ZJ defogging problem, wifey is unhappy
#61
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Re: ZJ defogging problem, wifey is unhappy
It isn't debatable on the ZJ, particularly with the ATC. Is noted in
the owners and factory service manual as that is the way it works.
I honestly don't know of any modern car with A/C that doesn't turn on
the AC with the defroster, but that doesn't mean you are totally
incorrect.
Jeff Strickland proclaimed:
> "Like it should" is debatable. None of the cars that I currently own
> switch the AC on with the Defroster. The defroster is really just a
> selection of which vent holes you want the air to blow out of. Sure,
> some cars will switch the AC on if defrost is set, but this is not a
> requirement, and just because the AC does not come on by itself doesn't
> necessarily point to a problem. If you can set the defrost and turn the
> AC on at the same time, then you have what you were meant to have, or
> you have something that can work, and gives you options of where the air
> should blow from whether or not the AC is on.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:7Z_Ze.1869$cq2.362273@news20.bellglobal.com.. .
>
>> Thanks Gents, I'll try some of these things on the way to work
>> tonight. Think I need to ascertain first if the ac is actually turning
>> on when set to defrost like it should.. We'll see what happens.
>>
>> Snow...
>>
>>
>
the owners and factory service manual as that is the way it works.
I honestly don't know of any modern car with A/C that doesn't turn on
the AC with the defroster, but that doesn't mean you are totally
incorrect.
Jeff Strickland proclaimed:
> "Like it should" is debatable. None of the cars that I currently own
> switch the AC on with the Defroster. The defroster is really just a
> selection of which vent holes you want the air to blow out of. Sure,
> some cars will switch the AC on if defrost is set, but this is not a
> requirement, and just because the AC does not come on by itself doesn't
> necessarily point to a problem. If you can set the defrost and turn the
> AC on at the same time, then you have what you were meant to have, or
> you have something that can work, and gives you options of where the air
> should blow from whether or not the AC is on.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:7Z_Ze.1869$cq2.362273@news20.bellglobal.com.. .
>
>> Thanks Gents, I'll try some of these things on the way to work
>> tonight. Think I need to ascertain first if the ac is actually turning
>> on when set to defrost like it should.. We'll see what happens.
>>
>> Snow...
>>
>>
>
#62
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Re: ZJ defogging problem, wifey is unhappy
The service manual does say that the compressor is on during
Floor/Defrost and Defrost modes, and when the A/C button is depressed.
However, the owner's manual states that putting the ATC in defrost
mode is full manual override, and that the A/C button must be
depressed to get cooling (it doesn't say you have to depress it in
defrost, but it doesn't say you don't need to either.) I am going to
try it tomorrow, and see if the compressor comes on in manual defrost
mode.
----
On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 19:20:10 -0700, Lon <lon.stowell@comcast.net>
wrote:
> It isn't debatable on the ZJ, particularly with the ATC. Is noted in
> the owners and factory service manual as that is the way it works.
>
> I honestly don't know of any modern car with A/C that doesn't turn on
> the AC with the defroster, but that doesn't mean you are totally
> incorrect.
>
>Jeff Strickland proclaimed:
>> "Like it should" is debatable. None of the cars that I currently own
>> switch the AC on with the Defroster. The defroster is really just a
>> selection of which vent holes you want the air to blow out of. Sure,
>> some cars will switch the AC on if defrost is set, but this is not a
>> requirement, and just because the AC does not come on by itself doesn't
>> necessarily point to a problem. If you can set the defrost and turn the
>> AC on at the same time, then you have what you were meant to have, or
>> you have something that can work, and gives you options of where the air
>> should blow from whether or not the AC is on.
Floor/Defrost and Defrost modes, and when the A/C button is depressed.
However, the owner's manual states that putting the ATC in defrost
mode is full manual override, and that the A/C button must be
depressed to get cooling (it doesn't say you have to depress it in
defrost, but it doesn't say you don't need to either.) I am going to
try it tomorrow, and see if the compressor comes on in manual defrost
mode.
