Guest

http://www.monsterslayer.com/jeep/Gauges.htm

I do have a volt meter but I'm a complete idiot when it comes to using it. I
can't seem to get the reading...or even close...even making heads or tails
out of the readings from it. The fuel gauge does not work and I've all but
given up on that so now I'm focusing on the temp gauge. I've tried measuring
the resistance and grounding out the pink wire but got no where. Does the
jeep need to be running or can you have the key all the way forward to take
readings?
Thanks!



"JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
news:CFexb.1132$Ec3.53@news01.roc.ny...
> Not necessarily... the 12V at the fuel gauge terminal I provides input to
> the regulator. Do you have a volt meter? Simply measure for the 12V at
> fuel gauge I terminal. If it is there, then measure at temperature gauge
A
> terminal for 5V (should be same as fuel gauge terminal A). Does the fuel
> gauge work? You seem to be stuck on the that.
>
> http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/el...y/SpedoPic.jpg
>
> JimG
>
> <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:fxdxb.28431$uw5.28361@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> > So juice going to the fuel gauge could somehow not get to the temp gauge
> if
> > there is a malfunction in the fuel gauge correct?
> > Allen
> >
> >
> >
> > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > news:ufdxb.1120$IN2.85@news01.roc.ny...
> > > You are correct there has to be 12V there for the regulator to work.
> > >
> > > JimG
> > >
> > > <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > news:VTcxb.42381$kL2.28316@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
> > > > But isn't there only one hot wire going to the fuel gauge? And then
if
> > > that
> > > > wire somehow does not get juice, it doesn't jump over to the temp
> > > gauge,..is
> > > > that a correct assumption??
> > > > thanks
> > > > Allen
> > > >
> > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:bkcxb.1105$yY.539@news01.roc.ny...
> > > > > The jumper is to get the regulated 5V to the temperature gauge.
The
> > > fuel
> > > > > gauge does not have to work for the temperature to work as long as
> the
> > > > > regulator works.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > JimG
> > > > > 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> > > > > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > > > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> > > > > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> > > > > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > > > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
> > > > >
> > > > > <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:7xbxb.28236$uw5.23619@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> > > > > > I hate beating this dead horse but...am I to understand that the
> > > jumper
> > > > > > between the fuel and temp is to get the power over from the fuel
> to
> > > the
> > > > > temp
> > > > > > gauge? And if this is the case,...if the fuel gauge is bad, will
> it
> > > send
> > > > > > power to the temp gauge? In otherwords,..if the fuel gauge goes
> bad,
> > > > does
> > > > > > the temp gauge then also fail to read?
> > > > > > Allen
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 83 CJ7
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Guest

http://www.monsterslayer.com/jeep/Gauges.htm

I do have a volt meter but I'm a complete idiot when it comes to using it. I
can't seem to get the reading...or even close...even making heads or tails
out of the readings from it. The fuel gauge does not work and I've all but
given up on that so now I'm focusing on the temp gauge. I've tried measuring
the resistance and grounding out the pink wire but got no where. Does the
jeep need to be running or can you have the key all the way forward to take
readings?
Thanks!



"JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
news:CFexb.1132$Ec3.53@news01.roc.ny...
> Not necessarily... the 12V at the fuel gauge terminal I provides input to
> the regulator. Do you have a volt meter? Simply measure for the 12V at
> fuel gauge I terminal. If it is there, then measure at temperature gauge
A
> terminal for 5V (should be same as fuel gauge terminal A). Does the fuel
> gauge work? You seem to be stuck on the that.
>
> http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/el...y/SpedoPic.jpg
>
> JimG
>
> <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:fxdxb.28431$uw5.28361@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> > So juice going to the fuel gauge could somehow not get to the temp gauge
> if
> > there is a malfunction in the fuel gauge correct?
> > Allen
> >
> >
> >
> > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > news:ufdxb.1120$IN2.85@news01.roc.ny...
> > > You are correct there has to be 12V there for the regulator to work.
> > >
> > > JimG
> > >
> > > <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > news:VTcxb.42381$kL2.28316@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
> > > > But isn't there only one hot wire going to the fuel gauge? And then
if
> > > that
> > > > wire somehow does not get juice, it doesn't jump over to the temp
> > > gauge,..is
> > > > that a correct assumption??
> > > > thanks
> > > > Allen
> > > >
> > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:bkcxb.1105$yY.539@news01.roc.ny...
> > > > > The jumper is to get the regulated 5V to the temperature gauge.
The
> > > fuel
> > > > > gauge does not have to work for the temperature to work as long as
> the
> > > > > regulator works.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > JimG
> > > > > 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> > > > > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > > > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> > > > > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> > > > > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > > > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
> > > > >
> > > > > <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:7xbxb.28236$uw5.23619@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> > > > > > I hate beating this dead horse but...am I to understand that the
> > > jumper
> > > > > > between the fuel and temp is to get the power over from the fuel
> to
> > > the
> > > > > temp
> > > > > > gauge? And if this is the case,...if the fuel gauge is bad, will
> it
> > > send
> > > > > > power to the temp gauge? In otherwords,..if the fuel gauge goes
> bad,
> > > > does
> > > > > > the temp gauge then also fail to read?
> > > > > > Allen
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 83 CJ7
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Guest

http://www.monsterslayer.com/jeep/Gauges.htm

I do have a volt meter but I'm a complete idiot when it comes to using it. I
can't seem to get the reading...or even close...even making heads or tails
out of the readings from it. The fuel gauge does not work and I've all but
given up on that so now I'm focusing on the temp gauge. I've tried measuring
the resistance and grounding out the pink wire but got no where. Does the
jeep need to be running or can you have the key all the way forward to take
readings?
Thanks!



"JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
news:CFexb.1132$Ec3.53@news01.roc.ny...
> Not necessarily... the 12V at the fuel gauge terminal I provides input to
> the regulator. Do you have a volt meter? Simply measure for the 12V at
> fuel gauge I terminal. If it is there, then measure at temperature gauge
A
> terminal for 5V (should be same as fuel gauge terminal A). Does the fuel
> gauge work? You seem to be stuck on the that.
>
> http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/el...y/SpedoPic.jpg
>
> JimG
>
> <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:fxdxb.28431$uw5.28361@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> > So juice going to the fuel gauge could somehow not get to the temp gauge
> if
> > there is a malfunction in the fuel gauge correct?
> > Allen
> >
> >
> >
> > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > news:ufdxb.1120$IN2.85@news01.roc.ny...
> > > You are correct there has to be 12V there for the regulator to work.
> > >
> > > JimG
> > >
> > > <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > news:VTcxb.42381$kL2.28316@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
> > > > But isn't there only one hot wire going to the fuel gauge? And then
if
> > > that
> > > > wire somehow does not get juice, it doesn't jump over to the temp
> > > gauge,..is
> > > > that a correct assumption??
> > > > thanks
> > > > Allen
> > > >
> > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:bkcxb.1105$yY.539@news01.roc.ny...
> > > > > The jumper is to get the regulated 5V to the temperature gauge.
The
> > > fuel
> > > > > gauge does not have to work for the temperature to work as long as
> the
> > > > > regulator works.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > JimG
> > > > > 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> > > > > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > > > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> > > > > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> > > > > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > > > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
> > > > >
> > > > > <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:7xbxb.28236$uw5.23619@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> > > > > > I hate beating this dead horse but...am I to understand that the
> > > jumper
> > > > > > between the fuel and temp is to get the power over from the fuel
> to
> > > the
> > > > > temp
> > > > > > gauge? And if this is the case,...if the fuel gauge is bad, will
> it
> > > send
> > > > > > power to the temp gauge? In otherwords,..if the fuel gauge goes
> bad,
> > > > does
> > > > > > the temp gauge then also fail to read?
> > > > > > Allen
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 83 CJ7
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Mike Romain

Are you saying 'both' gauges don't work?

