{OT} -- Computer Problem
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Re: {OT} -- Computer Problem -- UPDATE, FIXED (I think)
Earle Horton wrote:
> "noneofyourbusiness" <top.secret@needtoknow.org> wrote in message
> news:25k6r2plclf4t4ea9216gvphp7b7lra6ft@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 09:50:51 -0700, "Earle Horton"
>> <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Gamers don't like the built-in video cards that you get with a lot of
>>> motherboards, because they are "cheap" and not as "gnarly" as a
>>> $300.00 AGP card that comes with its own cooling fan. On the
>>> other hand, you rarely get compatibility problems with built-in cards.
>>>
>>> Earle
>>>
>> On-board video rarely supports the *features* most modern games
>> require...THATS why most gamers don't use on-board video :o
>>
> "Features" = "gnarly". Mike no doubt has a card that requires an
> initialization sequence that is not being done properly by the driver that
> he has installed. In that case, it is trying to emulate everything in
> software, with the results that he has posted. Unless he is actually a
> gamer (rhymes with lamer) I would recommend pitching it in the trash and
> sticking with the old PCI card.
>
> Earle
>
>
Yup, I am not a gamer and my PC has never rocked so fast than with the
straight 4M pci card. It will even multi task for the first time!
I am happy.
I am thinking it might be a monitor issue. It is an NCR with no
available drivers, but still the boot issue... Oh well.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> "noneofyourbusiness" <top.secret@needtoknow.org> wrote in message
> news:25k6r2plclf4t4ea9216gvphp7b7lra6ft@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 09:50:51 -0700, "Earle Horton"
>> <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Gamers don't like the built-in video cards that you get with a lot of
>>> motherboards, because they are "cheap" and not as "gnarly" as a
>>> $300.00 AGP card that comes with its own cooling fan. On the
>>> other hand, you rarely get compatibility problems with built-in cards.
>>>
>>> Earle
>>>
>> On-board video rarely supports the *features* most modern games
>> require...THATS why most gamers don't use on-board video :o
>>
> "Features" = "gnarly". Mike no doubt has a card that requires an
> initialization sequence that is not being done properly by the driver that
> he has installed. In that case, it is trying to emulate everything in
> software, with the results that he has posted. Unless he is actually a
> gamer (rhymes with lamer) I would recommend pitching it in the trash and
> sticking with the old PCI card.
>
> Earle
>
>
Yup, I am not a gamer and my PC has never rocked so fast than with the
straight 4M pci card. It will even multi task for the first time!
I am happy.
I am thinking it might be a monitor issue. It is an NCR with no
available drivers, but still the boot issue... Oh well.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
#362
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Re: {OT} -- Computer Problem -- UPDATE, FIXED (I think)
On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 15:03:05 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:
>Earle Horton wrote:
>> "noneofyourbusiness" <top.secret@needtoknow.org> wrote in message
>> news:25k6r2plclf4t4ea9216gvphp7b7lra6ft@4ax.com...
>>> On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 09:50:51 -0700, "Earle Horton"
>>> <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Gamers don't like the built-in video cards that you get with a lot of
>>>> motherboards, because they are "cheap" and not as "gnarly" as a
>>>> $300.00 AGP card that comes with its own cooling fan. On the
>>>> other hand, you rarely get compatibility problems with built-in cards.
>>>>
>>>> Earle
>>>>
>>> On-board video rarely supports the *features* most modern games
>>> require...THATS why most gamers don't use on-board video :o
>>>
>> "Features" = "gnarly". Mike no doubt has a card that requires an
>> initialization sequence that is not being done properly by the driver that
>> he has installed. In that case, it is trying to emulate everything in
>> software, with the results that he has posted. Unless he is actually a
>> gamer (rhymes with lamer) I would recommend pitching it in the trash and
>> sticking with the old PCI card.
>>
>> Earle
>>
>>
>
> Yup, I am not a gamer and my PC has never rocked so fast than with the
>straight 4M pci card. It will even multi task for the first time!
>
>I am happy.
>
>I am thinking it might be a monitor issue. It is an NCR with no
>available drivers, but still the boot issue... Oh well.
Since it happens during POST, when drivers aren't loaded yet, I'd
suspect a hardware compatiblity issue. Or maybe a problem with the
MB's AGP slot.
Just did a quick Google on your motherboard and came up with this:
http://www.digit-life.com/articles/a...dls/index.html
Near the bottom is a section on Nvidia problems with this MB. May help
if you haven't seen it already.
>
>Mike
>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
wrote:
>Earle Horton wrote:
>> "noneofyourbusiness" <top.secret@needtoknow.org> wrote in message
>> news:25k6r2plclf4t4ea9216gvphp7b7lra6ft@4ax.com...
>>> On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 09:50:51 -0700, "Earle Horton"
>>> <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Gamers don't like the built-in video cards that you get with a lot of
>>>> motherboards, because they are "cheap" and not as "gnarly" as a
>>>> $300.00 AGP card that comes with its own cooling fan. On the
>>>> other hand, you rarely get compatibility problems with built-in cards.
>>>>
>>>> Earle
>>>>
>>> On-board video rarely supports the *features* most modern games
>>> require...THATS why most gamers don't use on-board video :o
>>>
>> "Features" = "gnarly". Mike no doubt has a card that requires an
>> initialization sequence that is not being done properly by the driver that
>> he has installed. In that case, it is trying to emulate everything in
>> software, with the results that he has posted. Unless he is actually a
>> gamer (rhymes with lamer) I would recommend pitching it in the trash and
>> sticking with the old PCI card.
