Re: Yet another gauge question: CJ
 

That's about as simple as anyone has come up with. Thanks JimG!!! I'll keep
you posted.
Allen


"JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
news:IFfxb.1141$lB3.558@news01.roc.ny...
> The key does have to be on. Put the meter away until you learn how to use
> it.
>
> OK,
> Fuel gauge: If you can get to the pink wire on the fuel sender at the tank
> (body lift makes this easy), take it loose and touch it to ground, check
the
> gauge, if it goes to full you have a bad sender and the voltage to the
> gauge is OK. If not then there is no volts at the gauge or the gauge is
> bad. Usually it is the sender.
>
> Temp gauge: If fuel gauge went to full in above test, continue. (If not
> then you need to get volts to the fuel/temp gauge before continuing) Pull
> the wire from the temp. sender at the back of the block and touch it to
> ground, look at temp gauge. If it goes to hot then you have a bad temp.
> sender. If not then, the regulator/gauge is bad. Replace the fuel/temp
> cluster.
>
> JimG
>
> <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:rkfxb.24028$up3.492@fe1.columbus.rr.com...
> > http://www.monsterslayer.com/jeep/Gauges.htm
> >
> > I do have a volt meter but I'm a complete idiot when it comes to using
it.
> I
> > can't seem to get the reading...or even close...even making heads or
tails
> > out of the readings from it. The fuel gauge does not work and I've all
but
> > given up on that so now I'm focusing on the temp gauge. I've tried
> measuring
> > the resistance and grounding out the pink wire but got no where. Does
the
> > jeep need to be running or can you have the key all the way forward to
> take
> > readings?
> > Thanks!
> >
> >
> >
> > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > news:CFexb.1132$Ec3.53@news01.roc.ny...
> > > Not necessarily... the 12V at the fuel gauge terminal I provides input
> to
> > > the regulator. Do you have a volt meter? Simply measure for the 12V
at
> > > fuel gauge I terminal. If it is there, then measure at temperature
> gauge
> > A
> > > terminal for 5V (should be same as fuel gauge terminal A). Does the
> fuel
> > > gauge work? You seem to be stuck on the that.
> > >
> > >
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/el...y/SpedoPic.jpg
> > >
> > > JimG
> > >
> > > <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > news:fxdxb.28431$uw5.28361@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> > > > So juice going to the fuel gauge could somehow not get to the temp
> gauge
> > > if
> > > > there is a malfunction in the fuel gauge correct?
> > > > Allen
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:ufdxb.1120$IN2.85@news01.roc.ny...
> > > > > You are correct there has to be 12V there for the regulator to
work.
> > > > >
> > > > > JimG
> > > > >
> > > > > <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:VTcxb.42381$kL2.28316@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
> > > > > > But isn't there only one hot wire going to the fuel gauge? And
> then
> > if
> > > > > that
> > > > > > wire somehow does not get juice, it doesn't jump over to the
temp
> > > > > gauge,..is
> > > > > > that a correct assumption??
> > > > > > thanks
> > > > > > Allen
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:bkcxb.1105$yY.539@news01.roc.ny...
> > > > > > > The jumper is to get the regulated 5V to the temperature
gauge.
> > The
> > > > > fuel
> > > > > > > gauge does not have to work for the temperature to work as
long
> as
> > > the
> > > > > > > regulator works.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > JimG
> > > > > > > 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> > > > > > > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > > > > > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> > > > > > > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> > > > > > > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > > > > > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:7xbxb.28236$uw5.23619@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> > > > > > > > I hate beating this dead horse but...am I to understand that
> the
> > > > > jumper
> > > > > > > > between the fuel and temp is to get the power over from the
> fuel
> > > to
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > temp
> > > > > > > > gauge? And if this is the case,...if the fuel gauge is bad,
> will
> > > it
> > > > > send
> > > > > > > > power to the temp gauge? In otherwords,..if the fuel gauge
> goes
> > > bad,
> > > > > > does
> > > > > > > > the temp gauge then also fail to read?
> > > > > > > > Allen
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 83 CJ7
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Re: Yet another gauge question: CJ
 

