XJ eating fuel pumps
11-05-2003, 05:10 PM
#91
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Re: XJ eating fuel pumps
I can tell you it's so tempting to use the the internal pump on our
Hot Rod applications, because there's a cazillion of the in the bone
yards, but it just won't work. Their heat must radiate down the metal
pickup tube.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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Will Honea wrote:
>
> The pump gets the largest part of it's cooling from the flow rather
> than from the immersion. Look where your pump sits and figure just
> how much gas you need to keep it submerged - at least half a tank -
> and mine sites at least 2 inches off the bottom of the tank just
> because of the inlet nozzle and sock. One of the replacement pumps I
> got for a GM actually had a test procedure in the instructions and the
> restrictions were that it be used to pump gasoline only and that it
> was never to be operated with no flow/dry.
Hot Rod applications, because there's a cazillion of the in the bone
yards, but it just won't work. Their heat must radiate down the metal
pickup tube.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Will Honea wrote:
>
> The pump gets the largest part of it's cooling from the flow rather
> than from the immersion. Look where your pump sits and figure just
> how much gas you need to keep it submerged - at least half a tank -
> and mine sites at least 2 inches off the bottom of the tank just
> because of the inlet nozzle and sock. One of the replacement pumps I
> got for a GM actually had a test procedure in the instructions and the
> restrictions were that it be used to pump gasoline only and that it
> was never to be operated with no flow/dry.
11-05-2003, 08:34 PM
#92
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Re: Off Topic, XJ eating fuel pumps
In article <3FA86FAD.9B2A3A2C@***.net>, L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) ------
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> Like Eugene I can disappear,
Promises promises. :-)
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www.wolverine4wd.org
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III <----------@***.net> writes:
> Like Eugene I can disappear,
Promises promises. :-)
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
11-05-2003, 08:34 PM
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Re: Off Topic, XJ eating fuel pumps
In article <3FA86FAD.9B2A3A2C@***.net>, L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) ------
III <----------@***.net> writes:
> Like Eugene I can disappear,
Promises promises. :-)
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
III <----------@***.net> writes:
> Like Eugene I can disappear,
Promises promises. :-)
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
11-05-2003, 08:34 PM
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Re: Off Topic, XJ eating fuel pumps
In article <3FA86FAD.9B2A3A2C@***.net>, L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) ------
III <----------@***.net> writes:
> Like Eugene I can disappear,
Promises promises. :-)
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
III <----------@***.net> writes:
> Like Eugene I can disappear,
Promises promises. :-)
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
11-06-2003, 02:49 AM
#95
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Re: XJ eating fuel pumps
On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:10:10 UTC L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@***.net> wrote:
> I can tell you it's so tempting to use the the internal pump on our
> Hot Rod applications, because there's a cazillion of the in the bone
> yards, but it just won't work. Their heat must radiate down the metal
> pickup tube.
You raise a good question here. Like I say, measure the length of the
internal pump and how far it sits off the low spot in the tank. To be
completely submerged you need AT LEAST 5-6 inches for the length of
the pump plus the inlet (which is plastic) and the sock pressed onto
it. As for your hotrods, do you know if they use a pressure regulator
that will allow constant flow thru the pump? I ran capacity checks on
mine and if at least 80% of the pump capacity wasn't being
recirculated I couldn't make to the next gas station without running
out of gas - sucker filled the 3 liter bottle in nothing flat at idle.
That was just running the return line into the bottle - downstream of
the regulator.
--
Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>
<----------@***.net> wrote:
> I can tell you it's so tempting to use the the internal pump on our
> Hot Rod applications, because there's a cazillion of the in the bone
> yards, but it just won't work. Their heat must radiate down the metal
> pickup tube.
You raise a good question here. Like I say, measure the length of the
internal pump and how far it sits off the low spot in the tank. To be
completely submerged you need AT LEAST 5-6 inches for the length of
the pump plus the inlet (which is plastic) and the sock pressed onto
it. As for your hotrods, do you know if they use a pressure regulator
that will allow constant flow thru the pump? I ran capacity checks on
mine and if at least 80% of the pump capacity wasn't being
recirculated I couldn't make to the next gas station without running
out of gas - sucker filled the 3 liter bottle in nothing flat at idle.
