NickT

Hi guys,
I picked up a used 2000 Cherokee. It had some noise coming from the rear
brakes when coming to a full stop. I took it apart for a look/see. I think
one side has something not assembled quite right. Can't tell which is right
though. I have the factory service manual, but its not clear on this detail:
In the area of the anchor pin at the top of the assembly, what is the order
of assembly? On one side I have shoes, then retainer piece, then adjuster
cable, then springs. This setup allows the adjuster cable to fit solidly on
the shoulder of the anchor pin. The retainer doesn't fit so good and does
not sit well onto the shoulder of the anchor pin. This setup keeps the self
adjuster in good solid contact with the star wheel down below. I'm not sure
if its supposed to be that way though.
The other wheel has a different order: shoes, retainer, then adjuster cable,
then springs. This setup lets the retainer fit more solidly on the anchor
pin and against the shoes. The adjuster cable however has no room left on
the shoulder of the anchor pin and thus fits little loser and lets the cable
have a little slack. This causes the self adjuster tang to not touch the
star wheel. Which way is correct? I have searched the archives and this has
been discussed before, but no solid answers. Looks like its been done both
ways. Can someone tell me the proper order? Also can someone briefly explain
the adjuster mechanism? Specifically, should the normal rest position of the
adjuster arm be contacting the star wheel and the cable taught or should it
be slightly away from the star wheel with a bit of slack in the cable?
Thanks for any help. -Nick

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

Hi Nick,
I think you'll be able to see via these pictures:
http://www.4x4wire.com/jeep/tech/axl...2/DSCN0913.jpg The
adjustment lever rests on the star, something Daimler's artist and proof
readers haven't figured out for their 2001 XJ factory Service Manual:
http://www.----------.com/brakeseq.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

NickT wrote:
>
> Hi guys,
> I picked up a used 2000 Cherokee. It had some noise coming from the rear
> brakes when coming to a full stop. I took it apart for a look/see. I think
> one side has something not assembled quite right. Can't tell which is right
> though. I have the factory service manual, but its not clear on this detail:
> In the area of the anchor pin at the top of the assembly, what is the order
> of assembly? On one side I have shoes, then retainer piece, then adjuster
> cable, then springs. This setup allows the adjuster cable to fit solidly on
> the shoulder of the anchor pin. The retainer doesn't fit so good and does
> not sit well onto the shoulder of the anchor pin. This setup keeps the self
> adjuster in good solid contact with the star wheel down below. I'm not sure
> if its supposed to be that way though.
> The other wheel has a different order: shoes, retainer, then adjuster cable,
> then springs. This setup lets the retainer fit more solidly on the anchor
> pin and against the shoes. The adjuster cable however has no room left on
> the shoulder of the anchor pin and thus fits little loser and lets the cable
> have a little slack. This causes the self adjuster tang to not touch the
> star wheel. Which way is correct? I have searched the archives and this has
> been discussed before, but no solid answers. Looks like its been done both
> ways. Can someone tell me the proper order? Also can someone briefly explain
> the adjuster mechanism? Specifically, should the normal rest position of the
> adjuster arm be contacting the star wheel and the cable taught or should it
> be slightly away from the star wheel with a bit of slack in the cable?
> Thanks for any help. -Nick

Mike Romain

The adjuster should be engaged with the star wheel. If it is not
touching, it won't adjust when you hit the brakes in reverse.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

