wrangler transfer case grind in 4hi
07-27-2004, 08:30 AM
#31
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: wrangler transfer case grind in 4hi
True, neither of those situations where the grinding occurred
necessitated 4WD, but some other parts of the trail we were on did.
Besides that, I don't get a chance to use 4WD that often in my
daily-driving routine, so I try to make use of it when I can... if for
no other reason than to keep the parts functioning.
The only time I ever bound the transfer case was about a week after I
bought it, when I was more naive than I am now ;) - one jittery corner
on dry pave was enough to tell me that's a bad idea. Nothing broke
and I've done enough 4WD action to feel assured I did no real damage
to the system.
Do you think that could be even somewhat responsible for this? For as
quick as that bind was, and how well it's worked since then, I have
difficulty accepting that one jittery corner could be the cause of
this other issue... things just don't seem to fit, ya know?
Anyway, thanks for the thoughts! If you have any others, I'd love to
hear them...
Matt
David C. Moller <dmoller@verizon.net> wrote in message news:<efnbg0t59e50a116svf52g8m00j0dfjll7@4ax.com>. ..
> Hmmmmm not sure really. Hopefully some others will have some ideas.
> But, neither of the situations you mention below (smooth dirt road,
> 8-10 inches of water) would really warrant putting the Jeep in any 4
> wheel drive mode I don't think. Then again, I don't think either would
> hurt it. But you sure you haven't been binding the transfer case (i.e.
> running in 4x4 when there isn't enough tire slippage provided by the
> terrain)?
>
> Dave
> http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
>
> On 26 Jul 2004 08:01:09 -0700, mbs_1736@airpost.net (Matt) wrote:
>
> >Hi -
> >
> > I have a 2004 Wrangler X with about 6000 miles on it. I've done
> >some mild off-roading in the last year, but it's been a couple months
> >since my last time out. So I was out yesterday with a friend of mine
> >on some trails nearby, and while in 4HI for a while, just going along,
> >not doing anything fancy or crazy, I heard this really terrible
> >grinding sound coming from the transfer case... at least, it sounds
> >like it's coming from the transfer case.
> >
> > Well, I immediately put in the clutch and shifted from 4HI to 2HI
> >and back to 4HI again, gave it a little gas, no problem, and
> >everything was fine after that for a while. Then it did it again, and
> >a third time later in the day. Each time this occurred I was in 4HI.
> >
> > A couple times the grinding came when I was going through some 8-10"
> >deep water, and one time it happened while engine-braking down a
> >smooth, relatively steep dirt road in 2nd gear. I don't think the
> >water had anything to do with it, I *think* that was coincidence...
> >but maybe not?
> >
> > I looked underneath to see if there was any visible damage to the
> >underside, and I couldn't find even a scratch or dirt or anything to
> >indicate I'd rubbed ground. Nothing appears out of place, but I'm not
> >an expert, so I could have missed something. Anyway, I didn't get
> >hung up on anything so I doubt any kind of physical trauma is the
> >cause.
> >
> > The best I can guess is that somehow I slipped out of 4HI towards
> >2HI... is this possible? If possible, is it at all likely this was
> >the cause?
> >
> > So yeah, if anyone has any idea what could be causing this, I'd love
> >to know! I'm going to be bringing my jeep in for a regular checkup in
> >a week or two, and I'd like to know what I should tell them to check
> >to fix this problem.
> >
> >Thanks for the help!
> >
> >Matt
necessitated 4WD, but some other parts of the trail we were on did.
Besides that, I don't get a chance to use 4WD that often in my
daily-driving routine, so I try to make use of it when I can... if for
no other reason than to keep the parts functioning.
The only time I ever bound the transfer case was about a week after I
bought it, when I was more naive than I am now ;) - one jittery corner
on dry pave was enough to tell me that's a bad idea. Nothing broke
and I've done enough 4WD action to feel assured I did no real damage
to the system.
Do you think that could be even somewhat responsible for this? For as
quick as that bind was, and how well it's worked since then, I have
difficulty accepting that one jittery corner could be the cause of
this other issue... things just don't seem to fit, ya know?
Anyway, thanks for the thoughts! If you have any others, I'd love to
hear them...
Matt
David C. Moller <dmoller@verizon.net> wrote in message news:<efnbg0t59e50a116svf52g8m00j0dfjll7@4ax.com>. ..
> Hmmmmm not sure really. Hopefully some others will have some ideas.
> But, neither of the situations you mention below (smooth dirt road,
> 8-10 inches of water) would really warrant putting the Jeep in any 4
> wheel drive mode I don't think. Then again, I don't think either would
> hurt it. But you sure you haven't been binding the transfer case (i.e.
> running in 4x4 when there isn't enough tire slippage provided by the
> terrain)?
>
> Dave
> http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
>
> On 26 Jul 2004 08:01:09 -0700, mbs_1736@airpost.net (Matt) wrote:
>
> >Hi -
> >
> > I have a 2004 Wrangler X with about 6000 miles on it. I've done
> >some mild off-roading in the last year, but it's been a couple months
> >since my last time out. So I was out yesterday with a friend of mine
> >on some trails nearby, and while in 4HI for a while, just going along,
> >not doing anything fancy or crazy, I heard this really terrible
> >grinding sound coming from the transfer case... at least, it sounds
> >like it's coming from the transfer case.
> >
> > Well, I immediately put in the clutch and shifted from 4HI to 2HI
> >and back to 4HI again, gave it a little gas, no problem, and
> >everything was fine after that for a while. Then it did it again, and
> >a third time later in the day. Each time this occurred I was in 4HI.
> >
> > A couple times the grinding came when I was going through some 8-10"
> >deep water, and one time it happened while engine-braking down a
> >smooth, relatively steep dirt road in 2nd gear. I don't think the
> >water had anything to do with it, I *think* that was coincidence...
> >but maybe not?
> >
> > I looked underneath to see if there was any visible damage to the
> >underside, and I couldn't find even a scratch or dirt or anything to
> >indicate I'd rubbed ground. Nothing appears out of place, but I'm not
> >an expert, so I could have missed something. Anyway, I didn't get
> >hung up on anything so I doubt any kind of physical trauma is the
> >cause.
> >
> > The best I can guess is that somehow I slipped out of 4HI towards
> >2HI... is this possible? If possible, is it at all likely this was
> >the cause?