----
On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 19:20:10 -0700, Lon <lon.stowell@comcast.net>
wrote:
> It isn't debatable on the ZJ, particularly with the ATC. Is noted in
> the owners and factory service manual as that is the way it works.
>
> I honestly don't know of any modern car with A/C that doesn't turn on
> the AC with the defroster, but that doesn't mean you are totally
> incorrect.
>
>Jeff Strickland proclaimed:
>> "Like it should" is debatable. None of the cars that I currently own
>> switch the AC on with the Defroster. The defroster is really just a
>> selection of which vent holes you want the air to blow out of. Sure,
>> some cars will switch the AC on if defrost is set, but this is not a
>> requirement, and just because the AC does not come on by itself doesn't
>> necessarily point to a problem. If you can set the defrost and turn the
>> AC on at the same time, then you have what you were meant to have, or
>> you have something that can work, and gives you options of where the air
>> should blow from whether or not the AC is on.
#63
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Re: ZJ defogging problem, wifey is unhappy
The service manual does say that the compressor is on during
Floor/Defrost and Defrost modes, and when the A/C button is depressed.
However, the owner's manual states that putting the ATC in defrost
mode is full manual override, and that the A/C button must be
depressed to get cooling (it doesn't say you have to depress it in
defrost, but it doesn't say you don't need to either.) I am going to
try it tomorrow, and see if the compressor comes on in manual defrost
mode.
----
On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 19:20:10 -0700, Lon <lon.stowell@comcast.net>
wrote:
> It isn't debatable on the ZJ, particularly with the ATC. Is noted in
> the owners and factory service manual as that is the way it works.
>
> I honestly don't know of any modern car with A/C that doesn't turn on
> the AC with the defroster, but that doesn't mean you are totally
> incorrect.
>
>Jeff Strickland proclaimed:
>> "Like it should" is debatable. None of the cars that I currently own
>> switch the AC on with the Defroster. The defroster is really just a
>> selection of which vent holes you want the air to blow out of. Sure,
>> some cars will switch the AC on if defrost is set, but this is not a
>> requirement, and just because the AC does not come on by itself doesn't
>> necessarily point to a problem. If you can set the defrost and turn the
>> AC on at the same time, then you have what you were meant to have, or
>> you have something that can work, and gives you options of where the air
>> should blow from whether or not the AC is on.
Floor/Defrost and Defrost modes, and when the A/C button is depressed.
However, the owner's manual states that putting the ATC in defrost
mode is full manual override, and that the A/C button must be
depressed to get cooling (it doesn't say you have to depress it in
defrost, but it doesn't say you don't need to either.) I am going to
try it tomorrow, and see if the compressor comes on in manual defrost
mode.
----
On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 19:20:10 -0700, Lon <lon.stowell@comcast.net>
wrote:
> It isn't debatable on the ZJ, particularly with the ATC. Is noted in
> the owners and factory service manual as that is the way it works.
>
> I honestly don't know of any modern car with A/C that doesn't turn on
> the AC with the defroster, but that doesn't mean you are totally
> incorrect.
>
>Jeff Strickland proclaimed:
>> "Like it should" is debatable. None of the cars that I currently own
>> switch the AC on with the Defroster. The defroster is really just a
>> selection of which vent holes you want the air to blow out of. Sure,
>> some cars will switch the AC on if defrost is set, but this is not a
>> requirement, and just because the AC does not come on by itself doesn't
>> necessarily point to a problem. If you can set the defrost and turn the
>> AC on at the same time, then you have what you were meant to have, or
>> you have something that can work, and gives you options of where the air
>> should blow from whether or not the AC is on.
#64
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Re: ZJ defogging problem, wifey is unhappy
The service manual does say that the compressor is on during
Floor/Defrost and Defrost modes, and when the A/C button is depressed.
However, the owner's manual states that putting the ATC in defrost
mode is full manual override, and that the A/C button must be
depressed to get cooling (it doesn't say you have to depress it in
defrost, but it doesn't say you don't need to either.) I am going to
try it tomorrow, and see if the compressor comes on in manual defrost
mode.
