Wrangler - What to buy?
#101
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Re: Wrangler - What to buy?
"...there are only about
850 trucks registered at the maximum weight allowed by
Michigan law (160,000-164,000 pounds), which is less
than one out of every 350 trucks on the road."
-Excerpt from Michigan DOT paper
The local cops stopped at Michigan registered truck with 154,000 pounds of
rolled steel a few years ago on Sharon Road a few years back (4 lane
blacktop)
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> Hi Bill,
> Fortunately you don't have to drive a commercial truck. From page
> 44, #7 of: http://www.michigan.gov/documents/20...al_17888_7.pdf
> "In most cases, an overweight permit is required for weights exceeding
> 80,000 pounds."
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
>>
>> In Michigan the limit is 164,000 pounds with proper weight per axle
>> (13K-16K
>> pounds per axle)
850 trucks registered at the maximum weight allowed by
Michigan law (160,000-164,000 pounds), which is less
than one out of every 350 trucks on the road."
-Excerpt from Michigan DOT paper
The local cops stopped at Michigan registered truck with 154,000 pounds of
rolled steel a few years ago on Sharon Road a few years back (4 lane
blacktop)
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:438CE245.F4E8295E@***.net...
> Hi Bill,
> Fortunately you don't have to drive a commercial truck. From page
> 44, #7 of: http://www.michigan.gov/documents/20...al_17888_7.pdf
> "In most cases, an overweight permit is required for weights exceeding
> 80,000 pounds."
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
>>
>> In Michigan the limit is 164,000 pounds with proper weight per axle
>> (13K-16K
>> pounds per axle)
#102
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Re: Wrangler - What to buy?
"...there are only about
850 trucks registered at the maximum weight allowed by
Michigan law (160,000-164,000 pounds), which is less
than one out of every 350 trucks on the road."
-Excerpt from Michigan DOT paper
The local cops stopped at Michigan registered truck with 154,000 pounds of
rolled steel a few years ago on Sharon Road a few years back (4 lane
blacktop)
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:438CE245.F4E8295E@***.net...
> Hi Bill,
> Fortunately you don't have to drive a commercial truck. From page
> 44, #7 of: http://www.michigan.gov/documents/20...al_17888_7.pdf
> "In most cases, an overweight permit is required for weights exceeding
> 80,000 pounds."
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
>>
>> In Michigan the limit is 164,000 pounds with proper weight per axle
>> (13K-16K
>> pounds per axle)
850 trucks registered at the maximum weight allowed by
Michigan law (160,000-164,000 pounds), which is less
than one out of every 350 trucks on the road."
-Excerpt from Michigan DOT paper
The local cops stopped at Michigan registered truck with 154,000 pounds of
rolled steel a few years ago on Sharon Road a few years back (4 lane
blacktop)
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:438CE245.F4E8295E@***.net...
> Hi Bill,
> Fortunately you don't have to drive a commercial truck. From page
> 44, #7 of: http://www.michigan.gov/documents/20...al_17888_7.pdf
> "In most cases, an overweight permit is required for weights exceeding
> 80,000 pounds."
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
>>
>> In Michigan the limit is 164,000 pounds with proper weight per axle
>> (13K-16K
>> pounds per axle)
#103
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Re: Wrangler - What to buy?
"...there are only about
850 trucks registered at the maximum weight allowed by
Michigan law (160,000-164,000 pounds), which is less
than one out of every 350 trucks on the road."
-Excerpt from Michigan DOT paper
The local cops stopped at Michigan registered truck with 154,000 pounds of
rolled steel a few years ago on Sharon Road a few years back (4 lane
blacktop)
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:438CE245.F4E8295E@***.net...
> Hi Bill,
> Fortunately you don't have to drive a commercial truck. From page
> 44, #7 of: http://www.michigan.gov/documents/20...al_17888_7.pdf
> "In most cases, an overweight permit is required for weights exceeding
> 80,000 pounds."
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
>>
>> In Michigan the limit is 164,000 pounds with proper weight per axle
>> (13K-16K
>> pounds per axle)
850 trucks registered at the maximum weight allowed by
Michigan law (160,000-164,000 pounds), which is less
than one out of every 350 trucks on the road."