> >
> > So yeah, if anyone has any idea what could be causing this, I'd love
> >to know! I'm going to be bringing my jeep in for a regular checkup in
> >a week or two, and I'd like to know what I should tell them to check
> >to fix this problem.
> >
> >Thanks for the help!
> >
> >Matt
07-27-2004, 08:30 AM
#32
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: wrangler transfer case grind in 4hi
True, neither of those situations where the grinding occurred
necessitated 4WD, but some other parts of the trail we were on did.
Besides that, I don't get a chance to use 4WD that often in my
daily-driving routine, so I try to make use of it when I can... if for
no other reason than to keep the parts functioning.
The only time I ever bound the transfer case was about a week after I
bought it, when I was more naive than I am now ;) - one jittery corner
on dry pave was enough to tell me that's a bad idea. Nothing broke
and I've done enough 4WD action to feel assured I did no real damage
to the system.
Do you think that could be even somewhat responsible for this? For as
quick as that bind was, and how well it's worked since then, I have
difficulty accepting that one jittery corner could be the cause of
this other issue... things just don't seem to fit, ya know?
Anyway, thanks for the thoughts! If you have any others, I'd love to
hear them...
Matt
David C. Moller <dmoller@verizon.net> wrote in message news:<efnbg0t59e50a116svf52g8m00j0dfjll7@4ax.com>. ..
> Hmmmmm not sure really. Hopefully some others will have some ideas.
> But, neither of the situations you mention below (smooth dirt road,
> 8-10 inches of water) would really warrant putting the Jeep in any 4
> wheel drive mode I don't think. Then again, I don't think either would
> hurt it. But you sure you haven't been binding the transfer case (i.e.
> running in 4x4 when there isn't enough tire slippage provided by the
> terrain)?
>
> Dave
> http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
>
> On 26 Jul 2004 08:01:09 -0700, mbs_1736@airpost.net (Matt) wrote:
>
> >Hi -
> >
> > I have a 2004 Wrangler X with about 6000 miles on it. I've done
> >some mild off-roading in the last year, but it's been a couple months
> >since my last time out. So I was out yesterday with a friend of mine
> >on some trails nearby, and while in 4HI for a while, just going along,
> >not doing anything fancy or crazy, I heard this really terrible
> >grinding sound coming from the transfer case... at least, it sounds
> >like it's coming from the transfer case.
> >
> > Well, I immediately put in the clutch and shifted from 4HI to 2HI
> >and back to 4HI again, gave it a little gas, no problem, and
> >everything was fine after that for a while. Then it did it again, and
> >a third time later in the day. Each time this occurred I was in 4HI.
> >
> > A couple times the grinding came when I was going through some 8-10"
> >deep water, and one time it happened while engine-braking down a
> >smooth, relatively steep dirt road in 2nd gear. I don't think the
> >water had anything to do with it, I *think* that was coincidence...
> >but maybe not?
> >
> > I looked underneath to see if there was any visible damage to the
> >underside, and I couldn't find even a scratch or dirt or anything to
> >indicate I'd rubbed ground. Nothing appears out of place, but I'm not
> >an expert, so I could have missed something. Anyway, I didn't get
> >hung up on anything so I doubt any kind of physical trauma is the
> >cause.
> >
> > The best I can guess is that somehow I slipped out of 4HI towards
> >2HI... is this possible? If possible, is it at all likely this was
> >the cause?
> >
> > So yeah, if anyone has any idea what could be causing this, I'd love
> >to know! I'm going to be bringing my jeep in for a regular checkup in
> >a week or two, and I'd like to know what I should tell them to check
> >to fix this problem.
> >
> >Thanks for the help!
> >
> >Matt
necessitated 4WD, but some other parts of the trail we were on did.
Besides that, I don't get a chance to use 4WD that often in my
daily-driving routine, so I try to make use of it when I can... if for
no other reason than to keep the parts functioning.
The only time I ever bound the transfer case was about a week after I
bought it, when I was more naive than I am now ;) - one jittery corner
on dry pave was enough to tell me that's a bad idea. Nothing broke
and I've done enough 4WD action to feel assured I did no real damage
to the system.
Do you think that could be even somewhat responsible for this? For as
quick as that bind was, and how well it's worked since then, I have
difficulty accepting that one jittery corner could be the cause of
this other issue... things just don't seem to fit, ya know?
Anyway, thanks for the thoughts! If you have any others, I'd love to
hear them...
Matt
David C. Moller <dmoller@verizon.net> wrote in message news:<efnbg0t59e50a116svf52g8m00j0dfjll7@4ax.com>. ..
> Hmmmmm not sure really. Hopefully some others will have some ideas.
> But, neither of the situations you mention below (smooth dirt road,
> 8-10 inches of water) would really warrant putting the Jeep in any 4
> wheel drive mode I don't think. Then again, I don't think either would
> hurt it. But you sure you haven't been binding the transfer case (i.e.
> running in 4x4 when there isn't enough tire slippage provided by the
> terrain)?
>
> Dave
> http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
>
> On 26 Jul 2004 08:01:09 -0700, mbs_1736@airpost.net (Matt) wrote:
>
> >Hi -
> >
> > I have a 2004 Wrangler X with about 6000 miles on it. I've done
> >some mild off-roading in the last year, but it's been a couple months
> >since my last time out. So I was out yesterday with a friend of mine
> >on some trails nearby, and while in 4HI for a while, just going along,
> >not doing anything fancy or crazy, I heard this really terrible
> >grinding sound coming from the transfer case... at least, it sounds
> >like it's coming from the transfer case.
> >
> > Well, I immediately put in the clutch and shifted from 4HI to 2HI
> >and back to 4HI again, gave it a little gas, no problem, and
> >everything was fine after that for a while. Then it did it again, and
> >a third time later in the day. Each time this occurred I was in 4HI.
> >
> > A couple times the grinding came when I was going through some 8-10"
> >deep water, and one time it happened while engine-braking down a
> >smooth, relatively steep dirt road in 2nd gear. I don't think the
> >water had anything to do with it, I *think* that was coincidence...
> >but maybe not?
> >
> > I looked underneath to see if there was any visible damage to the
> >underside, and I couldn't find even a scratch or dirt or anything to
> >indicate I'd rubbed ground. Nothing appears out of place, but I'm not
> >an expert, so I could have missed something. Anyway, I didn't get
> >hung up on anything so I doubt any kind of physical trauma is the
> >cause.