----
On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 19:20:10 -0700, Lon <lon.stowell@comcast.net>
wrote:
> It isn't debatable on the ZJ, particularly with the ATC. Is noted in
> the owners and factory service manual as that is the way it works.
>
> I honestly don't know of any modern car with A/C that doesn't turn on
> the AC with the defroster, but that doesn't mean you are totally
> incorrect.
>
>Jeff Strickland proclaimed:
>> "Like it should" is debatable. None of the cars that I currently own
>> switch the AC on with the Defroster. The defroster is really just a
>> selection of which vent holes you want the air to blow out of. Sure,
>> some cars will switch the AC on if defrost is set, but this is not a
>> requirement, and just because the AC does not come on by itself doesn't
>> necessarily point to a problem. If you can set the defrost and turn the
>> AC on at the same time, then you have what you were meant to have, or
>> you have something that can work, and gives you options of where the air
>> should blow from whether or not the AC is on.
Floor/Defrost and Defrost modes, and when the A/C button is depressed.
However, the owner's manual states that putting the ATC in defrost
mode is full manual override, and that the A/C button must be
depressed to get cooling (it doesn't say you have to depress it in
defrost, but it doesn't say you don't need to either.) I am going to
try it tomorrow, and see if the compressor comes on in manual defrost
mode.
----
On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 19:20:10 -0700, Lon <lon.stowell@comcast.net>
wrote:
> It isn't debatable on the ZJ, particularly with the ATC. Is noted in
> the owners and factory service manual as that is the way it works.
>
> I honestly don't know of any modern car with A/C that doesn't turn on
> the AC with the defroster, but that doesn't mean you are totally
> incorrect.
>
>Jeff Strickland proclaimed:
>> "Like it should" is debatable. None of the cars that I currently own
>> switch the AC on with the Defroster. The defroster is really just a
>> selection of which vent holes you want the air to blow out of. Sure,
>> some cars will switch the AC on if defrost is set, but this is not a
>> requirement, and just because the AC does not come on by itself doesn't
>> necessarily point to a problem. If you can set the defrost and turn the
>> AC on at the same time, then you have what you were meant to have, or
>> you have something that can work, and gives you options of where the air
>> should blow from whether or not the AC is on.
#65
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Re: ZJ defogging problem, wifey is unhappy
OK. Here's the scoop. The A/C does NOT turn on in either the manual
Defrost position or the Defrost/Floor position. It DOES turn on in
the two right positions, Bi-Level and Panel. So the only way to have
the A/C on in defrost mode is to push the A/C button. This is on a
'93 JGC with the Automatic Temperature Control. Same as the OP. I
have owned this Jeep since it was new.
----
On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 21:22:38 -0700, ---- <LeadWinger> wrote:
>The service manual does say that the compressor is on during
>Floor/Defrost and Defrost modes, and when the A/C button is depressed.
>However, the owner's manual states that putting the ATC in defrost
>mode is full manual override, and that the A/C button must be
>depressed to get cooling (it doesn't say you have to depress it in
>defrost, but it doesn't say you don't need to either.) I am going to
>try it tomorrow, and see if the compressor comes on in manual defrost
>mode.
>
>----
>
>On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 19:20:10 -0700, Lon <lon.stowell@comcast.net>
>wrote:
>
>> It isn't debatable on the ZJ, particularly with the ATC. Is noted in
>> the owners and factory service manual as that is the way it works.
>>
>> I honestly don't know of any modern car with A/C that doesn't turn on
>> the AC with the defroster, but that doesn't mean you are totally
>> incorrect.
>>
>>Jeff Strickland proclaimed:
>>> "Like it should" is debatable. None of the cars that I currently own
>>> switch the AC on with the Defroster. The defroster is really just a
>>> selection of which vent holes you want the air to blow out of. Sure,
>>> some cars will switch the AC on if defrost is set, but this is not a
>>> requirement, and just because the AC does not come on by itself doesn't
>>> necessarily point to a problem. If you can set the defrost and turn the
>>> AC on at the same time, then you have what you were meant to have, or
>>> you have something that can work, and gives you options of where the air
>>> should blow from whether or not the AC is on.
