Y'all were right! YJ Shackles
11-19-2003, 04:32 PM
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Re: Y'all were right! YJ Shackles
In article <3FBBD8EA.8F0AAA47@sympatico.ca>,
Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> That sounds like a good way to go.
>
> Maybe <snip>.... ;-)
>
> Mike
Sorry, which way?
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Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> That sounds like a good way to go.
>
> Maybe <snip>.... ;-)
>
> Mike
Sorry, which way?
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11-19-2003, 04:32 PM
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Re: Y'all were right! YJ Shackles
In article <3FBBD8EA.8F0AAA47@sympatico.ca>,
Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> That sounds like a good way to go.
>
> Maybe <snip>.... ;-)
>
> Mike
Sorry, which way?
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Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> That sounds like a good way to go.
>
> Maybe <snip>.... ;-)
>
> Mike
Sorry, which way?
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11-19-2003, 04:32 PM
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Re: Y'all were right! YJ Shackles
In article <3FBBD8EA.8F0AAA47@sympatico.ca>,
Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> That sounds like a good way to go.
>
> Maybe <snip>.... ;-)
>
> Mike
Sorry, which way?
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Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> That sounds like a good way to go.
>
> Maybe <snip>.... ;-)
>
> Mike
Sorry, which way?
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11-20-2003, 10:15 AM
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Re: Y'all were right! YJ Shackles
LOL!
Sorry.....
I was thinking on your musings at the end of the post.
Dropping back to stock shackles and a tire that fits under the flares.
Getting the springs arched a bit works well too. I replaced my rear
springs with new stock ones and had them arched for 2.5" of lift.
I then had my old front ones arched the same.
The shop that did it took out the first leaf under the main one and
replaced that with a pre-arched 'keeper' spring. I used a truck spring
shop and the whole job cost less than $500.00 CDN
I bounce my CJ7 pretty hard and the old front springs have held the arch
great over 3 years, even with a Warn winch on the front.
Mike
Jeepers wrote:
>
> In article <3FBBD8EA.8F0AAA47@sympatico.ca>,
> Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> > That sounds like a good way to go.
> >
> > Maybe <snip>.... ;-)
> >
> > Mike
>
> Sorry, which way?
>
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Sorry.....
I was thinking on your musings at the end of the post.
Dropping back to stock shackles and a tire that fits under the flares.
Getting the springs arched a bit works well too. I replaced my rear
springs with new stock ones and had them arched for 2.5" of lift.
I then had my old front ones arched the same.
The shop that did it took out the first leaf under the main one and
replaced that with a pre-arched 'keeper' spring. I used a truck spring
shop and the whole job cost less than $500.00 CDN
I bounce my CJ7 pretty hard and the old front springs have held the arch
great over 3 years, even with a Warn winch on the front.
Mike
Jeepers wrote:
>
> In article <3FBBD8EA.8F0AAA47@sympatico.ca>,
> Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> > That sounds like a good way to go.
> >
> > Maybe <snip>.... ;-)
> >
> > Mike
>
> Sorry, which way?
>
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11-20-2003, 10:15 AM
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Re: Y'all were right! YJ Shackles
LOL!
Sorry.....
I was thinking on your musings at the end of the post.
Dropping back to stock shackles and a tire that fits under the flares.
Getting the springs arched a bit works well too. I replaced my rear
springs with new stock ones and had them arched for 2.5" of lift.
I then had my old front ones arched the same.
The shop that did it took out the first leaf under the main one and
replaced that with a pre-arched 'keeper' spring. I used a truck spring
shop and the whole job cost less than $500.00 CDN
I bounce my CJ7 pretty hard and the old front springs have held the arch
great over 3 years, even with a Warn winch on the front.
Mike
Jeepers wrote:
>
> In article <3FBBD8EA.8F0AAA47@sympatico.ca>,
> Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> > That sounds like a good way to go.
> >
> > Maybe <snip>.... ;-)
> >
> > Mike
>
> Sorry, which way?
>
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Sorry.....
I was thinking on your musings at the end of the post.
Dropping back to stock shackles and a tire that fits under the flares.
Getting the springs arched a bit works well too. I replaced my rear
springs with new stock ones and had them arched for 2.5" of lift.
I then had my old front ones arched the same.
