ZJ defogging problem, wifey is unhappy
09-27-2005, 08:14 AM
#51
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Re: ZJ defogging problem, wifey is unhappy
I thought all vehicles with AC automatically switched on the AC compressor
when the defrost mode is selected. I thought that was standard for the last
20 or 30 years or so. All the GM, Ford, and Jeep vehicles that I have owned
for the last 30 years have done that.
Tom
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:oMCdnccICqReOqXeRVn-1w@ez2.net...
> "Like it should" is debatable. None of the cars that I currently own
switch
> the AC on with the Defroster. The defroster is really just a selection of
> which vent holes you want the air to blow out of. Sure, some cars will
> switch the AC on if defrost is set, but this is not a requirement, and
just
> because the AC does not come on by itself doesn't necessarily point to a
> problem. If you can set the defrost and turn the AC on at the same time,
> then you have what you were meant to have, or you have something that can
> work, and gives you options of where the air should blow from whether or
not
> the AC is on.
>
when the defrost mode is selected. I thought that was standard for the last
20 or 30 years or so. All the GM, Ford, and Jeep vehicles that I have owned
for the last 30 years have done that.
Tom
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:oMCdnccICqReOqXeRVn-1w@ez2.net...
> "Like it should" is debatable. None of the cars that I currently own
switch
> the AC on with the Defroster. The defroster is really just a selection of
> which vent holes you want the air to blow out of. Sure, some cars will
> switch the AC on if defrost is set, but this is not a requirement, and
just
> because the AC does not come on by itself doesn't necessarily point to a
> problem. If you can set the defrost and turn the AC on at the same time,
> then you have what you were meant to have, or you have something that can
> work, and gives you options of where the air should blow from whether or
not
> the AC is on.
>
09-27-2005, 08:14 AM
#52
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Re: ZJ defogging problem, wifey is unhappy
I thought all vehicles with AC automatically switched on the AC compressor
when the defrost mode is selected. I thought that was standard for the last
20 or 30 years or so. All the GM, Ford, and Jeep vehicles that I have owned
for the last 30 years have done that.
Tom
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:oMCdnccICqReOqXeRVn-1w@ez2.net...
> "Like it should" is debatable. None of the cars that I currently own
switch
> the AC on with the Defroster. The defroster is really just a selection of
> which vent holes you want the air to blow out of. Sure, some cars will
> switch the AC on if defrost is set, but this is not a requirement, and
just
> because the AC does not come on by itself doesn't necessarily point to a
> problem. If you can set the defrost and turn the AC on at the same time,
> then you have what you were meant to have, or you have something that can
> work, and gives you options of where the air should blow from whether or
not
> the AC is on.
>
when the defrost mode is selected. I thought that was standard for the last
20 or 30 years or so. All the GM, Ford, and Jeep vehicles that I have owned
for the last 30 years have done that.
Tom
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:oMCdnccICqReOqXeRVn-1w@ez2.net...
> "Like it should" is debatable. None of the cars that I currently own
switch
> the AC on with the Defroster. The defroster is really just a selection of
> which vent holes you want the air to blow out of. Sure, some cars will
> switch the AC on if defrost is set, but this is not a requirement, and
just
> because the AC does not come on by itself doesn't necessarily point to a
> problem. If you can set the defrost and turn the AC on at the same time,
> then you have what you were meant to have, or you have something that can
> work, and gives you options of where the air should blow from whether or
not
> the AC is on.
>
09-27-2005, 11:10 AM
#53
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Re: ZJ defogging problem, wifey is unhappy
I can see where you might think that, but it isn't true. My BMW, Mazda MPV,
and Toyota Tacoma -- I need to double check the Toyota -- do not
automatically switch the AC on when the controls are set to Defrost. I
prefer it this way, by the way.