>>
>> Earle
>>
>>
>
> Yup, I am not a gamer and my PC has never rocked so fast than with the
>straight 4M pci card. It will even multi task for the first time!
>
>I am happy.
>
>I am thinking it might be a monitor issue. It is an NCR with no
>available drivers, but still the boot issue... Oh well.
Since it happens during POST, when drivers aren't loaded yet, I'd
suspect a hardware compatiblity issue. Or maybe a problem with the
MB's AGP slot.
Just did a quick Google on your motherboard and came up with this:
http://www.digit-life.com/articles/a...dls/index.html
Near the bottom is a section on Nvidia problems with this MB. May help
if you haven't seen it already.
>
>Mike
>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
#363
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Re: {OT} -- Computer Problem -- UPDATE, FIXED (I think)
On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 15:03:05 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:
>Earle Horton wrote:
>> "noneofyourbusiness" <top.secret@needtoknow.org> wrote in message
>> news:25k6r2plclf4t4ea9216gvphp7b7lra6ft@4ax.com...
>>> On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 09:50:51 -0700, "Earle Horton"
>>> <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Gamers don't like the built-in video cards that you get with a lot of
>>>> motherboards, because they are "cheap" and not as "gnarly" as a
>>>> $300.00 AGP card that comes with its own cooling fan. On the
>>>> other hand, you rarely get compatibility problems with built-in cards.
>>>>
>>>> Earle
>>>>
>>> On-board video rarely supports the *features* most modern games
>>> require...THATS why most gamers don't use on-board video :o
>>>
>> "Features" = "gnarly". Mike no doubt has a card that requires an
>> initialization sequence that is not being done properly by the driver that
>> he has installed. In that case, it is trying to emulate everything in
>> software, with the results that he has posted. Unless he is actually a
>> gamer (rhymes with lamer) I would recommend pitching it in the trash and
>> sticking with the old PCI card.
>>
>> Earle
>>
>>
>
> Yup, I am not a gamer and my PC has never rocked so fast than with the
>straight 4M pci card. It will even multi task for the first time!
>
>I am happy.
>
>I am thinking it might be a monitor issue. It is an NCR with no
>available drivers, but still the boot issue... Oh well.
Since it happens during POST, when drivers aren't loaded yet, I'd
suspect a hardware compatiblity issue. Or maybe a problem with the
MB's AGP slot.
Just did a quick Google on your motherboard and came up with this:
http://www.digit-life.com/articles/a...dls/index.html
Near the bottom is a section on Nvidia problems with this MB. May help
if you haven't seen it already.
>
>Mike
>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
wrote:
>Earle Horton wrote:
>> "noneofyourbusiness" <top.secret@needtoknow.org> wrote in message
>> news:25k6r2plclf4t4ea9216gvphp7b7lra6ft@4ax.com...
>>> On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 09:50:51 -0700, "Earle Horton"
>>> <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Gamers don't like the built-in video cards that you get with a lot of
>>>> motherboards, because they are "cheap" and not as "gnarly" as a
>>>> $300.00 AGP card that comes with its own cooling fan. On the
>>>> other hand, you rarely get compatibility problems with built-in cards.
>>>>
>>>> Earle
>>>>
>>> On-board video rarely supports the *features* most modern games
>>> require...THATS why most gamers don't use on-board video :o
>>>
>> "Features" = "gnarly". Mike no doubt has a card that requires an
>> initialization sequence that is not being done properly by the driver that
>> he has installed. In that case, it is trying to emulate everything in
>> software, with the results that he has posted. Unless he is actually a
>> gamer (rhymes with lamer) I would recommend pitching it in the trash and
>> sticking with the old PCI card.
>>
>> Earle
>>
>>
>
> Yup, I am not a gamer and my PC has never rocked so fast than with the
>straight 4M pci card. It will even multi task for the first time!
>
>I am happy.
>
>I am thinking it might be a monitor issue. It is an NCR with no
>available drivers, but still the boot issue... Oh well.
Since it happens during POST, when drivers aren't loaded yet, I'd
suspect a hardware compatiblity issue. Or maybe a problem with the
MB's AGP slot.
Just did a quick Google on your motherboard and came up with this:
http://www.digit-life.com/articles/a...dls/index.html
Near the bottom is a section on Nvidia problems with this MB. May help
if you haven't seen it already.
>
>Mike
>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
#364
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Re: {OT} -- Computer Problem -- UPDATE, FIXED (I think)
On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 15:03:05 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:
>Earle Horton wrote:
>> "noneofyourbusiness" <top.secret@needtoknow.org> wrote in message
>> news:25k6r2plclf4t4ea9216gvphp7b7lra6ft@4ax.com...
>>> On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 09:50:51 -0700, "Earle Horton"
>>> <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Gamers don't like the built-in video cards that you get with a lot of
>>>> motherboards, because they are "cheap" and not as "gnarly" as a
>>>> $300.00 AGP card that comes with its own cooling fan. On the
>>>> other hand, you rarely get compatibility problems with built-in cards.