-Excerpt from Michigan DOT paper
The local cops stopped at Michigan registered truck with 154,000 pounds of
rolled steel a few years ago on Sharon Road a few years back (4 lane
blacktop)
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:438CE245.F4E8295E@***.net...
> Hi Bill,
> Fortunately you don't have to drive a commercial truck. From page
> 44, #7 of: http://www.michigan.gov/documents/20...al_17888_7.pdf
> "In most cases, an overweight permit is required for weights exceeding
> 80,000 pounds."
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
>>
>> In Michigan the limit is 164,000 pounds with proper weight per axle
>> (13K-16K
>> pounds per axle)
#104
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Re: Wrangler - What to buy?
They still must have to have a trip permit and pilot cars. With a
lowboy (numerous tires) and a Caterpillar every truck may be that
weight. I've had the Highway Patrol close bridges for me to cross.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Billy Ray wrote:
>
> "...there are only about
>
> 850 trucks registered at the maximum weight allowed by
>
> Michigan law (160,000-164,000 pounds), which is less
>
> than one out of every 350 trucks on the road."
>
> -Excerpt from Michigan DOT paper
>
> The local cops stopped at Michigan registered truck with 154,000 pounds of
> rolled steel a few years ago on Sharon Road a few years back (4 lane
> blacktop)
lowboy (numerous tires) and a Caterpillar every truck may be that
weight. I've had the Highway Patrol close bridges for me to cross.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Billy Ray wrote:
>
> "...there are only about
>
> 850 trucks registered at the maximum weight allowed by
>
> Michigan law (160,000-164,000 pounds), which is less
>
> than one out of every 350 trucks on the road."
>
> -Excerpt from Michigan DOT paper
>
> The local cops stopped at Michigan registered truck with 154,000 pounds of
> rolled steel a few years ago on Sharon Road a few years back (4 lane
> blacktop)
#105
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Re: Wrangler - What to buy?
They still must have to have a trip permit and pilot cars. With a
lowboy (numerous tires) and a Caterpillar every truck may be that
weight. I've had the Highway Patrol close bridges for me to cross.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Billy Ray wrote:
>
> "...there are only about
>
> 850 trucks registered at the maximum weight allowed by
>
> Michigan law (160,000-164,000 pounds), which is less
>
> than one out of every 350 trucks on the road."
>
> -Excerpt from Michigan DOT paper
>
> The local cops stopped at Michigan registered truck with 154,000 pounds of
> rolled steel a few years ago on Sharon Road a few years back (4 lane
> blacktop)
lowboy (numerous tires) and a Caterpillar every truck may be that
weight. I've had the Highway Patrol close bridges for me to cross.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Billy Ray wrote:
>
> "...there are only about
>
> 850 trucks registered at the maximum weight allowed by
>
> Michigan law (160,000-164,000 pounds), which is less
>
> than one out of every 350 trucks on the road."
>
> -Excerpt from Michigan DOT paper
>
> The local cops stopped at Michigan registered truck with 154,000 pounds of
> rolled steel a few years ago on Sharon Road a few years back (4 lane
> blacktop)
#106
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Re: Wrangler - What to buy?
They still must have to have a trip permit and pilot cars. With a
lowboy (numerous tires) and a Caterpillar every truck may be that
weight. I've had the Highway Patrol close bridges for me to cross.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Billy Ray wrote:
>
> "...there are only about
>
> 850 trucks registered at the maximum weight allowed by
>
> Michigan law (160,000-164,000 pounds), which is less
>
> than one out of every 350 trucks on the road."
>
> -Excerpt from Michigan DOT paper
>
> The local cops stopped at Michigan registered truck with 154,000 pounds of
> rolled steel a few years ago on Sharon Road a few years back (4 lane
> blacktop)
lowboy (numerous tires) and a Caterpillar every truck may be that
weight. I've had the Highway Patrol close bridges for me to cross.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Billy Ray wrote:
>
> "...there are only about
>
> 850 trucks registered at the maximum weight allowed by
>
> Michigan law (160,000-164,000 pounds), which is less
>
> than one out of every 350 trucks on the road."