The shop that did it took out the first leaf under the main one and
replaced that with a pre-arched 'keeper' spring. I used a truck spring
shop and the whole job cost less than $500.00 CDN
I bounce my CJ7 pretty hard and the old front springs have held the arch
great over 3 years, even with a Warn winch on the front.
Mike
Jeepers wrote:
>
> In article <3FBBD8EA.8F0AAA47@sympatico.ca>,
> Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> > That sounds like a good way to go.
> >
> > Maybe <snip>.... ;-)
> >
> > Mike
>
> Sorry, which way?
>
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11-20-2003, 10:15 AM
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Re: Y'all were right! YJ Shackles
LOL!
Sorry.....
I was thinking on your musings at the end of the post.
Dropping back to stock shackles and a tire that fits under the flares.
Getting the springs arched a bit works well too. I replaced my rear
springs with new stock ones and had them arched for 2.5" of lift.
I then had my old front ones arched the same.
The shop that did it took out the first leaf under the main one and
replaced that with a pre-arched 'keeper' spring. I used a truck spring
shop and the whole job cost less than $500.00 CDN
I bounce my CJ7 pretty hard and the old front springs have held the arch
great over 3 years, even with a Warn winch on the front.
Mike
Jeepers wrote:
>
> In article <3FBBD8EA.8F0AAA47@sympatico.ca>,
> Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> > That sounds like a good way to go.
> >
> > Maybe <snip>.... ;-)
> >
> > Mike
>
> Sorry, which way?
>
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Sorry.....
I was thinking on your musings at the end of the post.
Dropping back to stock shackles and a tire that fits under the flares.
Getting the springs arched a bit works well too. I replaced my rear
springs with new stock ones and had them arched for 2.5" of lift.
I then had my old front ones arched the same.
The shop that did it took out the first leaf under the main one and
replaced that with a pre-arched 'keeper' spring. I used a truck spring
shop and the whole job cost less than $500.00 CDN
I bounce my CJ7 pretty hard and the old front springs have held the arch
great over 3 years, even with a Warn winch on the front.
Mike
Jeepers wrote:
>
> In article <3FBBD8EA.8F0AAA47@sympatico.ca>,
> Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> > That sounds like a good way to go.
> >
> > Maybe <snip>.... ;-)
> >
> > Mike
>
> Sorry, which way?
>
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11-20-2003, 12:18 PM
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Re: Y'all were right! YJ Shackles
Sounds like she wants one with a nice but understated stance. I'd
suggest some stock wheels in 15x7 along with some 235R15
agressive all season tires.
You definately want to get those extended shackles off, it will
always be touchy to drive. YJ springs are always pretty limp and
flat. Rearching will get you another inch at the most from what
you have mow.
I have a set of 4 used stock allow wheels with 'Jeep' embossed on
one spoke. Came off my '87 YJ to be replaced by some AR wheels
and 10.50x15 MT. Too far to ship them to you but you should be
able to find a similar set for $100 or so.
Jeepers wrote:
> Took the wife's YJ BACK to the alignment shop (the one that told me all
> was within specs). Got it back on the machine, all the while during
> setup and calibration, the shop guys tried to tell me it wasn't their
> machine with the problem, yada-yada..
>
> Sure enough, the caster was 3.2 degrees. I told the owner that it was a
> good thing my wife didn't get killed, or I would own his shop now.
>
> So, a recap. Bought a 93 YJ with a shackle lift already on it. It drives
> kinda touchy. Came here and the consensus seemed to point at the shackle
> lift and crappy caster angles. The springs are looking kinda fatigued
> too.
>
> At this point my wife and I discussed her alternatives for her Jeep. She
> doesn't like the way the tires throw mud and crud all over the side of
> her "li'l runabout" because of how far the tires stick out. And the mud
> gets on the nerf bar and she gets it on her clothes getting in and out.
> But she wants to keep the nerf bars (don't ask).
>
> 1. we could throw $700 at it to have Four Wheel Parts install a Pro Comp
> suspension on it. And still have the wheels and tires sticking out past
> the flares and still have the 31"tires and the wrong gearing for them on
> the four banger.
>
> 2. have the shackles removed, swap in stock size wheels and tires and
> shackles and get the springs re-arched and get it back to stock condition
>
> 3. install shims and get wider flares and install helper leaves and keep
> the wheels and tires.