That's about as simple as anyone has come up with. Thanks JimG!!! I'll keep
you posted.
Allen


"JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
news:IFfxb.1141$lB3.558@news01.roc.ny...
> The key does have to be on. Put the meter away until you learn how to use
> it.
>
> OK,
> Fuel gauge: If you can get to the pink wire on the fuel sender at the tank
> (body lift makes this easy), take it loose and touch it to ground, check
the
> gauge, if it goes to full you have a bad sender and the voltage to the
> gauge is OK. If not then there is no volts at the gauge or the gauge is
> bad. Usually it is the sender.
>
> Temp gauge: If fuel gauge went to full in above test, continue. (If not
> then you need to get volts to the fuel/temp gauge before continuing) Pull
> the wire from the temp. sender at the back of the block and touch it to
> ground, look at temp gauge. If it goes to hot then you have a bad temp.
> sender. If not then, the regulator/gauge is bad. Replace the fuel/temp
> cluster.
>
> JimG
>
> <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:rkfxb.24028$up3.492@fe1.columbus.rr.com...
> > http://www.monsterslayer.com/jeep/Gauges.htm
> >
> > I do have a volt meter but I'm a complete idiot when it comes to using
it.
> I
> > can't seem to get the reading...or even close...even making heads or
tails
> > out of the readings from it. The fuel gauge does not work and I've all
but
> > given up on that so now I'm focusing on the temp gauge. I've tried
> measuring
> > the resistance and grounding out the pink wire but got no where. Does
the
> > jeep need to be running or can you have the key all the way forward to
> take
> > readings?
> > Thanks!
> >
> >
> >
> > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > news:CFexb.1132$Ec3.53@news01.roc.ny...
> > > Not necessarily... the 12V at the fuel gauge terminal I provides input
> to
> > > the regulator. Do you have a volt meter? Simply measure for the 12V
at
> > > fuel gauge I terminal. If it is there, then measure at temperature
> gauge
> > A
> > > terminal for 5V (should be same as fuel gauge terminal A). Does the
> fuel
> > > gauge work? You seem to be stuck on the that.
> > >
> > >
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/el...y/SpedoPic.jpg
> > >
> > > JimG
> > >
> > > <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > news:fxdxb.28431$uw5.28361@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> > > > So juice going to the fuel gauge could somehow not get to the temp
> gauge
> > > if
> > > > there is a malfunction in the fuel gauge correct?
> > > > Allen
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:ufdxb.1120$IN2.85@news01.roc.ny...
> > > > > You are correct there has to be 12V there for the regulator to
work.
> > > > >
> > > > > JimG
> > > > >
> > > > > <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:VTcxb.42381$kL2.28316@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
> > > > > > But isn't there only one hot wire going to the fuel gauge? And
> then
> > if
> > > > > that
> > > > > > wire somehow does not get juice, it doesn't jump over to the
temp
> > > > > gauge,..is
> > > > > > that a correct assumption??
> > > > > > thanks
> > > > > > Allen
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:bkcxb.1105$yY.539@news01.roc.ny...
> > > > > > > The jumper is to get the regulated 5V to the temperature
gauge.
> > The
> > > > > fuel
> > > > > > > gauge does not have to work for the temperature to work as
long
> as
> > > the
> > > > > > > regulator works.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > JimG
> > > > > > > 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> > > > > > > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > > > > > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> > > > > > > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> > > > > > > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > > > > > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:7xbxb.28236$uw5.23619@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> > > > > > > > I hate beating this dead horse but...am I to understand that
> the
> > > > > jumper
> > > > > > > > between the fuel and temp is to get the power over from the
> fuel
> > > to
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > temp
> > > > > > > > gauge? And if this is the case,...if the fuel gauge is bad,
> will
> > > it
> > > > > send
> > > > > > > > power to the temp gauge? In otherwords,..if the fuel gauge
> goes
> > > bad,
> > > > > > does
> > > > > > > > the temp gauge then also fail to read?
> > > > > > > > Allen
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 83 CJ7
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Re: Yet another gauge question: CJ
 