> >
> > The best I can guess is that somehow I slipped out of 4HI towards
> >2HI... is this possible? If possible, is it at all likely this was
> >the cause?
> >
> > So yeah, if anyone has any idea what could be causing this, I'd love
> >to know! I'm going to be bringing my jeep in for a regular checkup in
> >a week or two, and I'd like to know what I should tell them to check
> >to fix this problem.
> >
> >Thanks for the help!
> >
> >Matt
07-27-2004, 08:30 AM
#33
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: wrangler transfer case grind in 4hi
True, neither of those situations where the grinding occurred
necessitated 4WD, but some other parts of the trail we were on did.
Besides that, I don't get a chance to use 4WD that often in my
daily-driving routine, so I try to make use of it when I can... if for
no other reason than to keep the parts functioning.
The only time I ever bound the transfer case was about a week after I
bought it, when I was more naive than I am now ;) - one jittery corner
on dry pave was enough to tell me that's a bad idea. Nothing broke
and I've done enough 4WD action to feel assured I did no real damage
to the system.
Do you think that could be even somewhat responsible for this? For as
quick as that bind was, and how well it's worked since then, I have
difficulty accepting that one jittery corner could be the cause of
this other issue... things just don't seem to fit, ya know?
Anyway, thanks for the thoughts! If you have any others, I'd love to
hear them...
Matt
David C. Moller <dmoller@verizon.net> wrote in message news:<efnbg0t59e50a116svf52g8m00j0dfjll7@4ax.com>. ..
> Hmmmmm not sure really. Hopefully some others will have some ideas.
> But, neither of the situations you mention below (smooth dirt road,
> 8-10 inches of water) would really warrant putting the Jeep in any 4
> wheel drive mode I don't think. Then again, I don't think either would
> hurt it. But you sure you haven't been binding the transfer case (i.e.
> running in 4x4 when there isn't enough tire slippage provided by the
> terrain)?
>
> Dave
> http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
>
> On 26 Jul 2004 08:01:09 -0700, mbs_1736@airpost.net (Matt) wrote:
>
> >Hi -
> >
> > I have a 2004 Wrangler X with about 6000 miles on it. I've done
> >some mild off-roading in the last year, but it's been a couple months
> >since my last time out. So I was out yesterday with a friend of mine
> >on some trails nearby, and while in 4HI for a while, just going along,
> >not doing anything fancy or crazy, I heard this really terrible
> >grinding sound coming from the transfer case... at least, it sounds
> >like it's coming from the transfer case.
> >
> > Well, I immediately put in the clutch and shifted from 4HI to 2HI
> >and back to 4HI again, gave it a little gas, no problem, and
> >everything was fine after that for a while. Then it did it again, and
> >a third time later in the day. Each time this occurred I was in 4HI.
> >
> > A couple times the grinding came when I was going through some 8-10"
> >deep water, and one time it happened while engine-braking down a
> >smooth, relatively steep dirt road in 2nd gear. I don't think the
> >water had anything to do with it, I *think* that was coincidence...
> >but maybe not?
> >
> > I looked underneath to see if there was any visible damage to the
> >underside, and I couldn't find even a scratch or dirt or anything to
> >indicate I'd rubbed ground. Nothing appears out of place, but I'm not
> >an expert, so I could have missed something. Anyway, I didn't get
> >hung up on anything so I doubt any kind of physical trauma is the
> >cause.
> >
> > The best I can guess is that somehow I slipped out of 4HI towards
> >2HI... is this possible? If possible, is it at all likely this was
> >the cause?
> >
> > So yeah, if anyone has any idea what could be causing this, I'd love
> >to know! I'm going to be bringing my jeep in for a regular checkup in
> >a week or two, and I'd like to know what I should tell them to check
> >to fix this problem.
> >
> >Thanks for the help!
> >
> >Matt
necessitated 4WD, but some other parts of the trail we were on did.
Besides that, I don't get a chance to use 4WD that often in my
daily-driving routine, so I try to make use of it when I can... if for
no other reason than to keep the parts functioning.
The only time I ever bound the transfer case was about a week after I
bought it, when I was more naive than I am now ;) - one jittery corner
on dry pave was enough to tell me that's a bad idea. Nothing broke
and I've done enough 4WD action to feel assured I did no real damage
to the system.
Do you think that could be even somewhat responsible for this? For as
quick as that bind was, and how well it's worked since then, I have
difficulty accepting that one jittery corner could be the cause of
this other issue... things just don't seem to fit, ya know?
Anyway, thanks for the thoughts! If you have any others, I'd love to
hear them...
Matt
David C. Moller <dmoller@verizon.net> wrote in message news:<efnbg0t59e50a116svf52g8m00j0dfjll7@4ax.com>. ..
> Hmmmmm not sure really. Hopefully some others will have some ideas.
> But, neither of the situations you mention below (smooth dirt road,
> 8-10 inches of water) would really warrant putting the Jeep in any 4
> wheel drive mode I don't think. Then again, I don't think either would
> hurt it. But you sure you haven't been binding the transfer case (i.e.
> running in 4x4 when there isn't enough tire slippage provided by the
> terrain)?
>
> Dave
> http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
>
> On 26 Jul 2004 08:01:09 -0700, mbs_1736@airpost.net (Matt) wrote:
>
> >Hi -
> >
> > I have a 2004 Wrangler X with about 6000 miles on it. I've done
> >some mild off-roading in the last year, but it's been a couple months
> >since my last time out. So I was out yesterday with a friend of mine
> >on some trails nearby, and while in 4HI for a while, just going along,
> >not doing anything fancy or crazy, I heard this really terrible
> >grinding sound coming from the transfer case... at least, it sounds
> >like it's coming from the transfer case.
> >
> > Well, I immediately put in the clutch and shifted from 4HI to 2HI
> >and back to 4HI again, gave it a little gas, no problem, and
> >everything was fine after that for a while. Then it did it again, and
> >a third time later in the day. Each time this occurred I was in 4HI.
> >
> > A couple times the grinding came when I was going through some 8-10"
> >deep water, and one time it happened while engine-braking down a
> >smooth, relatively steep dirt road in 2nd gear. I don't think the
> >water had anything to do with it, I *think* that was coincidence...
> >but maybe not?
> >
> > I looked underneath to see if there was any visible damage to the
> >underside, and I couldn't find even a scratch or dirt or anything to
> >indicate I'd rubbed ground. Nothing appears out of place, but I'm not
> >an expert, so I could have missed something. Anyway, I didn't get
> >hung up on anything so I doubt any kind of physical trauma is the
> >cause.
