XJ 4.0 loses power on left turns
#41
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Re: XJ 4.0 loses power on left turns
I've never held it in my hands so I'm trying to picture it....but I guess I
could see how it'd get up there....but inside....
I don't have one on my '02 (coils??/ignition module??).
sb
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:Emagc.18723$ec1.16202@okepread01...
> SB did pass the time by typing:
> > Just a question on the dist cap....how would oil get in to that except
by an
> > crack on the outside that had oil dumped on to?
>
> The distributor sits down in the block and its gear gets oil from the
engine.
> There is a seal (bushing) pressed into the shaft that keeps oil from
getting
> up to the cap and rotor. As that bushing wears, oil can work up into the
base
> of the distributor and start to foul the internals. Generally the dist
gets
> so much slop it throws the timing off or starts damaging the posts.
>
> Long time back this was more important because the points sat low enough
> to get crudded up with oil.
>
> > I'm not all that engine savvy but thought that the dist cap just sat on
top
> > of a spindle with a gear on the end of which poked down in to the motor
> > somewhere.....
>
> It does. There is also a small blade on the end of that shaft that turns
your
> oil pump and the little gear is turned by your camshaft.
>
> This is my experience.
> http://members.***.net/wilsond/distributor/
>
> --
> DougW
>
>
could see how it'd get up there....but inside....
I don't have one on my '02 (coils??/ignition module??).
sb
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:Emagc.18723$ec1.16202@okepread01...
> SB did pass the time by typing:
> > Just a question on the dist cap....how would oil get in to that except
by an
> > crack on the outside that had oil dumped on to?
>
> The distributor sits down in the block and its gear gets oil from the
engine.
> There is a seal (bushing) pressed into the shaft that keeps oil from
getting
> up to the cap and rotor. As that bushing wears, oil can work up into the
base
> of the distributor and start to foul the internals. Generally the dist
gets
> so much slop it throws the timing off or starts damaging the posts.
>
> Long time back this was more important because the points sat low enough
> to get crudded up with oil.
>
> > I'm not all that engine savvy but thought that the dist cap just sat on
top
> > of a spindle with a gear on the end of which poked down in to the motor
> > somewhere.....
>
> It does. There is also a small blade on the end of that shaft that turns
your
> oil pump and the little gear is turned by your camshaft.
>
> This is my experience.
> http://members.***.net/wilsond/distributor/
>
> --
> DougW
>
>
#42
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Re: XJ 4.0 loses power on left turns
When the top seal fails on the oil pump, the distributor can get filled
up.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
SB wrote:
>
> Just a question on the dist cap....how would oil get in to that except by an
> crack on the outside that had oil dumped on to?
>
> I'm not all that engine savvy but thought that the dist cap just sat on top
> of a spindle with a gear on the end of which poked down in to the motor
> somewhere.....
>
> sb
>
> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> news:qg1gc.10171$ec1.851@okepread01...
> > Shamus in CO did pass the time by typing:
> > > 96 XJ 4.0 AT loses power when you make hard left turns. The seller was
> > > *very* upfront w/this detail long before I did a test-drive. What do
> you
> > > all think?
> >
> > Long shot. Check the motor mounts to see if the driver's side is broken.
> >
> > Check all the throttle body links and hoses for anything that could be
> binding
> > up.
> >
> > Not so long shot. Crank the steering to full lock left plus just a touch
> > more (don't keep it there, it's hard on the pump) see if that lag is
> caused
> > by a binding steering system causing more drag on the PS pump and
> therefore
> > on the engine. Try the same thing to the right. Should put the same lag
> > on the engine if everything is normal.
> >
> > Another. Pop the cap off the distributor and see if there is oil in
> there.
> > That shouldn't be causing any problems unless there is a lot. (there
> should
> > be none) If there is oil in there you need to replace the distributor.
> > (easy job)
> >
> > Hard to tell for sure, there could be all sorts of things even down to bad
> > diffs (but you should hear that easily).
