HomeBrewer

Here is the fork from my T5, 258, 85 CJ7.

http://www.t3e871.rchomepage.com/ngpics/t5fork.jpg

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"Michael White" <michael12@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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> HomeBrewer (85cj7XXX@***.net) wrote on Sunday 06 February 2005 10:09 pm:
>
>> Did you replace the fork?
>>
>
> No, but I bought the Scrambler in 1998, a lot of years where who knows
> what
> may have happened. For all I know, someone busted it at one time in the
> past and picked up one in a junk yard...
> --
> Michael White "To protect people from the effects of folly is to
> fill the world with fools." -Herbert Spencer, 1891

HomeBrewer

Here is the fork from my T5, 258, 85 CJ7.

http://www.t3e871.rchomepage.com/ngpics/t5fork.jpg

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___________________
HomeBrewer
http://85cj7.blogspot.com/
http://85cj7.webhop.net/
http://funfacts.webhop.org/
"When you decide something is impossible to do, try to stay out of the way
of the man that's doing it."
"Michael White" <michael12@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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> HomeBrewer (85cj7XXX@***.net) wrote on Sunday 06 February 2005 10:09 pm:
>
>> Did you replace the fork?
>>
>
> No, but I bought the Scrambler in 1998, a lot of years where who knows
> what
> may have happened. For all I know, someone busted it at one time in the
> past and picked up one in a junk yard...
> --
> Michael White "To protect people from the effects of folly is to
> fill the world with fools." -Herbert Spencer, 1891

HomeBrewer

Here is the fork from my T5, 258, 85 CJ7.

http://www.t3e871.rchomepage.com/ngpics/t5fork.jpg

--
___________________
HomeBrewer
http://85cj7.blogspot.com/
http://85cj7.webhop.net/
http://funfacts.webhop.org/
"When you decide something is impossible to do, try to stay out of the way
of the man that's doing it."
"Michael White" <michael12@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:ovCNd.2303$mG6.2121@newsread1.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
> HomeBrewer (85cj7XXX@***.net) wrote on Sunday 06 February 2005 10:09 pm:
>
>> Did you replace the fork?
>>
>
> No, but I bought the Scrambler in 1998, a lot of years where who knows
> what
> may have happened. For all I know, someone busted it at one time in the
> past and picked up one in a junk yard...
> --
> Michael White "To protect people from the effects of folly is to
> fill the world with fools." -Herbert Spencer, 1891

Michael White

Mike Romain (romainm@sympatico.ca) wrote on Monday 07 February 2005 08:28
am:

> Are you missing the 1/2" or so round ball bearing pivot point for the
> lever that sits just inside the bell housing? That ball is held in with
> a small spring that goes from the nose cone to the arm.

The one that sort of sits on a pedestal, right? Yes, that's there.

> If missing, the pedal will be hard and you cannot adjust it far enough
> to have the clutch stay free wheeling when down. You will 'bottom out'
> the linkage stressing the crap out of the bell crank and always have the
> throw out bearing touching the pressure plate fingers in order to get it
> to go far enough.
>
> What did the fingers look like on the old plate? Any wear or scuff
> marks?

The fingers definitely have scuff marks.

> Did the tranny nose cone have any dings on it?

The front of the transmission has no marks or dings on it. The clutch shaft
is a bit wore, though. The gears that mesh with the clutch are clean, but
the portion behind it that the throwout bearing rides on has definite
scoring.

>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Maybe the O'Reilly folks just sold me a bad clutch.
--
Michael White "To protect people from the effects of folly is to
fill the world with fools." -Herbert Spencer, 1891
>
> Michael White wrote:
>>
>> All,
>>
>> I'm getting quite a bit of noise when the clutch is depressed on my '82
>> Scrambler with a 258, a T-5, and manual clutch. This is before and after
>> I
>> replaced the clutch throwout (release) bearing. While paging through the
>> factory service manual, I noticed that my clutch fork looks like the
>> clutch fork used with the four-cylinder, hydraulic clutches: flat on the
>> tines of the forks, flat in the middle of the fork tines, and a deep
>> dimple for the
>> release rod. In the pictures of the manual clutch, the middle of the
>> fork does not look flat, the dimple for the release rod doesn't look as
>> deep, and the tines of the fork do not look flat.
>>
>> I'd take a photo, but it's installed already. I just know that, in
>> addition
>> to the noise, my clutch system is stressed. I've busted a new bellcrank,
>> a
>> portion of the bell housing, and snapped a grade 5 bolt head. And the
>> old clutch I replaced had one if its return springs busted.
>>
>> One other oddity - when I adjust my clutch, I have to adjust the release
>> rod nearly all the way out.
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>> --
>> Michael White "To protect people from the effects of folly is to
>> fill the world with fools." -Herbert Spencer, 1891

Michael White

Mike Romain (romainm@sympatico.ca) wrote on Monday 07 February 2005 08:28
am:

> Are you missing the 1/2" or so round ball bearing pivot point for the
> lever that sits just inside the bell housing? That ball is held in with
> a small spring that goes from the nose cone to the arm.

The one that sort of sits on a pedestal, right? Yes, that's there.

> If missing, the pedal will be hard and you cannot adjust it far enough
> to have the clutch stay free wheeling when down. You will 'bottom out'
> the linkage stressing the crap out of the bell crank and always have the
> throw out bearing touching the pressure plate fingers in order to get it
> to go far enough.
>
> What did the fingers look like on the old plate? Any wear or scuff
> marks?

The fingers definitely have scuff marks.

> Did the tranny nose cone have any dings on it?

The front of the transmission has no marks or dings on it. The clutch shaft
is a bit wore, though. The gears that mesh with the clutch are clean, but
the portion behind it that the throwout bearing rides on has definite
scoring.

>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Maybe the O'Reilly folks just sold me a bad clutch.
--
Michael White "To protect people from the effects of folly is to
fill the world with fools." -Herbert Spencer, 1891
>
> Michael White wrote:
>>
>> All,
>>
>> I'm getting quite a bit of noise when the clutch is depressed on my '82
>> Scrambler with a 258, a T-5, and manual clutch. This is before and after
>> I
>> replaced the clutch throwout (release) bearing. While paging through the
>> factory service manual, I noticed that my clutch fork looks like the
>> clutch fork used with the four-cylinder, hydraulic clutches: flat on the
>> tines of the forks, flat in the middle of the fork tines, and a deep
>> dimple for the
>> release rod. In the pictures of the manual clutch, the middle of the
>> fork does not look flat, the dimple for the release rod doesn't look as
>> deep, and the tines of the fork do not look flat.
>>
>> I'd take a photo, but it's installed already. I just know that, in
>> addition
>> to the noise, my clutch system is stressed. I've busted a new bellcrank,
>> a
>> portion of the bell housing, and snapped a grade 5 bolt head. And the
>> old clutch I replaced had one if its return springs busted.
>>
>> One other oddity - when I adjust my clutch, I have to adjust the release
>> rod nearly all the way out.
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>> --
>> Michael White "To protect people from the effects of folly is to
>> fill the world with fools." -Herbert Spencer, 1891

Michael White

Mike Romain (romainm@sympatico.ca) wrote on Monday 07 February 2005 08:28
am:

> Are you missing the 1/2" or so round ball bearing pivot point for the
> lever that sits just inside the bell housing? That ball is held in with
> a small spring that goes from the nose cone to the arm.

The one that sort of sits on a pedestal, right? Yes, that's there.

> If missing, the pedal will be hard and you cannot adjust it far enough
> to have the clutch stay free wheeling when down. You will 'bottom out'
> the linkage stressing the crap out of the bell crank and always have the
> throw out bearing touching the pressure plate fingers in order to get it
> to go far enough.
>
> What did the fingers look like on the old plate? Any wear or scuff
> marks?

The fingers definitely have scuff marks.

> Did the tranny nose cone have any dings on it?

The front of the transmission has no marks or dings on it. The clutch shaft
is a bit wore, though. The gears that mesh with the clutch are clean, but
the portion behind it that the throwout bearing rides on has definite
scoring.

>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Maybe the O'Reilly folks just sold me a bad clutch.
--
Michael White "To protect people from the effects of folly is to
fill the world with fools." -Herbert Spencer, 1891
>
> Michael White wrote:
>>
>> All,
>>
>> I'm getting quite a bit of noise when the clutch is depressed on my '82
>> Scrambler with a 258, a T-5, and manual clutch. This is before and after
>> I
>> replaced the clutch throwout (release) bearing. While paging through the
>> factory service manual, I noticed that my clutch fork looks like the
>> clutch fork used with the four-cylinder, hydraulic clutches: flat on the
>> tines of the forks, flat in the middle of the fork tines, and a deep
>> dimple for the
>> release rod. In the pictures of the manual clutch, the middle of the
>> fork does not look flat, the dimple for the release rod doesn't look as
>> deep, and the tines of the fork do not look flat.
>>
>> I'd take a photo, but it's installed already. I just know that, in
>> addition
>> to the noise, my clutch system is stressed. I've busted a new bellcrank,
>> a
>> portion of the bell housing, and snapped a grade 5 bolt head. And the
>> old clutch I replaced had one if its return springs busted.
>>
>> One other oddity - when I adjust my clutch, I have to adjust the release
>> rod nearly all the way out.
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>> --
>> Michael White "To protect people from the effects of folly is to
>> fill the world with fools." -Herbert Spencer, 1891

Michael White

HomeBrewer (85cj7XXX@***.net) wrote on Monday 07 February 2005 07:51 pm:

> Here is the fork from my T5, 258, 85 CJ7.
>
> http://www.t3e871.rchomepage.com/ngpics/t5fork.jpg
>

Mostly looks like mine. I'm going to have to pull it apart again, though,
as it has the wrong throwout bearing....
--
Michael White "To protect people from the effects of folly is to
fill the world with fools." -Herbert Spencer, 1891

Michael White

HomeBrewer (85cj7XXX@***.net) wrote on Monday 07 February 2005 07:51 pm:

> Here is the fork from my T5, 258, 85 CJ7.
>
> http://www.t3e871.rchomepage.com/ngpics/t5fork.jpg
>

Mostly looks like mine. I'm going to have to pull it apart again, though,
as it has the wrong throwout bearing....
--
Michael White "To protect people from the effects of folly is to
fill the world with fools." -Herbert Spencer, 1891

Michael White

HomeBrewer (85cj7XXX@***.net) wrote on Monday 07 February 2005 07:51 pm:

> Here is the fork from my T5, 258, 85 CJ7.
>
> http://www.t3e871.rchomepage.com/ngpics/t5fork.jpg
>

Mostly looks like mine. I'm going to have to pull it apart again, though,
as it has the wrong throwout bearing....
--
Michael White "To protect people from the effects of folly is to
fill the world with fools." -Herbert Spencer, 1891