If you think about it, you want to control the mode of operation and the air
flow separately. You might WANT the air to come out of the defrost vents so
that the hot air isn't in your face, so you would want to run the AC
separately from the selection of defrost. You're right though, lots of cars
take this selection away from us, and they switch the AC on whenever the
Defrost is selected. I understand why they do this, but I like the ability
to make my own choice. Technically, one can have the heater on -- no AC --
and have fogging problems, and setting the AC on in this case will solve the
fogging without using the defrost. So, the defroster isn't the key to
unfogging the windows, and setting the AC on just because the defroster is
selected makes no sense if one pauses to ponder the issue.
"mabar" <xyzz4567@HotPop.com> wrote in message
news:433937b2$1_1@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>I thought all vehicles with AC automatically switched on the AC compressor
> when the defrost mode is selected. I thought that was standard for the
> last
> 20 or 30 years or so. All the GM, Ford, and Jeep vehicles that I have
> owned
> for the last 30 years have done that.
>
> Tom
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:oMCdnccICqReOqXeRVn-1w@ez2.net...
>> "Like it should" is debatable. None of the cars that I currently own
> switch
>> the AC on with the Defroster. The defroster is really just a selection of
>> which vent holes you want the air to blow out of. Sure, some cars will
>> switch the AC on if defrost is set, but this is not a requirement, and
> just
>> because the AC does not come on by itself doesn't necessarily point to a
>> problem. If you can set the defrost and turn the AC on at the same time,
>> then you have what you were meant to have, or you have something that can
>> work, and gives you options of where the air should blow from whether or
> not
>> the AC is on.
>>
>
>
and Toyota Tacoma -- I need to double check the Toyota -- do not
automatically switch the AC on when the controls are set to Defrost. I
prefer it this way, by the way.
If you think about it, you want to control the mode of operation and the air
flow separately. You might WANT the air to come out of the defrost vents so
that the hot air isn't in your face, so you would want to run the AC
separately from the selection of defrost. You're right though, lots of cars
take this selection away from us, and they switch the AC on whenever the
Defrost is selected. I understand why they do this, but I like the ability
to make my own choice. Technically, one can have the heater on -- no AC --
and have fogging problems, and setting the AC on in this case will solve the
fogging without using the defrost. So, the defroster isn't the key to
unfogging the windows, and setting the AC on just because the defroster is
selected makes no sense if one pauses to ponder the issue.
"mabar" <xyzz4567@HotPop.com> wrote in message
news:433937b2$1_1@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>I thought all vehicles with AC automatically switched on the AC compressor
> when the defrost mode is selected. I thought that was standard for the
> last
> 20 or 30 years or so. All the GM, Ford, and Jeep vehicles that I have
> owned
> for the last 30 years have done that.
>
> Tom
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:oMCdnccICqReOqXeRVn-1w@ez2.net...
>> "Like it should" is debatable. None of the cars that I currently own
> switch
>> the AC on with the Defroster. The defroster is really just a selection of
>> which vent holes you want the air to blow out of. Sure, some cars will
>> switch the AC on if defrost is set, but this is not a requirement, and
> just
>> because the AC does not come on by itself doesn't necessarily point to a
>> problem. If you can set the defrost and turn the AC on at the same time,
>> then you have what you were meant to have, or you have something that can
>> work, and gives you options of where the air should blow from whether or
> not
>> the AC is on.
>>
>
>
09-27-2005, 11:10 AM
#54
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Re: ZJ defogging problem, wifey is unhappy
I can see where you might think that, but it isn't true. My BMW, Mazda MPV,
and Toyota Tacoma -- I need to double check the Toyota -- do not
automatically switch the AC on when the controls are set to Defrost. I
prefer it this way, by the way.
If you think about it, you want to control the mode of operation and the air
flow separately. You might WANT the air to come out of the defrost vents so
that the hot air isn't in your face, so you would want to run the AC
separately from the selection of defrost. You're right though, lots of cars
take this selection away from us, and they switch the AC on whenever the
Defrost is selected. I understand why they do this, but I like the ability
to make my own choice. Technically, one can have the heater on -- no AC --
and have fogging problems, and setting the AC on in this case will solve the
fogging without using the defrost. So, the defroster isn't the key to
unfogging the windows, and setting the AC on just because the defroster is
selected makes no sense if one pauses to ponder the issue.