> >
> > The best I can guess is that somehow I slipped out of 4HI towards
> >2HI... is this possible? If possible, is it at all likely this was
> >the cause?
> >
> > So yeah, if anyone has any idea what could be causing this, I'd love
> >to know! I'm going to be bringing my jeep in for a regular checkup in
> >a week or two, and I'd like to know what I should tell them to check
> >to fix this problem.
> >
> >Thanks for the help!
> >
> >Matt
07-27-2004, 11:20 AM
#34
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: wrangler transfer case grind in 4hi
Naw, I don't think that's it then. Doubt that one time woulda hurt it.
It was just the only thought.I had. :)
Dave
On 27 Jul 2004 05:30:21 -0700, mbs_1736@airpost.net (Matt) wrote:
>True, neither of those situations where the grinding occurred
>necessitated 4WD, but some other parts of the trail we were on did.
>Besides that, I don't get a chance to use 4WD that often in my
>daily-driving routine, so I try to make use of it when I can... if for
>no other reason than to keep the parts functioning.
>
>The only time I ever bound the transfer case was about a week after I
>bought it, when I was more naive than I am now ;) - one jittery corner
>on dry pave was enough to tell me that's a bad idea. Nothing broke
>and I've done enough 4WD action to feel assured I did no real damage
>to the system.
>
>Do you think that could be even somewhat responsible for this? For as
>quick as that bind was, and how well it's worked since then, I have
>difficulty accepting that one jittery corner could be the cause of
>this other issue... things just don't seem to fit, ya know?
>
>Anyway, thanks for the thoughts! If you have any others, I'd love to
>hear them...
>
>Matt
>
>David C. Moller <dmoller@verizon.net> wrote in message news:<efnbg0t59e50a116svf52g8m00j0dfjll7@4ax.com>. ..
>> Hmmmmm not sure really. Hopefully some others will have some ideas.
>> But, neither of the situations you mention below (smooth dirt road,
>> 8-10 inches of water) would really warrant putting the Jeep in any 4
>> wheel drive mode I don't think. Then again, I don't think either would
>> hurt it. But you sure you haven't been binding the transfer case (i.e.
>> running in 4x4 when there isn't enough tire slippage provided by the
>> terrain)?
>>
>> Dave
>> http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
>>
>> On 26 Jul 2004 08:01:09 -0700, mbs_1736@airpost.net (Matt) wrote:
>>
>> >Hi -
>> >
>> > I have a 2004 Wrangler X with about 6000 miles on it. I've done
>> >some mild off-roading in the last year, but it's been a couple months
>> >since my last time out. So I was out yesterday with a friend of mine
>> >on some trails nearby, and while in 4HI for a while, just going along,
>> >not doing anything fancy or crazy, I heard this really terrible
>> >grinding sound coming from the transfer case... at least, it sounds
>> >like it's coming from the transfer case.
>> >
>> > Well, I immediately put in the clutch and shifted from 4HI to 2HI
>> >and back to 4HI again, gave it a little gas, no problem, and
>> >everything was fine after that for a while. Then it did it again, and
>> >a third time later in the day. Each time this occurred I was in 4HI.
>> >
>> > A couple times the grinding came when I was going through some 8-10"
>> >deep water, and one time it happened while engine-braking down a
>> >smooth, relatively steep dirt road in 2nd gear. I don't think the
>> >water had anything to do with it, I *think* that was coincidence...
>> >but maybe not?
>> >
>> > I looked underneath to see if there was any visible damage to the
>> >underside, and I couldn't find even a scratch or dirt or anything to
>> >indicate I'd rubbed ground. Nothing appears out of place, but I'm not
>> >an expert, so I could have missed something. Anyway, I didn't get
>> >hung up on anything so I doubt any kind of physical trauma is the
>> >cause.
>> >
>> > The best I can guess is that somehow I slipped out of 4HI towards
>> >2HI... is this possible? If possible, is it at all likely this was
>> >the cause?
>> >
>> > So yeah, if anyone has any idea what could be causing this, I'd love
>> >to know! I'm going to be bringing my jeep in for a regular checkup in
>> >a week or two, and I'd like to know what I should tell them to check
>> >to fix this problem.
>> >
>> >Thanks for the help!
>> >
>> >Matt
It was just the only thought.I had. :)
Dave
On 27 Jul 2004 05:30:21 -0700, mbs_1736@airpost.net (Matt) wrote:
>True, neither of those situations where the grinding occurred
>necessitated 4WD, but some other parts of the trail we were on did.
>Besides that, I don't get a chance to use 4WD that often in my
>daily-driving routine, so I try to make use of it when I can... if for
>no other reason than to keep the parts functioning.
>
>The only time I ever bound the transfer case was about a week after I
>bought it, when I was more naive than I am now ;) - one jittery corner
>on dry pave was enough to tell me that's a bad idea. Nothing broke
>and I've done enough 4WD action to feel assured I did no real damage
>to the system.
>
>Do you think that could be even somewhat responsible for this? For as
>quick as that bind was, and how well it's worked since then, I have
>difficulty accepting that one jittery corner could be the cause of
>this other issue... things just don't seem to fit, ya know?
>
>Anyway, thanks for the thoughts! If you have any others, I'd love to
>hear them...
>
>Matt
>
>David C. Moller <dmoller@verizon.net> wrote in message news:<efnbg0t59e50a116svf52g8m00j0dfjll7@4ax.com>. ..
>> Hmmmmm not sure really. Hopefully some others will have some ideas.
>> But, neither of the situations you mention below (smooth dirt road,
>> 8-10 inches of water) would really warrant putting the Jeep in any 4
>> wheel drive mode I don't think. Then again, I don't think either would
>> hurt it. But you sure you haven't been binding the transfer case (i.e.
>> running in 4x4 when there isn't enough tire slippage provided by the
>> terrain)?
>>
>> Dave
>> http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
>>
>> On 26 Jul 2004 08:01:09 -0700, mbs_1736@airpost.net (Matt) wrote:
>>
>> >Hi -
>> >
>> > I have a 2004 Wrangler X with about 6000 miles on it. I've done
>> >some mild off-roading in the last year, but it's been a couple months
>> >since my last time out. So I was out yesterday with a friend of mine
>> >on some trails nearby, and while in 4HI for a while, just going along,
>> >not doing anything fancy or crazy, I heard this really terrible
>> >grinding sound coming from the transfer case... at least, it sounds
>> >like it's coming from the transfer case.