Defrost position or the Defrost/Floor position. It DOES turn on in
the two right positions, Bi-Level and Panel. So the only way to have
the A/C on in defrost mode is to push the A/C button. This is on a
'93 JGC with the Automatic Temperature Control. Same as the OP. I
have owned this Jeep since it was new.
----
On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 21:22:38 -0700, ---- <LeadWinger> wrote:
>The service manual does say that the compressor is on during
>Floor/Defrost and Defrost modes, and when the A/C button is depressed.
>However, the owner's manual states that putting the ATC in defrost
>mode is full manual override, and that the A/C button must be
>depressed to get cooling (it doesn't say you have to depress it in
>defrost, but it doesn't say you don't need to either.) I am going to
>try it tomorrow, and see if the compressor comes on in manual defrost
>mode.
>
>----
>
>On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 19:20:10 -0700, Lon <lon.stowell@comcast.net>
>wrote:
>
>> It isn't debatable on the ZJ, particularly with the ATC. Is noted in
>> the owners and factory service manual as that is the way it works.
>>
>> I honestly don't know of any modern car with A/C that doesn't turn on
>> the AC with the defroster, but that doesn't mean you are totally
>> incorrect.
>>
>>Jeff Strickland proclaimed:
>>> "Like it should" is debatable. None of the cars that I currently own
>>> switch the AC on with the Defroster. The defroster is really just a
>>> selection of which vent holes you want the air to blow out of. Sure,
>>> some cars will switch the AC on if defrost is set, but this is not a
>>> requirement, and just because the AC does not come on by itself doesn't
>>> necessarily point to a problem. If you can set the defrost and turn the
>>> AC on at the same time, then you have what you were meant to have, or
>>> you have something that can work, and gives you options of where the air
>>> should blow from whether or not the AC is on.
#66
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Re: ZJ defogging problem, wifey is unhappy
OK. Here's the scoop. The A/C does NOT turn on in either the manual
Defrost position or the Defrost/Floor position. It DOES turn on in
the two right positions, Bi-Level and Panel. So the only way to have
the A/C on in defrost mode is to push the A/C button. This is on a
'93 JGC with the Automatic Temperature Control. Same as the OP. I
have owned this Jeep since it was new.
----
On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 21:22:38 -0700, ---- <LeadWinger> wrote:
>The service manual does say that the compressor is on during
>Floor/Defrost and Defrost modes, and when the A/C button is depressed.
>However, the owner's manual states that putting the ATC in defrost
>mode is full manual override, and that the A/C button must be
>depressed to get cooling (it doesn't say you have to depress it in
>defrost, but it doesn't say you don't need to either.) I am going to
>try it tomorrow, and see if the compressor comes on in manual defrost
>mode.
>
>----
>
>On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 19:20:10 -0700, Lon <lon.stowell@comcast.net>
>wrote:
>
>> It isn't debatable on the ZJ, particularly with the ATC. Is noted in
>> the owners and factory service manual as that is the way it works.
>>
>> I honestly don't know of any modern car with A/C that doesn't turn on
>> the AC with the defroster, but that doesn't mean you are totally
>> incorrect.
>>
>>Jeff Strickland proclaimed:
>>> "Like it should" is debatable. None of the cars that I currently own
>>> switch the AC on with the Defroster. The defroster is really just a
>>> selection of which vent holes you want the air to blow out of. Sure,
>>> some cars will switch the AC on if defrost is set, but this is not a
>>> requirement, and just because the AC does not come on by itself doesn't
>>> necessarily point to a problem. If you can set the defrost and turn the
>>> AC on at the same time, then you have what you were meant to have, or
>>> you have something that can work, and gives you options of where the air
>>> should blow from whether or not the AC is on.
