"AK" <me@false.email.con> wrote in message
news:cl0i1g$v5l$1@news.freedom2surf.net...
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:5HPcd.10775$xb.8262@text.news.blueyonder.co.u k...
> > why dont you give the guy a break until he tells us what the insurance
> > company says ?
>
> Fine - except I don't agree someone saying that the Liberty is inhently
> unsafe - particulalry when the police report says something different
>
for sure, I would assume all Liberties *are* safe (otherwise we would have
heard more about it). In fact, with the Liberty's lower ground clearance, I
could be convinced it is more safe than other Jeeps. What his one was like
is another matter ; he isn't claiming he is a Liberty expert, and you don't
necessarily expect someone to be 100% objective after a highway flip.

Dave

 

"AK" <me@false.email.con> wrote in message
news:cl0i1g$v5l$1@news.freedom2surf.net...
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:5HPcd.10775$xb.8262@text.news.blueyonder.co.u k...
> > why dont you give the guy a break until he tells us what the insurance
> > company says ?
>
> Fine - except I don't agree someone saying that the Liberty is inhently
> unsafe - particulalry when the police report says something different
>
for sure, I would assume all Liberties *are* safe (otherwise we would have
heard more about it). In fact, with the Liberty's lower ground clearance, I
could be convinced it is more safe than other Jeeps. What his one was like
is another matter ; he isn't claiming he is a Liberty expert, and you don't
necessarily expect someone to be 100% objective after a highway flip.

Dave

 

"AK" <me@false.email.con> wrote in message
news:cl0i1g$v5l$1@news.freedom2surf.net...
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:5HPcd.10775$xb.8262@text.news.blueyonder.co.u k...
> > why dont you give the guy a break until he tells us what the insurance
> > company says ?
>
> Fine - except I don't agree someone saying that the Liberty is inhently
> unsafe - particulalry when the police report says something different
>
for sure, I would assume all Liberties *are* safe (otherwise we would have
heard more about it). In fact, with the Liberty's lower ground clearance, I
could be convinced it is more safe than other Jeeps. What his one was like
is another matter ; he isn't claiming he is a Liberty expert, and you don't
necessarily expect someone to be 100% objective after a highway flip.

Dave

 

It is not 'it' that I have problems taking seriously, it's 'you'.

You sir are a liar!

First off you did not come here asking advise, you came asking if anyone
thinks you made a mistake buying it or trading for it long after the
deal was done.

Then you 'sold' it or traded it for a '02 JGCL on 10/10/04, now you have
wrecked it.

Go away.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's


"TechCityPC.com" wrote:
>
> It doesn't matter how serious you take it. The fact remains that I almost
> lost my life because I refused to believe all advise against getting a
> Liberty. If you don't believe me just post your own Liberty question to the
> group regarding Libertys, and you will see all that I saw when I asked about
> the Liberty. Another fact is that a Liberty is not a JEEP. This I learned 2
> ways.1st listen to your pals in the group! 2nd be very careful if you drive
> a Liberty.
>
> --HM
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4172CA11.D5573A20@sympatico.ca...
> >I don't know whether to take you seriously or not....
> >
> > If so, glad you are all right.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> >> "TechCityPC.com" wrote:
> >>
> >> Ok, I lied. I kept that Liberty. It "was" beautiful in and out. So I
> >> couldn't resist keeping it. Well here I am eating crow. To that member
> >> that sent me that message coming down hard on me for getting that
> >> Liberty, I apologize for my response. I was moving in a full patter at
> >> about 55 - 58 mph. I know this because I love to watch how many RPMs
> >> my engine is cycling at certain speeds and road conditions.Anyway like
> >> I said the pattern was full but the traffic flow was great under a
> >> perfectly clear moon lit evening. Riding the center lane I decided I
> >> wanted an ever slower ride home. So I hit the turn signal and merged
> >> right in and as I was completing the lane change I lost total control
> >> of it. Every steering correction I tried only made it worse. Now I
> >> found myself swaying all over the road trying to regain control.
> >> Luckily I hit no one. In the end the mother F*&#ing was on its side
> >> doing the death slide in the middle of a mad traffic and if I recall
> >> correctly it slid for about 5 city blocks. bruised almost my entire
> >> body, broke one wrist and badly injured the other. You would think
> >> that after a catastrophic event like that, that at least the driver's
> >> air bag would deploy. Either way no car should behave like this at
> >> these speeds and road conditions. This I believe is true just as I
> >> believe that Libertys are "NOT!!!" JEEPs! If you own a Liberty you do
> >> not own a true JEEP. 'walks away with head down in shame'
> >>
> >>
> >> --HM
> >>
> >> P.S. sorry bout any grammatical errors and spellings, it's hard to
> >> type with thumbs.