>> >
>> > Well, I immediately put in the clutch and shifted from 4HI to 2HI
>> >and back to 4HI again, gave it a little gas, no problem, and
>> >everything was fine after that for a while. Then it did it again, and
>> >a third time later in the day. Each time this occurred I was in 4HI.
>> >
>> > A couple times the grinding came when I was going through some 8-10"
>> >deep water, and one time it happened while engine-braking down a
>> >smooth, relatively steep dirt road in 2nd gear. I don't think the
>> >water had anything to do with it, I *think* that was coincidence...
>> >but maybe not?
>> >
>> > I looked underneath to see if there was any visible damage to the
>> >underside, and I couldn't find even a scratch or dirt or anything to
>> >indicate I'd rubbed ground. Nothing appears out of place, but I'm not
>> >an expert, so I could have missed something. Anyway, I didn't get
>> >hung up on anything so I doubt any kind of physical trauma is the
>> >cause.
>> >
>> > The best I can guess is that somehow I slipped out of 4HI towards
>> >2HI... is this possible? If possible, is it at all likely this was
>> >the cause?
>> >
>> > So yeah, if anyone has any idea what could be causing this, I'd love
>> >to know! I'm going to be bringing my jeep in for a regular checkup in
>> >a week or two, and I'd like to know what I should tell them to check
>> >to fix this problem.
>> >
>> >Thanks for the help!
>> >
>> >Matt
07-27-2004, 11:20 AM
#35
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: wrangler transfer case grind in 4hi
Naw, I don't think that's it then. Doubt that one time woulda hurt it.
It was just the only thought.I had. :)
Dave
On 27 Jul 2004 05:30:21 -0700, mbs_1736@airpost.net (Matt) wrote:
>True, neither of those situations where the grinding occurred
>necessitated 4WD, but some other parts of the trail we were on did.
>Besides that, I don't get a chance to use 4WD that often in my
>daily-driving routine, so I try to make use of it when I can... if for
>no other reason than to keep the parts functioning.
>
>The only time I ever bound the transfer case was about a week after I
>bought it, when I was more naive than I am now ;) - one jittery corner
>on dry pave was enough to tell me that's a bad idea. Nothing broke
>and I've done enough 4WD action to feel assured I did no real damage
>to the system.
>
>Do you think that could be even somewhat responsible for this? For as
>quick as that bind was, and how well it's worked since then, I have
>difficulty accepting that one jittery corner could be the cause of
>this other issue... things just don't seem to fit, ya know?
>
>Anyway, thanks for the thoughts! If you have any others, I'd love to
>hear them...
>
>Matt
>
>David C. Moller <dmoller@verizon.net> wrote in message news:<efnbg0t59e50a116svf52g8m00j0dfjll7@4ax.com>. ..
>> Hmmmmm not sure really. Hopefully some others will have some ideas.
>> But, neither of the situations you mention below (smooth dirt road,
>> 8-10 inches of water) would really warrant putting the Jeep in any 4
>> wheel drive mode I don't think. Then again, I don't think either would
>> hurt it. But you sure you haven't been binding the transfer case (i.e.
>> running in 4x4 when there isn't enough tire slippage provided by the
>> terrain)?
>>
>> Dave
>> http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
>>
>> On 26 Jul 2004 08:01:09 -0700, mbs_1736@airpost.net (Matt) wrote:
>>
>> >Hi -
>> >
>> > I have a 2004 Wrangler X with about 6000 miles on it. I've done
>> >some mild off-roading in the last year, but it's been a couple months
>> >since my last time out. So I was out yesterday with a friend of mine
>> >on some trails nearby, and while in 4HI for a while, just going along,
>> >not doing anything fancy or crazy, I heard this really terrible
>> >grinding sound coming from the transfer case... at least, it sounds
>> >like it's coming from the transfer case.
>> >
>> > Well, I immediately put in the clutch and shifted from 4HI to 2HI
>> >and back to 4HI again, gave it a little gas, no problem, and
>> >everything was fine after that for a while. Then it did it again, and
>> >a third time later in the day. Each time this occurred I was in 4HI.
>> >
>> > A couple times the grinding came when I was going through some 8-10"
>> >deep water, and one time it happened while engine-braking down a
>> >smooth, relatively steep dirt road in 2nd gear. I don't think the
>> >water had anything to do with it, I *think* that was coincidence...
>> >but maybe not?
>> >
>> > I looked underneath to see if there was any visible damage to the
>> >underside, and I couldn't find even a scratch or dirt or anything to
>> >indicate I'd rubbed ground. Nothing appears out of place, but I'm not
>> >an expert, so I could have missed something. Anyway, I didn't get
>> >hung up on anything so I doubt any kind of physical trauma is the
>> >cause.
>> >
>> > The best I can guess is that somehow I slipped out of 4HI towards
>> >2HI... is this possible? If possible, is it at all likely this was
>> >the cause?
>> >
>> > So yeah, if anyone has any idea what could be causing this, I'd love
>> >to know! I'm going to be bringing my jeep in for a regular checkup in
>> >a week or two, and I'd like to know what I should tell them to check
>> >to fix this problem.
>> >
>> >Thanks for the help!
>> >
>> >Matt
It was just the only thought.I had. :)
Dave
On 27 Jul 2004 05:30:21 -0700, mbs_1736@airpost.net (Matt) wrote:
>True, neither of those situations where the grinding occurred
>necessitated 4WD, but some other parts of the trail we were on did.
>Besides that, I don't get a chance to use 4WD that often in my
>daily-driving routine, so I try to make use of it when I can... if for
>no other reason than to keep the parts functioning.
>
>The only time I ever bound the transfer case was about a week after I
>bought it, when I was more naive than I am now ;) - one jittery corner
>on dry pave was enough to tell me that's a bad idea. Nothing broke
>and I've done enough 4WD action to feel assured I did no real damage
>to the system.
>
>Do you think that could be even somewhat responsible for this? For as
>quick as that bind was, and how well it's worked since then, I have
>difficulty accepting that one jittery corner could be the cause of
>this other issue... things just don't seem to fit, ya know?
>
>Anyway, thanks for the thoughts! If you have any others, I'd love to
>hear them...