NickT wrote:
>
> Hi guys,
> I picked up a used 2000 Cherokee. It had some noise coming from the rear
> brakes when coming to a full stop. I took it apart for a look/see. I think
> one side has something not assembled quite right. Can't tell which is right
> though. I have the factory service manual, but its not clear on this detail:
> In the area of the anchor pin at the top of the assembly, what is the order
> of assembly? On one side I have shoes, then retainer piece, then adjuster
> cable, then springs. This setup allows the adjuster cable to fit solidly on
> the shoulder of the anchor pin. The retainer doesn't fit so good and does
> not sit well onto the shoulder of the anchor pin. This setup keeps the self
> adjuster in good solid contact with the star wheel down below. I'm not sure
> if its supposed to be that way though.
> The other wheel has a different order: shoes, retainer, then adjuster cable,
> then springs. This setup lets the retainer fit more solidly on the anchor
> pin and against the shoes. The adjuster cable however has no room left on
> the shoulder of the anchor pin and thus fits little loser and lets the cable
> have a little slack. This causes the self adjuster tang to not touch the
> star wheel. Which way is correct? I have searched the archives and this has
> been discussed before, but no solid answers. Looks like its been done both
> ways. Can someone tell me the proper order? Also can someone briefly explain
> the adjuster mechanism? Specifically, should the normal rest position of the
> adjuster arm be contacting the star wheel and the cable taught or should it
> be slightly away from the star wheel with a bit of slack in the cable?
> Thanks for any help. -Nick

NickT

Bill, thanks for the links. I'm still confused, if you or anyone can give me
more advice. My setup looks like the top half of the photograph, however,
down by the star wheel is different. My adjusting arm and counter spring are
BELOW the star wheel. It looks more like the not so complete picture from
the service manual. Maybe mine works differently? In other words, the rest
position keeps the arm slightly away from the star due to the placement of
the counter spring. When the little cable becomes taught, it brings the arm
up and gives the star an upward spin, tightening the brakes. Could this be?
I've never been intimidated by rear brakes, no matter how mixed up the parts
were, it always seemed like they only went back one way. I never had this
dilemma. The answer lies in taking apart my TJ, but I can't schedule my wife
to have it home long enough,lol. Thanks for any help. -Nick

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3F4062E4.E0977339@***.net...
> Hi Nick,
> I think you'll be able to see via these pictures:
> http://www.4x4wire.com/jeep/tech/axl...2/DSCN0913.jpg The
> adjustment lever rests on the star, something Daimler's artist and proof
> readers haven't figured out for their 2001 XJ factory Service Manual:
> http://www.----------.com/brakeseq.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> NickT wrote:
> >
> > Hi guys,
> > I picked up a used 2000 Cherokee. It had some noise coming from the rear
> > brakes when coming to a full stop. I took it apart for a look/see. I
think
> > one side has something not assembled quite right. Can't tell which is
right
> > though. I have the factory service manual, but its not clear on this
detail:
> > In the area of the anchor pin at the top of the assembly, what is the
order
> > of assembly? On one side I have shoes, then retainer piece, then
adjuster
> > cable, then springs. This setup allows the adjuster cable to fit solidly
on
> > the shoulder of the anchor pin. The retainer doesn't fit so good and
does
> > not sit well onto the shoulder of the anchor pin. This setup keeps the
self
> > adjuster in good solid contact with the star wheel down below. I'm not
sure
> > if its supposed to be that way though.
> > The other wheel has a different order: shoes, retainer, then adjuster
cable,
> > then springs. This setup lets the retainer fit more solidly on the
anchor
> > pin and against the shoes. The adjuster cable however has no room left
on
> > the shoulder of the anchor pin and thus fits little loser and lets the
cable
> > have a little slack. This causes the self adjuster tang to not touch the
> > star wheel. Which way is correct? I have searched the archives and this
has
> > been discussed before, but no solid answers. Looks like its been done
both
> > ways. Can someone tell me the proper order? Also can someone briefly
explain
> > the adjuster mechanism? Specifically, should the normal rest position of
the
> > adjuster arm be contacting the star wheel and the cable taught or should
it
> > be slightly away from the star wheel with a bit of slack in the cable?
> > Thanks for any help. -Nick

NickT

Thanks Mike and Bill,
I think I got it. I went and swapped cars and took the tj apart to compare.
The adjuster cable should go on top of the retainer as the photo shows. It
doesn't need to be seated on the same shoulder as the retainer piece. The
cable is taught simply hooked on the same location as the springs. I took it
apart to measure the cable. Put it back together, and then had a loose cable
again. Ahha, now I know its me. Took a coffee and donut break, got a stool
and stared at it for awhile. Re-assembled and payed more attention to the
cable guide. I found that if its hastily installed, it doesn't sit flat
against the shoe frame and causes slack in the adjuster cable. It would
probably fall into place after some driving, but made me crazy. Thanks for
your help. -Nick