That was just running the return line into the bottle - downstream of
the regulator.
--
Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>
11-06-2003, 02:49 AM
#96
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Re: XJ eating fuel pumps
On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:10:10 UTC L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@***.net> wrote:
> I can tell you it's so tempting to use the the internal pump on our
> Hot Rod applications, because there's a cazillion of the in the bone
> yards, but it just won't work. Their heat must radiate down the metal
> pickup tube.
You raise a good question here. Like I say, measure the length of the
internal pump and how far it sits off the low spot in the tank. To be
completely submerged you need AT LEAST 5-6 inches for the length of
the pump plus the inlet (which is plastic) and the sock pressed onto
it. As for your hotrods, do you know if they use a pressure regulator
that will allow constant flow thru the pump? I ran capacity checks on
mine and if at least 80% of the pump capacity wasn't being
recirculated I couldn't make to the next gas station without running
out of gas - sucker filled the 3 liter bottle in nothing flat at idle.
That was just running the return line into the bottle - downstream of
the regulator.
--
Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>
<----------@***.net> wrote:
> I can tell you it's so tempting to use the the internal pump on our
> Hot Rod applications, because there's a cazillion of the in the bone
> yards, but it just won't work. Their heat must radiate down the metal
> pickup tube.
You raise a good question here. Like I say, measure the length of the
internal pump and how far it sits off the low spot in the tank. To be
completely submerged you need AT LEAST 5-6 inches for the length of
the pump plus the inlet (which is plastic) and the sock pressed onto
it. As for your hotrods, do you know if they use a pressure regulator
that will allow constant flow thru the pump? I ran capacity checks on
mine and if at least 80% of the pump capacity wasn't being
recirculated I couldn't make to the next gas station without running
out of gas - sucker filled the 3 liter bottle in nothing flat at idle.
That was just running the return line into the bottle - downstream of
the regulator.
--
Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>
11-06-2003, 02:49 AM
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Re: XJ eating fuel pumps
On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:10:10 UTC L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@***.net> wrote:
> I can tell you it's so tempting to use the the internal pump on our
> Hot Rod applications, because there's a cazillion of the in the bone
> yards, but it just won't work. Their heat must radiate down the metal
> pickup tube.
You raise a good question here. Like I say, measure the length of the
internal pump and how far it sits off the low spot in the tank. To be
completely submerged you need AT LEAST 5-6 inches for the length of
the pump plus the inlet (which is plastic) and the sock pressed onto
it. As for your hotrods, do you know if they use a pressure regulator
that will allow constant flow thru the pump? I ran capacity checks on
mine and if at least 80% of the pump capacity wasn't being
recirculated I couldn't make to the next gas station without running
out of gas - sucker filled the 3 liter bottle in nothing flat at idle.
That was just running the return line into the bottle - downstream of
the regulator.
--
Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>
<----------@***.net> wrote:
> I can tell you it's so tempting to use the the internal pump on our
> Hot Rod applications, because there's a cazillion of the in the bone
> yards, but it just won't work. Their heat must radiate down the metal
> pickup tube.
You raise a good question here. Like I say, measure the length of the
internal pump and how far it sits off the low spot in the tank. To be
completely submerged you need AT LEAST 5-6 inches for the length of
the pump plus the inlet (which is plastic) and the sock pressed onto
it. As for your hotrods, do you know if they use a pressure regulator
that will allow constant flow thru the pump? I ran capacity checks on
mine and if at least 80% of the pump capacity wasn't being
recirculated I couldn't make to the next gas station without running
out of gas - sucker filled the 3 liter bottle in nothing flat at idle.
That was just running the return line into the bottle - downstream of
the regulator.
--
Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>
11-06-2003, 03:42 AM
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Re: XJ eating fuel pumps
The guys I know that tried to use the pumps were running the stock
Ford and Chevy engines and their electronic injection that still use the
regulators in the fuel rails, like Chrysler used to. The fuel pump I
replaced in my '89 T-bird lays at about forty five degrees, It's about
four inches long, I'd say it would be completely submerged with a
quarter tank. A picture of a Jeep pump:
http://www.4x4wire.com/jeep/tech/fue...J01/graft2.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Will Honea wrote:
>
> On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:10:10 UTC L.W.(ßill) ------ III
> <----------@***.net> wrote:
>
> > I can tell you it's so tempting to use the the internal pump on our
> > Hot Rod applications, because there's a cazillion of the in the bone
> > yards, but it just won't work. Their heat must radiate down the metal
> > pickup tube.
>
> You raise a good question here. Like I say, measure the length of the
> internal pump and how far it sits off the low spot in the tank. To be
> completely submerged you need AT LEAST 5-6 inches for the length of
> the pump plus the inlet (which is plastic) and the sock pressed onto
> it. As for your hotrods, do you know if they use a pressure regulator
> that will allow constant flow thru the pump? I ran capacity checks on
> mine and if at least 80% of the pump capacity wasn't being
> recirculated I couldn't make to the next gas station without running
> out of gas - sucker filled the 3 liter bottle in nothing flat at idle.
> That was just running the return line into the bottle - downstream of
> the regulator.
>
> --
> Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>
Ford and Chevy engines and their electronic injection that still use the
regulators in the fuel rails, like Chrysler used to. The fuel pump I
replaced in my '89 T-bird lays at about forty five degrees, It's about
four inches long, I'd say it would be completely submerged with a
quarter tank. A picture of a Jeep pump:
http://www.4x4wire.com/jeep/tech/fue...J01/graft2.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Will Honea wrote:
>
> On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:10:10 UTC L.W.(ßill) ------ III
> <----------@***.net> wrote:
>
> > I can tell you it's so tempting to use the the internal pump on our
> > Hot Rod applications, because there's a cazillion of the in the bone
> > yards, but it just won't work. Their heat must radiate down the metal
> > pickup tube.
>
> You raise a good question here. Like I say, measure the length of the
> internal pump and how far it sits off the low spot in the tank. To be
> completely submerged you need AT LEAST 5-6 inches for the length of
> the pump plus the inlet (which is plastic) and the sock pressed onto
> it. As for your hotrods, do you know if they use a pressure regulator
> that will allow constant flow thru the pump? I ran capacity checks on
> mine and if at least 80% of the pump capacity wasn't being
> recirculated I couldn't make to the next gas station without running
> out of gas - sucker filled the 3 liter bottle in nothing flat at idle.
> That was just running the return line into the bottle - downstream of
> the regulator.
>
> --
> Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>
11-06-2003, 03:42 AM
#99
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Re: XJ eating fuel pumps
The guys I know that tried to use the pumps were running the stock
Ford and Chevy engines and their electronic injection that still use the
regulators in the fuel rails, like Chrysler used to. The fuel pump I
replaced in my '89 T-bird lays at about forty five degrees, It's about
four inches long, I'd say it would be completely submerged with a
quarter tank. A picture of a Jeep pump:
http://www.4x4wire.com/jeep/tech/fue...J01/graft2.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Will Honea wrote:
>
> On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:10:10 UTC L.W.(ßill) ------ III
> <----------@***.net> wrote:
>
> > I can tell you it's so tempting to use the the internal pump on our
> > Hot Rod applications, because there's a cazillion of the in the bone
> > yards, but it just won't work. Their heat must radiate down the metal
> > pickup tube.
>
> You raise a good question here. Like I say, measure the length of the
> internal pump and how far it sits off the low spot in the tank. To be
> completely submerged you need AT LEAST 5-6 inches for the length of
> the pump plus the inlet (which is plastic) and the sock pressed onto
> it. As for your hotrods, do you know if they use a pressure regulator
> that will allow constant flow thru the pump? I ran capacity checks on
> mine and if at least 80% of the pump capacity wasn't being
> recirculated I couldn't make to the next gas station without running
> out of gas - sucker filled the 3 liter bottle in nothing flat at idle.
> That was just running the return line into the bottle - downstream of
> the regulator.
