YJ stuck in gear
02-14-2007, 10:32 AM
#31
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Re: YJ stuck in gear
Come at it from the inside, top down. I think the gear shifter is just
loose at the top cover.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
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Les@firemountain.uranium wrote:
> 1989 258 cui 5 speed.
> The clutch works great, I tried putting the transfer case in netural. It
> feels more stuck than disconected.
> It looks like a drag to get to the trans. But I run a machine shop and it is
> at work, so I have that going for me at least.
> Any one near Norfolk Va want to buy the beast? :)
> I will report todays outcome.
> Thanks for the help so far.
>
> Les
loose at the top cover.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Les@firemountain.uranium wrote:
> 1989 258 cui 5 speed.
> The clutch works great, I tried putting the transfer case in netural. It
> feels more stuck than disconected.
> It looks like a drag to get to the trans. But I run a machine shop and it is
> at work, so I have that going for me at least.
> Any one near Norfolk Va want to buy the beast? :)
> I will report todays outcome.
> Thanks for the help so far.
>
> Les
02-14-2007, 10:32 AM
#32
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Re: YJ stuck in gear
Come at it from the inside, top down. I think the gear shifter is just
loose at the top cover.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Les@firemountain.uranium wrote:
> 1989 258 cui 5 speed.
> The clutch works great, I tried putting the transfer case in netural. It
> feels more stuck than disconected.
> It looks like a drag to get to the trans. But I run a machine shop and it is
> at work, so I have that going for me at least.
> Any one near Norfolk Va want to buy the beast? :)
> I will report todays outcome.
> Thanks for the help so far.
>
> Les
loose at the top cover.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Les@firemountain.uranium wrote:
> 1989 258 cui 5 speed.
> The clutch works great, I tried putting the transfer case in netural. It
> feels more stuck than disconected.
> It looks like a drag to get to the trans. But I run a machine shop and it is
> at work, so I have that going for me at least.
> Any one near Norfolk Va want to buy the beast? :)
> I will report todays outcome.
> Thanks for the help so far.
>
> Les
02-14-2007, 10:32 AM
#33
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Re: YJ stuck in gear
Come at it from the inside, top down. I think the gear shifter is just
loose at the top cover.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Les@firemountain.uranium wrote:
> 1989 258 cui 5 speed.
> The clutch works great, I tried putting the transfer case in netural. It
> feels more stuck than disconected.
> It looks like a drag to get to the trans. But I run a machine shop and it is
> at work, so I have that going for me at least.
> Any one near Norfolk Va want to buy the beast? :)
> I will report todays outcome.
> Thanks for the help so far.
>
> Les
loose at the top cover.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Les@firemountain.uranium wrote:
> 1989 258 cui 5 speed.
> The clutch works great, I tried putting the transfer case in netural. It
> feels more stuck than disconected.
> It looks like a drag to get to the trans. But I run a machine shop and it is
> at work, so I have that going for me at least.
> Any one near Norfolk Va want to buy the beast? :)
> I will report todays outcome.
> Thanks for the help so far.
>
> Les
02-14-2007, 11:06 AM
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Re: YJ stuck in gear
This is an extremely common thing to happen, on any vehicle with a top of
transmission floor shift and some age.
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> Come at it from the inside, top down. I think the gear shifter is just
> loose at the top cover.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Les@firemountain.uranium wrote:
> > 1989 258 cui 5 speed.
> > The clutch works great, I tried putting the transfer case in netural. It
> > feels more stuck than disconected.
> > It looks like a drag to get to the trans. But I run a machine shop and
it is
> > at work, so I have that going for me at least.
> > Any one near Norfolk Va want to buy the beast? :)
> > I will report todays outcome.
> > Thanks for the help so far.
> >
> > Les
transmission floor shift and some age.
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> Come at it from the inside, top down. I think the gear shifter is just
> loose at the top cover.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Les@firemountain.uranium wrote:
> > 1989 258 cui 5 speed.
> > The clutch works great, I tried putting the transfer case in netural. It
> > feels more stuck than disconected.
> > It looks like a drag to get to the trans. But I run a machine shop and
it is
> > at work, so I have that going for me at least.