"mabar" <xyzz4567@HotPop.com> wrote in message
news:433937b2$1_1@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>I thought all vehicles with AC automatically switched on the AC compressor
> when the defrost mode is selected. I thought that was standard for the
> last
> 20 or 30 years or so. All the GM, Ford, and Jeep vehicles that I have
> owned
> for the last 30 years have done that.
>
> Tom
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:oMCdnccICqReOqXeRVn-1w@ez2.net...
>> "Like it should" is debatable. None of the cars that I currently own
> switch
>> the AC on with the Defroster. The defroster is really just a selection of
>> which vent holes you want the air to blow out of. Sure, some cars will
>> switch the AC on if defrost is set, but this is not a requirement, and
> just
>> because the AC does not come on by itself doesn't necessarily point to a
>> problem. If you can set the defrost and turn the AC on at the same time,
>> then you have what you were meant to have, or you have something that can
>> work, and gives you options of where the air should blow from whether or
> not
>> the AC is on.
>>
>
>
and Toyota Tacoma -- I need to double check the Toyota -- do not
automatically switch the AC on when the controls are set to Defrost. I
prefer it this way, by the way.
If you think about it, you want to control the mode of operation and the air
flow separately. You might WANT the air to come out of the defrost vents so
that the hot air isn't in your face, so you would want to run the AC
separately from the selection of defrost. You're right though, lots of cars
take this selection away from us, and they switch the AC on whenever the
Defrost is selected. I understand why they do this, but I like the ability
to make my own choice. Technically, one can have the heater on -- no AC --
and have fogging problems, and setting the AC on in this case will solve the
fogging without using the defrost. So, the defroster isn't the key to
unfogging the windows, and setting the AC on just because the defroster is
selected makes no sense if one pauses to ponder the issue.
"mabar" <xyzz4567@HotPop.com> wrote in message
news:433937b2$1_1@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>I thought all vehicles with AC automatically switched on the AC compressor
> when the defrost mode is selected. I thought that was standard for the
> last
> 20 or 30 years or so. All the GM, Ford, and Jeep vehicles that I have
> owned
> for the last 30 years have done that.
>
> Tom
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:oMCdnccICqReOqXeRVn-1w@ez2.net...
>> "Like it should" is debatable. None of the cars that I currently own
> switch
>> the AC on with the Defroster. The defroster is really just a selection of
>> which vent holes you want the air to blow out of. Sure, some cars will
>> switch the AC on if defrost is set, but this is not a requirement, and
> just
>> because the AC does not come on by itself doesn't necessarily point to a
>> problem. If you can set the defrost and turn the AC on at the same time,
>> then you have what you were meant to have, or you have something that can
>> work, and gives you options of where the air should blow from whether or
> not
>> the AC is on.
>>
>
>
09-27-2005, 11:10 AM
#55
Guest
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Re: ZJ defogging problem, wifey is unhappy
I can see where you might think that, but it isn't true. My BMW, Mazda MPV,
and Toyota Tacoma -- I need to double check the Toyota -- do not
automatically switch the AC on when the controls are set to Defrost. I
prefer it this way, by the way.
If you think about it, you want to control the mode of operation and the air
flow separately. You might WANT the air to come out of the defrost vents so
that the hot air isn't in your face, so you would want to run the AC
separately from the selection of defrost. You're right though, lots of cars
take this selection away from us, and they switch the AC on whenever the
Defrost is selected. I understand why they do this, but I like the ability
to make my own choice. Technically, one can have the heater on -- no AC --
and have fogging problems, and setting the AC on in this case will solve the
fogging without using the defrost. So, the defroster isn't the key to
unfogging the windows, and setting the AC on just because the defroster is
selected makes no sense if one pauses to ponder the issue.
"mabar" <xyzz4567@HotPop.com> wrote in message
news:433937b2$1_1@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>I thought all vehicles with AC automatically switched on the AC compressor
> when the defrost mode is selected. I thought that was standard for the
> last
> 20 or 30 years or so. All the GM, Ford, and Jeep vehicles that I have
> owned
> for the last 30 years have done that.
>
> Tom
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:oMCdnccICqReOqXeRVn-1w@ez2.net...
>> "Like it should" is debatable. None of the cars that I currently own
> switch
>> the AC on with the Defroster. The defroster is really just a selection of
>> which vent holes you want the air to blow out of. Sure, some cars will
>> switch the AC on if defrost is set, but this is not a requirement, and
> just
>> because the AC does not come on by itself doesn't necessarily point to a
>> problem. If you can set the defrost and turn the AC on at the same time,
>> then you have what you were meant to have, or you have something that can
>> work, and gives you options of where the air should blow from whether or
> not
>> the AC is on.
>>
>
>
and Toyota Tacoma -- I need to double check the Toyota -- do not
automatically switch the AC on when the controls are set to Defrost. I
prefer it this way, by the way.
If you think about it, you want to control the mode of operation and the air
flow separately. You might WANT the air to come out of the defrost vents so
that the hot air isn't in your face, so you would want to run the AC
separately from the selection of defrost. You're right though, lots of cars
take this selection away from us, and they switch the AC on whenever the
Defrost is selected. I understand why they do this, but I like the ability
to make my own choice. Technically, one can have the heater on -- no AC --
and have fogging problems, and setting the AC on in this case will solve the
fogging without using the defrost. So, the defroster isn't the key to
unfogging the windows, and setting the AC on just because the defroster is
selected makes no sense if one pauses to ponder the issue.
"mabar" <xyzz4567@HotPop.com> wrote in message
news:433937b2$1_1@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>I thought all vehicles with AC automatically switched on the AC compressor
> when the defrost mode is selected. I thought that was standard for the
> last
> 20 or 30 years or so. All the GM, Ford, and Jeep vehicles that I have
> owned
> for the last 30 years have done that.
>
> Tom
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:oMCdnccICqReOqXeRVn-1w@ez2.net...
>> "Like it should" is debatable. None of the cars that I currently own
> switch
>> the AC on with the Defroster. The defroster is really just a selection of
>> which vent holes you want the air to blow out of. Sure, some cars will
>> switch the AC on if defrost is set, but this is not a requirement, and
> just
>> because the AC does not come on by itself doesn't necessarily point to a
>> problem. If you can set the defrost and turn the AC on at the same time,
>> then you have what you were meant to have, or you have something that can
>> work, and gives you options of where the air should blow from whether or
> not
>> the AC is on.
>>
>
>
09-27-2005, 02:35 PM
#56
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Re: ZJ defogging problem, wifey is unhappy
Got to be a leaky heater core...
Earle
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:2c2dnUHKR-me_KTeRVn-qA@ez2.net...
> I can see where you might think that, but it isn't true. My BMW, Mazda
MPV,
> and Toyota Tacoma -- I need to double check the Toyota -- do not
> automatically switch the AC on when the controls are set to Defrost. I
> prefer it this way, by the way.
>
> If you think about it, you want to control the mode of operation and the
air
> flow separately. You might WANT the air to come out of the defrost vents
so
> that the hot air isn't in your face, so you would want to run the AC
> separately from the selection of defrost. You're right though, lots of
cars
> take this selection away from us, and they switch the AC on whenever the
> Defrost is selected. I understand why they do this, but I like the ability
> to make my own choice. Technically, one can have the heater on -- no AC --
> and have fogging problems, and setting the AC on in this case will solve
the
> fogging without using the defrost. So, the defroster isn't the key to
> unfogging the windows, and setting the AC on just because the defroster is
> selected makes no sense if one pauses to ponder the issue.
>
>
>
>
> "mabar" <xyzz4567@HotPop.com> wrote in message
> news:433937b2$1_1@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> >I thought all vehicles with AC automatically switched on the AC
compressor
> > when the defrost mode is selected. I thought that was standard for the
> > last
> > 20 or 30 years or so. All the GM, Ford, and Jeep vehicles that I have
> > owned
> > for the last 30 years have done that.
> >
> > Tom
> >
> > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:oMCdnccICqReOqXeRVn-1w@ez2.net...
> >> "Like it should" is debatable. None of the cars that I currently own
> > switch
> >> the AC on with the Defroster. The defroster is really just a selection
of
> >> which vent holes you want the air to blow out of. Sure, some cars will
> >> switch the AC on if defrost is set, but this is not a requirement, and
> > just
> >> because the AC does not come on by itself doesn't necessarily point to
a
> >> problem. If you can set the defrost and turn the AC on at the same
time,
> >> then you have what you were meant to have, or you have something that
can
> >> work, and gives you options of where the air should blow from whether
or
> > not
> >> the AC is on.
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
Earle
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:2c2dnUHKR-me_KTeRVn-qA@ez2.net...
> I can see where you might think that, but it isn't true. My BMW, Mazda
MPV,
> and Toyota Tacoma -- I need to double check the Toyota -- do not
> automatically switch the AC on when the controls are set to Defrost. I
> prefer it this way, by the way.
>
> If you think about it, you want to control the mode of operation and the
air
> flow separately. You might WANT the air to come out of the defrost vents
so
> that the hot air isn't in your face, so you would want to run the AC
> separately from the selection of defrost. You're right though, lots of
cars
> take this selection away from us, and they switch the AC on whenever the
> Defrost is selected. I understand why they do this, but I like the ability
> to make my own choice. Technically, one can have the heater on -- no AC --
> and have fogging problems, and setting the AC on in this case will solve
the
> fogging without using the defrost. So, the defroster isn't the key to
> unfogging the windows, and setting the AC on just because the defroster is
> selected makes no sense if one pauses to ponder the issue.
>
>
>
>
> "mabar" <xyzz4567@HotPop.com> wrote in message
> news:433937b2$1_1@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> >I thought all vehicles with AC automatically switched on the AC
compressor
> > when the defrost mode is selected. I thought that was standard for the
> > last
> > 20 or 30 years or so. All the GM, Ford, and Jeep vehicles that I have
> > owned
> > for the last 30 years have done that.
> >
> > Tom
> >
> > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:oMCdnccICqReOqXeRVn-1w@ez2.net...
> >> "Like it should" is debatable. None of the cars that I currently own
> > switch
> >> the AC on with the Defroster. The defroster is really just a selection
of
> >> which vent holes you want the air to blow out of. Sure, some cars will
> >> switch the AC on if defrost is set, but this is not a requirement, and
> > just
> >> because the AC does not come on by itself doesn't necessarily point to
a
> >> problem. If you can set the defrost and turn the AC on at the same
time,
> >> then you have what you were meant to have, or you have something that
can
> >> work, and gives you options of where the air should blow from whether
or
> > not
> >> the AC is on.
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
09-27-2005, 02:35 PM
#57
Guest
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Re: ZJ defogging problem, wifey is unhappy
Got to be a leaky heater core...
Earle
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:2c2dnUHKR-me_KTeRVn-qA@ez2.net...
> I can see where you might think that, but it isn't true. My BMW, Mazda
MPV,
> and Toyota Tacoma -- I need to double check the Toyota -- do not
> automatically switch the AC on when the controls are set to Defrost. I
> prefer it this way, by the way.
>
> If you think about it, you want to control the mode of operation and the
air
> flow separately. You might WANT the air to come out of the defrost vents
so
> that the hot air isn't in your face, so you would want to run the AC
> separately from the selection of defrost. You're right though, lots of
cars
> take this selection away from us, and they switch the AC on whenever the
> Defrost is selected. I understand why they do this, but I like the ability
> to make my own choice. Technically, one can have the heater on -- no AC --
> and have fogging problems, and setting the AC on in this case will solve
the
> fogging without using the defrost. So, the defroster isn't the key to
> unfogging the windows, and setting the AC on just because the defroster is
> selected makes no sense if one pauses to ponder the issue.
>
>
>
>
> "mabar" <xyzz4567@HotPop.com> wrote in message
> news:433937b2$1_1@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> >I thought all vehicles with AC automatically switched on the AC
compressor
> > when the defrost mode is selected. I thought that was standard for the
> > last
> > 20 or 30 years or so. All the GM, Ford, and Jeep vehicles that I have
> > owned
> > for the last 30 years have done that.
> >
> > Tom
> >
> > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:oMCdnccICqReOqXeRVn-1w@ez2.net...
> >> "Like it should" is debatable. None of the cars that I currently own
> > switch
> >> the AC on with the Defroster. The defroster is really just a selection
of
> >> which vent holes you want the air to blow out of. Sure, some cars will
> >> switch the AC on if defrost is set, but this is not a requirement, and
> > just
> >> because the AC does not come on by itself doesn't necessarily point to
a
> >> problem. If you can set the defrost and turn the AC on at the same
time,
> >> then you have what you were meant to have, or you have something that
can
> >> work, and gives you options of where the air should blow from whether
or
> > not
> >> the AC is on.
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
Earle
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:2c2dnUHKR-me_KTeRVn-qA@ez2.net...
> I can see where you might think that, but it isn't true. My BMW, Mazda
MPV,
> and Toyota Tacoma -- I need to double check the Toyota -- do not
> automatically switch the AC on when the controls are set to Defrost. I
> prefer it this way, by the way.
>
> If you think about it, you want to control the mode of operation and the
air
> flow separately. You might WANT the air to come out of the defrost vents
so
> that the hot air isn't in your face, so you would want to run the AC
> separately from the selection of defrost. You're right though, lots of
cars
> take this selection away from us, and they switch the AC on whenever the
> Defrost is selected. I understand why they do this, but I like the ability
> to make my own choice. Technically, one can have the heater on -- no AC --
> and have fogging problems, and setting the AC on in this case will solve
the
> fogging without using the defrost. So, the defroster isn't the key to
> unfogging the windows, and setting the AC on just because the defroster is
> selected makes no sense if one pauses to ponder the issue.
>
>
>
>
> "mabar" <xyzz4567@HotPop.com> wrote in message
> news:433937b2$1_1@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> >I thought all vehicles with AC automatically switched on the AC
compressor
> > when the defrost mode is selected. I thought that was standard for the
> > last
> > 20 or 30 years or so. All the GM, Ford, and Jeep vehicles that I have
> > owned
> > for the last 30 years have done that.
> >
> > Tom
> >
> > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:oMCdnccICqReOqXeRVn-1w@ez2.net...
> >> "Like it should" is debatable. None of the cars that I currently own
> > switch
> >> the AC on with the Defroster. The defroster is really just a selection
of
> >> which vent holes you want the air to blow out of. Sure, some cars will
> >> switch the AC on if defrost is set, but this is not a requirement, and
> > just
> >> because the AC does not come on by itself doesn't necessarily point to
a
> >> problem. If you can set the defrost and turn the AC on at the same
time,
> >> then you have what you were meant to have, or you have something that
can
> >> work, and gives you options of where the air should blow from whether
or
> > not
> >> the AC is on.
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
09-27-2005, 02:35 PM
#58
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: ZJ defogging problem, wifey is unhappy
Got to be a leaky heater core...
Earle
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:2c2dnUHKR-me_KTeRVn-qA@ez2.net...
> I can see where you might think that, but it isn't true. My BMW, Mazda
MPV,
> and Toyota Tacoma -- I need to double check the Toyota -- do not
> automatically switch the AC on when the controls are set to Defrost. I
> prefer it this way, by the way.
>
> If you think about it, you want to control the mode of operation and the
air
> flow separately. You might WANT the air to come out of the defrost vents
so
> that the hot air isn't in your face, so you would want to run the AC
> separately from the selection of defrost. You're right though, lots of
cars
> take this selection away from us, and they switch the AC on whenever the
> Defrost is selected. I understand why they do this, but I like the ability
> to make my own choice. Technically, one can have the heater on -- no AC --
> and have fogging problems, and setting the AC on in this case will solve
the
> fogging without using the defrost. So, the defroster isn't the key to
> unfogging the windows, and setting the AC on just because the defroster is
> selected makes no sense if one pauses to ponder the issue.
>
>
>
>
> "mabar" <xyzz4567@HotPop.com> wrote in message
> news:433937b2$1_1@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> >I thought all vehicles with AC automatically switched on the AC
compressor
> > when the defrost mode is selected. I thought that was standard for the
> > last
> > 20 or 30 years or so. All the GM, Ford, and Jeep vehicles that I have
> > owned
> > for the last 30 years have done that.
> >
> > Tom
> >
> > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:oMCdnccICqReOqXeRVn-1w@ez2.net...
> >> "Like it should" is debatable. None of the cars that I currently own
> > switch
> >> the AC on with the Defroster. The defroster is really just a selection
of
> >> which vent holes you want the air to blow out of. Sure, some cars will
> >> switch the AC on if defrost is set, but this is not a requirement, and
> > just
> >> because the AC does not come on by itself doesn't necessarily point to
a
> >> problem. If you can set the defrost and turn the AC on at the same
time,
> >> then you have what you were meant to have, or you have something that
can
> >> work, and gives you options of where the air should blow from whether
or
> > not
> >> the AC is on.
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
Earle
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:2c2dnUHKR-me_KTeRVn-qA@ez2.net...
> I can see where you might think that, but it isn't true. My BMW, Mazda
MPV,
> and Toyota Tacoma -- I need to double check the Toyota -- do not
> automatically switch the AC on when the controls are set to Defrost. I
> prefer it this way, by the way.
>
> If you think about it, you want to control the mode of operation and the
air
> flow separately. You might WANT the air to come out of the defrost vents
so
> that the hot air isn't in your face, so you would want to run the AC
> separately from the selection of defrost. You're right though, lots of
cars
> take this selection away from us, and they switch the AC on whenever the
> Defrost is selected. I understand why they do this, but I like the ability
> to make my own choice. Technically, one can have the heater on -- no AC --
> and have fogging problems, and setting the AC on in this case will solve
the
> fogging without using the defrost. So, the defroster isn't the key to
> unfogging the windows, and setting the AC on just because the defroster is
> selected makes no sense if one pauses to ponder the issue.
>
>
>
>
> "mabar" <xyzz4567@HotPop.com> wrote in message
> news:433937b2$1_1@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> >I thought all vehicles with AC automatically switched on the AC
compressor
> > when the defrost mode is selected. I thought that was standard for the
> > last
> > 20 or 30 years or so. All the GM, Ford, and Jeep vehicles that I have
> > owned
> > for the last 30 years have done that.
> >
> > Tom
> >
> > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:oMCdnccICqReOqXeRVn-1w@ez2.net...
> >> "Like it should" is debatable. None of the cars that I currently own
> > switch
> >> the AC on with the Defroster. The defroster is really just a selection
of
> >> which vent holes you want the air to blow out of. Sure, some cars will
> >> switch the AC on if defrost is set, but this is not a requirement, and
> > just
> >> because the AC does not come on by itself doesn't necessarily point to
a
> >> problem. If you can set the defrost and turn the AC on at the same
time,
> >> then you have what you were meant to have, or you have something that
can
> >> work, and gives you options of where the air should blow from whether
or
> > not
> >> the AC is on.
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
09-27-2005, 10:20 PM
#59
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: ZJ defogging problem, wifey is unhappy
It isn't debatable on the ZJ, particularly with the ATC. Is noted in
the owners and factory service manual as that is the way it works.
I honestly don't know of any modern car with A/C that doesn't turn on
the AC with the defroster, but that doesn't mean you are totally
incorrect.