>
> I think she wants to get some OEM Jeep wheels and stock shackles and
> "put it back the way it was made". Which is fine with me, it'll never
> see serious offroading other than the 1/4 mile drive up our unpaved
> muddy driveway. This is also the cheap route - no $'s on flares or lift.
> We feel we can find some OEM take-off wheels on the cheap and trade
> someone for her AR rims. The tires are done and need replacing no matter
> what we do.
>
> Anyone in Texas got some OEM Jeep Wheels that'll fit the YJ?
>
>
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suggest some stock wheels in 15x7 along with some 235R15
agressive all season tires.
You definately want to get those extended shackles off, it will
always be touchy to drive. YJ springs are always pretty limp and
flat. Rearching will get you another inch at the most from what
you have mow.
I have a set of 4 used stock allow wheels with 'Jeep' embossed on
one spoke. Came off my '87 YJ to be replaced by some AR wheels
and 10.50x15 MT. Too far to ship them to you but you should be
able to find a similar set for $100 or so.
Jeepers wrote:
> Took the wife's YJ BACK to the alignment shop (the one that told me all
> was within specs). Got it back on the machine, all the while during
> setup and calibration, the shop guys tried to tell me it wasn't their
> machine with the problem, yada-yada..
>
> Sure enough, the caster was 3.2 degrees. I told the owner that it was a
> good thing my wife didn't get killed, or I would own his shop now.
>
> So, a recap. Bought a 93 YJ with a shackle lift already on it. It drives
> kinda touchy. Came here and the consensus seemed to point at the shackle
> lift and crappy caster angles. The springs are looking kinda fatigued
> too.
>
> At this point my wife and I discussed her alternatives for her Jeep. She
> doesn't like the way the tires throw mud and crud all over the side of
> her "li'l runabout" because of how far the tires stick out. And the mud
> gets on the nerf bar and she gets it on her clothes getting in and out.
> But she wants to keep the nerf bars (don't ask).
>
> 1. we could throw $700 at it to have Four Wheel Parts install a Pro Comp
> suspension on it. And still have the wheels and tires sticking out past
> the flares and still have the 31"tires and the wrong gearing for them on
> the four banger.
>
> 2. have the shackles removed, swap in stock size wheels and tires and
> shackles and get the springs re-arched and get it back to stock condition
>
> 3. install shims and get wider flares and install helper leaves and keep
> the wheels and tires.
>
> I think she wants to get some OEM Jeep wheels and stock shackles and
> "put it back the way it was made". Which is fine with me, it'll never
> see serious offroading other than the 1/4 mile drive up our unpaved
> muddy driveway. This is also the cheap route - no $'s on flares or lift.
> We feel we can find some OEM take-off wheels on the cheap and trade
> someone for her AR rims. The tires are done and need replacing no matter
> what we do.
>
> Anyone in Texas got some OEM Jeep Wheels that'll fit the YJ?
>
>
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11-20-2003, 12:18 PM
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Re: Y'all were right! YJ Shackles
Sounds like she wants one with a nice but understated stance. I'd
suggest some stock wheels in 15x7 along with some 235R15
agressive all season tires.
You definately want to get those extended shackles off, it will
always be touchy to drive. YJ springs are always pretty limp and
flat. Rearching will get you another inch at the most from what
you have mow.
I have a set of 4 used stock allow wheels with 'Jeep' embossed on
one spoke. Came off my '87 YJ to be replaced by some AR wheels
and 10.50x15 MT. Too far to ship them to you but you should be
able to find a similar set for $100 or so.
Jeepers wrote:
> Took the wife's YJ BACK to the alignment shop (the one that told me all
> was within specs). Got it back on the machine, all the while during
> setup and calibration, the shop guys tried to tell me it wasn't their
> machine with the problem, yada-yada..
>
> Sure enough, the caster was 3.2 degrees. I told the owner that it was a
> good thing my wife didn't get killed, or I would own his shop now.
>
> So, a recap. Bought a 93 YJ with a shackle lift already on it. It drives
> kinda touchy. Came here and the consensus seemed to point at the shackle
> lift and crappy caster angles. The springs are looking kinda fatigued
> too.