> > Any one near Norfolk Va want to buy the beast? :)
> > I will report todays outcome.
> > Thanks for the help so far.
> >
> > Les
02-14-2007, 11:06 AM
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Re: YJ stuck in gear
This is an extremely common thing to happen, on any vehicle with a top of
transmission floor shift and some age.
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> Come at it from the inside, top down. I think the gear shifter is just
> loose at the top cover.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Les@firemountain.uranium wrote:
> > 1989 258 cui 5 speed.
> > The clutch works great, I tried putting the transfer case in netural. It
> > feels more stuck than disconected.
> > It looks like a drag to get to the trans. But I run a machine shop and
it is
> > at work, so I have that going for me at least.
> > Any one near Norfolk Va want to buy the beast? :)
> > I will report todays outcome.
> > Thanks for the help so far.
> >
> > Les
transmission floor shift and some age.
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:45d32b25$0$3989$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
> Come at it from the inside, top down. I think the gear shifter is just
> loose at the top cover.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Les@firemountain.uranium wrote:
> > 1989 258 cui 5 speed.
> > The clutch works great, I tried putting the transfer case in netural. It
> > feels more stuck than disconected.
> > It looks like a drag to get to the trans. But I run a machine shop and
it is
> > at work, so I have that going for me at least.
> > Any one near Norfolk Va want to buy the beast? :)
> > I will report todays outcome.
> > Thanks for the help so far.
> >
> > Les
02-14-2007, 11:06 AM
#36
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Re: YJ stuck in gear
This is an extremely common thing to happen, on any vehicle with a top of
transmission floor shift and some age.
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:45d32b25$0$3989$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
> Come at it from the inside, top down. I think the gear shifter is just
> loose at the top cover.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Les@firemountain.uranium wrote:
> > 1989 258 cui 5 speed.
> > The clutch works great, I tried putting the transfer case in netural. It
> > feels more stuck than disconected.
> > It looks like a drag to get to the trans. But I run a machine shop and
it is
> > at work, so I have that going for me at least.
> > Any one near Norfolk Va want to buy the beast? :)
> > I will report todays outcome.
> > Thanks for the help so far.
> >
> > Les
transmission floor shift and some age.
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:45d32b25$0$3989$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
> Come at it from the inside, top down. I think the gear shifter is just
> loose at the top cover.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Les@firemountain.uranium wrote:
> > 1989 258 cui 5 speed.
> > The clutch works great, I tried putting the transfer case in netural. It
> > feels more stuck than disconected.
> > It looks like a drag to get to the trans. But I run a machine shop and
it is
> > at work, so I have that going for me at least.
> > Any one near Norfolk Va want to buy the beast? :)
> > I will report todays outcome.
> > Thanks for the help so far.
> >
> > Les
02-14-2007, 11:06 AM
#37
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Re: YJ stuck in gear
This is an extremely common thing to happen, on any vehicle with a top of
transmission floor shift and some age.
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:45d32b25$0$3989$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
> Come at it from the inside, top down. I think the gear shifter is just
> loose at the top cover.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Les@firemountain.uranium wrote:
> > 1989 258 cui 5 speed.
> > The clutch works great, I tried putting the transfer case in netural. It
> > feels more stuck than disconected.
> > It looks like a drag to get to the trans. But I run a machine shop and
it is
> > at work, so I have that going for me at least.
> > Any one near Norfolk Va want to buy the beast? :)
> > I will report todays outcome.
> > Thanks for the help so far.
> >
> > Les
transmission floor shift and some age.
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:45d32b25$0$3989$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
> Come at it from the inside, top down. I think the gear shifter is just
> loose at the top cover.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Les@firemountain.uranium wrote:
> > 1989 258 cui 5 speed.
> > The clutch works great, I tried putting the transfer case in netural. It
> > feels more stuck than disconected.
> > It looks like a drag to get to the trans. But I run a machine shop and
it is
> > at work, so I have that going for me at least.
> > Any one near Norfolk Va want to buy the beast? :)
> > I will report todays outcome.
> > Thanks for the help so far.