Yeah,..right now neither work. I do have a hot lead going to them though
(fuel).
Allen

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3FC586DE.F59FD9C4@sympatico.ca...
> Are you saying 'both' gauges don't work?
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> ABanks5@columbus.rr.com wrote:
> >
> > http://www.monsterslayer.com/jeep/Gauges.htm
> >
> > I do have a volt meter but I'm a complete idiot when it comes to using
it. I
> > can't seem to get the reading...or even close...even making heads or
tails
> > out of the readings from it. The fuel gauge does not work and I've all
but
> > given up on that so now I'm focusing on the temp gauge. I've tried
measuring
> > the resistance and grounding out the pink wire but got no where. Does
the
> > jeep need to be running or can you have the key all the way forward to
take
> > readings?
> > Thanks!
> >
> > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > news:CFexb.1132$Ec3.53@news01.roc.ny...
> > > Not necessarily... the 12V at the fuel gauge terminal I provides input
to
> > > the regulator. Do you have a volt meter? Simply measure for the 12V
at
> > > fuel gauge I terminal. If it is there, then measure at temperature
gauge
> > A
> > > terminal for 5V (should be same as fuel gauge terminal A). Does the
fuel
> > > gauge work? You seem to be stuck on the that.
> > >
> > >
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/el...y/SpedoPic.jpg
> > >
> > > JimG
> > >
> > > <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > news:fxdxb.28431$uw5.28361@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> > > > So juice going to the fuel gauge could somehow not get to the temp
gauge
> > > if
> > > > there is a malfunction in the fuel gauge correct?
> > > > Allen
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:ufdxb.1120$IN2.85@news01.roc.ny...
> > > > > You are correct there has to be 12V there for the regulator to
work.
> > > > >
> > > > > JimG
> > > > >
> > > > > <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:VTcxb.42381$kL2.28316@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
> > > > > > But isn't there only one hot wire going to the fuel gauge? And
then
> > if
> > > > > that
> > > > > > wire somehow does not get juice, it doesn't jump over to the
temp
> > > > > gauge,..is
> > > > > > that a correct assumption??
> > > > > > thanks
> > > > > > Allen
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:bkcxb.1105$yY.539@news01.roc.ny...
> > > > > > > The jumper is to get the regulated 5V to the temperature
gauge.
> > The
> > > > > fuel
> > > > > > > gauge does not have to work for the temperature to work as
long as
> > > the
> > > > > > > regulator works.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > JimG
> > > > > > > 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> > > > > > > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > > > > > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> > > > > > > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> > > > > > > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > > > > > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:7xbxb.28236$uw5.23619@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> > > > > > > > I hate beating this dead horse but...am I to understand that
the
> > > > > jumper
> > > > > > > > between the fuel and temp is to get the power over from the
fuel
> > > to
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > temp
> > > > > > > > gauge? And if this is the case,...if the fuel gauge is bad,
will
> > > it
> > > > > send
> > > > > > > > power to the temp gauge? In otherwords,..if the fuel gauge
goes
> > > bad,
> > > > > > does
> > > > > > > > the temp gauge then also fail to read?
> > > > > > > > Allen
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 83 CJ7
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >

Re: Yet another gauge question: CJ
 

Yeah,..right now neither work. I do have a hot lead going to them though
(fuel).
Allen