> >
> > I'm guessing here (as if you can't tell) :)
> >
> > mmm.. Guinness. :D
> >
> > --
> > DougW
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
up.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
SB wrote:
>
> Just a question on the dist cap....how would oil get in to that except by an
> crack on the outside that had oil dumped on to?
>
> I'm not all that engine savvy but thought that the dist cap just sat on top
> of a spindle with a gear on the end of which poked down in to the motor
> somewhere.....
>
> sb
>
> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> news:qg1gc.10171$ec1.851@okepread01...
> > Shamus in CO did pass the time by typing:
> > > 96 XJ 4.0 AT loses power when you make hard left turns. The seller was
> > > *very* upfront w/this detail long before I did a test-drive. What do
> you
> > > all think?
> >
> > Long shot. Check the motor mounts to see if the driver's side is broken.
> >
> > Check all the throttle body links and hoses for anything that could be
> binding
> > up.
> >
> > Not so long shot. Crank the steering to full lock left plus just a touch
> > more (don't keep it there, it's hard on the pump) see if that lag is
> caused
> > by a binding steering system causing more drag on the PS pump and
> therefore
> > on the engine. Try the same thing to the right. Should put the same lag
> > on the engine if everything is normal.
> >
> > Another. Pop the cap off the distributor and see if there is oil in
> there.
> > That shouldn't be causing any problems unless there is a lot. (there
> should
> > be none) If there is oil in there you need to replace the distributor.
> > (easy job)
> >
> > Hard to tell for sure, there could be all sorts of things even down to bad
> > diffs (but you should hear that easily).
> >
> > I'm guessing here (as if you can't tell) :)
> >
> > mmm.. Guinness. :D
> >
> > --
> > DougW
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
#43
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Re: XJ 4.0 loses power on left turns
When the top seal fails on the oil pump, the distributor can get filled
up.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
SB wrote:
>
> Just a question on the dist cap....how would oil get in to that except by an
> crack on the outside that had oil dumped on to?
>
> I'm not all that engine savvy but thought that the dist cap just sat on top
> of a spindle with a gear on the end of which poked down in to the motor
> somewhere.....
>
> sb
>
> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> news:qg1gc.10171$ec1.851@okepread01...
> > Shamus in CO did pass the time by typing:
> > > 96 XJ 4.0 AT loses power when you make hard left turns. The seller was
> > > *very* upfront w/this detail long before I did a test-drive. What do
> you
> > > all think?
> >
> > Long shot. Check the motor mounts to see if the driver's side is broken.
> >
> > Check all the throttle body links and hoses for anything that could be
> binding
> > up.
> >
> > Not so long shot. Crank the steering to full lock left plus just a touch
> > more (don't keep it there, it's hard on the pump) see if that lag is
> caused
> > by a binding steering system causing more drag on the PS pump and
> therefore
> > on the engine. Try the same thing to the right. Should put the same lag
> > on the engine if everything is normal.
> >
> > Another. Pop the cap off the distributor and see if there is oil in
> there.
> > That shouldn't be causing any problems unless there is a lot. (there
> should
> > be none) If there is oil in there you need to replace the distributor.
> > (easy job)
> >
> > Hard to tell for sure, there could be all sorts of things even down to bad
> > diffs (but you should hear that easily).
> >
> > I'm guessing here (as if you can't tell) :)
> >
> > mmm.. Guinness. :D
> >
> > --
> > DougW
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
up.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
SB wrote:
>
> Just a question on the dist cap....how would oil get in to that except by an
> crack on the outside that had oil dumped on to?
>
> I'm not all that engine savvy but thought that the dist cap just sat on top
> of a spindle with a gear on the end of which poked down in to the motor
> somewhere.....
>
> sb
>
> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> news:qg1gc.10171$ec1.851@okepread01...
> > Shamus in CO did pass the time by typing:
> > > 96 XJ 4.0 AT loses power when you make hard left turns. The seller was
> > > *very* upfront w/this detail long before I did a test-drive. What do
> you
> > > all think?