Defrost position or the Defrost/Floor position. It DOES turn on in
the two right positions, Bi-Level and Panel. So the only way to have
the A/C on in defrost mode is to push the A/C button. This is on a
'93 JGC with the Automatic Temperature Control. Same as the OP. I
have owned this Jeep since it was new.
----
On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 21:22:38 -0700, ---- <LeadWinger> wrote:
>The service manual does say that the compressor is on during
>Floor/Defrost and Defrost modes, and when the A/C button is depressed.
>However, the owner's manual states that putting the ATC in defrost
>mode is full manual override, and that the A/C button must be
>depressed to get cooling (it doesn't say you have to depress it in
>defrost, but it doesn't say you don't need to either.) I am going to
>try it tomorrow, and see if the compressor comes on in manual defrost
>mode.
>
>----
>
>On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 19:20:10 -0700, Lon <lon.stowell@comcast.net>
>wrote:
>
>> It isn't debatable on the ZJ, particularly with the ATC. Is noted in
>> the owners and factory service manual as that is the way it works.
>>
>> I honestly don't know of any modern car with A/C that doesn't turn on
>> the AC with the defroster, but that doesn't mean you are totally
>> incorrect.
>>
>>Jeff Strickland proclaimed:
>>> "Like it should" is debatable. None of the cars that I currently own
>>> switch the AC on with the Defroster. The defroster is really just a
>>> selection of which vent holes you want the air to blow out of. Sure,
>>> some cars will switch the AC on if defrost is set, but this is not a
>>> requirement, and just because the AC does not come on by itself doesn't
>>> necessarily point to a problem. If you can set the defrost and turn the
>>> AC on at the same time, then you have what you were meant to have, or
>>> you have something that can work, and gives you options of where the air
>>> should blow from whether or not the AC is on.
#67
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Re: ZJ defogging problem, wifey is unhappy
OK. Here's the scoop. The A/C does NOT turn on in either the manual
Defrost position or the Defrost/Floor position. It DOES turn on in
the two right positions, Bi-Level and Panel. So the only way to have
the A/C on in defrost mode is to push the A/C button. This is on a
'93 JGC with the Automatic Temperature Control. Same as the OP. I
have owned this Jeep since it was new.
----
On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 21:22:38 -0700, ---- <LeadWinger> wrote:
>The service manual does say that the compressor is on during
>Floor/Defrost and Defrost modes, and when the A/C button is depressed.
>However, the owner's manual states that putting the ATC in defrost
>mode is full manual override, and that the A/C button must be
>depressed to get cooling (it doesn't say you have to depress it in
>defrost, but it doesn't say you don't need to either.) I am going to
>try it tomorrow, and see if the compressor comes on in manual defrost
>mode.
>
>----
>
>On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 19:20:10 -0700, Lon <lon.stowell@comcast.net>
>wrote:
>
>> It isn't debatable on the ZJ, particularly with the ATC. Is noted in
>> the owners and factory service manual as that is the way it works.
>>
>> I honestly don't know of any modern car with A/C that doesn't turn on
>> the AC with the defroster, but that doesn't mean you are totally
>> incorrect.
>>
>>Jeff Strickland proclaimed:
>>> "Like it should" is debatable. None of the cars that I currently own
>>> switch the AC on with the Defroster. The defroster is really just a
>>> selection of which vent holes you want the air to blow out of. Sure,
>>> some cars will switch the AC on if defrost is set, but this is not a
>>> requirement, and just because the AC does not come on by itself doesn't
>>> necessarily point to a problem. If you can set the defrost and turn the
>>> AC on at the same time, then you have what you were meant to have, or
>>> you have something that can work, and gives you options of where the air
>>> should blow from whether or not the AC is on.
Defrost position or the Defrost/Floor position. It DOES turn on in
the two right positions, Bi-Level and Panel. So the only way to have
the A/C on in defrost mode is to push the A/C button. This is on a
'93 JGC with the Automatic Temperature Control. Same as the OP. I
have owned this Jeep since it was new.