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3FC586DE.F59FD9C4@sympatico.ca...
> Are you saying 'both' gauges don't work?
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> ABanks5@columbus.rr.com wrote:
> >
> > http://www.monsterslayer.com/jeep/Gauges.htm
> >
> > I do have a volt meter but I'm a complete idiot when it comes to using
it. I
> > can't seem to get the reading...or even close...even making heads or
tails
> > out of the readings from it. The fuel gauge does not work and I've all
but
> > given up on that so now I'm focusing on the temp gauge. I've tried
measuring
> > the resistance and grounding out the pink wire but got no where. Does
the
> > jeep need to be running or can you have the key all the way forward to
take
> > readings?
> > Thanks!
> >
> > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > news:CFexb.1132$Ec3.53@news01.roc.ny...
> > > Not necessarily... the 12V at the fuel gauge terminal I provides input
to
> > > the regulator. Do you have a volt meter? Simply measure for the 12V
at
> > > fuel gauge I terminal. If it is there, then measure at temperature
gauge
> > A
> > > terminal for 5V (should be same as fuel gauge terminal A). Does the
fuel
> > > gauge work? You seem to be stuck on the that.
> > >
> > >
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/el...y/SpedoPic.jpg
> > >
> > > JimG
> > >
> > > <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > news:fxdxb.28431$uw5.28361@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> > > > So juice going to the fuel gauge could somehow not get to the temp
gauge
> > > if
> > > > there is a malfunction in the fuel gauge correct?
> > > > Allen
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:ufdxb.1120$IN2.85@news01.roc.ny...
> > > > > You are correct there has to be 12V there for the regulator to
work.
> > > > >
> > > > > JimG
> > > > >
> > > > > <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:VTcxb.42381$kL2.28316@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
> > > > > > But isn't there only one hot wire going to the fuel gauge? And
then
> > if
> > > > > that
> > > > > > wire somehow does not get juice, it doesn't jump over to the
temp
> > > > > gauge,..is
> > > > > > that a correct assumption??
> > > > > > thanks
> > > > > > Allen
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:bkcxb.1105$yY.539@news01.roc.ny...
> > > > > > > The jumper is to get the regulated 5V to the temperature
gauge.
> > The
> > > > > fuel
> > > > > > > gauge does not have to work for the temperature to work as
long as
> > > the
> > > > > > > regulator works.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > JimG
> > > > > > > 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> > > > > > > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > > > > > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> > > > > > > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> > > > > > > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > > > > > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:7xbxb.28236$uw5.23619@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> > > > > > > > I hate beating this dead horse but...am I to understand that
the
> > > > > jumper
> > > > > > > > between the fuel and temp is to get the power over from the
fuel
> > > to
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > temp
> > > > > > > > gauge? And if this is the case,...if the fuel gauge is bad,
will
> > > it
> > > > > send
> > > > > > > > power to the temp gauge? In otherwords,..if the fuel gauge
goes
> > > bad,
> > > > > > does
> > > > > > > > the temp gauge then also fail to read?
> > > > > > > > Allen
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 83 CJ7
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >

Re: Yet another gauge question: CJ
 

Yeah,..right now neither work. I do have a hot lead going to them though
(fuel).
Allen