>
> --
> Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>
Ford and Chevy engines and their electronic injection that still use the
regulators in the fuel rails, like Chrysler used to. The fuel pump I
replaced in my '89 T-bird lays at about forty five degrees, It's about
four inches long, I'd say it would be completely submerged with a
quarter tank. A picture of a Jeep pump:
http://www.4x4wire.com/jeep/tech/fue...J01/graft2.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Will Honea wrote:
>
> On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:10:10 UTC L.W.(ßill) ------ III
> <----------@***.net> wrote:
>
> > I can tell you it's so tempting to use the the internal pump on our
> > Hot Rod applications, because there's a cazillion of the in the bone
> > yards, but it just won't work. Their heat must radiate down the metal
> > pickup tube.
>
> You raise a good question here. Like I say, measure the length of the
> internal pump and how far it sits off the low spot in the tank. To be
> completely submerged you need AT LEAST 5-6 inches for the length of
> the pump plus the inlet (which is plastic) and the sock pressed onto
> it. As for your hotrods, do you know if they use a pressure regulator
> that will allow constant flow thru the pump? I ran capacity checks on
> mine and if at least 80% of the pump capacity wasn't being
> recirculated I couldn't make to the next gas station without running
> out of gas - sucker filled the 3 liter bottle in nothing flat at idle.
> That was just running the return line into the bottle - downstream of
> the regulator.
>
> --
> Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>
11-06-2003, 03:42 AM
#100
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Re: XJ eating fuel pumps
The guys I know that tried to use the pumps were running the stock
Ford and Chevy engines and their electronic injection that still use the
regulators in the fuel rails, like Chrysler used to. The fuel pump I
replaced in my '89 T-bird lays at about forty five degrees, It's about
four inches long, I'd say it would be completely submerged with a
quarter tank. A picture of a Jeep pump:
http://www.4x4wire.com/jeep/tech/fue...J01/graft2.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Will Honea wrote:
>
> On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:10:10 UTC L.W.(ßill) ------ III
> <----------@***.net> wrote:
>
> > I can tell you it's so tempting to use the the internal pump on our
> > Hot Rod applications, because there's a cazillion of the in the bone
> > yards, but it just won't work. Their heat must radiate down the metal
> > pickup tube.
>
> You raise a good question here. Like I say, measure the length of the
> internal pump and how far it sits off the low spot in the tank. To be
> completely submerged you need AT LEAST 5-6 inches for the length of
> the pump plus the inlet (which is plastic) and the sock pressed onto
> it. As for your hotrods, do you know if they use a pressure regulator
> that will allow constant flow thru the pump? I ran capacity checks on
> mine and if at least 80% of the pump capacity wasn't being
> recirculated I couldn't make to the next gas station without running
> out of gas - sucker filled the 3 liter bottle in nothing flat at idle.
> That was just running the return line into the bottle - downstream of
> the regulator.
>
> --
> Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>
Ford and Chevy engines and their electronic injection that still use the
regulators in the fuel rails, like Chrysler used to. The fuel pump I
replaced in my '89 T-bird lays at about forty five degrees, It's about
four inches long, I'd say it would be completely submerged with a
quarter tank. A picture of a Jeep pump:
http://www.4x4wire.com/jeep/tech/fue...J01/graft2.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Will Honea wrote:
>
> On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:10:10 UTC L.W.(ßill) ------ III
> <----------@***.net> wrote:
>
> > I can tell you it's so tempting to use the the internal pump on our
> > Hot Rod applications, because there's a cazillion of the in the bone
> > yards, but it just won't work. Their heat must radiate down the metal
> > pickup tube.
>
> You raise a good question here. Like I say, measure the length of the
> internal pump and how far it sits off the low spot in the tank. To be
> completely submerged you need AT LEAST 5-6 inches for the length of
> the pump plus the inlet (which is plastic) and the sock pressed onto
> it. As for your hotrods, do you know if they use a pressure regulator
> that will allow constant flow thru the pump? I ran capacity checks on
> mine and if at least 80% of the pump capacity wasn't being
> recirculated I couldn't make to the next gas station without running
> out of gas - sucker filled the 3 liter bottle in nothing flat at idle.
> That was just running the return line into the bottle - downstream of
> the regulator.
>
> --
> Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>