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3F40CF1B.C215F469@sympatico.ca...
> I would be confused too seeing as the adjuster in the photo is on wrong!
>
> The arm has to be below the star wheel so a pull on the cable moves the
> wheel.
>
> The cables don't 'push' the lever like that photo would have one
> think...
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> NickT wrote:
> >
> > Bill, thanks for the links. I'm still confused, if you or anyone can
give me
> > more advice. My setup looks like the top half of the photograph,
however,
> > down by the star wheel is different. My adjusting arm and counter spring
are
> > BELOW the star wheel. It looks more like the not so complete picture
from
> > the service manual. Maybe mine works differently? In other words, the
rest
> > position keeps the arm slightly away from the star due to the placement
of
> > the counter spring. When the little cable becomes taught, it brings the
arm
> > up and gives the star an upward spin, tightening the brakes. Could this
be?
> > I've never been intimidated by rear brakes, no matter how mixed up the
parts
> > were, it always seemed like they only went back one way. I never had
this
> > dilemma. The answer lies in taking apart my TJ, but I can't schedule my
wife
> > to have it home long enough,lol. Thanks for any help. -Nick
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:3F4062E4.E0977339@***.net...
> > > Hi Nick,
> > > I think you'll be able to see via these pictures:
> > > http://www.4x4wire.com/jeep/tech/axl...2/DSCN0913.jpg The
> > > adjustment lever rests on the star, something Daimler's artist and
proof
> > > readers haven't figured out for their 2001 XJ factory Service Manual:
> > > http://www.----------.com/brakeseq.jpg
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:--------------------
> > >
> > > NickT wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi guys,
> > > > I picked up a used 2000 Cherokee. It had some noise coming from the
rear
> > > > brakes when coming to a full stop. I took it apart for a look/see. I
> > think
> > > > one side has something not assembled quite right. Can't tell which
is
> > right
> > > > though. I have the factory service manual, but its not clear on this
> > detail:
> > > > In the area of the anchor pin at the top of the assembly, what is
the
> > order
> > > > of assembly? On one side I have shoes, then retainer piece, then
> > adjuster
> > > > cable, then springs. This setup allows the adjuster cable to fit
solidly
> > on
> > > > the shoulder of the anchor pin. The retainer doesn't fit so good and
> > does
> > > > not sit well onto the shoulder of the anchor pin. This setup keeps
the
> > self
> > > > adjuster in good solid contact with the star wheel down below. I'm
not
> > sure
> > > > if its supposed to be that way though.
> > > > The other wheel has a different order: shoes, retainer, then
adjuster
> > cable,
> > > > then springs. This setup lets the retainer fit more solidly on the
> > anchor
> > > > pin and against the shoes. The adjuster cable however has no room
left
> > on
> > > > the shoulder of the anchor pin and thus fits little loser and lets
the
> > cable
> > > > have a little slack. This causes the self adjuster tang to not touch
the
> > > > star wheel. Which way is correct? I have searched the archives and
this
> > has
> > > > been discussed before, but no solid answers. Looks like its been
done
> > both
> > > > ways. Can someone tell me the proper order? Also can someone briefly
> > explain
> > > > the adjuster mechanism? Specifically, should the normal rest
position of
> > the
> > > > adjuster arm be contacting the star wheel and the cable taught or
should
> > it
> > > > be slightly away from the star wheel with a bit of slack in the
cable?
> > > > Thanks for any help. -Nick

Mike Romain

Glad you got it.

There is a 50/50 chance the cable falls in place or jumps off when you
start driving.

The one in the photo looks wrong somehow, I had a second look at it and
that arm is just not in the right place, I think that would be a cable
jumper.

The arm needs to be at the bottom to hold the cable tight. The cable
then pulls the arm up when stopping in reverse and the spring pulls it
back down to click the star wheel a notch until the slack is out of the
brake shoes, then it just skips over the teeth.