 

It is not 'it' that I have problems taking seriously, it's 'you'.

You sir are a liar!

First off you did not come here asking advise, you came asking if anyone
thinks you made a mistake buying it or trading for it long after the
deal was done.

Then you 'sold' it or traded it for a '02 JGCL on 10/10/04, now you have
wrecked it.

Go away.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's


"TechCityPC.com" wrote:
>
> It doesn't matter how serious you take it. The fact remains that I almost
> lost my life because I refused to believe all advise against getting a
> Liberty. If you don't believe me just post your own Liberty question to the
> group regarding Libertys, and you will see all that I saw when I asked about
> the Liberty. Another fact is that a Liberty is not a JEEP. This I learned 2
> ways.1st listen to your pals in the group! 2nd be very careful if you drive
> a Liberty.
>
> --HM
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4172CA11.D5573A20@sympatico.ca...
> >I don't know whether to take you seriously or not....
> >
> > If so, glad you are all right.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> >> "TechCityPC.com" wrote:
> >>
> >> Ok, I lied. I kept that Liberty. It "was" beautiful in and out. So I
> >> couldn't resist keeping it. Well here I am eating crow. To that member
> >> that sent me that message coming down hard on me for getting that
> >> Liberty, I apologize for my response. I was moving in a full patter at
> >> about 55 - 58 mph. I know this because I love to watch how many RPMs
> >> my engine is cycling at certain speeds and road conditions.Anyway like
> >> I said the pattern was full but the traffic flow was great under a
> >> perfectly clear moon lit evening. Riding the center lane I decided I
> >> wanted an ever slower ride home. So I hit the turn signal and merged
> >> right in and as I was completing the lane change I lost total control
> >> of it. Every steering correction I tried only made it worse. Now I
> >> found myself swaying all over the road trying to regain control.
> >> Luckily I hit no one. In the end the mother F*&#ing was on its side
> >> doing the death slide in the middle of a mad traffic and if I recall
> >> correctly it slid for about 5 city blocks. bruised almost my entire
> >> body, broke one wrist and badly injured the other. You would think
> >> that after a catastrophic event like that, that at least the driver's
> >> air bag would deploy. Either way no car should behave like this at
> >> these speeds and road conditions. This I believe is true just as I
> >> believe that Libertys are "NOT!!!" JEEPs! If you own a Liberty you do
> >> not own a true JEEP. 'walks away with head down in shame'
> >>
> >>
> >> --HM
> >>
> >> P.S. sorry bout any grammatical errors and spellings, it's hard to
> >> type with thumbs.

 

It is not 'it' that I have problems taking seriously, it's 'you'.

You sir are a liar!

First off you did not come here asking advise, you came asking if anyone
thinks you made a mistake buying it or trading for it long after the
deal was done.

Then you 'sold' it or traded it for a '02 JGCL on 10/10/04, now you have
wrecked it.