> >
> > Les
02-14-2007, 12:19 PM
#38
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Re: YJ stuck in gear
Boy! that reminds me of a story
Way back when my first Jeep (an 88YJ 4.2L) was new.
My girlfriend "at the time" who had a vicious temper,
Whenever she got mad at me she would take it out on my
poor Jeep. Once she grabbed the shift lever and with both feet
on the side of the seat she yanked and pulled trying
to rip it out (the lever) it seems. After she settled down
I went to look to see what damage was done. It was well
stuck but after some muscle it popped back in place and worked
O.K. ever since. Poor ol' Jeep...It had quite a few battle scars from
her, horrifying at the time but funny as hell now :-)
Earle Horton wrote:
> This is an extremely common thing to happen, on any vehicle with a top of
> transmission floor shift and some age.
>
> Earle
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:45d32b25$0$3989$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>
>>Come at it from the inside, top down. I think the gear shifter is just
>>loose at the top cover.
>>
>>Mike
>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>>Les@firemountain.uranium wrote:
>>
>>>1989 258 cui 5 speed.
>>>The clutch works great, I tried putting the transfer case in netural. It
>>>feels more stuck than disconected.
>>>It looks like a drag to get to the trans. But I run a machine shop and
>
> it is
>
>>>at work, so I have that going for me at least.
>>>Any one near Norfolk Va want to buy the beast? :)
>>>I will report todays outcome.
>>>Thanks for the help so far.
>>>
>>>Les
>
>
>
Way back when my first Jeep (an 88YJ 4.2L) was new.
My girlfriend "at the time" who had a vicious temper,
Whenever she got mad at me she would take it out on my
poor Jeep. Once she grabbed the shift lever and with both feet
on the side of the seat she yanked and pulled trying
to rip it out (the lever) it seems. After she settled down
I went to look to see what damage was done. It was well
stuck but after some muscle it popped back in place and worked
O.K. ever since. Poor ol' Jeep...It had quite a few battle scars from
her, horrifying at the time but funny as hell now :-)
Earle Horton wrote:
> This is an extremely common thing to happen, on any vehicle with a top of
> transmission floor shift and some age.
>
> Earle
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:45d32b25$0$3989$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>
>>Come at it from the inside, top down. I think the gear shifter is just
>>loose at the top cover.
>>
>>Mike
>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>>Les@firemountain.uranium wrote:
>>
>>>1989 258 cui 5 speed.
>>>The clutch works great, I tried putting the transfer case in netural. It
>>>feels more stuck than disconected.
>>>It looks like a drag to get to the trans. But I run a machine shop and
>
> it is
>
>>>at work, so I have that going for me at least.
>>>Any one near Norfolk Va want to buy the beast? :)
>>>I will report todays outcome.
>>>Thanks for the help so far.
>>>
>>>Les
>
>
>
02-14-2007, 12:19 PM
#39
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Re: YJ stuck in gear
Boy! that reminds me of a story
Way back when my first Jeep (an 88YJ 4.2L) was new.
My girlfriend "at the time" who had a vicious temper,
Whenever she got mad at me she would take it out on my
poor Jeep. Once she grabbed the shift lever and with both feet
on the side of the seat she yanked and pulled trying
to rip it out (the lever) it seems. After she settled down
I went to look to see what damage was done. It was well
stuck but after some muscle it popped back in place and worked
O.K. ever since. Poor ol' Jeep...It had quite a few battle scars from
her, horrifying at the time but funny as hell now :-)
Earle Horton wrote:
> This is an extremely common thing to happen, on any vehicle with a top of
> transmission floor shift and some age.
>
> Earle
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:45d32b25$0$3989$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>
>>Come at it from the inside, top down. I think the gear shifter is just
>>loose at the top cover.
>>
>>Mike
>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>>Les@firemountain.uranium wrote:
>>
>>>1989 258 cui 5 speed.
>>>The clutch works great, I tried putting the transfer case in netural. It
>>>feels more stuck than disconected.
>>>It looks like a drag to get to the trans. But I run a machine shop and
>
> it is
>
>>>at work, so I have that going for me at least.
>>>Any one near Norfolk Va want to buy the beast? :)
>>>I will report todays outcome.
>>>Thanks for the help so far.