I have seen a 'whole' lot that had fallen off after the last brake job
when I have done shoes.

My 'Boss' has a Ford van and I did his brakes a bit ago and one rear
shoe set had never touched the drum since they were installed at the
dealer. Yup, that cable was just hanging loose. (anyone need a drivers
side set of heavy shoes for a Ford 150 van?)

Mike

NickT wrote:
>
> Thanks Mike and Bill,
> I think I got it. I went and swapped cars and took the tj apart to compare.
> The adjuster cable should go on top of the retainer as the photo shows. It
> doesn't need to be seated on the same shoulder as the retainer piece. The
> cable is taught simply hooked on the same location as the springs. I took it
> apart to measure the cable. Put it back together, and then had a loose cable
> again. Ahha, now I know its me. Took a coffee and donut break, got a stool
> and stared at it for awhile. Re-assembled and payed more attention to the
> cable guide. I found that if its hastily installed, it doesn't sit flat
> against the shoe frame and causes slack in the adjuster cable. It would
> probably fall into place after some driving, but made me crazy. Thanks for
> your help. -Nick
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3F40CF1B.C215F469@sympatico.ca...
> > I would be confused too seeing as the adjuster in the photo is on wrong!
> >
> > The arm has to be below the star wheel so a pull on the cable moves the
> > wheel.
> >
> > The cables don't 'push' the lever like that photo would have one
> > think...
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > NickT wrote:
> > >
> > > Bill, thanks for the links. I'm still confused, if you or anyone can
> give me
> > > more advice. My setup looks like the top half of the photograph,
> however,
> > > down by the star wheel is different. My adjusting arm and counter spring
> are
> > > BELOW the star wheel. It looks more like the not so complete picture
> from
> > > the service manual. Maybe mine works differently? In other words, the
> rest
> > > position keeps the arm slightly away from the star due to the placement
> of
> > > the counter spring. When the little cable becomes taught, it brings the
> arm
> > > up and gives the star an upward spin, tightening the brakes. Could this
> be?
> > > I've never been intimidated by rear brakes, no matter how mixed up the
> parts
> > > were, it always seemed like they only went back one way. I never had
> this
> > > dilemma. The answer lies in taking apart my TJ, but I can't schedule my
> wife
> > > to have it home long enough,lol. Thanks for any help. -Nick
> > >
> > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > > news:3F4062E4.E0977339@***.net...
> > > > Hi Nick,
> > > > I think you'll be able to see via these pictures:
> > > > http://www.4x4wire.com/jeep/tech/axl...2/DSCN0913.jpg The
> > > > adjustment lever rests on the star, something Daimler's artist and
> proof
> > > > readers haven't figured out for their 2001 XJ factory Service Manual:
> > > > http://www.----------.com/brakeseq.jpg
> > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > > mailto:--------------------
> > > >
> > > > NickT wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi guys,
> > > > > I picked up a used 2000 Cherokee. It had some noise coming from the
> rear
> > > > > brakes when coming to a full stop. I took it apart for a look/see. I
> > > think
> > > > > one side has something not assembled quite right. Can't tell which
> is
> > > right
> > > > > though. I have the factory service manual, but its not clear on this
> > > detail:
> > > > > In the area of the anchor pin at the top of the assembly, what is
> the
> > > order
> > > > > of assembly? On one side I have shoes, then retainer piece, then
> > > adjuster
> > > > > cable, then springs. This setup allows the adjuster cable to fit
> solidly
> > > on
> > > > > the shoulder of the anchor pin. The retainer doesn't fit so good and
> > > does
> > > > > not sit well onto the shoulder of the anchor pin. This setup keeps
> the
> > > self
> > > > > adjuster in good solid contact with the star wheel down below. I'm
> not
> > > sure
> > > > > if its supposed to be that way though.
> > > > > The other wheel has a different order: shoes, retainer, then
> adjuster
> > > cable,
> > > > > then springs. This setup lets the retainer fit more solidly on the
> > > anchor
> > > > > pin and against the shoes. The adjuster cable however has no room
> left
> > > on
> > > > > the shoulder of the anchor pin and thus fits little loser and lets
> the
> > > cable
> > > > > have a little slack. This causes the self adjuster tang to not touch
> the
> > > > > star wheel. Which way is correct? I have searched the archives and
> this
> > > has
> > > > > been discussed before, but no solid answers. Looks like its been
> done
> > > both
> > > > > ways. Can someone tell me the proper order? Also can someone briefly
> > > explain
> > > > > the adjuster mechanism? Specifically, should the normal rest
> position of
> > > the
> > > > > adjuster arm be contacting the star wheel and the cable taught or
> should
> > > it
> > > > > be slightly away from the star wheel with a bit of slack in the
> cable?
> > > > > Thanks for any help. -Nick

