driving slowly (5-10 mph) and trying to
> maintain a steady speed, the accelerator seems to have just two
> states: accelerating or decelerating but not just a steady RPM to
> maintain the slow speed.
>
> I just realized that using the accelerator pedal, I can't reach RPMs
> between idle and 1100. It's either idling or 1100 RPMs. This seems
> to explain the above issues.
>
> Has anyone else seen this?
>
> The service manager let me take another Liberty for a ride and it's
> accelerator did the same thing only worse. In some cases, the other
> one didn't drop to idle at all after releasing the gas pedal.
>
> Thanks for reading...
> Dave
09-17-2003, 07:20 AM
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Re: '04 Liberty - Sticky accelerator, anyone else?
The fancy shmancy computer in the Liberty takes a while to "learn" the
driving habits of the owner. It does go away, but it takes a while. I
tried fixing it by adding a lift and bigger tires!
Daniel
"Dave Hansen" <dave@unidave.com> wrote in message
news:8dcd1f1b.0309161105.40f65f8@posting.google.co m...
> I just got back from the dealer who said it must be normal. Ugh.
>
> I have an '04 Liberty 3.7L w/automatic. When starting from a dead
> stop (I'm talking traffic jam type stop-and-go) and I put just enough
> pressure on the gas to make the car move, and instantly let up the
> pedal, the engine doesn't return to idle immediately. This causes me
> to have to hit the brakes so I'm not propelled into the car in front
> of me. The accelerator does eventually drop to a normal idle but it's
> between 1.5 to 2 seconds.
>
> Related to this is when driving slowly (5-10 mph) and trying to
> maintain a steady speed, the accelerator seems to have just two
> states: accelerating or decelerating but not just a steady RPM to
> maintain the slow speed.
>
> I just realized that using the accelerator pedal, I can't reach RPMs
> between idle and 1100. It's either idling or 1100 RPMs. This seems
> to explain the above issues.
>
> Has anyone else seen this?
>
> The service manager let me take another Liberty for a ride and it's
> accelerator did the same thing only worse. In some cases, the other
> one didn't drop to idle at all after releasing the gas pedal.
>
> Thanks for reading...
> Dave
driving habits of the owner. It does go away, but it takes a while. I
tried fixing it by adding a lift and bigger tires!
Daniel
"Dave Hansen" <dave@unidave.com> wrote in message
news:8dcd1f1b.0309161105.40f65f8@posting.google.co m...
> I just got back from the dealer who said it must be normal. Ugh.
>
> I have an '04 Liberty 3.7L w/automatic. When starting from a dead
> stop (I'm talking traffic jam type stop-and-go) and I put just enough
> pressure on the gas to make the car move, and instantly let up the
> pedal, the engine doesn't return to idle immediately. This causes me
> to have to hit the brakes so I'm not propelled into the car in front
> of me. The accelerator does eventually drop to a normal idle but it's
> between 1.5 to 2 seconds.
>
> Related to this is when driving slowly (5-10 mph) and trying to
> maintain a steady speed, the accelerator seems to have just two
> states: accelerating or decelerating but not just a steady RPM to
> maintain the slow speed.
>
> I just realized that using the accelerator pedal, I can't reach RPMs
> between idle and 1100. It's either idling or 1100 RPMs. This seems
> to explain the above issues.
>
> Has anyone else seen this?
>
> The service manager let me take another Liberty for a ride and it's
> accelerator did the same thing only worse. In some cases, the other
> one didn't drop to idle at all after releasing the gas pedal.
>
> Thanks for reading...
> Dave
09-17-2003, 07:20 AM
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Re: '04 Liberty - Sticky accelerator, anyone else?
The fancy shmancy computer in the Liberty takes a while to "learn" the
driving habits of the owner. It does go away, but it takes a while. I
tried fixing it by adding a lift and bigger tires!
Daniel
"Dave Hansen" <dave@unidave.com> wrote in message
news:8dcd1f1b.0309161105.40f65f8@posting.google.co m...
> I just got back from the dealer who said it must be normal. Ugh.