> >
> > Long shot. Check the motor mounts to see if the driver's side is broken.
> >
> > Check all the throttle body links and hoses for anything that could be
> binding
> > up.
> >
> > Not so long shot. Crank the steering to full lock left plus just a touch
> > more (don't keep it there, it's hard on the pump) see if that lag is
> caused
> > by a binding steering system causing more drag on the PS pump and
> therefore
> > on the engine. Try the same thing to the right. Should put the same lag
> > on the engine if everything is normal.
> >
> > Another. Pop the cap off the distributor and see if there is oil in
> there.
> > That shouldn't be causing any problems unless there is a lot. (there
> should
> > be none) If there is oil in there you need to replace the distributor.
> > (easy job)
> >
> > Hard to tell for sure, there could be all sorts of things even down to bad
> > diffs (but you should hear that easily).
> >
> > I'm guessing here (as if you can't tell) :)
> >
> > mmm.. Guinness. :D
> >
> > --
> > DougW
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
#44
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Re: XJ 4.0 loses power on left turns
When the top seal fails on the oil pump, the distributor can get filled
up.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
SB wrote:
>
> Just a question on the dist cap....how would oil get in to that except by an
> crack on the outside that had oil dumped on to?
>
> I'm not all that engine savvy but thought that the dist cap just sat on top
> of a spindle with a gear on the end of which poked down in to the motor
> somewhere.....
>
> sb
>
> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> news:qg1gc.10171$ec1.851@okepread01...
> > Shamus in CO did pass the time by typing:
> > > 96 XJ 4.0 AT loses power when you make hard left turns. The seller was
> > > *very* upfront w/this detail long before I did a test-drive. What do
> you
> > > all think?
> >
> > Long shot. Check the motor mounts to see if the driver's side is broken.
> >
> > Check all the throttle body links and hoses for anything that could be
> binding
> > up.
> >
> > Not so long shot. Crank the steering to full lock left plus just a touch
> > more (don't keep it there, it's hard on the pump) see if that lag is
> caused
> > by a binding steering system causing more drag on the PS pump and
> therefore
> > on the engine. Try the same thing to the right. Should put the same lag
> > on the engine if everything is normal.
> >
> > Another. Pop the cap off the distributor and see if there is oil in
> there.
> > That shouldn't be causing any problems unless there is a lot. (there
> should
> > be none) If there is oil in there you need to replace the distributor.
> > (easy job)
> >
> > Hard to tell for sure, there could be all sorts of things even down to bad
> > diffs (but you should hear that easily).
> >
> > I'm guessing here (as if you can't tell) :)
> >
> > mmm.. Guinness. :D
> >
> > --
> > DougW
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
up.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
SB wrote:
>
> Just a question on the dist cap....how would oil get in to that except by an
> crack on the outside that had oil dumped on to?
>
> I'm not all that engine savvy but thought that the dist cap just sat on top
> of a spindle with a gear on the end of which poked down in to the motor
> somewhere.....
>
> sb
>
> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> news:qg1gc.10171$ec1.851@okepread01...
> > Shamus in CO did pass the time by typing:
> > > 96 XJ 4.0 AT loses power when you make hard left turns. The seller was
> > > *very* upfront w/this detail long before I did a test-drive. What do
> you
> > > all think?
> >
> > Long shot. Check the motor mounts to see if the driver's side is broken.
> >
> > Check all the throttle body links and hoses for anything that could be
> binding
> > up.
> >
> > Not so long shot. Crank the steering to full lock left plus just a touch
> > more (don't keep it there, it's hard on the pump) see if that lag is
> caused
> > by a binding steering system causing more drag on the PS pump and
> therefore
> > on the engine. Try the same thing to the right. Should put the same lag
> > on the engine if everything is normal.
> >
> > Another. Pop the cap off the distributor and see if there is oil in
> there.
> > That shouldn't be causing any problems unless there is a lot. (there
> should
> > be none) If there is oil in there you need to replace the distributor.