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

ABanks5@columbus.rr.com wrote:
>
> http://www.monsterslayer.com/jeep/Gauges.htm
>
> I do have a volt meter but I'm a complete idiot when it comes to using it. I
> can't seem to get the reading...or even close...even making heads or tails
> out of the readings from it. The fuel gauge does not work and I've all but
> given up on that so now I'm focusing on the temp gauge. I've tried measuring
> the resistance and grounding out the pink wire but got no where. Does the
> jeep need to be running or can you have the key all the way forward to take
> readings?
> Thanks!
>
> "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> news:CFexb.1132$Ec3.53@news01.roc.ny...
> > Not necessarily... the 12V at the fuel gauge terminal I provides input to
> > the regulator. Do you have a volt meter? Simply measure for the 12V at
> > fuel gauge I terminal. If it is there, then measure at temperature gauge
> A
> > terminal for 5V (should be same as fuel gauge terminal A). Does the fuel
> > gauge work? You seem to be stuck on the that.
> >
> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/el...y/SpedoPic.jpg
> >
> > JimG
> >
> > <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:fxdxb.28431$uw5.28361@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> > > So juice going to the fuel gauge could somehow not get to the temp gauge
> > if
> > > there is a malfunction in the fuel gauge correct?
> > > Allen
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > > news:ufdxb.1120$IN2.85@news01.roc.ny...
> > > > You are correct there has to be 12V there for the regulator to work.
> > > >
> > > > JimG
> > > >
> > > > <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:VTcxb.42381$kL2.28316@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
> > > > > But isn't there only one hot wire going to the fuel gauge? And then
> if
> > > > that
> > > > > wire somehow does not get juice, it doesn't jump over to the temp
> > > > gauge,..is
> > > > > that a correct assumption??
> > > > > thanks
> > > > > Allen
> > > > >
> > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:bkcxb.1105$yY.539@news01.roc.ny...
> > > > > > The jumper is to get the regulated 5V to the temperature gauge.
> The
> > > > fuel
> > > > > > gauge does not have to work for the temperature to work as long as
> > the
> > > > > > regulator works.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > JimG
> > > > > > 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> > > > > > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > > > > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> > > > > > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> > > > > > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > > > > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
> > > > > >
> > > > > > <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:7xbxb.28236$uw5.23619@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> > > > > > > I hate beating this dead horse but...am I to understand that the
> > > > jumper
> > > > > > > between the fuel and temp is to get the power over from the fuel
> > to
> > > > the
> > > > > > temp
> > > > > > > gauge? And if this is the case,...if the fuel gauge is bad, will
> > it
> > > > send
> > > > > > > power to the temp gauge? In otherwords,..if the fuel gauge goes
> > bad,
> > > > > does
> > > > > > > the temp gauge then also fail to read?
> > > > > > > Allen
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 83 CJ7
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >

Mike Romain

Are you saying 'both' gauges don't work?