----
On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 21:22:38 -0700, ---- <LeadWinger> wrote:
>The service manual does say that the compressor is on during
>Floor/Defrost and Defrost modes, and when the A/C button is depressed.
>However, the owner's manual states that putting the ATC in defrost
>mode is full manual override, and that the A/C button must be
>depressed to get cooling (it doesn't say you have to depress it in
>defrost, but it doesn't say you don't need to either.) I am going to
>try it tomorrow, and see if the compressor comes on in manual defrost
>mode.
>
>----
>
>On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 19:20:10 -0700, Lon <lon.stowell@comcast.net>
>wrote:
>
>> It isn't debatable on the ZJ, particularly with the ATC. Is noted in
>> the owners and factory service manual as that is the way it works.
>>
>> I honestly don't know of any modern car with A/C that doesn't turn on
>> the AC with the defroster, but that doesn't mean you are totally
>> incorrect.
>>
>>Jeff Strickland proclaimed:
>>> "Like it should" is debatable. None of the cars that I currently own
>>> switch the AC on with the Defroster. The defroster is really just a
>>> selection of which vent holes you want the air to blow out of. Sure,
>>> some cars will switch the AC on if defrost is set, but this is not a
>>> requirement, and just because the AC does not come on by itself doesn't
>>> necessarily point to a problem. If you can set the defrost and turn the
>>> AC on at the same time, then you have what you were meant to have, or
>>> you have something that can work, and gives you options of where the air
>>> should blow from whether or not the AC is on.
#68
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Re: ZJ defogging problem, wifey is unhappy
Okay, but if that feature is broken/defeated, but the AC can be manually
turned on, then manually turn it on and get on with life.
I can see where somebody might not know that turning the AC on in Defrost
will remove fog on the inside of the glass, but searching for a service
center to fix it when the AC has to be switched on manually is probably not
a good use of perfectly fine money or time. Personally, I prefer the AC to
NOT turn on automatically at any time. I like the air to be directed to
various locations inside my car without regard to what other life support
systems mught be engaged, or not engaged.
"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:ivadnb_Rsf9BYKTeRVn-qQ@comcast.com...
> It isn't debatable on the ZJ, particularly with the ATC. Is noted in
> the owners and factory service manual as that is the way it works.
>
> I honestly don't know of any modern car with A/C that doesn't turn on
> the AC with the defroster, but that doesn't mean you are totally
> incorrect.
>
> Jeff Strickland proclaimed:
>> "Like it should" is debatable. None of the cars that I currently own
>> switch the AC on with the Defroster. The defroster is really just a
>> selection of which vent holes you want the air to blow out of. Sure, some
>> cars will switch the AC on if defrost is set, but this is not a
>> requirement, and just because the AC does not come on by itself doesn't
>> necessarily point to a problem. If you can set the defrost and turn the
>> AC on at the same time, then you have what you were meant to have, or you
>> have something that can work, and gives you options of where the air
>> should blow from whether or not the AC is on.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:7Z_Ze.1869$cq2.362273@news20.bellglobal.com.. .
>>
>>> Thanks Gents, I'll try some of these things on the way to work tonight.
>>> Think I need to ascertain first if the ac is actually turning on when
>>> set to defrost like it should.. We'll see what happens.
>>>
>>> Snow...
>>>
>>>
>>
turned on, then manually turn it on and get on with life.
I can see where somebody might not know that turning the AC on in Defrost
will remove fog on the inside of the glass, but searching for a service
center to fix it when the AC has to be switched on manually is probably not
a good use of perfectly fine money or time. Personally, I prefer the AC to
NOT turn on automatically at any time. I like the air to be directed to
various locations inside my car without regard to what other life support
systems mught be engaged, or not engaged.
"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:ivadnb_Rsf9BYKTeRVn-qQ@comcast.com...
> It isn't debatable on the ZJ, particularly with the ATC. Is noted in
> the owners and factory service manual as that is the way it works.
>
> I honestly don't know of any modern car with A/C that doesn't turn on
> the AC with the defroster, but that doesn't mean you are totally
> incorrect.
>
> Jeff Strickland proclaimed:
>> "Like it should" is debatable. None of the cars that I currently own
>> switch the AC on with the Defroster. The defroster is really just a
>> selection of which vent holes you want the air to blow out of. Sure, some
>> cars will switch the AC on if defrost is set, but this is not a
>> requirement, and just because the AC does not come on by itself doesn't
>> necessarily point to a problem. If you can set the defrost and turn the
>> AC on at the same time, then you have what you were meant to have, or you
>> have something that can work, and gives you options of where the air
>> should blow from whether or not the AC is on.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:7Z_Ze.1869$cq2.362273@news20.bellglobal.com.. .
>>
>>> Thanks Gents, I'll try some of these things on the way to work tonight.
>>> Think I need to ascertain first if the ac is actually turning on when
>>> set to defrost like it should.. We'll see what happens.
>>>
>>> Snow...
>>>
>>>
>>
#69
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: ZJ defogging problem, wifey is unhappy
Okay, but if that feature is broken/defeated, but the AC can be manually
turned on, then manually turn it on and get on with life.
I can see where somebody might not know that turning the AC on in Defrost
will remove fog on the inside of the glass, but searching for a service
center to fix it when the AC has to be switched on manually is probably not
a good use of perfectly fine money or time. Personally, I prefer the AC to
NOT turn on automatically at any time. I like the air to be directed to
various locations inside my car without regard to what other life support
systems mught be engaged, or not engaged.
"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:ivadnb_Rsf9BYKTeRVn-qQ@comcast.com...
> It isn't debatable on the ZJ, particularly with the ATC. Is noted in
> the owners and factory service manual as that is the way it works.
>
> I honestly don't know of any modern car with A/C that doesn't turn on
> the AC with the defroster, but that doesn't mean you are totally
> incorrect.
>
> Jeff Strickland proclaimed:
>> "Like it should" is debatable. None of the cars that I currently own
>> switch the AC on with the Defroster. The defroster is really just a
>> selection of which vent holes you want the air to blow out of. Sure, some
>> cars will switch the AC on if defrost is set, but this is not a
>> requirement, and just because the AC does not come on by itself doesn't
>> necessarily point to a problem. If you can set the defrost and turn the
>> AC on at the same time, then you have what you were meant to have, or you
>> have something that can work, and gives you options of where the air
>> should blow from whether or not the AC is on.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:7Z_Ze.1869$cq2.362273@news20.bellglobal.com.. .
>>
>>> Thanks Gents, I'll try some of these things on the way to work tonight.
>>> Think I need to ascertain first if the ac is actually turning on when
>>> set to defrost like it should.. We'll see what happens.
>>>
>>> Snow...
>>>
>>>
>>
turned on, then manually turn it on and get on with life.
I can see where somebody might not know that turning the AC on in Defrost
will remove fog on the inside of the glass, but searching for a service
center to fix it when the AC has to be switched on manually is probably not
a good use of perfectly fine money or time. Personally, I prefer the AC to
NOT turn on automatically at any time. I like the air to be directed to
various locations inside my car without regard to what other life support
systems mught be engaged, or not engaged.
"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:ivadnb_Rsf9BYKTeRVn-qQ@comcast.com...
> It isn't debatable on the ZJ, particularly with the ATC. Is noted in
> the owners and factory service manual as that is the way it works.
>
> I honestly don't know of any modern car with A/C that doesn't turn on
> the AC with the defroster, but that doesn't mean you are totally
> incorrect.
>
> Jeff Strickland proclaimed:
>> "Like it should" is debatable. None of the cars that I currently own
>> switch the AC on with the Defroster. The defroster is really just a
>> selection of which vent holes you want the air to blow out of. Sure, some
>> cars will switch the AC on if defrost is set, but this is not a
>> requirement, and just because the AC does not come on by itself doesn't
>> necessarily point to a problem. If you can set the defrost and turn the
>> AC on at the same time, then you have what you were meant to have, or you
>> have something that can work, and gives you options of where the air
>> should blow from whether or not the AC is on.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:7Z_Ze.1869$cq2.362273@news20.bellglobal.com.. .
>>
>>> Thanks Gents, I'll try some of these things on the way to work tonight.
>>> Think I need to ascertain first if the ac is actually turning on when
>>> set to defrost like it should.. We'll see what happens.
>>>
>>> Snow...
>>>
>>>
>>
#70
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: ZJ defogging problem, wifey is unhappy
Okay, but if that feature is broken/defeated, but the AC can be manually
turned on, then manually turn it on and get on with life.
I can see where somebody might not know that turning the AC on in Defrost
will remove fog on the inside of the glass, but searching for a service
center to fix it when the AC has to be switched on manually is probably not
a good use of perfectly fine money or time. Personally, I prefer the AC to
NOT turn on automatically at any time. I like the air to be directed to
various locations inside my car without regard to what other life support
systems mught be engaged, or not engaged.
"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:ivadnb_Rsf9BYKTeRVn-qQ@comcast.com...
> It isn't debatable on the ZJ, particularly with the ATC. Is noted in
> the owners and factory service manual as that is the way it works.
>
> I honestly don't know of any modern car with A/C that doesn't turn on
> the AC with the defroster, but that doesn't mean you are totally
> incorrect.
>
> Jeff Strickland proclaimed:
>> "Like it should" is debatable. None of the cars that I currently own
>> switch the AC on with the Defroster. The defroster is really just a
>> selection of which vent holes you want the air to blow out of. Sure, some
>> cars will switch the AC on if defrost is set, but this is not a
>> requirement, and just because the AC does not come on by itself doesn't
>> necessarily point to a problem. If you can set the defrost and turn the
>> AC on at the same time, then you have what you were meant to have, or you
>> have something that can work, and gives you options of where the air
>> should blow from whether or not the AC is on.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:7Z_Ze.1869$cq2.362273@news20.bellglobal.com.. .
>>
>>> Thanks Gents, I'll try some of these things on the way to work tonight.
>>> Think I need to ascertain first if the ac is actually turning on when
>>> set to defrost like it should.. We'll see what happens.
>>>
>>> Snow...
>>>
>>>
>>
turned on, then manually turn it on and get on with life.
I can see where somebody might not know that turning the AC on in Defrost
will remove fog on the inside of the glass, but searching for a service
center to fix it when the AC has to be switched on manually is probably not
a good use of perfectly fine money or time. Personally, I prefer the AC to
NOT turn on automatically at any time. I like the air to be directed to
various locations inside my car without regard to what other life support
systems mught be engaged, or not engaged.
"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:ivadnb_Rsf9BYKTeRVn-qQ@comcast.com...
> It isn't debatable on the ZJ, particularly with the ATC. Is noted in
> the owners and factory service manual as that is the way it works.
>
> I honestly don't know of any modern car with A/C that doesn't turn on
> the AC with the defroster, but that doesn't mean you are totally
> incorrect.
>
> Jeff Strickland proclaimed:
>> "Like it should" is debatable. None of the cars that I currently own
>> switch the AC on with the Defroster. The defroster is really just a
>> selection of which vent holes you want the air to blow out of. Sure, some
>> cars will switch the AC on if defrost is set, but this is not a
>> requirement, and just because the AC does not come on by itself doesn't
>> necessarily point to a problem. If you can set the defrost and turn the
>> AC on at the same time, then you have what you were meant to have, or you
>> have something that can work, and gives you options of where the air
>> should blow from whether or not the AC is on.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:7Z_Ze.1869$cq2.362273@news20.bellglobal.com.. .
>>
>>> Thanks Gents, I'll try some of these things on the way to work tonight.
>>> Think I need to ascertain first if the ac is actually turning on when
>>> set to defrost like it should.. We'll see what happens.
>>>
>>> Snow...
>>>
>>>
>>