>
> -Excerpt from Michigan DOT paper
>
> The local cops stopped at Michigan registered truck with 154,000 pounds of
> rolled steel a few years ago on Sharon Road a few years back (4 lane
> blacktop)
#107
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Re: Wrangler - What to buy?
I spent a couple of hours last winter watching 2 recovery trucks
double-headed trying to recover a 100 ton capacity mobile crane up a steep
hill. The crane weighed nearly 70 tons, and both recovery trucks had enough
power to spin their wheels and start bouncing.
Eventually the police cleared all the traffic on the road so they could have
a long run up - they managed to get to all of 15 mph by the time they hit
the bottom of the hill, but that was enough to make it.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:438CDE00.D3C20BCA@***.net...
> Hi Dave,
> I've forgotten what my tractor weighed dry. I once accidentally
> loaded that 97,000 gross with heavy water, and absolutely couldn't start
> off without lifting my front wheels off the ground and bouncing at least
> three times with a ten speed used on the flat lands of Texas:
> http://www.----------.com/kenworth.jpg Fortunately there were no scales
> in-between. http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/comlhdbk/comlhdbk.pdf
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > We have an all up weight of 44 metric tonnes ( 97,000 lb) for 6 axled
> > artics.
> > How much did your trucks + trailers weigh, Bill ?
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
double-headed trying to recover a 100 ton capacity mobile crane up a steep
hill. The crane weighed nearly 70 tons, and both recovery trucks had enough
power to spin their wheels and start bouncing.
Eventually the police cleared all the traffic on the road so they could have
a long run up - they managed to get to all of 15 mph by the time they hit
the bottom of the hill, but that was enough to make it.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:438CDE00.D3C20BCA@***.net...
> Hi Dave,
> I've forgotten what my tractor weighed dry. I once accidentally
> loaded that 97,000 gross with heavy water, and absolutely couldn't start
> off without lifting my front wheels off the ground and bouncing at least
> three times with a ten speed used on the flat lands of Texas:
> http://www.----------.com/kenworth.jpg Fortunately there were no scales
> in-between. http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/comlhdbk/comlhdbk.pdf
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > We have an all up weight of 44 metric tonnes ( 97,000 lb) for 6 axled
> > artics.
> > How much did your trucks + trailers weigh, Bill ?
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
#108
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Re: Wrangler - What to buy?
I spent a couple of hours last winter watching 2 recovery trucks
double-headed trying to recover a 100 ton capacity mobile crane up a steep
hill. The crane weighed nearly 70 tons, and both recovery trucks had enough
power to spin their wheels and start bouncing.
Eventually the police cleared all the traffic on the road so they could have
a long run up - they managed to get to all of 15 mph by the time they hit
the bottom of the hill, but that was enough to make it.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:438CDE00.D3C20BCA@***.net...
> Hi Dave,
> I've forgotten what my tractor weighed dry. I once accidentally
> loaded that 97,000 gross with heavy water, and absolutely couldn't start
> off without lifting my front wheels off the ground and bouncing at least
> three times with a ten speed used on the flat lands of Texas:
> http://www.----------.com/kenworth.jpg Fortunately there were no scales
> in-between. http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/comlhdbk/comlhdbk.pdf
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > We have an all up weight of 44 metric tonnes ( 97,000 lb) for 6 axled
> > artics.
> > How much did your trucks + trailers weigh, Bill ?
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
double-headed trying to recover a 100 ton capacity mobile crane up a steep
hill. The crane weighed nearly 70 tons, and both recovery trucks had enough
power to spin their wheels and start bouncing.
Eventually the police cleared all the traffic on the road so they could have
a long run up - they managed to get to all of 15 mph by the time they hit
the bottom of the hill, but that was enough to make it.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:438CDE00.D3C20BCA@***.net...
> Hi Dave,
> I've forgotten what my tractor weighed dry. I once accidentally
> loaded that 97,000 gross with heavy water, and absolutely couldn't start
> off without lifting my front wheels off the ground and bouncing at least
> three times with a ten speed used on the flat lands of Texas:
> http://www.----------.com/kenworth.jpg Fortunately there were no scales
> in-between. http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/comlhdbk/comlhdbk.pdf
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > We have an all up weight of 44 metric tonnes ( 97,000 lb) for 6 axled
> > artics.