>>>>
>>>> Earle
>>>>
>>> On-board video rarely supports the *features* most modern games
>>> require...THATS why most gamers don't use on-board video :o
>>>
>> "Features" = "gnarly". Mike no doubt has a card that requires an
>> initialization sequence that is not being done properly by the driver that
>> he has installed. In that case, it is trying to emulate everything in
>> software, with the results that he has posted. Unless he is actually a
>> gamer (rhymes with lamer) I would recommend pitching it in the trash and
>> sticking with the old PCI card.
>>
>> Earle
>>
>>
>
> Yup, I am not a gamer and my PC has never rocked so fast than with the
>straight 4M pci card. It will even multi task for the first time!
>
>I am happy.
>
>I am thinking it might be a monitor issue. It is an NCR with no
>available drivers, but still the boot issue... Oh well.
Since it happens during POST, when drivers aren't loaded yet, I'd
suspect a hardware compatiblity issue. Or maybe a problem with the
MB's AGP slot.
Just did a quick Google on your motherboard and came up with this:
http://www.digit-life.com/articles/a...dls/index.html
Near the bottom is a section on Nvidia problems with this MB. May help
if you haven't seen it already.
>
>Mike
>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
wrote:
>Earle Horton wrote:
>> "noneofyourbusiness" <top.secret@needtoknow.org> wrote in message
>> news:25k6r2plclf4t4ea9216gvphp7b7lra6ft@4ax.com...
>>> On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 09:50:51 -0700, "Earle Horton"
>>> <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Gamers don't like the built-in video cards that you get with a lot of
>>>> motherboards, because they are "cheap" and not as "gnarly" as a
>>>> $300.00 AGP card that comes with its own cooling fan. On the
>>>> other hand, you rarely get compatibility problems with built-in cards.
>>>>
>>>> Earle
>>>>
>>> On-board video rarely supports the *features* most modern games
>>> require...THATS why most gamers don't use on-board video :o
>>>
>> "Features" = "gnarly". Mike no doubt has a card that requires an
>> initialization sequence that is not being done properly by the driver that
>> he has installed. In that case, it is trying to emulate everything in
>> software, with the results that he has posted. Unless he is actually a
>> gamer (rhymes with lamer) I would recommend pitching it in the trash and
>> sticking with the old PCI card.
>>
>> Earle
>>
>>
>
> Yup, I am not a gamer and my PC has never rocked so fast than with the
>straight 4M pci card. It will even multi task for the first time!
>
>I am happy.
>
>I am thinking it might be a monitor issue. It is an NCR with no
>available drivers, but still the boot issue... Oh well.
Since it happens during POST, when drivers aren't loaded yet, I'd
suspect a hardware compatiblity issue. Or maybe a problem with the
MB's AGP slot.
Just did a quick Google on your motherboard and came up with this:
http://www.digit-life.com/articles/a...dls/index.html
Near the bottom is a section on Nvidia problems with this MB. May help
if you haven't seen it already.
>
>Mike
>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
#365
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Re: {OT} -- Computer Problem -- UPDATE, FIXED (I think)
On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 15:03:05 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:
>Earle Horton wrote:
>> "noneofyourbusiness" <top.secret@needtoknow.org> wrote in message
>> news:25k6r2plclf4t4ea9216gvphp7b7lra6ft@4ax.com...
>>> On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 09:50:51 -0700, "Earle Horton"
>>> <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Gamers don't like the built-in video cards that you get with a lot of
>>>> motherboards, because they are "cheap" and not as "gnarly" as a
>>>> $300.00 AGP card that comes with its own cooling fan. On the
>>>> other hand, you rarely get compatibility problems with built-in cards.
>>>>
>>>> Earle
>>>>
>>> On-board video rarely supports the *features* most modern games
>>> require...THATS why most gamers don't use on-board video :o
>>>
>> "Features" = "gnarly". Mike no doubt has a card that requires an
>> initialization sequence that is not being done properly by the driver that
>> he has installed. In that case, it is trying to emulate everything in
>> software, with the results that he has posted. Unless he is actually a
>> gamer (rhymes with lamer) I would recommend pitching it in the trash and
>> sticking with the old PCI card.
>>
>> Earle
>>
>>
>
> Yup, I am not a gamer and my PC has never rocked so fast than with the
>straight 4M pci card. It will even multi task for the first time!
>
>I am happy.
>
>I am thinking it might be a monitor issue. It is an NCR with no
>available drivers, but still the boot issue... Oh well.
Since it happens during POST, when drivers aren't loaded yet, I'd
suspect a hardware compatiblity issue. Or maybe a problem with the
MB's AGP slot.
Just did a quick Google on your motherboard and came up with this:
http://www.digit-life.com/articles/a...dls/index.html
Near the bottom is a section on Nvidia problems with this MB. May help
if you haven't seen it already.
>
>Mike
>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
wrote:
>Earle Horton wrote:
>> "noneofyourbusiness" <top.secret@needtoknow.org> wrote in message
>> news:25k6r2plclf4t4ea9216gvphp7b7lra6ft@4ax.com...
>>> On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 09:50:51 -0700, "Earle Horton"
>>> <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Gamers don't like the built-in video cards that you get with a lot of
>>>> motherboards, because they are "cheap" and not as "gnarly" as a
>>>> $300.00 AGP card that comes with its own cooling fan. On the
>>>> other hand, you rarely get compatibility problems with built-in cards.