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3FC586DE.F59FD9C4@sympatico.ca...
> Are you saying 'both' gauges don't work?
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> ABanks5@columbus.rr.com wrote:
> >
> > http://www.monsterslayer.com/jeep/Gauges.htm
> >
> > I do have a volt meter but I'm a complete idiot when it comes to using
it. I
> > can't seem to get the reading...or even close...even making heads or
tails
> > out of the readings from it. The fuel gauge does not work and I've all
but
> > given up on that so now I'm focusing on the temp gauge. I've tried
measuring
> > the resistance and grounding out the pink wire but got no where. Does
the
> > jeep need to be running or can you have the key all the way forward to
take
> > readings?
> > Thanks!
> >
> > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > news:CFexb.1132$Ec3.53@news01.roc.ny...
> > > Not necessarily... the 12V at the fuel gauge terminal I provides input
to
> > > the regulator. Do you have a volt meter? Simply measure for the 12V
at
> > > fuel gauge I terminal. If it is there, then measure at temperature
gauge
> > A
> > > terminal for 5V (should be same as fuel gauge terminal A). Does the
fuel
> > > gauge work? You seem to be stuck on the that.
> > >
> > >
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/el...y/SpedoPic.jpg
> > >
> > > JimG
> > >
> > > <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > news:fxdxb.28431$uw5.28361@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> > > > So juice going to the fuel gauge could somehow not get to the temp
gauge
> > > if
> > > > there is a malfunction in the fuel gauge correct?
> > > > Allen
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:ufdxb.1120$IN2.85@news01.roc.ny...
> > > > > You are correct there has to be 12V there for the regulator to
work.
> > > > >
> > > > > JimG
> > > > >
> > > > > <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:VTcxb.42381$kL2.28316@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
> > > > > > But isn't there only one hot wire going to the fuel gauge? And
then
> > if
> > > > > that
> > > > > > wire somehow does not get juice, it doesn't jump over to the
temp
> > > > > gauge,..is
> > > > > > that a correct assumption??
> > > > > > thanks
> > > > > > Allen
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:bkcxb.1105$yY.539@news01.roc.ny...
> > > > > > > The jumper is to get the regulated 5V to the temperature
gauge.
> > The
> > > > > fuel
> > > > > > > gauge does not have to work for the temperature to work as
long as
> > > the
> > > > > > > regulator works.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > JimG
> > > > > > > 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> > > > > > > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > > > > > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> > > > > > > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> > > > > > > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > > > > > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:7xbxb.28236$uw5.23619@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> > > > > > > > I hate beating this dead horse but...am I to understand that
the
> > > > > jumper
> > > > > > > > between the fuel and temp is to get the power over from the
fuel
> > > to
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > temp
> > > > > > > > gauge? And if this is the case,...if the fuel gauge is bad,
will
> > > it
> > > > > send
> > > > > > > > power to the temp gauge? In otherwords,..if the fuel gauge
goes
> > > bad,
> > > > > > does
> > > > > > > > the temp gauge then also fail to read?
> > > > > > > > Allen
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 83 CJ7
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >

Re: Yet another gauge question: CJ
 

To find out if it's a voltage regulator issue, you need to put a
multimeter on the strap between the gauges. If you have 5 volts there
then you need to look at the senders.

Mike

ABanks5@columbus.rr.com wrote:
>
> Yeah,..right now neither work. I do have a hot lead going to them though
> (fuel).
> Allen
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3FC586DE.F59FD9C4@sympatico.ca...
> > Are you saying 'both' gauges don't work?
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > ABanks5@columbus.rr.com wrote:
> > >
> > > http://www.monsterslayer.com/jeep/Gauges.htm
> > >
> > > I do have a volt meter but I'm a complete idiot when it comes to using
> it. I
> > > can't seem to get the reading...or even close...even making heads or
> tails
> > > out of the readings from it. The fuel gauge does not work and I've all
> but
> > > given up on that so now I'm focusing on the temp gauge. I've tried
> measuring
> > > the resistance and grounding out the pink wire but got no where. Does
> the
> > > jeep need to be running or can you have the key all the way forward to
> take
> > > readings?
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > > news:CFexb.1132$Ec3.53@news01.roc.ny...
> > > > Not necessarily... the 12V at the fuel gauge terminal I provides input
> to
> > > > the regulator. Do you have a volt meter? Simply measure for the 12V
> at
> > > > fuel gauge I terminal. If it is there, then measure at temperature
> gauge
> > > A
> > > > terminal for 5V (should be same as fuel gauge terminal A). Does the
> fuel
> > > > gauge work? You seem to be stuck on the that.
> > > >
> > > >
> http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/el...y/SpedoPic.jpg
> > > >
> > > > JimG
> > > >
> > > > <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:fxdxb.28431$uw5.28361@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> > > > > So juice going to the fuel gauge could somehow not get to the temp
> gauge
> > > > if
> > > > > there is a malfunction in the fuel gauge correct?
> > > > > Allen
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:ufdxb.1120$IN2.85@news01.roc.ny...
> > > > > > You are correct there has to be 12V there for the regulator to
> work.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > JimG
> > > > > >
> > > > > > <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:VTcxb.42381$kL2.28316@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
> > > > > > > But isn't there only one hot wire going to the fuel gauge? And
> then
> > > if
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > > wire somehow does not get juice, it doesn't jump over to the
> temp
> > > > > > gauge,..is
> > > > > > > that a correct assumption??
> > > > > > > thanks
> > > > > > > Allen
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:bkcxb.1105$yY.539@news01.roc.ny...
> > > > > > > > The jumper is to get the regulated 5V to the temperature
> gauge.
> > > The
> > > > > > fuel
> > > > > > > > gauge does not have to work for the temperature to work as
> long as
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > regulator works.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > JimG
> > > > > > > > 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> > > > > > > > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > > > > > > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> > > > > > > > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> > > > > > > > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > > > > > > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > news:7xbxb.28236$uw5.23619@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> > > > > > > > > I hate beating this dead horse but...am I to understand that
> the
> > > > > > jumper
> > > > > > > > > between the fuel and temp is to get the power over from the
> fuel
> > > > to
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > temp
> > > > > > > > > gauge? And if this is the case,...if the fuel gauge is bad,
> will
> > > > it
> > > > > > send
> > > > > > > > > power to the temp gauge? In otherwords,..if the fuel gauge
> goes
> > > > bad,
> > > > > > > does
> > > > > > > > > the temp gauge then also fail to read?
> > > > > > > > > Allen
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 83 CJ7
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >

Re: Yet another gauge question: CJ
 

To find out if it's a voltage regulator issue, you need to put a
multimeter on the strap between the gauges. If you have 5 volts there
then you need to look at the senders.

Mike

ABanks5@columbus.rr.com wrote:
>
> Yeah,..right now neither work. I do have a hot lead going to them though
> (fuel).
> Allen
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3FC586DE.F59FD9C4@sympatico.ca...
> > Are you saying 'both' gauges don't work?
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > ABanks5@columbus.rr.com wrote:
> > >
> > > http://www.monsterslayer.com/jeep/Gauges.htm
> > >
> > > I do have a volt meter but I'm a complete idiot when it comes to using
> it. I
> > > can't seem to get the reading...or even close...even making heads or
> tails
> > > out of the readings from it. The fuel gauge does not work and I've all
> but
> > > given up on that so now I'm focusing on the temp gauge. I've tried
> measuring
> > > the resistance and grounding out the pink wire but got no where. Does
> the
> > > jeep need to be running or can you have the key all the way forward to
> take
> > > readings?
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > > news:CFexb.1132$Ec3.53@news01.roc.ny...
> > > > Not necessarily... the 12V at the fuel gauge terminal I provides input
> to
> > > > the regulator. Do you have a volt meter? Simply measure for the 12V
> at
> > > > fuel gauge I terminal. If it is there, then measure at temperature
> gauge
> > > A
> > > > terminal for 5V (should be same as fuel gauge terminal A). Does the
> fuel
> > > > gauge work? You seem to be stuck on the that.
> > > >
> > > >
> http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/el...y/SpedoPic.jpg
> > > >
> > > > JimG
> > > >
> > > > <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:fxdxb.28431$uw5.28361@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> > > > > So juice going to the fuel gauge could somehow not get to the temp
> gauge
> > > > if
> > > > > there is a malfunction in the fuel gauge correct?
> > > > > Allen
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:ufdxb.1120$IN2.85@news01.roc.ny...
> > > > > > You are correct there has to be 12V there for the regulator to
> work.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > JimG
> > > > > >
> > > > > > <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:VTcxb.42381$kL2.28316@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
> > > > > > > But isn't there only one hot wire going to the fuel gauge? And
> then
> > > if
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > > wire somehow does not get juice, it doesn't jump over to the
> temp
> > > > > > gauge,..is
> > > > > > > that a correct assumption??
> > > > > > > thanks
> > > > > > > Allen
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:bkcxb.1105$yY.539@news01.roc.ny...
> > > > > > > > The jumper is to get the regulated 5V to the temperature
> gauge.
> > > The
> > > > > > fuel
> > > > > > > > gauge does not have to work for the temperature to work as
> long as
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > regulator works.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > JimG
> > > > > > > > 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> > > > > > > > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > > > > > > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> > > > > > > > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> > > > > > > > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > > > > > > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > news:7xbxb.28236$uw5.23619@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> > > > > > > > > I hate beating this dead horse but...am I to understand that
> the
> > > > > > jumper
> > > > > > > > > between the fuel and temp is to get the power over from the
> fuel
> > > > to
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > temp
> > > > > > > > > gauge? And if this is the case,...if the fuel gauge is bad,
> will
> > > > it
> > > > > > send
> > > > > > > > > power to the temp gauge? In otherwords,..if the fuel gauge
> goes
> > > > bad,
> > > > > > > does
> > > > > > > > > the temp gauge then also fail to read?
> > > > > > > > > Allen
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 83 CJ7
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >

Re: Yet another gauge question: CJ
 

To find out if it's a voltage regulator issue, you need to put a
multimeter on the strap between the gauges. If you have 5 volts there
then you need to look at the senders.

Mike

ABanks5@columbus.rr.com wrote:
>
> Yeah,..right now neither work. I do have a hot lead going to them though
> (fuel).
> Allen
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3FC586DE.F59FD9C4@sympatico.ca...
> > Are you saying 'both' gauges don't work?
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > ABanks5@columbus.rr.com wrote:
> > >
> > > http://www.monsterslayer.com/jeep/Gauges.htm
> > >
> > > I do have a volt meter but I'm a complete idiot when it comes to using
> it. I
> > > can't seem to get the reading...or even close...even making heads or
> tails
> > > out of the readings from it. The fuel gauge does not work and I've all
> but
> > > given up on that so now I'm focusing on the temp gauge. I've tried
> measuring
> > > the resistance and grounding out the pink wire but got no where. Does
> the
> > > jeep need to be running or can you have the key all the way forward to
> take
> > > readings?
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > > news:CFexb.1132$Ec3.53@news01.roc.ny...
> > > > Not necessarily... the 12V at the fuel gauge terminal I provides input
> to
> > > > the regulator. Do you have a volt meter? Simply measure for the 12V
> at
> > > > fuel gauge I terminal. If it is there, then measure at temperature
> gauge
> > > A
> > > > terminal for 5V (should be same as fuel gauge terminal A). Does the
> fuel
> > > > gauge work? You seem to be stuck on the that.
> > > >
> > > >
> http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/el...y/SpedoPic.jpg
> > > >
> > > > JimG
> > > >
> > > > <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:fxdxb.28431$uw5.28361@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> > > > > So juice going to the fuel gauge could somehow not get to the temp
> gauge
> > > > if
> > > > > there is a malfunction in the fuel gauge correct?
> > > > > Allen
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:ufdxb.1120$IN2.85@news01.roc.ny...
> > > > > > You are correct there has to be 12V there for the regulator to
> work.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > JimG
> > > > > >
> > > > > > <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:VTcxb.42381$kL2.28316@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
> > > > > > > But isn't there only one hot wire going to the fuel gauge? And
> then
> > > if
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > > wire somehow does not get juice, it doesn't jump over to the
> temp
> > > > > > gauge,..is
> > > > > > > that a correct assumption??
> > > > > > > thanks
> > > > > > > Allen
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:bkcxb.1105$yY.539@news01.roc.ny...
> > > > > > > > The jumper is to get the regulated 5V to the temperature
> gauge.
> > > The
> > > > > > fuel
> > > > > > > > gauge does not have to work for the temperature to work as
> long as
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > regulator works.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > JimG
> > > > > > > > 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> > > > > > > > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > > > > > > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> > > > > > > > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> > > > > > > > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > > > > > > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > news:7xbxb.28236$uw5.23619@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> > > > > > > > > I hate beating this dead horse but...am I to understand that
> the
> > > > > > jumper
> > > > > > > > > between the fuel and temp is to get the power over from the
> fuel
> > > > to
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > temp
> > > > > > > > > gauge? And if this is the case,...if the fuel gauge is bad,
> will
> > > > it
> > > > > > send
> > > > > > > > > power to the temp gauge? In otherwords,..if the fuel gauge
> goes
> > > > bad,
> > > > > > > does
> > > > > > > > > the temp gauge then also fail to read?
> > > > > > > > > Allen
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 83 CJ7
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >