Grumman-581

On Wed, 23 May 2007 14:08:03 -0700, XS11E <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com>
wrote:
> Usually the gods consider a burnt arm as equal to a blood sacrifice but
> watch out, they may still want blood as well as burn! <G>

The usual scraped knuckles managed to satisfy that portion of it...

As I pulled the carpet up, I noticed some extremely small insects
under there... Kind of looked like ants, but a lot smaller than the
fire ants that we normally have around here... Not a lot of them, but
enough that I decided to investigate further... The padding under the
carpet was soaked, so I decided that at the least, it was time to
replace the carpet in my XJ... I cut it out on the passenger side and
discovered a couple of small holes where it had rusted through...
Probably about an inch in diameter... Worked my way back to the rear
of the passenger side and found a larger section that had rusted out
directly above the muffler... It was a complete hole, but it was
flimsy enough that my cleaning it up made it look like Swiss cheese...
Probably about 6" across and maybe 12" in length... Investigating
further, it appears that when the stealership put the underbody
rustproofing on the vehicle, they did missed the area above the
muffler... The carpet removal on the driver's side showed no rust
whatsoever... It looked brand new...

I've seen some of the guys with the CJs, YJs, and TJs who removed the
carpet from their vehicles and then had the metal covered with the
Rhino spray on liner... Anyone around here tried that with an XJ? Do
you relocate the wires that go across the floorboard on the driver's
side or do you just embed them in the polyurethane material?

Looks like it's going to be awhile before I'm driving my XJ again...

Grumman-581

On Wed, 23 May 2007 14:08:03 -0700, XS11E <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com>
wrote:
> Usually the gods consider a burnt arm as equal to a blood sacrifice but
> watch out, they may still want blood as well as burn! <G>

The usual scraped knuckles managed to satisfy that portion of it...

As I pulled the carpet up, I noticed some extremely small insects
under there... Kind of looked like ants, but a lot smaller than the
fire ants that we normally have around here... Not a lot of them, but
enough that I decided to investigate further... The padding under the
carpet was soaked, so I decided that at the least, it was time to
replace the carpet in my XJ... I cut it out on the passenger side and
discovered a couple of small holes where it had rusted through...
Probably about an inch in diameter... Worked my way back to the rear
of the passenger side and found a larger section that had rusted out
directly above the muffler... It was a complete hole, but it was
flimsy enough that my cleaning it up made it look like Swiss cheese...
Probably about 6" across and maybe 12" in length... Investigating
further, it appears that when the stealership put the underbody
rustproofing on the vehicle, they did missed the area above the
muffler... The carpet removal on the driver's side showed no rust
whatsoever... It looked brand new...

I've seen some of the guys with the CJs, YJs, and TJs who removed the
carpet from their vehicles and then had the metal covered with the
Rhino spray on liner... Anyone around here tried that with an XJ? Do
you relocate the wires that go across the floorboard on the driver's
side or do you just embed them in the polyurethane material?

Looks like it's going to be awhile before I'm driving my XJ again...

Grumman-581

On Wed, 23 May 2007 14:08:03 -0700, XS11E <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com>
wrote:
> Usually the gods consider a burnt arm as equal to a blood sacrifice but
> watch out, they may still want blood as well as burn! <G>

The usual scraped knuckles managed to satisfy that portion of it...

As I pulled the carpet up, I noticed some extremely small insects
under there... Kind of looked like ants, but a lot smaller than the
fire ants that we normally have around here... Not a lot of them, but
enough that I decided to investigate further... The padding under the
carpet was soaked, so I decided that at the least, it was time to
replace the carpet in my XJ... I cut it out on the passenger side and
discovered a couple of small holes where it had rusted through...
Probably about an inch in diameter... Worked my way back to the rear
of the passenger side and found a larger section that had rusted out
directly above the muffler... It was a complete hole, but it was
flimsy enough that my cleaning it up made it look like Swiss cheese...
Probably about 6" across and maybe 12" in length... Investigating
further, it appears that when the stealership put the underbody
rustproofing on the vehicle, they did missed the area above the
muffler... The carpet removal on the driver's side showed no rust
whatsoever... It looked brand new...