>>>>
>>>> Earle
>>>>
>>> On-board video rarely supports the *features* most modern games
>>> require...THATS why most gamers don't use on-board video :o
>>>
>> "Features" = "gnarly". Mike no doubt has a card that requires an
>> initialization sequence that is not being done properly by the driver that
>> he has installed. In that case, it is trying to emulate everything in
>> software, with the results that he has posted. Unless he is actually a
>> gamer (rhymes with lamer) I would recommend pitching it in the trash and
>> sticking with the old PCI card.
>>
>> Earle
>>
>>
>
> Yup, I am not a gamer and my PC has never rocked so fast than with the
>straight 4M pci card. It will even multi task for the first time!
>
>I am happy.
>
>I am thinking it might be a monitor issue. It is an NCR with no
>available drivers, but still the boot issue... Oh well.
Since it happens during POST, when drivers aren't loaded yet, I'd
suspect a hardware compatiblity issue. Or maybe a problem with the
MB's AGP slot.
Just did a quick Google on your motherboard and came up with this:
http://www.digit-life.com/articles/a...dls/index.html
Near the bottom is a section on Nvidia problems with this MB. May help
if you haven't seen it already.
>
>Mike
>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
#366
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Re: {OT} -- Computer Problem -- UPDATE, FIXED (I think)
bllsht wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 15:03:05 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
>> Earle Horton wrote:
>>> "noneofyourbusiness" <top.secret@needtoknow.org> wrote in message
>>> news:25k6r2plclf4t4ea9216gvphp7b7lra6ft@4ax.com...
>>>> On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 09:50:51 -0700, "Earle Horton"
>>>> <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Gamers don't like the built-in video cards that you get with a lot of
>>>>> motherboards, because they are "cheap" and not as "gnarly" as a
>>>>> $300.00 AGP card that comes with its own cooling fan. On the
>>>>> other hand, you rarely get compatibility problems with built-in cards.
>>>>>
>>>>> Earle
>>>>>
>>>> On-board video rarely supports the *features* most modern games
>>>> require...THATS why most gamers don't use on-board video :o
>>>>
>>> "Features" = "gnarly". Mike no doubt has a card that requires an
>>> initialization sequence that is not being done properly by the driver that
>>> he has installed. In that case, it is trying to emulate everything in
>>> software, with the results that he has posted. Unless he is actually a
>>> gamer (rhymes with lamer) I would recommend pitching it in the trash and
>>> sticking with the old PCI card.
>>>
>>> Earle
>>>
>>>
>> Yup, I am not a gamer and my PC has never rocked so fast than with the
>> straight 4M pci card. It will even multi task for the first time!
>>
>> I am happy.
>>
>> I am thinking it might be a monitor issue. It is an NCR with no
>> available drivers, but still the boot issue... Oh well.
>
> Since it happens during POST, when drivers aren't loaded yet, I'd
> suspect a hardware compatiblity issue. Or maybe a problem with the
> MB's AGP slot.
>
> Just did a quick Google on your motherboard and came up with this:
>
> http://www.digit-life.com/articles/a...dls/index.html
>
> Near the bottom is a section on Nvidia problems with this MB. May help
> if you haven't seen it already.
Thanks, I have the single CPU with the VIA Apollo Pro133Z chipset
instead of the one mentioned and tried a 2005 VIA update with an AGP fix
in it also. Original drivers were 2002. Worse if anything with the
2005. It would only stay stable for one boot with that one, at least
the old drivers worked for years, just slow as a pig. I haven't seen a
performance increase since my P200 upgrade from my 486.
I am happy now with the 733 mhz board and 1G ram, it isn't worth messing
with until I upgrade hardware. I have never used anything so fast as it
is now!
Mike
>
>
>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 15:03:05 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
>> Earle Horton wrote:
>>> "noneofyourbusiness" <top.secret@needtoknow.org> wrote in message
>>> news:25k6r2plclf4t4ea9216gvphp7b7lra6ft@4ax.com...
>>>> On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 09:50:51 -0700, "Earle Horton"
>>>> <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Gamers don't like the built-in video cards that you get with a lot of
>>>>> motherboards, because they are "cheap" and not as "gnarly" as a
>>>>> $300.00 AGP card that comes with its own cooling fan. On the
>>>>> other hand, you rarely get compatibility problems with built-in cards.
>>>>>
>>>>> Earle
>>>>>
>>>> On-board video rarely supports the *features* most modern games
>>>> require...THATS why most gamers don't use on-board video :o
>>>>
>>> "Features" = "gnarly". Mike no doubt has a card that requires an
>>> initialization sequence that is not being done properly by the driver that
>>> he has installed. In that case, it is trying to emulate everything in
>>> software, with the results that he has posted. Unless he is actually a
>>> gamer (rhymes with lamer) I would recommend pitching it in the trash and
>>> sticking with the old PCI card.
>>>
>>> Earle
>>>
>>>
>> Yup, I am not a gamer and my PC has never rocked so fast than with the
>> straight 4M pci card. It will even multi task for the first time!
>>
>> I am happy.
>>
>> I am thinking it might be a monitor issue. It is an NCR with no
>> available drivers, but still the boot issue... Oh well.
>
> Since it happens during POST, when drivers aren't loaded yet, I'd
> suspect a hardware compatiblity issue. Or maybe a problem with the
> MB's AGP slot.
>
> Just did a quick Google on your motherboard and came up with this:
>
> http://www.digit-life.com/articles/a...dls/index.html
>
> Near the bottom is a section on Nvidia problems with this MB. May help
> if you haven't seen it already.