> > (easy job)
> >
> > Hard to tell for sure, there could be all sorts of things even down to bad
> > diffs (but you should hear that easily).
> >
> > I'm guessing here (as if you can't tell) :)
> >
> > mmm.. Guinness. :D
> >
> > --
> > DougW
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
#45
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: XJ 4.0 loses power on left turns
When the top seal fails on the oil pump, the distributor can get filled
up.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
SB wrote:
>
> Just a question on the dist cap....how would oil get in to that except by an
> crack on the outside that had oil dumped on to?
>
> I'm not all that engine savvy but thought that the dist cap just sat on top
> of a spindle with a gear on the end of which poked down in to the motor
> somewhere.....
>
> sb
>
> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> news:qg1gc.10171$ec1.851@okepread01...
> > Shamus in CO did pass the time by typing:
> > > 96 XJ 4.0 AT loses power when you make hard left turns. The seller was
> > > *very* upfront w/this detail long before I did a test-drive. What do
> you
> > > all think?
> >
> > Long shot. Check the motor mounts to see if the driver's side is broken.
> >
> > Check all the throttle body links and hoses for anything that could be
> binding
> > up.
> >
> > Not so long shot. Crank the steering to full lock left plus just a touch
> > more (don't keep it there, it's hard on the pump) see if that lag is
> caused
> > by a binding steering system causing more drag on the PS pump and
> therefore
> > on the engine. Try the same thing to the right. Should put the same lag
> > on the engine if everything is normal.
> >
> > Another. Pop the cap off the distributor and see if there is oil in
> there.
> > That shouldn't be causing any problems unless there is a lot. (there
> should
> > be none) If there is oil in there you need to replace the distributor.
> > (easy job)
> >
> > Hard to tell for sure, there could be all sorts of things even down to bad
> > diffs (but you should hear that easily).
> >
> > I'm guessing here (as if you can't tell) :)
> >
> > mmm.. Guinness. :D
> >
> > --
> > DougW
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
up.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
SB wrote:
>
> Just a question on the dist cap....how would oil get in to that except by an
> crack on the outside that had oil dumped on to?
>
> I'm not all that engine savvy but thought that the dist cap just sat on top
> of a spindle with a gear on the end of which poked down in to the motor
> somewhere.....
>
> sb
>
> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> news:qg1gc.10171$ec1.851@okepread01...
> > Shamus in CO did pass the time by typing:
> > > 96 XJ 4.0 AT loses power when you make hard left turns. The seller was
> > > *very* upfront w/this detail long before I did a test-drive. What do
> you
> > > all think?
> >
> > Long shot. Check the motor mounts to see if the driver's side is broken.
> >
> > Check all the throttle body links and hoses for anything that could be
> binding
> > up.
> >
> > Not so long shot. Crank the steering to full lock left plus just a touch
> > more (don't keep it there, it's hard on the pump) see if that lag is
> caused
> > by a binding steering system causing more drag on the PS pump and
> therefore
> > on the engine. Try the same thing to the right. Should put the same lag
> > on the engine if everything is normal.
> >
> > Another. Pop the cap off the distributor and see if there is oil in
> there.
> > That shouldn't be causing any problems unless there is a lot. (there
> should
> > be none) If there is oil in there you need to replace the distributor.
> > (easy job)
> >
> > Hard to tell for sure, there could be all sorts of things even down to bad
> > diffs (but you should hear that easily).
> >
> > I'm guessing here (as if you can't tell) :)
> >
> > mmm.. Guinness. :D
> >
> > --
> > DougW
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
#46
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Re: XJ 4.0 loses power on left turns
I would be looking for a wire on the exhaust manifold or on the pipe
that is 'almost' touching. Turn a corner and gravity does it's thing.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Shamus in CO wrote:
>
> 96 XJ 4.0 AT loses power when you make hard left turns. The seller was
> *very* upfront w/this detail long before I did a test-drive. What do you
> all think?