>
> At this point my wife and I discussed her alternatives for her Jeep. She
> doesn't like the way the tires throw mud and crud all over the side of
> her "li'l runabout" because of how far the tires stick out. And the mud
> gets on the nerf bar and she gets it on her clothes getting in and out.
> But she wants to keep the nerf bars (don't ask).
>
> 1. we could throw $700 at it to have Four Wheel Parts install a Pro Comp
> suspension on it. And still have the wheels and tires sticking out past
> the flares and still have the 31"tires and the wrong gearing for them on
> the four banger.
>
> 2. have the shackles removed, swap in stock size wheels and tires and
> shackles and get the springs re-arched and get it back to stock condition
>
> 3. install shims and get wider flares and install helper leaves and keep
> the wheels and tires.
>
> I think she wants to get some OEM Jeep wheels and stock shackles and
> "put it back the way it was made". Which is fine with me, it'll never
> see serious offroading other than the 1/4 mile drive up our unpaved
> muddy driveway. This is also the cheap route - no $'s on flares or lift.
> We feel we can find some OEM take-off wheels on the cheap and trade
> someone for her AR rims. The tires are done and need replacing no matter
> what we do.
>
> Anyone in Texas got some OEM Jeep Wheels that'll fit the YJ?
>
>
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suggest some stock wheels in 15x7 along with some 235R15
agressive all season tires.
You definately want to get those extended shackles off, it will
always be touchy to drive. YJ springs are always pretty limp and
flat. Rearching will get you another inch at the most from what
you have mow.
I have a set of 4 used stock allow wheels with 'Jeep' embossed on
one spoke. Came off my '87 YJ to be replaced by some AR wheels
and 10.50x15 MT. Too far to ship them to you but you should be
able to find a similar set for $100 or so.
Jeepers wrote:
> Took the wife's YJ BACK to the alignment shop (the one that told me all
> was within specs). Got it back on the machine, all the while during
> setup and calibration, the shop guys tried to tell me it wasn't their
> machine with the problem, yada-yada..
>
> Sure enough, the caster was 3.2 degrees. I told the owner that it was a
> good thing my wife didn't get killed, or I would own his shop now.
>
> So, a recap. Bought a 93 YJ with a shackle lift already on it. It drives
> kinda touchy. Came here and the consensus seemed to point at the shackle
> lift and crappy caster angles. The springs are looking kinda fatigued
> too.
>
> At this point my wife and I discussed her alternatives for her Jeep. She
> doesn't like the way the tires throw mud and crud all over the side of
> her "li'l runabout" because of how far the tires stick out. And the mud
> gets on the nerf bar and she gets it on her clothes getting in and out.
> But she wants to keep the nerf bars (don't ask).
>
> 1. we could throw $700 at it to have Four Wheel Parts install a Pro Comp
> suspension on it. And still have the wheels and tires sticking out past
> the flares and still have the 31"tires and the wrong gearing for them on
> the four banger.
>
> 2. have the shackles removed, swap in stock size wheels and tires and
> shackles and get the springs re-arched and get it back to stock condition
>
> 3. install shims and get wider flares and install helper leaves and keep
> the wheels and tires.
>
> I think she wants to get some OEM Jeep wheels and stock shackles and
> "put it back the way it was made". Which is fine with me, it'll never
> see serious offroading other than the 1/4 mile drive up our unpaved
> muddy driveway. This is also the cheap route - no $'s on flares or lift.
> We feel we can find some OEM take-off wheels on the cheap and trade
> someone for her AR rims. The tires are done and need replacing no matter
> what we do.
>
> Anyone in Texas got some OEM Jeep Wheels that'll fit the YJ?
>
>
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11-20-2003, 12:18 PM
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Re: Y'all were right! YJ Shackles
Sounds like she wants one with a nice but understated stance. I'd
suggest some stock wheels in 15x7 along with some 235R15
agressive all season tires.
You definately want to get those extended shackles off, it will
always be touchy to drive. YJ springs are always pretty limp and
flat. Rearching will get you another inch at the most from what
you have mow.
I have a set of 4 used stock allow wheels with 'Jeep' embossed on
one spoke. Came off my '87 YJ to be replaced by some AR wheels
and 10.50x15 MT. Too far to ship them to you but you should be
able to find a similar set for $100 or so.