Thanks, I have the single CPU with the VIA Apollo Pro133Z chipset
instead of the one mentioned and tried a 2005 VIA update with an AGP fix
in it also. Original drivers were 2002. Worse if anything with the
2005. It would only stay stable for one boot with that one, at least
the old drivers worked for years, just slow as a pig. I haven't seen a
performance increase since my P200 upgrade from my 486.
I am happy now with the 733 mhz board and 1G ram, it isn't worth messing
with until I upgrade hardware. I have never used anything so fast as it
is now!
Mike
>
>
>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
#367
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Posts: n/a
Re: {OT} -- Computer Problem -- UPDATE, FIXED (I think)
bllsht wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 15:03:05 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
>> Earle Horton wrote:
>>> "noneofyourbusiness" <top.secret@needtoknow.org> wrote in message
>>> news:25k6r2plclf4t4ea9216gvphp7b7lra6ft@4ax.com...
>>>> On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 09:50:51 -0700, "Earle Horton"
>>>> <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Gamers don't like the built-in video cards that you get with a lot of
>>>>> motherboards, because they are "cheap" and not as "gnarly" as a
>>>>> $300.00 AGP card that comes with its own cooling fan. On the
>>>>> other hand, you rarely get compatibility problems with built-in cards.
>>>>>
>>>>> Earle
>>>>>
>>>> On-board video rarely supports the *features* most modern games
>>>> require...THATS why most gamers don't use on-board video :o
>>>>
>>> "Features" = "gnarly". Mike no doubt has a card that requires an
>>> initialization sequence that is not being done properly by the driver that
>>> he has installed. In that case, it is trying to emulate everything in
>>> software, with the results that he has posted. Unless he is actually a
>>> gamer (rhymes with lamer) I would recommend pitching it in the trash and
>>> sticking with the old PCI card.
>>>
>>> Earle
>>>
>>>
>> Yup, I am not a gamer and my PC has never rocked so fast than with the
>> straight 4M pci card. It will even multi task for the first time!
>>
>> I am happy.
>>
>> I am thinking it might be a monitor issue. It is an NCR with no
>> available drivers, but still the boot issue... Oh well.
>
> Since it happens during POST, when drivers aren't loaded yet, I'd
> suspect a hardware compatiblity issue. Or maybe a problem with the
> MB's AGP slot.
>
> Just did a quick Google on your motherboard and came up with this:
>
> http://www.digit-life.com/articles/a...dls/index.html
>
> Near the bottom is a section on Nvidia problems with this MB. May help
> if you haven't seen it already.
Thanks, I have the single CPU with the VIA Apollo Pro133Z chipset
instead of the one mentioned and tried a 2005 VIA update with an AGP fix
in it also. Original drivers were 2002. Worse if anything with the
2005. It would only stay stable for one boot with that one, at least
the old drivers worked for years, just slow as a pig. I haven't seen a
performance increase since my P200 upgrade from my 486.
I am happy now with the 733 mhz board and 1G ram, it isn't worth messing
with until I upgrade hardware. I have never used anything so fast as it
is now!
Mike
>
>
>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 15:03:05 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
>> Earle Horton wrote:
>>> "noneofyourbusiness" <top.secret@needtoknow.org> wrote in message
>>> news:25k6r2plclf4t4ea9216gvphp7b7lra6ft@4ax.com...
>>>> On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 09:50:51 -0700, "Earle Horton"
>>>> <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Gamers don't like the built-in video cards that you get with a lot of
>>>>> motherboards, because they are "cheap" and not as "gnarly" as a
>>>>> $300.00 AGP card that comes with its own cooling fan. On the
>>>>> other hand, you rarely get compatibility problems with built-in cards.
>>>>>
>>>>> Earle
>>>>>
>>>> On-board video rarely supports the *features* most modern games
>>>> require...THATS why most gamers don't use on-board video :o
>>>>
>>> "Features" = "gnarly". Mike no doubt has a card that requires an
>>> initialization sequence that is not being done properly by the driver that
>>> he has installed. In that case, it is trying to emulate everything in
>>> software, with the results that he has posted. Unless he is actually a
>>> gamer (rhymes with lamer) I would recommend pitching it in the trash and
>>> sticking with the old PCI card.
>>>
>>> Earle
>>>
>>>
>> Yup, I am not a gamer and my PC has never rocked so fast than with the
>> straight 4M pci card. It will even multi task for the first time!
>>
>> I am happy.
>>
>> I am thinking it might be a monitor issue. It is an NCR with no
>> available drivers, but still the boot issue... Oh well.
>
> Since it happens during POST, when drivers aren't loaded yet, I'd
> suspect a hardware compatiblity issue. Or maybe a problem with the
> MB's AGP slot.
>
> Just did a quick Google on your motherboard and came up with this:
>
> http://www.digit-life.com/articles/a...dls/index.html
>
> Near the bottom is a section on Nvidia problems with this MB. May help
> if you haven't seen it already.
Thanks, I have the single CPU with the VIA Apollo Pro133Z chipset
instead of the one mentioned and tried a 2005 VIA update with an AGP fix
in it also. Original drivers were 2002. Worse if anything with the
2005. It would only stay stable for one boot with that one, at least
the old drivers worked for years, just slow as a pig. I haven't seen a
performance increase since my P200 upgrade from my 486.
I am happy now with the 733 mhz board and 1G ram, it isn't worth messing
with until I upgrade hardware. I have never used anything so fast as it
is now!