Mike Romain

It's hung up on top of the star wheel or hanging free Bill. If you
drive it like that the cable can fall off before it maybe vibrates down
into place. It might never move or ever adjust.

The spring is supposed to hold the tab on the adjuster bar at the
bottom, not over cocked like it would almost move to when adjusting.
When you hit the brakes in reverse, the cable gets pulled and ***** the
bar up a notch that the spring pulls down.

You shouldn't see star wheel teeth below the bar. Or only a couple
maybe.

The photo shows it past an adjustment ---- on the lever, if it wasn't
over cocked, the spring would have dropped it in place.

Or the cable is hooked on the wrong place up top not letting it, the
lever come down.

Or it just isn't set square enough to be safe for assembly before
manually doing the star wheel to get some spring tension. Bump it the
wrong way when wiggling the drum over the shoes and the cable is off the
track.

It needs to be pushed all the way down to keep the cable tight enough to
put together.

I know Way too many people that put the drums on tight with the star
wheel setting and only do the reverse brake hit to set them up that I
sure wouldn't say that was a 'safe' position for assembly no matter what
reason it is cocked up like that for.

Mike

"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> It looks to be in the correct position to me:
> http://www.4x4wire.com/jeep/tech/axl...2/DSCN0913.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > I would be confused too seeing as the adjuster in the photo is on wrong!
> >
> > The arm has to be below the star wheel so a pull on the cable moves the
> > wheel.
> >
> > The cables don't 'push' the lever like that photo would have one
> > think...
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

NickT

> It looks to be in the correct position to me:
I think its just a different set-up. My adjuster is under the star and has
hairpin type counterspring rather than the coil spring in
the photo. My cable connects to the adjuster through a coil spring. I think
the adjuster pictured would have to be threaded oposite
as mine as well. To back mine off, I have to spin my wheel 'up' as viewed
though the back access hole, this one looks like you'd
have to spin it down from the back hole. Thanks for the info. -Nick

whoops.... hit the wrong key, I think I accidently sent this directly to
Bill's email.

> It looks to be in the correct position to me:
> http://www.4x4wire.com/jeep/tech/axl...2/DSCN0913.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

Hi Mike,
We agree to disagree. I see it in it's normal position, not cocked
ready to wind it tighter:
http://www.4x4wire.com/jeep/tech/axl...2/DSCN0915.jpg and:
http://www.binderbulletin.org/images...b/wff/wff4.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Mike Romain wrote:
>
> It's hung up on top of the star wheel or hanging free Bill. If you
> drive it like that the cable can fall off before it maybe vibrates down
> into place. It might never move or ever adjust.
>
> The spring is supposed to hold the tab on the adjuster bar at the
> bottom, not over cocked like it would almost move to when adjusting.
> When you hit the brakes in reverse, the cable gets pulled and ***** the
> bar up a notch that the spring pulls down.
>
> You shouldn't see star wheel teeth below the bar. Or only a couple
> maybe.
>
> The photo shows it past an adjustment ---- on the lever, if it wasn't
> over cocked, the spring would have dropped it in place.
>
> Or the cable is hooked on the wrong place up top not letting it, the
> lever come down.
>
> Or it just isn't set square enough to be safe for assembly before
> manually doing the star wheel to get some spring tension. Bump it the
> wrong way when wiggling the drum over the shoes and the cable is off the
> track.
>
> It needs to be pushed all the way down to keep the cable tight enough to
> put together.
>
> I know Way too many people that put the drums on tight with the star
> wheel setting and only do the reverse brake hit to set them up that I
> sure wouldn't say that was a 'safe' position for assembly no matter what
> reason it is cocked up like that for.
>
> Mike