>
> I have an '04 Liberty 3.7L w/automatic. When starting from a dead
> stop (I'm talking traffic jam type stop-and-go) and I put just enough
> pressure on the gas to make the car move, and instantly let up the
> pedal, the engine doesn't return to idle immediately. This causes me
> to have to hit the brakes so I'm not propelled into the car in front
> of me. The accelerator does eventually drop to a normal idle but it's
> between 1.5 to 2 seconds.
>
> Related to this is when driving slowly (5-10 mph) and trying to
> maintain a steady speed, the accelerator seems to have just two
> states: accelerating or decelerating but not just a steady RPM to
> maintain the slow speed.
>
> I just realized that using the accelerator pedal, I can't reach RPMs
> between idle and 1100. It's either idling or 1100 RPMs. This seems
> to explain the above issues.
>
> Has anyone else seen this?
>
> The service manager let me take another Liberty for a ride and it's
> accelerator did the same thing only worse. In some cases, the other
> one didn't drop to idle at all after releasing the gas pedal.
>
> Thanks for reading...
> Dave
driving habits of the owner. It does go away, but it takes a while. I
tried fixing it by adding a lift and bigger tires!
Daniel
"Dave Hansen" <dave@unidave.com> wrote in message
news:8dcd1f1b.0309161105.40f65f8@posting.google.co m...
> I just got back from the dealer who said it must be normal. Ugh.
>
> I have an '04 Liberty 3.7L w/automatic. When starting from a dead
> stop (I'm talking traffic jam type stop-and-go) and I put just enough
> pressure on the gas to make the car move, and instantly let up the
> pedal, the engine doesn't return to idle immediately. This causes me
> to have to hit the brakes so I'm not propelled into the car in front
> of me. The accelerator does eventually drop to a normal idle but it's
> between 1.5 to 2 seconds.
>
> Related to this is when driving slowly (5-10 mph) and trying to
> maintain a steady speed, the accelerator seems to have just two
> states: accelerating or decelerating but not just a steady RPM to
> maintain the slow speed.
>
> I just realized that using the accelerator pedal, I can't reach RPMs
> between idle and 1100. It's either idling or 1100 RPMs. This seems
> to explain the above issues.
>
> Has anyone else seen this?
>
> The service manager let me take another Liberty for a ride and it's
> accelerator did the same thing only worse. In some cases, the other
> one didn't drop to idle at all after releasing the gas pedal.
>
> Thanks for reading...
> Dave
09-17-2003, 07:55 PM
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Re: '04 Liberty - Sticky accelerator, anyone else?
My '98 5.9 Grand Cherokee has been doing the same thing for five years.
Let's face it: Chrysler has a lot to learn and they're slow as hell about
doing it. Or they just don't care. This will be my last Chrysler vehicle
(for several other reasons).
"Dave Hansen" <dave@unidave.com> wrote in message
news:8dcd1f1b.0309161105.40f65f8@posting.google.co m...
> I just got back from the dealer who said it must be normal. Ugh.
>
> I have an '04 Liberty 3.7L w/automatic. When starting from a dead
> stop (I'm talking traffic jam type stop-and-go) and I put just enough
> pressure on the gas to make the car move, and instantly let up the
> pedal, the engine doesn't return to idle immediately. This causes me
> to have to hit the brakes so I'm not propelled into the car in front
> of me. The accelerator does eventually drop to a normal idle but it's
> between 1.5 to 2 seconds.
>
> Related to this is when driving slowly (5-10 mph) and trying to
> maintain a steady speed, the accelerator seems to have just two
> states: accelerating or decelerating but not just a steady RPM to
> maintain the slow speed.
>
> I just realized that using the accelerator pedal, I can't reach RPMs
> between idle and 1100. It's either idling or 1100 RPMs. This seems
> to explain the above issues.
>
> Has anyone else seen this?
>
> The service manager let me take another Liberty for a ride and it's
> accelerator did the same thing only worse. In some cases, the other
> one didn't drop to idle at all after releasing the gas pedal.
>
> Thanks for reading...
> Dave
Let's face it: Chrysler has a lot to learn and they're slow as hell about
doing it. Or they just don't care. This will be my last Chrysler vehicle
(for several other reasons).
"Dave Hansen" <dave@unidave.com> wrote in message
news:8dcd1f1b.0309161105.40f65f8@posting.google.co m...