>
>Matt
>
>David C. Moller <dmoller@verizon.net> wrote in message news:<efnbg0t59e50a116svf52g8m00j0dfjll7@4ax.com>. ..
>> Hmmmmm not sure really. Hopefully some others will have some ideas.
>> But, neither of the situations you mention below (smooth dirt road,
>> 8-10 inches of water) would really warrant putting the Jeep in any 4
>> wheel drive mode I don't think. Then again, I don't think either would
>> hurt it. But you sure you haven't been binding the transfer case (i.e.
>> running in 4x4 when there isn't enough tire slippage provided by the
>> terrain)?
>>
>> Dave
>> http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
>>
>> On 26 Jul 2004 08:01:09 -0700, mbs_1736@airpost.net (Matt) wrote:
>>
>> >Hi -
>> >
>> > I have a 2004 Wrangler X with about 6000 miles on it. I've done
>> >some mild off-roading in the last year, but it's been a couple months
>> >since my last time out. So I was out yesterday with a friend of mine
>> >on some trails nearby, and while in 4HI for a while, just going along,
>> >not doing anything fancy or crazy, I heard this really terrible
>> >grinding sound coming from the transfer case... at least, it sounds
>> >like it's coming from the transfer case.
>> >
>> > Well, I immediately put in the clutch and shifted from 4HI to 2HI
>> >and back to 4HI again, gave it a little gas, no problem, and
>> >everything was fine after that for a while. Then it did it again, and
>> >a third time later in the day. Each time this occurred I was in 4HI.
>> >
>> > A couple times the grinding came when I was going through some 8-10"
>> >deep water, and one time it happened while engine-braking down a
>> >smooth, relatively steep dirt road in 2nd gear. I don't think the
>> >water had anything to do with it, I *think* that was coincidence...
>> >but maybe not?
>> >
>> > I looked underneath to see if there was any visible damage to the
>> >underside, and I couldn't find even a scratch or dirt or anything to
>> >indicate I'd rubbed ground. Nothing appears out of place, but I'm not
>> >an expert, so I could have missed something. Anyway, I didn't get
>> >hung up on anything so I doubt any kind of physical trauma is the
>> >cause.
>> >
>> > The best I can guess is that somehow I slipped out of 4HI towards
>> >2HI... is this possible? If possible, is it at all likely this was
>> >the cause?
>> >
>> > So yeah, if anyone has any idea what could be causing this, I'd love
>> >to know! I'm going to be bringing my jeep in for a regular checkup in
>> >a week or two, and I'd like to know what I should tell them to check
>> >to fix this problem.
>> >
>> >Thanks for the help!
>> >
>> >Matt
07-27-2004, 11:20 AM
#36
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: wrangler transfer case grind in 4hi
Naw, I don't think that's it then. Doubt that one time woulda hurt it.
It was just the only thought.I had. :)
Dave
On 27 Jul 2004 05:30:21 -0700, mbs_1736@airpost.net (Matt) wrote:
>True, neither of those situations where the grinding occurred
>necessitated 4WD, but some other parts of the trail we were on did.
>Besides that, I don't get a chance to use 4WD that often in my
>daily-driving routine, so I try to make use of it when I can... if for
>no other reason than to keep the parts functioning.
>
>The only time I ever bound the transfer case was about a week after I
>bought it, when I was more naive than I am now ;) - one jittery corner
>on dry pave was enough to tell me that's a bad idea. Nothing broke
>and I've done enough 4WD action to feel assured I did no real damage
>to the system.
>
>Do you think that could be even somewhat responsible for this? For as
>quick as that bind was, and how well it's worked since then, I have
>difficulty accepting that one jittery corner could be the cause of
>this other issue... things just don't seem to fit, ya know?
>
>Anyway, thanks for the thoughts! If you have any others, I'd love to
>hear them...
>
>Matt
>
>David C. Moller <dmoller@verizon.net> wrote in message news:<efnbg0t59e50a116svf52g8m00j0dfjll7@4ax.com>. ..
>> Hmmmmm not sure really. Hopefully some others will have some ideas.
>> But, neither of the situations you mention below (smooth dirt road,
>> 8-10 inches of water) would really warrant putting the Jeep in any 4
>> wheel drive mode I don't think. Then again, I don't think either would
>> hurt it. But you sure you haven't been binding the transfer case (i.e.
>> running in 4x4 when there isn't enough tire slippage provided by the
>> terrain)?
>>
>> Dave
>> http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
>>
>> On 26 Jul 2004 08:01:09 -0700, mbs_1736@airpost.net (Matt) wrote:
>>
>> >Hi -
>> >
>> > I have a 2004 Wrangler X with about 6000 miles on it. I've done
>> >some mild off-roading in the last year, but it's been a couple months
>> >since my last time out. So I was out yesterday with a friend of mine
>> >on some trails nearby, and while in 4HI for a while, just going along,
>> >not doing anything fancy or crazy, I heard this really terrible
>> >grinding sound coming from the transfer case... at least, it sounds
>> >like it's coming from the transfer case.
>> >
>> > Well, I immediately put in the clutch and shifted from 4HI to 2HI
>> >and back to 4HI again, gave it a little gas, no problem, and
>> >everything was fine after that for a while. Then it did it again, and
>> >a third time later in the day. Each time this occurred I was in 4HI.
>> >
>> > A couple times the grinding came when I was going through some 8-10"
>> >deep water, and one time it happened while engine-braking down a
>> >smooth, relatively steep dirt road in 2nd gear. I don't think the
>> >water had anything to do with it, I *think* that was coincidence...
>> >but maybe not?
>> >
>> > I looked underneath to see if there was any visible damage to the
>> >underside, and I couldn't find even a scratch or dirt or anything to
>> >indicate I'd rubbed ground. Nothing appears out of place, but I'm not
>> >an expert, so I could have missed something. Anyway, I didn't get
>> >hung up on anything so I doubt any kind of physical trauma is the
>> >cause.
>> >
>> > The best I can guess is that somehow I slipped out of 4HI towards
>> >2HI... is this possible? If possible, is it at all likely this was
>> >the cause?
>> >
>> > So yeah, if anyone has any idea what could be causing this, I'd love
>> >to know! I'm going to be bringing my jeep in for a regular checkup in
>> >a week or two, and I'd like to know what I should tell them to check
>> >to fix this problem.
>> >
>> >Thanks for the help!