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

ABanks5@columbus.rr.com wrote:
>
> http://www.monsterslayer.com/jeep/Gauges.htm
>
> I do have a volt meter but I'm a complete idiot when it comes to using it. I
> can't seem to get the reading...or even close...even making heads or tails
> out of the readings from it. The fuel gauge does not work and I've all but
> given up on that so now I'm focusing on the temp gauge. I've tried measuring
> the resistance and grounding out the pink wire but got no where. Does the
> jeep need to be running or can you have the key all the way forward to take
> readings?
> Thanks!
>
> "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> news:CFexb.1132$Ec3.53@news01.roc.ny...
> > Not necessarily... the 12V at the fuel gauge terminal I provides input to
> > the regulator. Do you have a volt meter? Simply measure for the 12V at
> > fuel gauge I terminal. If it is there, then measure at temperature gauge
> A
> > terminal for 5V (should be same as fuel gauge terminal A). Does the fuel
> > gauge work? You seem to be stuck on the that.
> >
> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/el...y/SpedoPic.jpg
> >
> > JimG
> >
> > <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:fxdxb.28431$uw5.28361@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> > > So juice going to the fuel gauge could somehow not get to the temp gauge
> > if
> > > there is a malfunction in the fuel gauge correct?
> > > Allen
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > > news:ufdxb.1120$IN2.85@news01.roc.ny...
> > > > You are correct there has to be 12V there for the regulator to work.
> > > >
> > > > JimG
> > > >
> > > > <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:VTcxb.42381$kL2.28316@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
> > > > > But isn't there only one hot wire going to the fuel gauge? And then
> if
> > > > that
> > > > > wire somehow does not get juice, it doesn't jump over to the temp
> > > > gauge,..is
> > > > > that a correct assumption??
> > > > > thanks
> > > > > Allen
> > > > >
> > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:bkcxb.1105$yY.539@news01.roc.ny...
> > > > > > The jumper is to get the regulated 5V to the temperature gauge.
> The
> > > > fuel
> > > > > > gauge does not have to work for the temperature to work as long as
> > the
> > > > > > regulator works.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > JimG
> > > > > > 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> > > > > > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > > > > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> > > > > > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> > > > > > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > > > > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
> > > > > >
> > > > > > <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:7xbxb.28236$uw5.23619@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> > > > > > > I hate beating this dead horse but...am I to understand that the
> > > > jumper
> > > > > > > between the fuel and temp is to get the power over from the fuel
> > to
> > > > the
> > > > > > temp
> > > > > > > gauge? And if this is the case,...if the fuel gauge is bad, will
> > it
> > > > send
> > > > > > > power to the temp gauge? In otherwords,..if the fuel gauge goes
> > bad,
> > > > > does
> > > > > > > the temp gauge then also fail to read?
> > > > > > > Allen
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 83 CJ7
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >

Mike Romain

Are you saying 'both' gauges don't work?

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

ABanks5@columbus.rr.com wrote:
>
> http://www.monsterslayer.com/jeep/Gauges.htm
>
> I do have a volt meter but I'm a complete idiot when it comes to using it. I
> can't seem to get the reading...or even close...even making heads or tails
> out of the readings from it. The fuel gauge does not work and I've all but
> given up on that so now I'm focusing on the temp gauge. I've tried measuring
> the resistance and grounding out the pink wire but got no where. Does the
> jeep need to be running or can you have the key all the way forward to take
> readings?
> Thanks!
>
> "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> news:CFexb.1132$Ec3.53@news01.roc.ny...
> > Not necessarily... the 12V at the fuel gauge terminal I provides input to
> > the regulator. Do you have a volt meter? Simply measure for the 12V at
> > fuel gauge I terminal. If it is there, then measure at temperature gauge
> A
> > terminal for 5V (should be same as fuel gauge terminal A). Does the fuel
> > gauge work? You seem to be stuck on the that.
> >
> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/el...y/SpedoPic.jpg
> >
> > JimG
> >
> > <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:fxdxb.28431$uw5.28361@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> > > So juice going to the fuel gauge could somehow not get to the temp gauge
> > if
> > > there is a malfunction in the fuel gauge correct?
> > > Allen
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > > news:ufdxb.1120$IN2.85@news01.roc.ny...
> > > > You are correct there has to be 12V there for the regulator to work.
> > > >
> > > > JimG
> > > >
> > > > <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:VTcxb.42381$kL2.28316@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
> > > > > But isn't there only one hot wire going to the fuel gauge? And then
> if
> > > > that
> > > > > wire somehow does not get juice, it doesn't jump over to the temp
> > > > gauge,..is
> > > > > that a correct assumption??
> > > > > thanks
> > > > > Allen
> > > > >
> > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:bkcxb.1105$yY.539@news01.roc.ny...
> > > > > > The jumper is to get the regulated 5V to the temperature gauge.
> The
> > > > fuel
> > > > > > gauge does not have to work for the temperature to work as long as
> > the
> > > > > > regulator works.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > JimG
> > > > > > 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> > > > > > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > > > > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> > > > > > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> > > > > > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > > > > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
> > > > > >
> > > > > > <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:7xbxb.28236$uw5.23619@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> > > > > > > I hate beating this dead horse but...am I to understand that the
> > > > jumper
> > > > > > > between the fuel and temp is to get the power over from the fuel
> > to
> > > > the
> > > > > > temp
> > > > > > > gauge? And if this is the case,...if the fuel gauge is bad, will
> > it
> > > > send
> > > > > > > power to the temp gauge? In otherwords,..if the fuel gauge goes
> > bad,
> > > > > does
> > > > > > > the temp gauge then also fail to read?
> > > > > > > Allen
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 83 CJ7
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >

JimG

The key does have to be on. Put the meter away until you learn how to use
it.

OK,
Fuel gauge: If you can get to the pink wire on the fuel sender at the tank
(body lift makes this easy), take it loose and touch it to ground, check the
gauge, if it goes to full you have a bad sender and the voltage to the
gauge is OK. If not then there is no volts at the gauge or the gauge is
bad. Usually it is the sender.

Temp gauge: If fuel gauge went to full in above test, continue. (If not
then you need to get volts to the fuel/temp gauge before continuing) Pull
the wire from the temp. sender at the back of the block and touch it to
ground, look at temp gauge. If it goes to hot then you have a bad temp.
sender. If not then, the regulator/gauge is bad. Replace the fuel/temp
cluster.

JimG

<ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
news:rkfxb.24028$up3.492@fe1.columbus.rr.com...
> http://www.monsterslayer.com/jeep/Gauges.htm
>
> I do have a volt meter but I'm a complete idiot when it comes to using it.
I
> can't seem to get the reading...or even close...even making heads or tails
> out of the readings from it. The fuel gauge does not work and I've all but
> given up on that so now I'm focusing on the temp gauge. I've tried
measuring
> the resistance and grounding out the pink wire but got no where. Does the
> jeep need to be running or can you have the key all the way forward to
take
> readings?
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> news:CFexb.1132$Ec3.53@news01.roc.ny...
> > Not necessarily... the 12V at the fuel gauge terminal I provides input
to
> > the regulator. Do you have a volt meter? Simply measure for the 12V at
> > fuel gauge I terminal. If it is there, then measure at temperature
gauge
> A
> > terminal for 5V (should be same as fuel gauge terminal A). Does the
fuel
> > gauge work? You seem to be stuck on the that.
> >
> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/el...y/SpedoPic.jpg
> >
> > JimG
> >
> > <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:fxdxb.28431$uw5.28361@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> > > So juice going to the fuel gauge could somehow not get to the temp
gauge
> > if
> > > there is a malfunction in the fuel gauge correct?
> > > Allen
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > > news:ufdxb.1120$IN2.85@news01.roc.ny...
> > > > You are correct there has to be 12V there for the regulator to work.
> > > >
> > > > JimG
> > > >
> > > > <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:VTcxb.42381$kL2.28316@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
> > > > > But isn't there only one hot wire going to the fuel gauge? And
then
> if
> > > > that
> > > > > wire somehow does not get juice, it doesn't jump over to the temp
> > > > gauge,..is
> > > > > that a correct assumption??
> > > > > thanks
> > > > > Allen
> > > > >
> > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:bkcxb.1105$yY.539@news01.roc.ny...
> > > > > > The jumper is to get the regulated 5V to the temperature gauge.
> The
> > > > fuel
> > > > > > gauge does not have to work for the temperature to work as long
as
> > the
> > > > > > regulator works.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > JimG
> > > > > > 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> > > > > > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > > > > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> > > > > > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> > > > > > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > > > > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
> > > > > >
> > > > > > <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:7xbxb.28236$uw5.23619@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> > > > > > > I hate beating this dead horse but...am I to understand that
the
> > > > jumper
> > > > > > > between the fuel and temp is to get the power over from the
fuel
> > to
> > > > the
> > > > > > temp
> > > > > > > gauge? And if this is the case,...if the fuel gauge is bad,
will
> > it
> > > > send
> > > > > > > power to the temp gauge? In otherwords,..if the fuel gauge
goes
> > bad,
> > > > > does
> > > > > > > the temp gauge then also fail to read?
> > > > > > > Allen
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 83 CJ7
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