> I just got back from the dealer who said it must be normal. Ugh.
>
> I have an '04 Liberty 3.7L w/automatic. When starting from a dead
> stop (I'm talking traffic jam type stop-and-go) and I put just enough
> pressure on the gas to make the car move, and instantly let up the
> pedal, the engine doesn't return to idle immediately. This causes me
> to have to hit the brakes so I'm not propelled into the car in front
> of me. The accelerator does eventually drop to a normal idle but it's
> between 1.5 to 2 seconds.
>
> Related to this is when driving slowly (5-10 mph) and trying to
> maintain a steady speed, the accelerator seems to have just two
> states: accelerating or decelerating but not just a steady RPM to
> maintain the slow speed.
>
> I just realized that using the accelerator pedal, I can't reach RPMs
> between idle and 1100. It's either idling or 1100 RPMs. This seems
> to explain the above issues.
>
> Has anyone else seen this?
>
> The service manager let me take another Liberty for a ride and it's
> accelerator did the same thing only worse. In some cases, the other
> one didn't drop to idle at all after releasing the gas pedal.
>
> Thanks for reading...
> Dave
09-17-2003, 07:55 PM
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Re: '04 Liberty - Sticky accelerator, anyone else?
My '98 5.9 Grand Cherokee has been doing the same thing for five years.
Let's face it: Chrysler has a lot to learn and they're slow as hell about
doing it. Or they just don't care. This will be my last Chrysler vehicle
(for several other reasons).
"Dave Hansen" <dave@unidave.com> wrote in message
news:8dcd1f1b.0309161105.40f65f8@posting.google.co m...
> I just got back from the dealer who said it must be normal. Ugh.
>
> I have an '04 Liberty 3.7L w/automatic. When starting from a dead
> stop (I'm talking traffic jam type stop-and-go) and I put just enough
> pressure on the gas to make the car move, and instantly let up the
> pedal, the engine doesn't return to idle immediately. This causes me
> to have to hit the brakes so I'm not propelled into the car in front
> of me. The accelerator does eventually drop to a normal idle but it's
> between 1.5 to 2 seconds.
>
> Related to this is when driving slowly (5-10 mph) and trying to
> maintain a steady speed, the accelerator seems to have just two
> states: accelerating or decelerating but not just a steady RPM to
> maintain the slow speed.
>
> I just realized that using the accelerator pedal, I can't reach RPMs
> between idle and 1100. It's either idling or 1100 RPMs. This seems
> to explain the above issues.
>
> Has anyone else seen this?
>
> The service manager let me take another Liberty for a ride and it's
> accelerator did the same thing only worse. In some cases, the other
> one didn't drop to idle at all after releasing the gas pedal.
>
> Thanks for reading...
> Dave
Let's face it: Chrysler has a lot to learn and they're slow as hell about
doing it. Or they just don't care. This will be my last Chrysler vehicle
(for several other reasons).
"Dave Hansen" <dave@unidave.com> wrote in message
news:8dcd1f1b.0309161105.40f65f8@posting.google.co m...
> I just got back from the dealer who said it must be normal. Ugh.
>
> I have an '04 Liberty 3.7L w/automatic. When starting from a dead
> stop (I'm talking traffic jam type stop-and-go) and I put just enough
> pressure on the gas to make the car move, and instantly let up the
> pedal, the engine doesn't return to idle immediately. This causes me
> to have to hit the brakes so I'm not propelled into the car in front
> of me. The accelerator does eventually drop to a normal idle but it's
> between 1.5 to 2 seconds.
>
> Related to this is when driving slowly (5-10 mph) and trying to
> maintain a steady speed, the accelerator seems to have just two
> states: accelerating or decelerating but not just a steady RPM to
> maintain the slow speed.
>
> I just realized that using the accelerator pedal, I can't reach RPMs
> between idle and 1100. It's either idling or 1100 RPMs. This seems
> to explain the above issues.
>
> Has anyone else seen this?
>
> The service manager let me take another Liberty for a ride and it's
> accelerator did the same thing only worse. In some cases, the other
> one didn't drop to idle at all after releasing the gas pedal.
>
> Thanks for reading...