>> >
>> >Matt
It was just the only thought.I had. :)
Dave
On 27 Jul 2004 05:30:21 -0700, mbs_1736@airpost.net (Matt) wrote:
>True, neither of those situations where the grinding occurred
>necessitated 4WD, but some other parts of the trail we were on did.
>Besides that, I don't get a chance to use 4WD that often in my
>daily-driving routine, so I try to make use of it when I can... if for
>no other reason than to keep the parts functioning.
>
>The only time I ever bound the transfer case was about a week after I
>bought it, when I was more naive than I am now ;) - one jittery corner
>on dry pave was enough to tell me that's a bad idea. Nothing broke
>and I've done enough 4WD action to feel assured I did no real damage
>to the system.
>
>Do you think that could be even somewhat responsible for this? For as
>quick as that bind was, and how well it's worked since then, I have
>difficulty accepting that one jittery corner could be the cause of
>this other issue... things just don't seem to fit, ya know?
>
>Anyway, thanks for the thoughts! If you have any others, I'd love to
>hear them...
>
>Matt
>
>David C. Moller <dmoller@verizon.net> wrote in message news:<efnbg0t59e50a116svf52g8m00j0dfjll7@4ax.com>. ..
>> Hmmmmm not sure really. Hopefully some others will have some ideas.
>> But, neither of the situations you mention below (smooth dirt road,
>> 8-10 inches of water) would really warrant putting the Jeep in any 4
>> wheel drive mode I don't think. Then again, I don't think either would
>> hurt it. But you sure you haven't been binding the transfer case (i.e.
>> running in 4x4 when there isn't enough tire slippage provided by the
>> terrain)?
>>
>> Dave
>> http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
>>
>> On 26 Jul 2004 08:01:09 -0700, mbs_1736@airpost.net (Matt) wrote:
>>
>> >Hi -
>> >
>> > I have a 2004 Wrangler X with about 6000 miles on it. I've done
>> >some mild off-roading in the last year, but it's been a couple months
>> >since my last time out. So I was out yesterday with a friend of mine
>> >on some trails nearby, and while in 4HI for a while, just going along,
>> >not doing anything fancy or crazy, I heard this really terrible
>> >grinding sound coming from the transfer case... at least, it sounds
>> >like it's coming from the transfer case.
>> >
>> > Well, I immediately put in the clutch and shifted from 4HI to 2HI
>> >and back to 4HI again, gave it a little gas, no problem, and
>> >everything was fine after that for a while. Then it did it again, and
>> >a third time later in the day. Each time this occurred I was in 4HI.
>> >
>> > A couple times the grinding came when I was going through some 8-10"
>> >deep water, and one time it happened while engine-braking down a
>> >smooth, relatively steep dirt road in 2nd gear. I don't think the
>> >water had anything to do with it, I *think* that was coincidence...
>> >but maybe not?
>> >
>> > I looked underneath to see if there was any visible damage to the
>> >underside, and I couldn't find even a scratch or dirt or anything to
>> >indicate I'd rubbed ground. Nothing appears out of place, but I'm not
>> >an expert, so I could have missed something. Anyway, I didn't get
>> >hung up on anything so I doubt any kind of physical trauma is the
>> >cause.
>> >
>> > The best I can guess is that somehow I slipped out of 4HI towards
>> >2HI... is this possible? If possible, is it at all likely this was
>> >the cause?
>> >
>> > So yeah, if anyone has any idea what could be causing this, I'd love
>> >to know! I'm going to be bringing my jeep in for a regular checkup in
>> >a week or two, and I'd like to know what I should tell them to check
>> >to fix this problem.
>> >
>> >Thanks for the help!
>> >
>> >Matt
07-27-2004, 11:20 AM
#37
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: wrangler transfer case grind in 4hi
Naw, I don't think that's it then. Doubt that one time woulda hurt it.
It was just the only thought.I had. :)
Dave
On 27 Jul 2004 05:30:21 -0700, mbs_1736@airpost.net (Matt) wrote:
>True, neither of those situations where the grinding occurred
>necessitated 4WD, but some other parts of the trail we were on did.
>Besides that, I don't get a chance to use 4WD that often in my
>daily-driving routine, so I try to make use of it when I can... if for
>no other reason than to keep the parts functioning.
>
>The only time I ever bound the transfer case was about a week after I
>bought it, when I was more naive than I am now ;) - one jittery corner
>on dry pave was enough to tell me that's a bad idea. Nothing broke
>and I've done enough 4WD action to feel assured I did no real damage
>to the system.
>
>Do you think that could be even somewhat responsible for this? For as
>quick as that bind was, and how well it's worked since then, I have
>difficulty accepting that one jittery corner could be the cause of
>this other issue... things just don't seem to fit, ya know?
>
>Anyway, thanks for the thoughts! If you have any others, I'd love to
>hear them...
>
>Matt
>
>David C. Moller <dmoller@verizon.net> wrote in message news:<efnbg0t59e50a116svf52g8m00j0dfjll7@4ax.com>. ..
>> Hmmmmm not sure really. Hopefully some others will have some ideas.
>> But, neither of the situations you mention below (smooth dirt road,
>> 8-10 inches of water) would really warrant putting the Jeep in any 4
>> wheel drive mode I don't think. Then again, I don't think either would
>> hurt it. But you sure you haven't been binding the transfer case (i.e.
>> running in 4x4 when there isn't enough tire slippage provided by the
>> terrain)?
>>
>> Dave
>> http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
>>
>> On 26 Jul 2004 08:01:09 -0700, mbs_1736@airpost.net (Matt) wrote:
>>
>> >Hi -
>> >
>> > I have a 2004 Wrangler X with about 6000 miles on it. I've done
>> >some mild off-roading in the last year, but it's been a couple months
>> >since my last time out. So I was out yesterday with a friend of mine
>> >on some trails nearby, and while in 4HI for a while, just going along,
>> >not doing anything fancy or crazy, I heard this really terrible
>> >grinding sound coming from the transfer case... at least, it sounds
>> >like it's coming from the transfer case.
>> >
>> > Well, I immediately put in the clutch and shifted from 4HI to 2HI
>> >and back to 4HI again, gave it a little gas, no problem, and
>> >everything was fine after that for a while. Then it did it again, and
>> >a third time later in the day. Each time this occurred I was in 4HI.
