zj broken key lock
09-04-2006, 10:00 AM
#2
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Re: zj broken key lock
Have you looked at the ignition switch? I've had to do twice on my SE.
Not too bad to do, just hard to get to the components. The ignition
switch is on top of the steering column. under the dash. There are
two nuts that hold it to the column. You will have to remove some
covers, etc. to get to it, and will have to lower the column a bit ( a
few bits and pieces hold this in place).
The switch itself is mechanically actuated by a metal shaft when the
key is turned. Take a piece of tape, and tape this metal shaft to the
column before you remove the old switch. If it falls out, it can be a
pain to reposition it relative to the key cylinder
Once you've got the tape in place, remove the two plastic wire
collections that come out of the switch. On my jeep, they kind of
overlap, but just press the tabs and they should come out. You can
then unbolt the old switch and remove. Take a look at the old switch.
You will see a hole in it that the end of the metal shaft you taped to
the column goes into. Be sure the new switch is set to the same
position.
Install in reverse order, and you're done. Good luck.
S.
Curtis wrote:
> key goes to on position no turn over. able to start with screwdriver at
> selinoid. how bad is it? of course on vacation. thanks.
Not too bad to do, just hard to get to the components. The ignition
switch is on top of the steering column. under the dash. There are
two nuts that hold it to the column. You will have to remove some
covers, etc. to get to it, and will have to lower the column a bit ( a
few bits and pieces hold this in place).
The switch itself is mechanically actuated by a metal shaft when the
key is turned. Take a piece of tape, and tape this metal shaft to the
column before you remove the old switch. If it falls out, it can be a
pain to reposition it relative to the key cylinder
Once you've got the tape in place, remove the two plastic wire
collections that come out of the switch. On my jeep, they kind of
overlap, but just press the tabs and they should come out. You can
then unbolt the old switch and remove. Take a look at the old switch.
You will see a hole in it that the end of the metal shaft you taped to
the column goes into. Be sure the new switch is set to the same
position.
Install in reverse order, and you're done. Good luck.
S.
Curtis wrote:
> key goes to on position no turn over. able to start with screwdriver at
> selinoid. how bad is it? of course on vacation. thanks.
09-04-2006, 10:00 AM
#3
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Re: zj broken key lock
Have you looked at the ignition switch? I've had to do twice on my SE.
Not too bad to do, just hard to get to the components. The ignition
switch is on top of the steering column. under the dash. There are
two nuts that hold it to the column. You will have to remove some
covers, etc. to get to it, and will have to lower the column a bit ( a
few bits and pieces hold this in place).
The switch itself is mechanically actuated by a metal shaft when the
key is turned. Take a piece of tape, and tape this metal shaft to the
column before you remove the old switch. If it falls out, it can be a
pain to reposition it relative to the key cylinder
Once you've got the tape in place, remove the two plastic wire
collections that come out of the switch. On my jeep, they kind of
overlap, but just press the tabs and they should come out. You can
then unbolt the old switch and remove. Take a look at the old switch.
You will see a hole in it that the end of the metal shaft you taped to
the column goes into. Be sure the new switch is set to the same
position.
Install in reverse order, and you're done. Good luck.
S.
Curtis wrote:
> key goes to on position no turn over. able to start with screwdriver at
> selinoid. how bad is it? of course on vacation. thanks.
Not too bad to do, just hard to get to the components. The ignition
switch is on top of the steering column. under the dash. There are
two nuts that hold it to the column. You will have to remove some
covers, etc. to get to it, and will have to lower the column a bit ( a
few bits and pieces hold this in place).
The switch itself is mechanically actuated by a metal shaft when the
key is turned. Take a piece of tape, and tape this metal shaft to the
column before you remove the old switch. If it falls out, it can be a
pain to reposition it relative to the key cylinder
Once you've got the tape in place, remove the two plastic wire
collections that come out of the switch. On my jeep, they kind of
overlap, but just press the tabs and they should come out. You can
then unbolt the old switch and remove. Take a look at the old switch.
You will see a hole in it that the end of the metal shaft you taped to
the column goes into. Be sure the new switch is set to the same
position.
Install in reverse order, and you're done. Good luck.
S.
Curtis wrote:
> key goes to on position no turn over. able to start with screwdriver at
> selinoid. how bad is it? of course on vacation. thanks.
09-04-2006, 10:00 AM
#4
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Re: zj broken key lock
Have you looked at the ignition switch? I've had to do twice on my SE.
Not too bad to do, just hard to get to the components. The ignition
switch is on top of the steering column. under the dash. There are
two nuts that hold it to the column. You will have to remove some
covers, etc. to get to it, and will have to lower the column a bit ( a
few bits and pieces hold this in place).