Go away.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's


"TechCityPC.com" wrote:
>
> It doesn't matter how serious you take it. The fact remains that I almost
> lost my life because I refused to believe all advise against getting a
> Liberty. If you don't believe me just post your own Liberty question to the
> group regarding Libertys, and you will see all that I saw when I asked about
> the Liberty. Another fact is that a Liberty is not a JEEP. This I learned 2
> ways.1st listen to your pals in the group! 2nd be very careful if you drive
> a Liberty.
>
> --HM
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4172CA11.D5573A20@sympatico.ca...
> >I don't know whether to take you seriously or not....
> >
> > If so, glad you are all right.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> >> "TechCityPC.com" wrote:
> >>
> >> Ok, I lied. I kept that Liberty. It "was" beautiful in and out. So I
> >> couldn't resist keeping it. Well here I am eating crow. To that member
> >> that sent me that message coming down hard on me for getting that
> >> Liberty, I apologize for my response. I was moving in a full patter at
> >> about 55 - 58 mph. I know this because I love to watch how many RPMs
> >> my engine is cycling at certain speeds and road conditions.Anyway like
> >> I said the pattern was full but the traffic flow was great under a
> >> perfectly clear moon lit evening. Riding the center lane I decided I
> >> wanted an ever slower ride home. So I hit the turn signal and merged
> >> right in and as I was completing the lane change I lost total control
> >> of it. Every steering correction I tried only made it worse. Now I
> >> found myself swaying all over the road trying to regain control.
> >> Luckily I hit no one. In the end the mother F*&#ing was on its side
> >> doing the death slide in the middle of a mad traffic and if I recall
> >> correctly it slid for about 5 city blocks. bruised almost my entire
> >> body, broke one wrist and badly injured the other. You would think
> >> that after a catastrophic event like that, that at least the driver's
> >> air bag would deploy. Either way no car should behave like this at
> >> these speeds and road conditions. This I believe is true just as I
> >> believe that Libertys are "NOT!!!" JEEPs! If you own a Liberty you do
> >> not own a true JEEP. 'walks away with head down in shame'
> >>
> >>
> >> --HM
> >>
> >> P.S. sorry bout any grammatical errors and spellings, it's hard to
> >> type with thumbs.

 

I told the liar the etc., etc...

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Dave Milne wrote:
>
> No, that was Bill.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
> news:DQPcd.173238$4h7.31324411@twister.nyc.rr.com. ..
> > Where you the one that told me the wheels fall off and etc, etc...?
> >
> > --HM
> >
> > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> > news:9szcd.10305$xb.5132@text.news.blueyonder.co.u k...
> > > bummer, glad you are (semi) ok.
> > >
> > > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> > >
> > > "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
> > > news:gLycd.81439$Ot3.53329@twister.nyc.rr.com...
> > > Ok, I lied. I kept that Liberty.... bruised almost my entire body,
> broke
> > > one wrist and badly injured the other. --HM
> > >
> > >
> >
> >

 

I told the liar the etc., etc...

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Dave Milne wrote:
>
> No, that was Bill.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
> news:DQPcd.173238$4h7.31324411@twister.nyc.rr.com. ..
> > Where you the one that told me the wheels fall off and etc, etc...?
> >
> > --HM
> >
> > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> > news:9szcd.10305$xb.5132@text.news.blueyonder.co.u k...
> > > bummer, glad you are (semi) ok.
> > >
> > > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> > >
> > > "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
> > > news:gLycd.81439$Ot3.53329@twister.nyc.rr.com...
> > > Ok, I lied. I kept that Liberty.... bruised almost my entire body,
> broke
> > > one wrist and badly injured the other. --HM
> > >
> > >
> >
> >

 

I told the liar the etc., etc...

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Dave Milne wrote:
>
> No, that was Bill.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
> news:DQPcd.173238$4h7.31324411@twister.nyc.rr.com. ..
> > Where you the one that told me the wheels fall off and etc, etc...?
> >
> > --HM
> >
> > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> > news:9szcd.10305$xb.5132@text.news.blueyonder.co.u k...
> > > bummer, glad you are (semi) ok.
> > >
> > > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> > >
> > > "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
> > > news:gLycd.81439$Ot3.53329@twister.nyc.rr.com...
> > > Ok, I lied. I kept that Liberty.... bruised almost my entire body,
> broke
> > > one wrist and badly injured the other. --HM
> > >
> > >
> >
> >

 

"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:Y9Qcd.10786$xb.128@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk ...
and you don't
> necessarily expect someone to be 100% objective after a highway flip.
>
> Dave

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