Mike
>
>
>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
#368
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Re: {OT} -- Computer Problem -- UPDATE, FIXED (I think)
bllsht wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 15:03:05 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
>> Earle Horton wrote:
>>> "noneofyourbusiness" <top.secret@needtoknow.org> wrote in message
>>> news:25k6r2plclf4t4ea9216gvphp7b7lra6ft@4ax.com...
>>>> On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 09:50:51 -0700, "Earle Horton"
>>>> <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Gamers don't like the built-in video cards that you get with a lot of
>>>>> motherboards, because they are "cheap" and not as "gnarly" as a
>>>>> $300.00 AGP card that comes with its own cooling fan. On the
>>>>> other hand, you rarely get compatibility problems with built-in cards.
>>>>>
>>>>> Earle
>>>>>
>>>> On-board video rarely supports the *features* most modern games
>>>> require...THATS why most gamers don't use on-board video :o
>>>>
>>> "Features" = "gnarly". Mike no doubt has a card that requires an
>>> initialization sequence that is not being done properly by the driver that
>>> he has installed. In that case, it is trying to emulate everything in
>>> software, with the results that he has posted. Unless he is actually a
>>> gamer (rhymes with lamer) I would recommend pitching it in the trash and
>>> sticking with the old PCI card.
>>>
>>> Earle
>>>
>>>
>> Yup, I am not a gamer and my PC has never rocked so fast than with the
>> straight 4M pci card. It will even multi task for the first time!
>>
>> I am happy.
>>
>> I am thinking it might be a monitor issue. It is an NCR with no
>> available drivers, but still the boot issue... Oh well.
>
> Since it happens during POST, when drivers aren't loaded yet, I'd
> suspect a hardware compatiblity issue. Or maybe a problem with the
> MB's AGP slot.
>
> Just did a quick Google on your motherboard and came up with this:
>
> http://www.digit-life.com/articles/a...dls/index.html
>
> Near the bottom is a section on Nvidia problems with this MB. May help
> if you haven't seen it already.
Thanks, I have the single CPU with the VIA Apollo Pro133Z chipset
instead of the one mentioned and tried a 2005 VIA update with an AGP fix
in it also. Original drivers were 2002. Worse if anything with the
2005. It would only stay stable for one boot with that one, at least
the old drivers worked for years, just slow as a pig. I haven't seen a
performance increase since my P200 upgrade from my 486.
I am happy now with the 733 mhz board and 1G ram, it isn't worth messing
with until I upgrade hardware. I have never used anything so fast as it
is now!
Mike
>
>
>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 15:03:05 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
>> Earle Horton wrote:
>>> "noneofyourbusiness" <top.secret@needtoknow.org> wrote in message
>>> news:25k6r2plclf4t4ea9216gvphp7b7lra6ft@4ax.com...
>>>> On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 09:50:51 -0700, "Earle Horton"
>>>> <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Gamers don't like the built-in video cards that you get with a lot of
>>>>> motherboards, because they are "cheap" and not as "gnarly" as a
>>>>> $300.00 AGP card that comes with its own cooling fan. On the
>>>>> other hand, you rarely get compatibility problems with built-in cards.
>>>>>
>>>>> Earle
>>>>>
>>>> On-board video rarely supports the *features* most modern games
>>>> require...THATS why most gamers don't use on-board video :o
>>>>
>>> "Features" = "gnarly". Mike no doubt has a card that requires an
>>> initialization sequence that is not being done properly by the driver that
>>> he has installed. In that case, it is trying to emulate everything in
>>> software, with the results that he has posted. Unless he is actually a
>>> gamer (rhymes with lamer) I would recommend pitching it in the trash and
>>> sticking with the old PCI card.
>>>
>>> Earle
>>>
>>>
>> Yup, I am not a gamer and my PC has never rocked so fast than with the
>> straight 4M pci card. It will even multi task for the first time!
>>
>> I am happy.
>>
>> I am thinking it might be a monitor issue. It is an NCR with no
>> available drivers, but still the boot issue... Oh well.
>
> Since it happens during POST, when drivers aren't loaded yet, I'd
> suspect a hardware compatiblity issue. Or maybe a problem with the
> MB's AGP slot.
>
> Just did a quick Google on your motherboard and came up with this:
>
> http://www.digit-life.com/articles/a...dls/index.html
>
> Near the bottom is a section on Nvidia problems with this MB. May help
> if you haven't seen it already.
Thanks, I have the single CPU with the VIA Apollo Pro133Z chipset
instead of the one mentioned and tried a 2005 VIA update with an AGP fix
in it also. Original drivers were 2002. Worse if anything with the
2005. It would only stay stable for one boot with that one, at least
the old drivers worked for years, just slow as a pig. I haven't seen a
performance increase since my P200 upgrade from my 486.
I am happy now with the 733 mhz board and 1G ram, it isn't worth messing
with until I upgrade hardware. I have never used anything so fast as it
is now!
Mike
>
>
>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
#369
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Re: {OT} -- Computer Problem -- UPDATE, FIXED (I think)
bllsht wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 15:03:05 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
>> Earle Horton wrote:
>>> "noneofyourbusiness" <top.secret@needtoknow.org> wrote in message
>>> news:25k6r2plclf4t4ea9216gvphp7b7lra6ft@4ax.com...