The switch itself is mechanically actuated by a metal shaft when the
key is turned. Take a piece of tape, and tape this metal shaft to the
column before you remove the old switch. If it falls out, it can be a
pain to reposition it relative to the key cylinder
Once you've got the tape in place, remove the two plastic wire
collections that come out of the switch. On my jeep, they kind of
overlap, but just press the tabs and they should come out. You can
then unbolt the old switch and remove. Take a look at the old switch.
You will see a hole in it that the end of the metal shaft you taped to
the column goes into. Be sure the new switch is set to the same
position.
Install in reverse order, and you're done. Good luck.
S.
Curtis wrote:
> key goes to on position no turn over. able to start with screwdriver at
> selinoid. how bad is it? of course on vacation. thanks.
Not too bad to do, just hard to get to the components. The ignition
switch is on top of the steering column. under the dash. There are
two nuts that hold it to the column. You will have to remove some
covers, etc. to get to it, and will have to lower the column a bit ( a
few bits and pieces hold this in place).
The switch itself is mechanically actuated by a metal shaft when the
key is turned. Take a piece of tape, and tape this metal shaft to the
column before you remove the old switch. If it falls out, it can be a
pain to reposition it relative to the key cylinder
Once you've got the tape in place, remove the two plastic wire
collections that come out of the switch. On my jeep, they kind of
overlap, but just press the tabs and they should come out. You can
then unbolt the old switch and remove. Take a look at the old switch.
You will see a hole in it that the end of the metal shaft you taped to
the column goes into. Be sure the new switch is set to the same
position.
Install in reverse order, and you're done. Good luck.
S.
Curtis wrote:
> key goes to on position no turn over. able to start with screwdriver at
> selinoid. how bad is it? of course on vacation. thanks.
09-04-2006, 11:08 AM
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Re: zj broken key lock
have not looked yet feels as metal shaft is not being pushed at all.
empty when i turn the key. fraserwag@yahoo.com wrote:
> Have you looked at the ignition switch? I've had to do twice on my SE.
> Not too bad to do, just hard to get to the components. The ignition
> switch is on top of the steering column. under the dash. There are
> two nuts that hold it to the column. You will have to remove some
> covers, etc. to get to it, and will have to lower the column a bit ( a
> few bits and pieces hold this in place).
>
> The switch itself is mechanically actuated by a metal shaft when the
> key is turned. Take a piece of tape, and tape this metal shaft to the
> column before you remove the old switch. If it falls out, it can be a
> pain to reposition it relative to the key cylinder
>
> Once you've got the tape in place, remove the two plastic wire
> collections that come out of the switch. On my jeep, they kind of
> overlap, but just press the tabs and they should come out. You can
> then unbolt the old switch and remove. Take a look at the old switch.
> You will see a hole in it that the end of the metal shaft you taped to
> the column goes into. Be sure the new switch is set to the same
> position.
>
> Install in reverse order, and you're done. Good luck.
>
> S.
>
> Curtis wrote:
> > key goes to on position no turn over. able to start with screwdriver at
> > selinoid. how bad is it? of course on vacation. thanks.
empty when i turn the key. fraserwag@yahoo.com wrote:
> Have you looked at the ignition switch? I've had to do twice on my SE.
> Not too bad to do, just hard to get to the components. The ignition
> switch is on top of the steering column. under the dash. There are
> two nuts that hold it to the column. You will have to remove some
> covers, etc. to get to it, and will have to lower the column a bit ( a
> few bits and pieces hold this in place).
>
> The switch itself is mechanically actuated by a metal shaft when the
> key is turned. Take a piece of tape, and tape this metal shaft to the
> column before you remove the old switch. If it falls out, it can be a
> pain to reposition it relative to the key cylinder
>
> Once you've got the tape in place, remove the two plastic wire
> collections that come out of the switch. On my jeep, they kind of
> overlap, but just press the tabs and they should come out. You can
> then unbolt the old switch and remove. Take a look at the old switch.
> You will see a hole in it that the end of the metal shaft you taped to
> the column goes into. Be sure the new switch is set to the same
> position.
>
> Install in reverse order, and you're done. Good luck.
>
> S.
>
> Curtis wrote:
> > key goes to on position no turn over. able to start with screwdriver at
> > selinoid. how bad is it? of course on vacation. thanks.
09-04-2006, 11:08 AM
#6
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Re: zj broken key lock
have not looked yet feels as metal shaft is not being pushed at all.
empty when i turn the key. fraserwag@yahoo.com wrote:
> Have you looked at the ignition switch? I've had to do twice on my SE.
> Not too bad to do, just hard to get to the components. The ignition
> switch is on top of the steering column. under the dash. There are
> two nuts that hold it to the column. You will have to remove some
> covers, etc. to get to it, and will have to lower the column a bit ( a
> few bits and pieces hold this in place).
>
> The switch itself is mechanically actuated by a metal shaft when the
> key is turned. Take a piece of tape, and tape this metal shaft to the
> column before you remove the old switch. If it falls out, it can be a
> pain to reposition it relative to the key cylinder
>
> Once you've got the tape in place, remove the two plastic wire
> collections that come out of the switch. On my jeep, they kind of
> overlap, but just press the tabs and they should come out. You can
> then unbolt the old switch and remove. Take a look at the old switch.
> You will see a hole in it that the end of the metal shaft you taped to
> the column goes into. Be sure the new switch is set to the same
> position.
>
> Install in reverse order, and you're done. Good luck.
>
> S.
>
> Curtis wrote:
> > key goes to on position no turn over. able to start with screwdriver at
> > selinoid. how bad is it? of course on vacation. thanks.
empty when i turn the key. fraserwag@yahoo.com wrote:
> Have you looked at the ignition switch? I've had to do twice on my SE.
> Not too bad to do, just hard to get to the components. The ignition
> switch is on top of the steering column. under the dash. There are
> two nuts that hold it to the column. You will have to remove some
> covers, etc. to get to it, and will have to lower the column a bit ( a
> few bits and pieces hold this in place).
>
> The switch itself is mechanically actuated by a metal shaft when the
> key is turned. Take a piece of tape, and tape this metal shaft to the
> column before you remove the old switch. If it falls out, it can be a
> pain to reposition it relative to the key cylinder
>
> Once you've got the tape in place, remove the two plastic wire
> collections that come out of the switch. On my jeep, they kind of
> overlap, but just press the tabs and they should come out. You can
> then unbolt the old switch and remove. Take a look at the old switch.
> You will see a hole in it that the end of the metal shaft you taped to
> the column goes into. Be sure the new switch is set to the same
> position.
>
> Install in reverse order, and you're done. Good luck.
>
> S.
>
> Curtis wrote:
> > key goes to on position no turn over. able to start with screwdriver at
> > selinoid. how bad is it? of course on vacation. thanks.
09-04-2006, 11:08 AM
#7
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Re: zj broken key lock
have not looked yet feels as metal shaft is not being pushed at all.
empty when i turn the key. fraserwag@yahoo.com wrote:
> Have you looked at the ignition switch? I've had to do twice on my SE.
> Not too bad to do, just hard to get to the components. The ignition
> switch is on top of the steering column. under the dash. There are
> two nuts that hold it to the column. You will have to remove some
> covers, etc. to get to it, and will have to lower the column a bit ( a
> few bits and pieces hold this in place).
>
> The switch itself is mechanically actuated by a metal shaft when the
> key is turned. Take a piece of tape, and tape this metal shaft to the
> column before you remove the old switch. If it falls out, it can be a
> pain to reposition it relative to the key cylinder
>
> Once you've got the tape in place, remove the two plastic wire
> collections that come out of the switch. On my jeep, they kind of
> overlap, but just press the tabs and they should come out. You can
> then unbolt the old switch and remove. Take a look at the old switch.
> You will see a hole in it that the end of the metal shaft you taped to
> the column goes into. Be sure the new switch is set to the same
> position.
>
> Install in reverse order, and you're done. Good luck.
>
> S.
>
> Curtis wrote:
> > key goes to on position no turn over. able to start with screwdriver at
> > selinoid. how bad is it? of course on vacation. thanks.
empty when i turn the key. fraserwag@yahoo.com wrote:
> Have you looked at the ignition switch? I've had to do twice on my SE.
> Not too bad to do, just hard to get to the components. The ignition
> switch is on top of the steering column. under the dash. There are
> two nuts that hold it to the column. You will have to remove some
> covers, etc. to get to it, and will have to lower the column a bit ( a
> few bits and pieces hold this in place).
>
> The switch itself is mechanically actuated by a metal shaft when the
> key is turned. Take a piece of tape, and tape this metal shaft to the
> column before you remove the old switch. If it falls out, it can be a
> pain to reposition it relative to the key cylinder
>
> Once you've got the tape in place, remove the two plastic wire
> collections that come out of the switch. On my jeep, they kind of
> overlap, but just press the tabs and they should come out. You can
> then unbolt the old switch and remove. Take a look at the old switch.
> You will see a hole in it that the end of the metal shaft you taped to
> the column goes into. Be sure the new switch is set to the same
> position.
>
> Install in reverse order, and you're done. Good luck.
>
> S.
>
> Curtis wrote:
> > key goes to on position no turn over. able to start with screwdriver at
> > selinoid. how bad is it? of course on vacation. thanks.
09-04-2006, 11:27 AM
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Re: zj broken key lock
Curtis proclaimed:
> key goes to on position no turn over. able to start with screwdriver at
> selinoid. how bad is it? of course on vacation. thanks.
>
If you are sure that it is the key switch, get a good set of torz bits
and replace it. You'll need a long handle torx to get the shroud off
the steering wheel, then remove the old switch and put in the new. The
time consumption will be getting the shroud off, then once you've got
the new switch, getting the flag lined up. Haven't seen the after
market manuals, the Factory Service Manual gives the tips on the
positions you need to set the switch to in order to get the old one out
and the new one in. Time consuming but not difficult, or get a dealer
to do it, but be prepared for a labor charge.
Sure it is the switch? There is a chain of sensors from the
transmission [auto], clutch [manual], thru the switch that inhibit
start. Easy to jumper the start relay to find out.
> key goes to on position no turn over. able to start with screwdriver at
> selinoid. how bad is it? of course on vacation. thanks.
>
If you are sure that it is the key switch, get a good set of torz bits
and replace it. You'll need a long handle torx to get the shroud off
the steering wheel, then remove the old switch and put in the new. The
time consumption will be getting the shroud off, then once you've got
the new switch, getting the flag lined up. Haven't seen the after
market manuals, the Factory Service Manual gives the tips on the
positions you need to set the switch to in order to get the old one out
and the new one in. Time consuming but not difficult, or get a dealer
to do it, but be prepared for a labor charge.
Sure it is the switch? There is a chain of sensors from the
transmission [auto], clutch [manual], thru the switch that inhibit
start. Easy to jumper the start relay to find out.
09-04-2006, 11:27 AM
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Re: zj broken key lock
Curtis proclaimed:
> key goes to on position no turn over. able to start with screwdriver at
> selinoid. how bad is it? of course on vacation. thanks.
>
If you are sure that it is the key switch, get a good set of torz bits
and replace it. You'll need a long handle torx to get the shroud off
the steering wheel, then remove the old switch and put in the new. The
time consumption will be getting the shroud off, then once you've got
the new switch, getting the flag lined up. Haven't seen the after
market manuals, the Factory Service Manual gives the tips on the
positions you need to set the switch to in order to get the old one out
and the new one in. Time consuming but not difficult, or get a dealer
to do it, but be prepared for a labor charge.
Sure it is the switch? There is a chain of sensors from the
transmission [auto], clutch [manual], thru the switch that inhibit
start. Easy to jumper the start relay to find out.
> key goes to on position no turn over. able to start with screwdriver at
> selinoid. how bad is it? of course on vacation. thanks.
>
If you are sure that it is the key switch, get a good set of torz bits
and replace it. You'll need a long handle torx to get the shroud off
the steering wheel, then remove the old switch and put in the new. The
time consumption will be getting the shroud off, then once you've got
the new switch, getting the flag lined up. Haven't seen the after
market manuals, the Factory Service Manual gives the tips on the
positions you need to set the switch to in order to get the old one out
and the new one in. Time consuming but not difficult, or get a dealer
to do it, but be prepared for a labor charge.
Sure it is the switch? There is a chain of sensors from the
transmission [auto], clutch [manual], thru the switch that inhibit
start. Easy to jumper the start relay to find out.
09-04-2006, 11:27 AM
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Re: zj broken key lock
Curtis proclaimed:
> key goes to on position no turn over. able to start with screwdriver at
> selinoid. how bad is it? of course on vacation. thanks.
>
If you are sure that it is the key switch, get a good set of torz bits
and replace it. You'll need a long handle torx to get the shroud off
the steering wheel, then remove the old switch and put in the new. The
time consumption will be getting the shroud off, then once you've got
the new switch, getting the flag lined up. Haven't seen the after
market manuals, the Factory Service Manual gives the tips on the
positions you need to set the switch to in order to get the old one out
and the new one in. Time consuming but not difficult, or get a dealer
to do it, but be prepared for a labor charge.
Sure it is the switch? There is a chain of sensors from the
transmission [auto], clutch [manual], thru the switch that inhibit
start. Easy to jumper the start relay to find out.
> key goes to on position no turn over. able to start with screwdriver at
> selinoid. how bad is it? of course on vacation. thanks.
>
If you are sure that it is the key switch, get a good set of torz bits
and replace it. You'll need a long handle torx to get the shroud off
the steering wheel, then remove the old switch and put in the new. The
time consumption will be getting the shroud off, then once you've got
the new switch, getting the flag lined up. Haven't seen the after
market manuals, the Factory Service Manual gives the tips on the
positions you need to set the switch to in order to get the old one out
and the new one in. Time consuming but not difficult, or get a dealer
to do it, but be prepared for a labor charge.
Sure it is the switch? There is a chain of sensors from the
transmission [auto], clutch [manual], thru the switch that inhibit
start. Easy to jumper the start relay to find out.