JimG

The key does have to be on. Put the meter away until you learn how to use
it.

OK,
Fuel gauge: If you can get to the pink wire on the fuel sender at the tank
(body lift makes this easy), take it loose and touch it to ground, check the
gauge, if it goes to full you have a bad sender and the voltage to the
gauge is OK. If not then there is no volts at the gauge or the gauge is
bad. Usually it is the sender.

Temp gauge: If fuel gauge went to full in above test, continue. (If not
then you need to get volts to the fuel/temp gauge before continuing) Pull
the wire from the temp. sender at the back of the block and touch it to
ground, look at temp gauge. If it goes to hot then you have a bad temp.
sender. If not then, the regulator/gauge is bad. Replace the fuel/temp
cluster.

JimG

<ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
news:rkfxb.24028$up3.492@fe1.columbus.rr.com...
> http://www.monsterslayer.com/jeep/Gauges.htm
>
> I do have a volt meter but I'm a complete idiot when it comes to using it.
I
> can't seem to get the reading...or even close...even making heads or tails
> out of the readings from it. The fuel gauge does not work and I've all but
> given up on that so now I'm focusing on the temp gauge. I've tried
measuring
> the resistance and grounding out the pink wire but got no where. Does the
> jeep need to be running or can you have the key all the way forward to
take
> readings?
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> news:CFexb.1132$Ec3.53@news01.roc.ny...
> > Not necessarily... the 12V at the fuel gauge terminal I provides input
to
> > the regulator. Do you have a volt meter? Simply measure for the 12V at
> > fuel gauge I terminal. If it is there, then measure at temperature
gauge
> A
> > terminal for 5V (should be same as fuel gauge terminal A). Does the
fuel
> > gauge work? You seem to be stuck on the that.
> >
> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/el...y/SpedoPic.jpg
> >
> > JimG
> >
> > <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:fxdxb.28431$uw5.28361@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> > > So juice going to the fuel gauge could somehow not get to the temp
gauge
> > if
> > > there is a malfunction in the fuel gauge correct?
> > > Allen
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > > news:ufdxb.1120$IN2.85@news01.roc.ny...
> > > > You are correct there has to be 12V there for the regulator to work.
> > > >
> > > > JimG
> > > >
> > > > <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:VTcxb.42381$kL2.28316@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
> > > > > But isn't there only one hot wire going to the fuel gauge? And
then
> if
> > > > that
> > > > > wire somehow does not get juice, it doesn't jump over to the temp
> > > > gauge,..is
> > > > > that a correct assumption??
> > > > > thanks
> > > > > Allen
> > > > >
> > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:bkcxb.1105$yY.539@news01.roc.ny...
> > > > > > The jumper is to get the regulated 5V to the temperature gauge.
> The
> > > > fuel
> > > > > > gauge does not have to work for the temperature to work as long
as
> > the
> > > > > > regulator works.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > JimG
> > > > > > 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> > > > > > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > > > > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> > > > > > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> > > > > > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > > > > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
> > > > > >
> > > > > > <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:7xbxb.28236$uw5.23619@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> > > > > > > I hate beating this dead horse but...am I to understand that
the
> > > > jumper
> > > > > > > between the fuel and temp is to get the power over from the
fuel
> > to
> > > > the
> > > > > > temp
> > > > > > > gauge? And if this is the case,...if the fuel gauge is bad,
will
> > it
> > > > send
> > > > > > > power to the temp gauge? In otherwords,..if the fuel gauge
goes
> > bad,
> > > > > does
> > > > > > > the temp gauge then also fail to read?
> > > > > > > Allen
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 83 CJ7
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

JimG

The key does have to be on. Put the meter away until you learn how to use
it.