>>>> On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 09:50:51 -0700, "Earle Horton"
>>>> <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Gamers don't like the built-in video cards that you get with a lot of
>>>>> motherboards, because they are "cheap" and not as "gnarly" as a
>>>>> $300.00 AGP card that comes with its own cooling fan. On the
>>>>> other hand, you rarely get compatibility problems with built-in cards.
>>>>>
>>>>> Earle
>>>>>
>>>> On-board video rarely supports the *features* most modern games
>>>> require...THATS why most gamers don't use on-board video :o
>>>>
>>> "Features" = "gnarly". Mike no doubt has a card that requires an
>>> initialization sequence that is not being done properly by the driver that
>>> he has installed. In that case, it is trying to emulate everything in
>>> software, with the results that he has posted. Unless he is actually a
>>> gamer (rhymes with lamer) I would recommend pitching it in the trash and
>>> sticking with the old PCI card.
>>>
>>> Earle
>>>
>>>
>> Yup, I am not a gamer and my PC has never rocked so fast than with the
>> straight 4M pci card. It will even multi task for the first time!
>>
>> I am happy.
>>
>> I am thinking it might be a monitor issue. It is an NCR with no
>> available drivers, but still the boot issue... Oh well.
>
> Since it happens during POST, when drivers aren't loaded yet, I'd
> suspect a hardware compatiblity issue. Or maybe a problem with the
> MB's AGP slot.
>
> Just did a quick Google on your motherboard and came up with this:
>
> http://www.digit-life.com/articles/a...dls/index.html
>
> Near the bottom is a section on Nvidia problems with this MB. May help
> if you haven't seen it already.
Thanks, I have the single CPU with the VIA Apollo Pro133Z chipset
instead of the one mentioned and tried a 2005 VIA update with an AGP fix
in it also. Original drivers were 2002. Worse if anything with the
2005. It would only stay stable for one boot with that one, at least
the old drivers worked for years, just slow as a pig. I haven't seen a
performance increase since my P200 upgrade from my 486.
I am happy now with the 733 mhz board and 1G ram, it isn't worth messing
with until I upgrade hardware. I have never used anything so fast as it
is now!
Mike
>
>
>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 15:03:05 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
>> Earle Horton wrote:
>>> "noneofyourbusiness" <top.secret@needtoknow.org> wrote in message
>>> news:25k6r2plclf4t4ea9216gvphp7b7lra6ft@4ax.com...
>>>> On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 09:50:51 -0700, "Earle Horton"
>>>> <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Gamers don't like the built-in video cards that you get with a lot of
>>>>> motherboards, because they are "cheap" and not as "gnarly" as a
>>>>> $300.00 AGP card that comes with its own cooling fan. On the
>>>>> other hand, you rarely get compatibility problems with built-in cards.
>>>>>
>>>>> Earle
>>>>>
>>>> On-board video rarely supports the *features* most modern games
>>>> require...THATS why most gamers don't use on-board video :o
>>>>
>>> "Features" = "gnarly". Mike no doubt has a card that requires an
>>> initialization sequence that is not being done properly by the driver that
>>> he has installed. In that case, it is trying to emulate everything in
>>> software, with the results that he has posted. Unless he is actually a
>>> gamer (rhymes with lamer) I would recommend pitching it in the trash and
>>> sticking with the old PCI card.
>>>
>>> Earle
>>>
>>>
>> Yup, I am not a gamer and my PC has never rocked so fast than with the
>> straight 4M pci card. It will even multi task for the first time!
>>
>> I am happy.
>>
>> I am thinking it might be a monitor issue. It is an NCR with no
>> available drivers, but still the boot issue... Oh well.
>
> Since it happens during POST, when drivers aren't loaded yet, I'd
> suspect a hardware compatiblity issue. Or maybe a problem with the
> MB's AGP slot.
>
> Just did a quick Google on your motherboard and came up with this:
>
> http://www.digit-life.com/articles/a...dls/index.html
>
> Near the bottom is a section on Nvidia problems with this MB. May help
> if you haven't seen it already.
Thanks, I have the single CPU with the VIA Apollo Pro133Z chipset
instead of the one mentioned and tried a 2005 VIA update with an AGP fix
in it also. Original drivers were 2002. Worse if anything with the
2005. It would only stay stable for one boot with that one, at least
the old drivers worked for years, just slow as a pig. I haven't seen a
performance increase since my P200 upgrade from my 486.
I am happy now with the 733 mhz board and 1G ram, it isn't worth messing
with until I upgrade hardware. I have never used anything so fast as it
is now!
Mike
>
>
>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
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Re: {OT} -- Computer Problem -- UPDATE, FIXED (I think)
Not sure if you saw or are ignoring my earlier post but I''ve been
using this free anti virus on all my PCs for 6 month with no problems.
I got a new dell laptop in August that came with McCafee, I reformatted
to remove all the dell crap and tried this virus scan instead and am
very happy with it
http://www.avast.com/
Jeff Strickland wrote:
> I delivered the machine back to my b-in-law's house, where he set about
> reloading McAfee Internet Security Suite, where upon completion the machine
> lost a race with a snail.
>
> I removed McAfee, again, and the speed is back. We'll be looking for new
> protection ...
>
> The odd thing is, I run McAfee and my computer runs fine. I have an HP
> Pavilion, he runs a Great Quality <whatever>. I suppose the difference is
> that the Chinese have better motherboards than the Koreans ...