>
> Shamus
that is 'almost' touching. Turn a corner and gravity does it's thing.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Shamus in CO wrote:
>
> 96 XJ 4.0 AT loses power when you make hard left turns. The seller was
> *very* upfront w/this detail long before I did a test-drive. What do you
> all think?
>
> Shamus
#47
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Posts: n/a
Re: XJ 4.0 loses power on left turns
I would be looking for a wire on the exhaust manifold or on the pipe
that is 'almost' touching. Turn a corner and gravity does it's thing.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Shamus in CO wrote:
>
> 96 XJ 4.0 AT loses power when you make hard left turns. The seller was
> *very* upfront w/this detail long before I did a test-drive. What do you
> all think?
>
> Shamus
that is 'almost' touching. Turn a corner and gravity does it's thing.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Shamus in CO wrote:
>
> 96 XJ 4.0 AT loses power when you make hard left turns. The seller was
> *very* upfront w/this detail long before I did a test-drive. What do you
> all think?
>
> Shamus
#48
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: XJ 4.0 loses power on left turns
I would be looking for a wire on the exhaust manifold or on the pipe
that is 'almost' touching. Turn a corner and gravity does it's thing.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Shamus in CO wrote:
>
> 96 XJ 4.0 AT loses power when you make hard left turns. The seller was
> *very* upfront w/this detail long before I did a test-drive. What do you
> all think?
>
> Shamus
that is 'almost' touching. Turn a corner and gravity does it's thing.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Shamus in CO wrote:
>
> 96 XJ 4.0 AT loses power when you make hard left turns. The seller was
> *very* upfront w/this detail long before I did a test-drive. What do you
> all think?
>
> Shamus
#49
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: XJ 4.0 loses power on left turns
I would be looking for a wire on the exhaust manifold or on the pipe
that is 'almost' touching. Turn a corner and gravity does it's thing.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Shamus in CO wrote:
>
> 96 XJ 4.0 AT loses power when you make hard left turns. The seller was
> *very* upfront w/this detail long before I did a test-drive. What do you
> all think?
>
> Shamus
that is 'almost' touching. Turn a corner and gravity does it's thing.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Shamus in CO wrote:
>
> 96 XJ 4.0 AT loses power when you make hard left turns. The seller was
> *very* upfront w/this detail long before I did a test-drive. What do you
> all think?
>
> Shamus
#50
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Re: XJ 4.0 loses power on left turns
Mike Romain did pass the time by typing:
> I would be looking for a wire on the exhaust manifold or on the pipe
> that is 'almost' touching. Turn a corner and gravity does it's thing.
Heh..
Like this one for my O2 sensor that was burned.
http://members.***.net/wilsond/temp/damage.jpg
That happened down on the engine just forward of
where the O2 sensor harness clips to the oil pan.
There is a bolt and clip that holds it to the
engine block. Seems it can get a _tad_ too close
to the header or get pinched in the clip. The
excess heat also makes the wire brittle, I had to
clean and strip about 4" of wire and re-inusulate
it with rubber tape. (splicing is optional)
To reroute it I used the upper rear PS adjustment
bolt to hold the clip in and ran the wire way clear
of the header.
Sorry, no pics. :( I need to clean up some space on
the ol website.
--
DougW
> I would be looking for a wire on the exhaust manifold or on the pipe
> that is 'almost' touching. Turn a corner and gravity does it's thing.
Heh..
Like this one for my O2 sensor that was burned.
http://members.***.net/wilsond/temp/damage.jpg
That happened down on the engine just forward of
where the O2 sensor harness clips to the oil pan.
There is a bolt and clip that holds it to the
engine block. Seems it can get a _tad_ too close
to the header or get pinched in the clip. The
excess heat also makes the wire brittle, I had to
clean and strip about 4" of wire and re-inusulate
it with rubber tape. (splicing is optional)
To reroute it I used the upper rear PS adjustment
bolt to hold the clip in and ran the wire way clear
of the header.
Sorry, no pics. :( I need to clean up some space on
the ol website.
--
DougW