OK,
Fuel gauge: If you can get to the pink wire on the fuel sender at the tank
(body lift makes this easy), take it loose and touch it to ground, check the
gauge, if it goes to full you have a bad sender and the voltage to the
gauge is OK. If not then there is no volts at the gauge or the gauge is
bad. Usually it is the sender.

Temp gauge: If fuel gauge went to full in above test, continue. (If not
then you need to get volts to the fuel/temp gauge before continuing) Pull
the wire from the temp. sender at the back of the block and touch it to
ground, look at temp gauge. If it goes to hot then you have a bad temp.
sender. If not then, the regulator/gauge is bad. Replace the fuel/temp
cluster.

JimG

<ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
news:rkfxb.24028$up3.492@fe1.columbus.rr.com...
> http://www.monsterslayer.com/jeep/Gauges.htm
>
> I do have a volt meter but I'm a complete idiot when it comes to using it.
I
> can't seem to get the reading...or even close...even making heads or tails
> out of the readings from it. The fuel gauge does not work and I've all but
> given up on that so now I'm focusing on the temp gauge. I've tried
measuring
> the resistance and grounding out the pink wire but got no where. Does the
> jeep need to be running or can you have the key all the way forward to
take
> readings?
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> news:CFexb.1132$Ec3.53@news01.roc.ny...
> > Not necessarily... the 12V at the fuel gauge terminal I provides input
to
> > the regulator. Do you have a volt meter? Simply measure for the 12V at
> > fuel gauge I terminal. If it is there, then measure at temperature
gauge
> A
> > terminal for 5V (should be same as fuel gauge terminal A). Does the
fuel
> > gauge work? You seem to be stuck on the that.
> >
> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/el...y/SpedoPic.jpg
> >
> > JimG
> >
> > <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:fxdxb.28431$uw5.28361@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> > > So juice going to the fuel gauge could somehow not get to the temp
gauge
> > if
> > > there is a malfunction in the fuel gauge correct?
> > > Allen
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > > news:ufdxb.1120$IN2.85@news01.roc.ny...
> > > > You are correct there has to be 12V there for the regulator to work.
> > > >
> > > > JimG
> > > >
> > > > <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:VTcxb.42381$kL2.28316@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
> > > > > But isn't there only one hot wire going to the fuel gauge? And
then
> if
> > > > that
> > > > > wire somehow does not get juice, it doesn't jump over to the temp
> > > > gauge,..is
> > > > > that a correct assumption??
> > > > > thanks
> > > > > Allen
> > > > >
> > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:bkcxb.1105$yY.539@news01.roc.ny...
> > > > > > The jumper is to get the regulated 5V to the temperature gauge.
> The
> > > > fuel
> > > > > > gauge does not have to work for the temperature to work as long
as
> > the
> > > > > > regulator works.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > JimG
> > > > > > 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> > > > > > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > > > > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> > > > > > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> > > > > > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > > > > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
> > > > > >
> > > > > > <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:7xbxb.28236$uw5.23619@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> > > > > > > I hate beating this dead horse but...am I to understand that
the
> > > > jumper
> > > > > > > between the fuel and temp is to get the power over from the
fuel
> > to
> > > > the
> > > > > > temp
> > > > > > > gauge? And if this is the case,...if the fuel gauge is bad,
will
> > it
> > > > send
> > > > > > > power to the temp gauge? In otherwords,..if the fuel gauge
goes
> > bad,
> > > > > does
> > > > > > > the temp gauge then also fail to read?
> > > > > > > Allen
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 83 CJ7
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Guest

That's about as simple as anyone has come up with. Thanks JimG!!! I'll keep
you posted.
Allen


"JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
news:IFfxb.1141$lB3.558@news01.roc.ny...
> The key does have to be on. Put the meter away until you learn how to use
> it.
>
> OK,
> Fuel gauge: If you can get to the pink wire on the fuel sender at the tank
> (body lift makes this easy), take it loose and touch it to ground, check
the
> gauge, if it goes to full you have a bad sender and the voltage to the
> gauge is OK. If not then there is no volts at the gauge or the gauge is
> bad. Usually it is the sender.
>
> Temp gauge: If fuel gauge went to full in above test, continue. (If not
> then you need to get volts to the fuel/temp gauge before continuing) Pull
> the wire from the temp. sender at the back of the block and touch it to
> ground, look at temp gauge. If it goes to hot then you have a bad temp.
> sender. If not then, the regulator/gauge is bad. Replace the fuel/temp
> cluster.
>
> JimG
>
> <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:rkfxb.24028$up3.492@fe1.columbus.rr.com...
> > http://www.monsterslayer.com/jeep/Gauges.htm
> >
> > I do have a volt meter but I'm a complete idiot when it comes to using
it.
> I
> > can't seem to get the reading...or even close...even making heads or
tails
> > out of the readings from it. The fuel gauge does not work and I've all
but
> > given up on that so now I'm focusing on the temp gauge. I've tried
> measuring
> > the resistance and grounding out the pink wire but got no where. Does
the
> > jeep need to be running or can you have the key all the way forward to
> take
> > readings?
> > Thanks!
> >
> >
> >
> > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > news:CFexb.1132$Ec3.53@news01.roc.ny...
> > > Not necessarily... the 12V at the fuel gauge terminal I provides input
> to
> > > the regulator. Do you have a volt meter? Simply measure for the 12V
at
> > > fuel gauge I terminal. If it is there, then measure at temperature
> gauge
> > A
> > > terminal for 5V (should be same as fuel gauge terminal A). Does the
> fuel
> > > gauge work? You seem to be stuck on the that.
> > >
> > >
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/el...y/SpedoPic.jpg
> > >
> > > JimG
> > >
> > > <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > news:fxdxb.28431$uw5.28361@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> > > > So juice going to the fuel gauge could somehow not get to the temp
> gauge
> > > if
> > > > there is a malfunction in the fuel gauge correct?
> > > > Allen
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:ufdxb.1120$IN2.85@news01.roc.ny...
> > > > > You are correct there has to be 12V there for the regulator to
work.
> > > > >
> > > > > JimG
> > > > >
> > > > > <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:VTcxb.42381$kL2.28316@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
> > > > > > But isn't there only one hot wire going to the fuel gauge? And
> then
> > if
> > > > > that
> > > > > > wire somehow does not get juice, it doesn't jump over to the
temp
> > > > > gauge,..is
> > > > > > that a correct assumption??
> > > > > > thanks
> > > > > > Allen
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:bkcxb.1105$yY.539@news01.roc.ny...
> > > > > > > The jumper is to get the regulated 5V to the temperature
gauge.
> > The
> > > > > fuel
> > > > > > > gauge does not have to work for the temperature to work as
long
> as
> > > the
> > > > > > > regulator works.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > JimG
> > > > > > > 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> > > > > > > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > > > > > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> > > > > > > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> > > > > > > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > > > > > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:7xbxb.28236$uw5.23619@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> > > > > > > > I hate beating this dead horse but...am I to understand that
> the
> > > > > jumper
> > > > > > > > between the fuel and temp is to get the power over from the
> fuel
> > > to
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > temp
> > > > > > > > gauge? And if this is the case,...if the fuel gauge is bad,
> will
> > > it
> > > > > send
> > > > > > > > power to the temp gauge? In otherwords,..if the fuel gauge
> goes
> > > bad,
> > > > > > does
> > > > > > > > the temp gauge then also fail to read?
> > > > > > > > Allen
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 83 CJ7
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>