>
>
>
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:mu6sh.9$2n.1@trndny06...
> >
> > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
> > news:KBPrh.21233$wq.14150@trndny07...
> >>I (my brother in law, really) have a computer that has a SERIOUS case of
> >>The Slows. It takes FOREVER to open apps, and complete any number of
> >>different tasks.
> >>
> >> It is an off-brand box that came from Fry's (I think). I don't recall
> >> what the architecture is, but I'm pretty sure my 286-based laptop was
> >> faster.
> >>
> >> The computer is on its way to my house for a checkout. I'm not sure what
> >> my strategy will be.
> >>
> >> The machine has a valid version of XP Home edition, but I do not know if
> >> it has the Restore CD or not. Can I use a different copy of XP to do
> >> restore operations? I assume that I have to use the Key Code that is on
> >> the computer, not the one that belongs to the copy of XP that I will
> >> restore from.
> >>
> >> Do not hesitate to offer suggestions on what to do ...
> >>
> >
> > I found a couple of legacy programs that should have uninstalled long ago.
> > They still remain in the Add or Remove Programs section of the Control
> > Panel, and they would not go away from there. I went into the Registry and
> > removed all of the "calls" to the errant programs, then I uninstalled
> > McAfee Internet Security Suite. Now the machine works like it should.
> > Since we last talked, I've loaded a dozen CDs into iTunes (this is a
> > project that would have taken days, assuming one would tolerate the pain
> > that long).
> >
> > Somebody here offered up WinASO as a Registry Cleaner. I bought a 5-site
> > license and am pleased with the product. Well, as pleased as one can be
> > after messing with something for a couple of hours. Thanks for that ...
> >
> > I cleaned up hundreds of "registry errors" in three machines so far, my
> > wife's machine had 1750 total errors, more than 200 of them ranked as
> > "serious" by WinASO Registry Optimizer.
> >
> >
> > NEW QUESTION
> > The Registry has a structure. Are there any resources out there where I
> > can look up what the structure is, and then I would be able to do stuff to
> > the Registry with less stress. I've done surgery to the Registry on other
> > machines, and on one I turned the machine into a paper wieght. I'd like to
> > understand what I'm looking at when I poke around in the Registry. I'm
> > thinking a book titled Registry for Dummies would be what I am looking
> > for. (I resist the temptation to buy anything with "dummies" in the title
> > ...)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
using this free anti virus on all my PCs for 6 month with no problems.
I got a new dell laptop in August that came with McCafee, I reformatted
to remove all the dell crap and tried this virus scan instead and am
very happy with it
http://www.avast.com/
Jeff Strickland wrote:
> I delivered the machine back to my b-in-law's house, where he set about
> reloading McAfee Internet Security Suite, where upon completion the machine
> lost a race with a snail.
>
> I removed McAfee, again, and the speed is back. We'll be looking for new
> protection ...
>
> The odd thing is, I run McAfee and my computer runs fine. I have an HP
> Pavilion, he runs a Great Quality <whatever>. I suppose the difference is
> that the Chinese have better motherboards than the Koreans ...
>
>
>
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:mu6sh.9$2n.1@trndny06...
> >
> > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
> > news:KBPrh.21233$wq.14150@trndny07...
> >>I (my brother in law, really) have a computer that has a SERIOUS case of
> >>The Slows. It takes FOREVER to open apps, and complete any number of
> >>different tasks.
> >>
> >> It is an off-brand box that came from Fry's (I think). I don't recall
> >> what the architecture is, but I'm pretty sure my 286-based laptop was
> >> faster.
> >>
> >> The computer is on its way to my house for a checkout. I'm not sure what
> >> my strategy will be.
> >>
> >> The machine has a valid version of XP Home edition, but I do not know if
> >> it has the Restore CD or not. Can I use a different copy of XP to do
> >> restore operations? I assume that I have to use the Key Code that is on
> >> the computer, not the one that belongs to the copy of XP that I will
> >> restore from.
> >>
> >> Do not hesitate to offer suggestions on what to do ...
> >>
> >
> > I found a couple of legacy programs that should have uninstalled long ago.
> > They still remain in the Add or Remove Programs section of the Control
> > Panel, and they would not go away from there. I went into the Registry and
> > removed all of the "calls" to the errant programs, then I uninstalled
> > McAfee Internet Security Suite. Now the machine works like it should.
> > Since we last talked, I've loaded a dozen CDs into iTunes (this is a
> > project that would have taken days, assuming one would tolerate the pain
> > that long).
> >
> > Somebody here offered up WinASO as a Registry Cleaner. I bought a 5-site
> > license and am pleased with the product. Well, as pleased as one can be
> > after messing with something for a couple of hours. Thanks for that ...
> >
> > I cleaned up hundreds of "registry errors" in three machines so far, my
> > wife's machine had 1750 total errors, more than 200 of them ranked as
> > "serious" by WinASO Registry Optimizer.
> >
> >
> > NEW QUESTION
> > The Registry has a structure. Are there any resources out there where I
> > can look up what the structure is, and then I would be able to do stuff to
> > the Registry with less stress. I've done surgery to the Registry on other
> > machines, and on one I turned the machine into a paper wieght. I'd like to
> > understand what I'm looking at when I poke around in the Registry. I'm
> > thinking a book titled Registry for Dummies would be what I am looking
> > for. (I resist the temptation to buy anything with "dummies" in the title
> > ...)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >