ZJ defogging problem, wifey is unhappy
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Thanks guys, ----, Mike, Earl, Jeff, Lon, Billy Ray and others.
I explained to the wifey how it should work and how if that fails she
should try it (by manually selecting ac on). I'll put the system through
its self test next chance I get and let you know what the results are.
Cheers and thanks again
Snow...
I explained to the wifey how it should work and how if that fails she
should try it (by manually selecting ac on). I'll put the system through
its self test next chance I get and let you know what the results are.
Cheers and thanks again
Snow...
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hvac has a blendair issue. fresh air is not coming in thru the hvac like it's
suppose to
Rich Hampel wrote:
> Rainex - "anti-fog" compound is a solution; but, has to be applied
> often and it does promote the inside windows getting dirtier faster.
> Anti-fog wont totally prevent the windows from fogging up but will be
> much better than nothing.
> She can also use it on the bathroom mirrors at home.
>
> In article <eSRZe.601$l03.117800@news20.bellglobal.com>, Snow
> <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> > Ok, here's the problem on these nice rainy days when the windshield fogs up
> > the defroster has a hell of a time trying to clear it, the wifey is getting
> > a tad upset that she has to drive with the window open to clear the fog
> > (keeps complaining about getting wet... I already handed her a rain
> > coat...didn't go over too good).
> > Any thoughts and ideas would be nice as she stole my XJ today.
> >
> > TIA
> > Snow...
> >
> > oh wifey has a 1993 ZJ, 4.0 :)
> >
> >
suppose to
Rich Hampel wrote:
> Rainex - "anti-fog" compound is a solution; but, has to be applied
> often and it does promote the inside windows getting dirtier faster.
> Anti-fog wont totally prevent the windows from fogging up but will be
> much better than nothing.
> She can also use it on the bathroom mirrors at home.
>
> In article <eSRZe.601$l03.117800@news20.bellglobal.com>, Snow
> <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> > Ok, here's the problem on these nice rainy days when the windshield fogs up
> > the defroster has a hell of a time trying to clear it, the wifey is getting
> > a tad upset that she has to drive with the window open to clear the fog
> > (keeps complaining about getting wet... I already handed her a rain
> > coat...didn't go over too good).
> > Any thoughts and ideas would be nice as she stole my XJ today.
> >
> > TIA
> > Snow...
> >
> > oh wifey has a 1993 ZJ, 4.0 :)
> >
> >
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hvac has a blendair issue. fresh air is not coming in thru the hvac like it's
suppose to
Rich Hampel wrote:
> Rainex - "anti-fog" compound is a solution; but, has to be applied
> often and it does promote the inside windows getting dirtier faster.
> Anti-fog wont totally prevent the windows from fogging up but will be
> much better than nothing.
> She can also use it on the bathroom mirrors at home.
>
> In article <eSRZe.601$l03.117800@news20.bellglobal.com>, Snow
> <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> > Ok, here's the problem on these nice rainy days when the windshield fogs up
> > the defroster has a hell of a time trying to clear it, the wifey is getting
> > a tad upset that she has to drive with the window open to clear the fog
> > (keeps complaining about getting wet... I already handed her a rain
> > coat...didn't go over too good).
> > Any thoughts and ideas would be nice as she stole my XJ today.
> >
> > TIA
> > Snow...
> >
> > oh wifey has a 1993 ZJ, 4.0 :)
> >
> >
suppose to
Rich Hampel wrote:
> Rainex - "anti-fog" compound is a solution; but, has to be applied
> often and it does promote the inside windows getting dirtier faster.
> Anti-fog wont totally prevent the windows from fogging up but will be
> much better than nothing.
> She can also use it on the bathroom mirrors at home.
>
> In article <eSRZe.601$l03.117800@news20.bellglobal.com>, Snow
> <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> > Ok, here's the problem on these nice rainy days when the windshield fogs up
> > the defroster has a hell of a time trying to clear it, the wifey is getting
> > a tad upset that she has to drive with the window open to clear the fog
> > (keeps complaining about getting wet... I already handed her a rain
> > coat...didn't go over too good).
> > Any thoughts and ideas would be nice as she stole my XJ today.
> >
> > TIA
> > Snow...
> >
> > oh wifey has a 1993 ZJ, 4.0 :)
> >
> >
Guest
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hvac has a blendair issue. fresh air is not coming in thru the hvac like it's
suppose to
Rich Hampel wrote:
> Rainex - "anti-fog" compound is a solution; but, has to be applied
> often and it does promote the inside windows getting dirtier faster.
> Anti-fog wont totally prevent the windows from fogging up but will be
> much better than nothing.
> She can also use it on the bathroom mirrors at home.
>
> In article <eSRZe.601$l03.117800@news20.bellglobal.com>, Snow
> <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> > Ok, here's the problem on these nice rainy days when the windshield fogs up
> > the defroster has a hell of a time trying to clear it, the wifey is getting
> > a tad upset that she has to drive with the window open to clear the fog
> > (keeps complaining about getting wet... I already handed her a rain
> > coat...didn't go over too good).
> > Any thoughts and ideas would be nice as she stole my XJ today.
> >
> > TIA
> > Snow...
> >
> > oh wifey has a 1993 ZJ, 4.0 :)
> >
> >
suppose to
Rich Hampel wrote:
> Rainex - "anti-fog" compound is a solution; but, has to be applied
> often and it does promote the inside windows getting dirtier faster.
> Anti-fog wont totally prevent the windows from fogging up but will be
> much better than nothing.
> She can also use it on the bathroom mirrors at home.
>
> In article <eSRZe.601$l03.117800@news20.bellglobal.com>, Snow
> <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> > Ok, here's the problem on these nice rainy days when the windshield fogs up
> > the defroster has a hell of a time trying to clear it, the wifey is getting
> > a tad upset that she has to drive with the window open to clear the fog
> > (keeps complaining about getting wet... I already handed her a rain
> > coat...didn't go over too good).
> > Any thoughts and ideas would be nice as she stole my XJ today.
> >
> > TIA
> > Snow...
> >
> > oh wifey has a 1993 ZJ, 4.0 :)
> >
> >
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surprise surprise
---- wrote:
>Well Mike, I just went out to prove you wrong, but you were right on.
>Even though the A/C "star" doesn't show in the digital window, the A/C
>compressor is indeed running when the switch is set to the manual
>defrost position. However, it is really a case of semantics. When
>the A/C compressor is running, the A/C is ON, no matter what you call
>it. There is only one system for cooling/drying air. The system will
>ALWAYS cool the air if the A/C compressor is running. It may be hot
>coming out of the defroster vents, but that's because the heater is
>heating the air after it is cooled. It must cool first to dry.
>
>So bottom line. If you put the ATC system in manual Defrost mode, the
>A/C compressor will come on and cycle as needed. If the A/C
>compressor does not come on in manual Defrost mode, there is something
>wrong with the system, and the self diagnostics should be run on it.
>
>----
>
>>The defogger turns on the AC for the condenser to dry out the air going
>>through. It does not 'turn on the AC' as you gents are taking about
>[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
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---- wrote:
>Well Mike, I just went out to prove you wrong, but you were right on.
>Even though the A/C "star" doesn't show in the digital window, the A/C
>compressor is indeed running when the switch is set to the manual
>defrost position. However, it is really a case of semantics. When
>the A/C compressor is running, the A/C is ON, no matter what you call
>it. There is only one system for cooling/drying air. The system will
>ALWAYS cool the air if the A/C compressor is running. It may be hot
>coming out of the defroster vents, but that's because the heater is
>heating the air after it is cooled. It must cool first to dry.
>
>So bottom line. If you put the ATC system in manual Defrost mode, the
>A/C compressor will come on and cycle as needed. If the A/C
>compressor does not come on in manual Defrost mode, there is something
>wrong with the system, and the self diagnostics should be run on it.
>
>----
>
>>The defogger turns on the AC for the condenser to dry out the air going
>>through. It does not 'turn on the AC' as you gents are taking about
>[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
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surprise surprise
---- wrote:
>Well Mike, I just went out to prove you wrong, but you were right on.
>Even though the A/C "star" doesn't show in the digital window, the A/C
>compressor is indeed running when the switch is set to the manual
>defrost position. However, it is really a case of semantics. When
>the A/C compressor is running, the A/C is ON, no matter what you call
>it. There is only one system for cooling/drying air. The system will
>ALWAYS cool the air if the A/C compressor is running. It may be hot
>coming out of the defroster vents, but that's because the heater is
>heating the air after it is cooled. It must cool first to dry.
>
>So bottom line. If you put the ATC system in manual Defrost mode, the
>A/C compressor will come on and cycle as needed. If the A/C
>compressor does not come on in manual Defrost mode, there is something
>wrong with the system, and the self diagnostics should be run on it.
>
>----
>
>>The defogger turns on the AC for the condenser to dry out the air going
>>through. It does not 'turn on the AC' as you gents are taking about
>[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
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---- wrote:
>Well Mike, I just went out to prove you wrong, but you were right on.
>Even though the A/C "star" doesn't show in the digital window, the A/C
>compressor is indeed running when the switch is set to the manual
>defrost position. However, it is really a case of semantics. When
>the A/C compressor is running, the A/C is ON, no matter what you call
>it. There is only one system for cooling/drying air. The system will
>ALWAYS cool the air if the A/C compressor is running. It may be hot
>coming out of the defroster vents, but that's because the heater is
>heating the air after it is cooled. It must cool first to dry.
>
>So bottom line. If you put the ATC system in manual Defrost mode, the
>A/C compressor will come on and cycle as needed. If the A/C
>compressor does not come on in manual Defrost mode, there is something
>wrong with the system, and the self diagnostics should be run on it.
>
>----
>
>>The defogger turns on the AC for the condenser to dry out the air going
>>through. It does not 'turn on the AC' as you gents are taking about
>[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
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surprise surprise
---- wrote:
>Well Mike, I just went out to prove you wrong, but you were right on.
>Even though the A/C "star" doesn't show in the digital window, the A/C
>compressor is indeed running when the switch is set to the manual
>defrost position. However, it is really a case of semantics. When
>the A/C compressor is running, the A/C is ON, no matter what you call
>it. There is only one system for cooling/drying air. The system will
>ALWAYS cool the air if the A/C compressor is running. It may be hot
>coming out of the defroster vents, but that's because the heater is
>heating the air after it is cooled. It must cool first to dry.
>
>So bottom line. If you put the ATC system in manual Defrost mode, the
>A/C compressor will come on and cycle as needed. If the A/C
>compressor does not come on in manual Defrost mode, there is something
>wrong with the system, and the self diagnostics should be run on it.
>
>----
>
>>The defogger turns on the AC for the condenser to dry out the air going
>>through. It does not 'turn on the AC' as you gents are taking about
>[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
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---- wrote:
>Well Mike, I just went out to prove you wrong, but you were right on.
>Even though the A/C "star" doesn't show in the digital window, the A/C
>compressor is indeed running when the switch is set to the manual
>defrost position. However, it is really a case of semantics. When
>the A/C compressor is running, the A/C is ON, no matter what you call
>it. There is only one system for cooling/drying air. The system will
>ALWAYS cool the air if the A/C compressor is running. It may be hot
>coming out of the defroster vents, but that's because the heater is
>heating the air after it is cooled. It must cool first to dry.
>
>So bottom line. If you put the ATC system in manual Defrost mode, the
>A/C compressor will come on and cycle as needed. If the A/C
>compressor does not come on in manual Defrost mode, there is something
>wrong with the system, and the self diagnostics should be run on it.
>
>----
>
>>The defogger turns on the AC for the condenser to dry out the air going
>>through. It does not 'turn on the AC' as you gents are taking about
>[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
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try evaporator instead of condensor bonehead
Mike Romain wrote:
>The defogger turns on the AC for the condenser to dry out the air going
>through. It does not 'turn on the AC' as you gents are taking about
>from the way I understand it and have seen.
>
>If you open the hood and watch while you have it in 'defrost' or 'defog'
>mode, you will see the AC pump turn on. You will not get 'AC' or cold
>air unless you request it.
>
>Mike
>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
>> When all else fails:
>>
>[quoted text clipped - 55 lines]
>> >>>> air
>> >>>> should blow from whether or not the AC is on.
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Mike Romain wrote:
>The defogger turns on the AC for the condenser to dry out the air going
>through. It does not 'turn on the AC' as you gents are taking about
>from the way I understand it and have seen.
>
>If you open the hood and watch while you have it in 'defrost' or 'defog'
>mode, you will see the AC pump turn on. You will not get 'AC' or cold
>air unless you request it.
>
>Mike
>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
>> When all else fails:
>>
>[quoted text clipped - 55 lines]
>> >>>> air
>> >>>> should blow from whether or not the AC is on.
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try evaporator instead of condensor bonehead
Mike Romain wrote:
>The defogger turns on the AC for the condenser to dry out the air going
>through. It does not 'turn on the AC' as you gents are taking about
>from the way I understand it and have seen.
>
>If you open the hood and watch while you have it in 'defrost' or 'defog'
>mode, you will see the AC pump turn on. You will not get 'AC' or cold
>air unless you request it.
>
>Mike
>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
>> When all else fails:
>>
>[quoted text clipped - 55 lines]
>> >>>> air
>> >>>> should blow from whether or not the AC is on.
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Mike Romain wrote:
>The defogger turns on the AC for the condenser to dry out the air going
>through. It does not 'turn on the AC' as you gents are taking about
>from the way I understand it and have seen.
>
>If you open the hood and watch while you have it in 'defrost' or 'defog'
>mode, you will see the AC pump turn on. You will not get 'AC' or cold
>air unless you request it.
>
>Mike
>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
>> When all else fails:
>>
>[quoted text clipped - 55 lines]
>> >>>> air
>> >>>> should blow from whether or not the AC is on.
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try evaporator instead of condensor bonehead
Mike Romain wrote:
>The defogger turns on the AC for the condenser to dry out the air going
>through. It does not 'turn on the AC' as you gents are taking about
>from the way I understand it and have seen.
>
>If you open the hood and watch while you have it in 'defrost' or 'defog'
>mode, you will see the AC pump turn on. You will not get 'AC' or cold
>air unless you request it.
>
>Mike
>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
>> When all else fails:
>>
>[quoted text clipped - 55 lines]
>> >>>> air
>> >>>> should blow from whether or not the AC is on.
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Mike Romain wrote:
>The defogger turns on the AC for the condenser to dry out the air going
>through. It does not 'turn on the AC' as you gents are taking about
>from the way I understand it and have seen.
>
>If you open the hood and watch while you have it in 'defrost' or 'defog'
>mode, you will see the AC pump turn on. You will not get 'AC' or cold
>air unless you request it.
>
>Mike
>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
>> When all else fails:
>>
>[quoted text clipped - 55 lines]
>> >>>> air
>> >>>> should blow from whether or not the AC is on.
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