> Dave
10-04-2003, 07:08 AM
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Re: '04 Liberty - Sticky accelerator, anyone else?
"Dave Hansen" <dave@unidave.com> wrote in message
news:8dcd1f1b.0309161105.40f65f8@posting.google.co m...
> I just got back from the dealer who said it must be normal. Ugh.
>
> I have an '04 Liberty 3.7L w/automatic. When starting from a dead
> stop (I'm talking traffic jam type stop-and-go) and I put just enough
> pressure on the gas to make the car move, and instantly let up the
> pedal, the engine doesn't return to idle immediately. This causes me
> to have to hit the brakes so I'm not propelled into the car in front
> of me. The accelerator does eventually drop to a normal idle but it's
> between 1.5 to 2 seconds.
>
> Related to this is when driving slowly (5-10 mph) and trying to
> maintain a steady speed, the accelerator seems to have just two
> states: accelerating or decelerating but not just a steady RPM to
> maintain the slow speed.
>
> I just realized that using the accelerator pedal, I can't reach RPMs
> between idle and 1100. It's either idling or 1100 RPMs. This seems
> to explain the above issues.
>
> Has anyone else seen this?
>
> The service manager let me take another Liberty for a ride and it's
> accelerator did the same thing only worse. In some cases, the other
> one didn't drop to idle at all after releasing the gas pedal.
wtf? I have an '03 Liberty Limited and it does *nothing* like this and
never has.
10-04-2003, 07:08 AM
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Re: '04 Liberty - Sticky accelerator, anyone else?
"Dave Hansen" <dave@unidave.com> wrote in message
news:8dcd1f1b.0309161105.40f65f8@posting.google.co m...
> I just got back from the dealer who said it must be normal. Ugh.
>
> I have an '04 Liberty 3.7L w/automatic. When starting from a dead
> stop (I'm talking traffic jam type stop-and-go) and I put just enough
> pressure on the gas to make the car move, and instantly let up the
> pedal, the engine doesn't return to idle immediately. This causes me
> to have to hit the brakes so I'm not propelled into the car in front
> of me. The accelerator does eventually drop to a normal idle but it's
> between 1.5 to 2 seconds.
>
> Related to this is when driving slowly (5-10 mph) and trying to
> maintain a steady speed, the accelerator seems to have just two
> states: accelerating or decelerating but not just a steady RPM to
> maintain the slow speed.
>
> I just realized that using the accelerator pedal, I can't reach RPMs
> between idle and 1100. It's either idling or 1100 RPMs. This seems
> to explain the above issues.
>
> Has anyone else seen this?
>
> The service manager let me take another Liberty for a ride and it's
> accelerator did the same thing only worse. In some cases, the other
> one didn't drop to idle at all after releasing the gas pedal.
wtf? I have an '03 Liberty Limited and it does *nothing* like this and
never has.
10-04-2003, 07:08 AM
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Re: '04 Liberty - Sticky accelerator, anyone else?
"Dave Hansen" <dave@unidave.com> wrote in message
news:8dcd1f1b.0309161105.40f65f8@posting.google.co m...
> I just got back from the dealer who said it must be normal. Ugh.
>
> I have an '04 Liberty 3.7L w/automatic. When starting from a dead
> stop (I'm talking traffic jam type stop-and-go) and I put just enough
> pressure on the gas to make the car move, and instantly let up the
> pedal, the engine doesn't return to idle immediately. This causes me
> to have to hit the brakes so I'm not propelled into the car in front
> of me. The accelerator does eventually drop to a normal idle but it's
> between 1.5 to 2 seconds.
>
> Related to this is when driving slowly (5-10 mph) and trying to
> maintain a steady speed, the accelerator seems to have just two
> states: accelerating or decelerating but not just a steady RPM to
> maintain the slow speed.
>
> I just realized that using the accelerator pedal, I can't reach RPMs
> between idle and 1100. It's either idling or 1100 RPMs. This seems
> to explain the above issues.
>
> Has anyone else seen this?
>
> The service manager let me take another Liberty for a ride and it's
> accelerator did the same thing only worse. In some cases, the other
> one didn't drop to idle at all after releasing the gas pedal.
wtf? I have an '03 Liberty Limited and it does *nothing* like this and
never has.