bllsht

In message <3F40CF1B.C215F469@sympatico.ca>, "Mike Romain" wrote:

>I would be confused too seeing as the adjuster in the photo is on wrong!
>
>The arm has to be below the star wheel so a pull on the cable moves the
>wheel.
>
>The cables don't 'push' the lever like that photo would have one
>think...

Different types. Some push and some pull. That one pushes and looks right.


>
>Mike
>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
>NickT wrote:
>>
>> Bill, thanks for the links. I'm still confused, if you or anyone can give me
>> more advice. My setup looks like the top half of the photograph, however,
>> down by the star wheel is different. My adjusting arm and counter spring are
>> BELOW the star wheel. It looks more like the not so complete picture from
>> the service manual. Maybe mine works differently? In other words, the rest
>> position keeps the arm slightly away from the star due to the placement of
>> the counter spring. When the little cable becomes taught, it brings the arm
>> up and gives the star an upward spin, tightening the brakes. Could this be?
>> I've never been intimidated by rear brakes, no matter how mixed up the parts
>> were, it always seemed like they only went back one way. I never had this
>> dilemma. The answer lies in taking apart my TJ, but I can't schedule my wife
>> to have it home long enough,lol. Thanks for any help. -Nick
>>
>> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:3F4062E4.E0977339@***.net...
>> > Hi Nick,
>> > I think you'll be able to see via these pictures:
>> > http://www.4x4wire.com/jeep/tech/axl...2/DSCN0913.jpg The
>> > adjustment lever rests on the star, something Daimler's artist and proof
>> > readers haven't figured out for their 2001 XJ factory Service Manual:
>> > http://www.----------.com/brakeseq.jpg
>> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> > mailto:--------------------
>> >
>> > NickT wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Hi guys,
>> > > I picked up a used 2000 Cherokee. It had some noise coming from the rear
>> > > brakes when coming to a full stop. I took it apart for a look/see. I
>> think
>> > > one side has something not assembled quite right. Can't tell which is
>> right
>> > > though. I have the factory service manual, but its not clear on this
>> detail:
>> > > In the area of the anchor pin at the top of the assembly, what is the
>> order
>> > > of assembly? On one side I have shoes, then retainer piece, then
>> adjuster
>> > > cable, then springs. This setup allows the adjuster cable to fit solidly
>> on
>> > > the shoulder of the anchor pin. The retainer doesn't fit so good and
>> does
>> > > not sit well onto the shoulder of the anchor pin. This setup keeps the
>> self
>> > > adjuster in good solid contact with the star wheel down below. I'm not
>> sure
>> > > if its supposed to be that way though.
>> > > The other wheel has a different order: shoes, retainer, then adjuster
>> cable,
>> > > then springs. This setup lets the retainer fit more solidly on the
>> anchor
>> > > pin and against the shoes. The adjuster cable however has no room left
>> on
>> > > the shoulder of the anchor pin and thus fits little loser and lets the
>> cable
>> > > have a little slack. This causes the self adjuster tang to not touch the
>> > > star wheel. Which way is correct? I have searched the archives and this
>> has
>> > > been discussed before, but no solid answers. Looks like its been done
>> both
>> > > ways. Can someone tell me the proper order? Also can someone briefly
>> explain
>> > > the adjuster mechanism? Specifically, should the normal rest position of
>> the
>> > > adjuster arm be contacting the star wheel and the cable taught or should
>> it
>> > > be slightly away from the star wheel with a bit of slack in the cable?
>> > > Thanks for any help. -Nick