>>>
>>>Les
>
>
>
Way back when my first Jeep (an 88YJ 4.2L) was new.
My girlfriend "at the time" who had a vicious temper,
Whenever she got mad at me she would take it out on my
poor Jeep. Once she grabbed the shift lever and with both feet
on the side of the seat she yanked and pulled trying
to rip it out (the lever) it seems. After she settled down
I went to look to see what damage was done. It was well
stuck but after some muscle it popped back in place and worked
O.K. ever since. Poor ol' Jeep...It had quite a few battle scars from
her, horrifying at the time but funny as hell now :-)
Earle Horton wrote:
> This is an extremely common thing to happen, on any vehicle with a top of
> transmission floor shift and some age.
>
> Earle
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:45d32b25$0$3989$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>
>>Come at it from the inside, top down. I think the gear shifter is just
>>loose at the top cover.
>>
>>Mike
>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>>Les@firemountain.uranium wrote:
>>
>>>1989 258 cui 5 speed.
>>>The clutch works great, I tried putting the transfer case in netural. It
>>>feels more stuck than disconected.
>>>It looks like a drag to get to the trans. But I run a machine shop and
>
> it is
>
>>>at work, so I have that going for me at least.
>>>Any one near Norfolk Va want to buy the beast? :)
>>>I will report todays outcome.
>>>Thanks for the help so far.
>>>
>>>Les
>
>
>
02-14-2007, 12:19 PM
#40
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: YJ stuck in gear
Boy! that reminds me of a story
Way back when my first Jeep (an 88YJ 4.2L) was new.
My girlfriend "at the time" who had a vicious temper,
Whenever she got mad at me she would take it out on my
poor Jeep. Once she grabbed the shift lever and with both feet
on the side of the seat she yanked and pulled trying
to rip it out (the lever) it seems. After she settled down
I went to look to see what damage was done. It was well
stuck but after some muscle it popped back in place and worked
O.K. ever since. Poor ol' Jeep...It had quite a few battle scars from
her, horrifying at the time but funny as hell now :-)
Earle Horton wrote:
> This is an extremely common thing to happen, on any vehicle with a top of
> transmission floor shift and some age.
>
> Earle
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:45d32b25$0$3989$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>
>>Come at it from the inside, top down. I think the gear shifter is just
>>loose at the top cover.
>>
>>Mike
>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>>Les@firemountain.uranium wrote:
>>
>>>1989 258 cui 5 speed.
>>>The clutch works great, I tried putting the transfer case in netural. It
>>>feels more stuck than disconected.
>>>It looks like a drag to get to the trans. But I run a machine shop and
>
> it is
>
>>>at work, so I have that going for me at least.
>>>Any one near Norfolk Va want to buy the beast? :)
>>>I will report todays outcome.
>>>Thanks for the help so far.
>>>
>>>Les
>
>
>
Way back when my first Jeep (an 88YJ 4.2L) was new.
My girlfriend "at the time" who had a vicious temper,
Whenever she got mad at me she would take it out on my
poor Jeep. Once she grabbed the shift lever and with both feet
on the side of the seat she yanked and pulled trying
to rip it out (the lever) it seems. After she settled down
I went to look to see what damage was done. It was well
stuck but after some muscle it popped back in place and worked
O.K. ever since. Poor ol' Jeep...It had quite a few battle scars from
her, horrifying at the time but funny as hell now :-)
Earle Horton wrote:
> This is an extremely common thing to happen, on any vehicle with a top of
> transmission floor shift and some age.
>
> Earle
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:45d32b25$0$3989$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>
>>Come at it from the inside, top down. I think the gear shifter is just
>>loose at the top cover.
>>
>>Mike
>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>>Les@firemountain.uranium wrote:
>>
>>>1989 258 cui 5 speed.
>>>The clutch works great, I tried putting the transfer case in netural. It
>>>feels more stuck than disconected.
>>>It looks like a drag to get to the trans. But I run a machine shop and
>
> it is
>
>>>at work, so I have that going for me at least.
>>>Any one near Norfolk Va want to buy the beast? :)
>>>I will report todays outcome.
>>>Thanks for the help so far.
>>>
>>>Les
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