> > How much did your trucks + trailers weigh, Bill ?
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
#109
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Re: Wrangler - What to buy?
I spent a couple of hours last winter watching 2 recovery trucks
double-headed trying to recover a 100 ton capacity mobile crane up a steep
hill. The crane weighed nearly 70 tons, and both recovery trucks had enough
power to spin their wheels and start bouncing.
Eventually the police cleared all the traffic on the road so they could have
a long run up - they managed to get to all of 15 mph by the time they hit
the bottom of the hill, but that was enough to make it.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:438CDE00.D3C20BCA@***.net...
> Hi Dave,
> I've forgotten what my tractor weighed dry. I once accidentally
> loaded that 97,000 gross with heavy water, and absolutely couldn't start
> off without lifting my front wheels off the ground and bouncing at least
> three times with a ten speed used on the flat lands of Texas:
> http://www.----------.com/kenworth.jpg Fortunately there were no scales
> in-between. http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/comlhdbk/comlhdbk.pdf
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > We have an all up weight of 44 metric tonnes ( 97,000 lb) for 6 axled
> > artics.
> > How much did your trucks + trailers weigh, Bill ?
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
double-headed trying to recover a 100 ton capacity mobile crane up a steep
hill. The crane weighed nearly 70 tons, and both recovery trucks had enough
power to spin their wheels and start bouncing.
Eventually the police cleared all the traffic on the road so they could have
a long run up - they managed to get to all of 15 mph by the time they hit
the bottom of the hill, but that was enough to make it.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:438CDE00.D3C20BCA@***.net...
> Hi Dave,
> I've forgotten what my tractor weighed dry. I once accidentally
> loaded that 97,000 gross with heavy water, and absolutely couldn't start
> off without lifting my front wheels off the ground and bouncing at least
> three times with a ten speed used on the flat lands of Texas:
> http://www.----------.com/kenworth.jpg Fortunately there were no scales
> in-between. http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/comlhdbk/comlhdbk.pdf
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > We have an all up weight of 44 metric tonnes ( 97,000 lb) for 6 axled
> > artics.
> > How much did your trucks + trailers weigh, Bill ?
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
#110
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Re: Wrangler - What to buy?
Which would explain why we have to rebuild our highways every three years.
"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:81929$438c9708$4831b233$13064@FUSE.NET...
> In Michigan the limit is 164,000 pounds with proper weight per axle
> (13K-16K pounds per axle)
>
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:Eu0jf.17994$Lw5.8782@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
>> We have an all up weight of 44 metric tonnes ( 97,000 lb) for 6 axled
>> artics.
>> How much did your trucks + trailers weigh, Bill ?
>>
>> Dave Milne, Scotland
>> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>>
>> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:438B6E42.F9D3C0F5@***.net...
>>> Yep, eighty thousand pounds, or forty tons is what the legal gross
>>> truck load limit, without special permits and pilot cars. The UK at
>>> least in Canada is weird on their gallons, too.
>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>
>>> Dave Milne wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Is there really 2000lb in a ton ? We have it at 2240 ( 20 x 1 hundred
>> weight
>>> > = 112 lb)
>>> >
>>> > Dave Milne, Scotland
>>> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>>
>>
>
>
"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:81929$438c9708$4831b233$13064@FUSE.NET...
> In Michigan the limit is 164,000 pounds with proper weight per axle
> (13K-16K pounds per axle)
>
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:Eu0jf.17994$Lw5.8782@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
>> We have an all up weight of 44 metric tonnes ( 97,000 lb) for 6 axled
>> artics.
>> How much did your trucks + trailers weigh, Bill ?
>>
>> Dave Milne, Scotland
>> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>>
>> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:438B6E42.F9D3C0F5@***.net...
>>> Yep, eighty thousand pounds, or forty tons is what the legal gross
>>> truck load limit, without special permits and pilot cars. The UK at
>>> least in Canada is weird on their gallons, too.
>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>
>>> Dave Milne wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Is there really 2000lb in a ton ? We have it at 2240 ( 20 x 1 hundred
>> weight
>>> > = 112 lb)
>>> >
>>> > Dave Milne, Scotland
>>> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>>
>>
>
>