Jeepers wrote:
> Took the wife's YJ BACK to the alignment shop (the one that told me all
> was within specs). Got it back on the machine, all the while during
> setup and calibration, the shop guys tried to tell me it wasn't their
> machine with the problem, yada-yada..
>
> Sure enough, the caster was 3.2 degrees. I told the owner that it was a
> good thing my wife didn't get killed, or I would own his shop now.
>
> So, a recap. Bought a 93 YJ with a shackle lift already on it. It drives
> kinda touchy. Came here and the consensus seemed to point at the shackle
> lift and crappy caster angles. The springs are looking kinda fatigued
> too.
>
> At this point my wife and I discussed her alternatives for her Jeep. She
> doesn't like the way the tires throw mud and crud all over the side of
> her "li'l runabout" because of how far the tires stick out. And the mud
> gets on the nerf bar and she gets it on her clothes getting in and out.
> But she wants to keep the nerf bars (don't ask).
>
> 1. we could throw $700 at it to have Four Wheel Parts install a Pro Comp
> suspension on it. And still have the wheels and tires sticking out past
> the flares and still have the 31"tires and the wrong gearing for them on
> the four banger.
>
> 2. have the shackles removed, swap in stock size wheels and tires and
> shackles and get the springs re-arched and get it back to stock condition
>
> 3. install shims and get wider flares and install helper leaves and keep
> the wheels and tires.
>
> I think she wants to get some OEM Jeep wheels and stock shackles and
> "put it back the way it was made". Which is fine with me, it'll never
> see serious offroading other than the 1/4 mile drive up our unpaved
> muddy driveway. This is also the cheap route - no $'s on flares or lift.
> We feel we can find some OEM take-off wheels on the cheap and trade
> someone for her AR rims. The tires are done and need replacing no matter
> what we do.
>
> Anyone in Texas got some OEM Jeep Wheels that'll fit the YJ?
>
>
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suggest some stock wheels in 15x7 along with some 235R15
agressive all season tires.
You definately want to get those extended shackles off, it will
always be touchy to drive. YJ springs are always pretty limp and
flat. Rearching will get you another inch at the most from what
you have mow.
I have a set of 4 used stock allow wheels with 'Jeep' embossed on
one spoke. Came off my '87 YJ to be replaced by some AR wheels
and 10.50x15 MT. Too far to ship them to you but you should be
able to find a similar set for $100 or so.
Jeepers wrote:
> Took the wife's YJ BACK to the alignment shop (the one that told me all
> was within specs). Got it back on the machine, all the while during
> setup and calibration, the shop guys tried to tell me it wasn't their
> machine with the problem, yada-yada..
>
> Sure enough, the caster was 3.2 degrees. I told the owner that it was a
> good thing my wife didn't get killed, or I would own his shop now.
>
> So, a recap. Bought a 93 YJ with a shackle lift already on it. It drives
> kinda touchy. Came here and the consensus seemed to point at the shackle
> lift and crappy caster angles. The springs are looking kinda fatigued
> too.
>
> At this point my wife and I discussed her alternatives for her Jeep. She
> doesn't like the way the tires throw mud and crud all over the side of
> her "li'l runabout" because of how far the tires stick out. And the mud
> gets on the nerf bar and she gets it on her clothes getting in and out.
> But she wants to keep the nerf bars (don't ask).
>
> 1. we could throw $700 at it to have Four Wheel Parts install a Pro Comp
> suspension on it. And still have the wheels and tires sticking out past
> the flares and still have the 31"tires and the wrong gearing for them on
> the four banger.
>
> 2. have the shackles removed, swap in stock size wheels and tires and
> shackles and get the springs re-arched and get it back to stock condition
>
> 3. install shims and get wider flares and install helper leaves and keep
> the wheels and tires.
>
> I think she wants to get some OEM Jeep wheels and stock shackles and
> "put it back the way it was made". Which is fine with me, it'll never
> see serious offroading other than the 1/4 mile drive up our unpaved
> muddy driveway. This is also the cheap route - no $'s on flares or lift.
> We feel we can find some OEM take-off wheels on the cheap and trade
> someone for her AR rims. The tires are done and need replacing no matter
> what we do.
>
> Anyone in Texas got some OEM Jeep Wheels that'll fit the YJ?
>
>
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