Jeff Strickland proclaimed:
> "Like it should" is debatable. None of the cars that I currently own
> switch the AC on with the Defroster. The defroster is really just a
> selection of which vent holes you want the air to blow out of. Sure,
> some cars will switch the AC on if defrost is set, but this is not a
> requirement, and just because the AC does not come on by itself doesn't
> necessarily point to a problem. If you can set the defrost and turn the
> AC on at the same time, then you have what you were meant to have, or
> you have something that can work, and gives you options of where the air
> should blow from whether or not the AC is on.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:7Z_Ze.1869$cq2.362273@news20.bellglobal.com.. .
>
>> Thanks Gents, I'll try some of these things on the way to work
>> tonight. Think I need to ascertain first if the ac is actually turning
>> on when set to defrost like it should.. We'll see what happens.
>>
>> Snow...
>>
>>
>
the owners and factory service manual as that is the way it works.
I honestly don't know of any modern car with A/C that doesn't turn on
the AC with the defroster, but that doesn't mean you are totally
incorrect.
Jeff Strickland proclaimed:
> "Like it should" is debatable. None of the cars that I currently own
> switch the AC on with the Defroster. The defroster is really just a
> selection of which vent holes you want the air to blow out of. Sure,
> some cars will switch the AC on if defrost is set, but this is not a
> requirement, and just because the AC does not come on by itself doesn't
> necessarily point to a problem. If you can set the defrost and turn the
> AC on at the same time, then you have what you were meant to have, or
> you have something that can work, and gives you options of where the air
> should blow from whether or not the AC is on.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:7Z_Ze.1869$cq2.362273@news20.bellglobal.com.. .
>
>> Thanks Gents, I'll try some of these things on the way to work
>> tonight. Think I need to ascertain first if the ac is actually turning
>> on when set to defrost like it should.. We'll see what happens.
>>
>> Snow...
>>
>>
>
09-27-2005, 10:20 PM
#60
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: ZJ defogging problem, wifey is unhappy
It isn't debatable on the ZJ, particularly with the ATC. Is noted in
the owners and factory service manual as that is the way it works.
I honestly don't know of any modern car with A/C that doesn't turn on
the AC with the defroster, but that doesn't mean you are totally
incorrect.
Jeff Strickland proclaimed:
> "Like it should" is debatable. None of the cars that I currently own
> switch the AC on with the Defroster. The defroster is really just a
> selection of which vent holes you want the air to blow out of. Sure,
> some cars will switch the AC on if defrost is set, but this is not a
> requirement, and just because the AC does not come on by itself doesn't
> necessarily point to a problem. If you can set the defrost and turn the
> AC on at the same time, then you have what you were meant to have, or
> you have something that can work, and gives you options of where the air
> should blow from whether or not the AC is on.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:7Z_Ze.1869$cq2.362273@news20.bellglobal.com.. .
>
>> Thanks Gents, I'll try some of these things on the way to work
>> tonight. Think I need to ascertain first if the ac is actually turning
>> on when set to defrost like it should.. We'll see what happens.
>>
>> Snow...
>>
>>
>
the owners and factory service manual as that is the way it works.
I honestly don't know of any modern car with A/C that doesn't turn on
the AC with the defroster, but that doesn't mean you are totally
incorrect.
Jeff Strickland proclaimed:
> "Like it should" is debatable. None of the cars that I currently own
> switch the AC on with the Defroster. The defroster is really just a
> selection of which vent holes you want the air to blow out of. Sure,
> some cars will switch the AC on if defrost is set, but this is not a
> requirement, and just because the AC does not come on by itself doesn't
> necessarily point to a problem. If you can set the defrost and turn the
> AC on at the same time, then you have what you were meant to have, or
> you have something that can work, and gives you options of where the air
> should blow from whether or not the AC is on.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:7Z_Ze.1869$cq2.362273@news20.bellglobal.com.. .
>
>> Thanks Gents, I'll try some of these things on the way to work
>> tonight. Think I need to ascertain first if the ac is actually turning
>> on when set to defrost like it should.. We'll see what happens.
>>
>> Snow...
>>
>>
>