I've seen some of the guys with the CJs, YJs, and TJs who removed the
carpet from their vehicles and then had the metal covered with the
Rhino spray on liner... Anyone around here tried that with an XJ? Do
you relocate the wires that go across the floorboard on the driver's
side or do you just embed them in the polyurethane material?

Looks like it's going to be awhile before I'm driving my XJ again...

Will Honea

Grumman-581 wrote:

> On Wed, 23 May 2007 19:09:58 GMT, "Jeff Strickland"
> <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> When you pull the carpet back, you should find a small rubber hose that
>> the evaporator drains through. You can clean this drain, there is no need
>> to make a new one.
>
> Since it looked like I was going to be needing to remove the trim
> pieces in order to remove the pull the carpet and underlayment back, I
> tried working on it from the other end (i.e. from underneath the
> vehicle)... There is a black rubber hose hanging loose and I poked a
> wire up inside of it... It seems that I'm getting some drainage now,
> but I'll need to wait until the carpet dries out before I can
> determine if that is a complete solution... I suspect that it would be
> better to be running the wire through it from the other end since the
> way that I did it, any gunk that was in the line just got pressed back
> up inside and it might eventually migrate back there... Of course, I
> burnt the ---- out of underside of my right forearm on the exhaust
> while trying to do it... Damn, the exhaust is hot enough to singe
> hair... I figure that I would try this solution until someone posted
> the CORRECT way to do it...

On my MJ - like an older XJ - the drain fitting comes through the firewall
and the rubber hose pushes on the that to drain down by the frame. As luck
would have it, the hose fell off and the air pressure at 75-80 mph was
enough to push the water back where it dripped on the wife's feet.
Needless to say, a fix was required...

It plugged up later that summer and my solution was to use a WaterPik to
clean it out - push it up the tube, rotate the hose to get it to spray in
all directions and keep spraying until the water is running freely out of
the hole. You'll know when as it runs down your arm... Be sure to put a
pan in the floor to catch the overflow inside. Did this 5-6 years back and
have had no problem since. I did use a mild bleach solution in the
WaterPik - about a tablespoon per quart - to take care of the odd mold.
--
Will Honea

Will Honea

Grumman-581 wrote:

> On Wed, 23 May 2007 19:09:58 GMT, "Jeff Strickland"
> <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> When you pull the carpet back, you should find a small rubber hose that
>> the evaporator drains through. You can clean this drain, there is no need
>> to make a new one.
>
> Since it looked like I was going to be needing to remove the trim
> pieces in order to remove the pull the carpet and underlayment back, I
> tried working on it from the other end (i.e. from underneath the
> vehicle)... There is a black rubber hose hanging loose and I poked a
> wire up inside of it... It seems that I'm getting some drainage now,
> but I'll need to wait until the carpet dries out before I can
> determine if that is a complete solution... I suspect that it would be
> better to be running the wire through it from the other end since the
> way that I did it, any gunk that was in the line just got pressed back
> up inside and it might eventually migrate back there... Of course, I
> burnt the ---- out of underside of my right forearm on the exhaust
> while trying to do it... Damn, the exhaust is hot enough to singe
> hair... I figure that I would try this solution until someone posted
> the CORRECT way to do it...

On my MJ - like an older XJ - the drain fitting comes through the firewall
and the rubber hose pushes on the that to drain down by the frame. As luck
would have it, the hose fell off and the air pressure at 75-80 mph was
enough to push the water back where it dripped on the wife's feet.
Needless to say, a fix was required...

It plugged up later that summer and my solution was to use a WaterPik to
clean it out - push it up the tube, rotate the hose to get it to spray in
all directions and keep spraying until the water is running freely out of
the hole. You'll know when as it runs down your arm... Be sure to put a
pan in the floor to catch the overflow inside. Did this 5-6 years back and
have had no problem since. I did use a mild bleach solution in the
WaterPik - about a tablespoon per quart - to take care of the odd mold.
--
Will Honea

Will Honea

Grumman-581 wrote:

> On Wed, 23 May 2007 19:09:58 GMT, "Jeff Strickland"
> <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> When you pull the carpet back, you should find a small rubber hose that
>> the evaporator drains through. You can clean this drain, there is no need
>> to make a new one.
>
> Since it looked like I was going to be needing to remove the trim
> pieces in order to remove the pull the carpet and underlayment back, I
> tried working on it from the other end (i.e. from underneath the
> vehicle)... There is a black rubber hose hanging loose and I poked a
> wire up inside of it... It seems that I'm getting some drainage now,
> but I'll need to wait until the carpet dries out before I can
> determine if that is a complete solution... I suspect that it would be
> better to be running the wire through it from the other end since the
> way that I did it, any gunk that was in the line just got pressed back
> up inside and it might eventually migrate back there... Of course, I
> burnt the ---- out of underside of my right forearm on the exhaust
> while trying to do it... Damn, the exhaust is hot enough to singe
> hair... I figure that I would try this solution until someone posted
> the CORRECT way to do it...

On my MJ - like an older XJ - the drain fitting comes through the firewall
and the rubber hose pushes on the that to drain down by the frame. As luck
would have it, the hose fell off and the air pressure at 75-80 mph was
enough to push the water back where it dripped on the wife's feet.
Needless to say, a fix was required...

It plugged up later that summer and my solution was to use a WaterPik to
clean it out - push it up the tube, rotate the hose to get it to spray in
all directions and keep spraying until the water is running freely out of
the hole. You'll know when as it runs down your arm... Be sure to put a
pan in the floor to catch the overflow inside. Did this 5-6 years back and
have had no problem since. I did use a mild bleach solution in the
WaterPik - about a tablespoon per quart - to take care of the odd mold.
--
Will Honea

Will Honea

Grumman-581 wrote:

> On Wed, 23 May 2007 19:09:58 GMT, "Jeff Strickland"
> <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> When you pull the carpet back, you should find a small rubber hose that
>> the evaporator drains through. You can clean this drain, there is no need
>> to make a new one.
>
> Since it looked like I was going to be needing to remove the trim
> pieces in order to remove the pull the carpet and underlayment back, I
> tried working on it from the other end (i.e. from underneath the
> vehicle)... There is a black rubber hose hanging loose and I poked a
> wire up inside of it... It seems that I'm getting some drainage now,
> but I'll need to wait until the carpet dries out before I can
> determine if that is a complete solution... I suspect that it would be
> better to be running the wire through it from the other end since the
> way that I did it, any gunk that was in the line just got pressed back
> up inside and it might eventually migrate back there... Of course, I
> burnt the ---- out of underside of my right forearm on the exhaust
> while trying to do it... Damn, the exhaust is hot enough to singe
> hair... I figure that I would try this solution until someone posted
> the CORRECT way to do it...

On my MJ - like an older XJ - the drain fitting comes through the firewall
and the rubber hose pushes on the that to drain down by the frame. As luck
would have it, the hose fell off and the air pressure at 75-80 mph was
enough to push the water back where it dripped on the wife's feet.
Needless to say, a fix was required...

It plugged up later that summer and my solution was to use a WaterPik to
clean it out - push it up the tube, rotate the hose to get it to spray in
all directions and keep spraying until the water is running freely out of
the hole. You'll know when as it runs down your arm... Be sure to put a
pan in the floor to catch the overflow inside. Did this 5-6 years back and
have had no problem since. I did use a mild bleach solution in the
WaterPik - about a tablespoon per quart - to take care of the odd mold.
--
Will Honea