>> >
>> > A couple times the grinding came when I was going through some 8-10"
>> >deep water, and one time it happened while engine-braking down a
>> >smooth, relatively steep dirt road in 2nd gear. I don't think the
>> >water had anything to do with it, I *think* that was coincidence...
>> >but maybe not?
>> >
>> > I looked underneath to see if there was any visible damage to the
>> >underside, and I couldn't find even a scratch or dirt or anything to
>> >indicate I'd rubbed ground. Nothing appears out of place, but I'm not
>> >an expert, so I could have missed something. Anyway, I didn't get
>> >hung up on anything so I doubt any kind of physical trauma is the
>> >cause.
>> >
>> > The best I can guess is that somehow I slipped out of 4HI towards
>> >2HI... is this possible? If possible, is it at all likely this was
>> >the cause?
>> >
>> > So yeah, if anyone has any idea what could be causing this, I'd love
>> >to know! I'm going to be bringing my jeep in for a regular checkup in
>> >a week or two, and I'd like to know what I should tell them to check
>> >to fix this problem.
>> >
>> >Thanks for the help!
>> >
>> >Matt
It was just the only thought.I had. :)
Dave
On 27 Jul 2004 05:30:21 -0700, mbs_1736@airpost.net (Matt) wrote:
>True, neither of those situations where the grinding occurred
>necessitated 4WD, but some other parts of the trail we were on did.
>Besides that, I don't get a chance to use 4WD that often in my
>daily-driving routine, so I try to make use of it when I can... if for
>no other reason than to keep the parts functioning.
>
>The only time I ever bound the transfer case was about a week after I
>bought it, when I was more naive than I am now ;) - one jittery corner
>on dry pave was enough to tell me that's a bad idea. Nothing broke
>and I've done enough 4WD action to feel assured I did no real damage
>to the system.
>
>Do you think that could be even somewhat responsible for this? For as
>quick as that bind was, and how well it's worked since then, I have
>difficulty accepting that one jittery corner could be the cause of
>this other issue... things just don't seem to fit, ya know?
>
>Anyway, thanks for the thoughts! If you have any others, I'd love to
>hear them...
>
>Matt
>
>David C. Moller <dmoller@verizon.net> wrote in message news:<efnbg0t59e50a116svf52g8m00j0dfjll7@4ax.com>. ..
>> Hmmmmm not sure really. Hopefully some others will have some ideas.
>> But, neither of the situations you mention below (smooth dirt road,
>> 8-10 inches of water) would really warrant putting the Jeep in any 4
>> wheel drive mode I don't think. Then again, I don't think either would
>> hurt it. But you sure you haven't been binding the transfer case (i.e.
>> running in 4x4 when there isn't enough tire slippage provided by the
>> terrain)?
>>
>> Dave
>> http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
>>
>> On 26 Jul 2004 08:01:09 -0700, mbs_1736@airpost.net (Matt) wrote:
>>
>> >Hi -
>> >
>> > I have a 2004 Wrangler X with about 6000 miles on it. I've done
>> >some mild off-roading in the last year, but it's been a couple months
>> >since my last time out. So I was out yesterday with a friend of mine
>> >on some trails nearby, and while in 4HI for a while, just going along,
>> >not doing anything fancy or crazy, I heard this really terrible
>> >grinding sound coming from the transfer case... at least, it sounds
>> >like it's coming from the transfer case.
>> >
>> > Well, I immediately put in the clutch and shifted from 4HI to 2HI
>> >and back to 4HI again, gave it a little gas, no problem, and
>> >everything was fine after that for a while. Then it did it again, and
>> >a third time later in the day. Each time this occurred I was in 4HI.
>> >
>> > A couple times the grinding came when I was going through some 8-10"
>> >deep water, and one time it happened while engine-braking down a
>> >smooth, relatively steep dirt road in 2nd gear. I don't think the
>> >water had anything to do with it, I *think* that was coincidence...
>> >but maybe not?
>> >
>> > I looked underneath to see if there was any visible damage to the
>> >underside, and I couldn't find even a scratch or dirt or anything to
>> >indicate I'd rubbed ground. Nothing appears out of place, but I'm not
>> >an expert, so I could have missed something. Anyway, I didn't get
>> >hung up on anything so I doubt any kind of physical trauma is the
>> >cause.
>> >
>> > The best I can guess is that somehow I slipped out of 4HI towards
>> >2HI... is this possible? If possible, is it at all likely this was
>> >the cause?
>> >
>> > So yeah, if anyone has any idea what could be causing this, I'd love
>> >to know! I'm going to be bringing my jeep in for a regular checkup in
>> >a week or two, and I'd like to know what I should tell them to check
>> >to fix this problem.
>> >
>> >Thanks for the help!
>> >
>> >Matt
07-27-2004, 10:57 PM
#38
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: wrangler transfer case grind in 4hi
I haven't even got that kind of tcase! My brother's YJ had some issues one
day, or maybe it was an XJ that I was wheeling with. But he could not get
into 4HI at all, and we were able to set the linkage on the trail and lock
it down by tightening the bolt.
The shifter has a collar on the bottom that fits over a shaft, and has a
bolt through it to lock the lever to the shaft. If I am thinking clearly (I
am nearly as old as JerryB, so there is plenty of room for doubt) there are
flats on the shaft. If the bolt comes loose, it can still catch on the ends
of the flats and pull the shaft to engage 4HI.
All you really need is a flashlight and a buddy. Have the buddy take the
light and crawl under the Jeep while you wiggle the lever. hehehe
"Matt" <mbs_1736@airpost.net> wrote in message
news:1e4d4083.0407270416.5e474ef4@posting.google.c om...
> That's possible... I'll admit I'm not totally certain about what
> you're talking about (I haven't seen nor worked on that part of my
> jeep before), but it sounds like a plausable / reasonable cause of the
> problem.
>
> It doesn't seem that it's so much a problem in the transfer case
> itself, because when it's engaged in 4HI or 4LO, and it's working, it
> works great. It would seem that if it were a problem in the transfer
> case, that any 4WD engagement would cause the problem to emerge, and
> it wouldn't be so easily remedied.
>
> I'll have them check out those connections, thanks!
>
> Matt
>
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:<10gad3pbmgcge0c@corp.supernews.com>...
> > From your description, I would be looking at the linkage between the
shifter
> > and the tcase itself. It sounds as though you may not be engaging 4WD
fully.
> > I didn't see any discussion of how well 4LO might work, but it seems to
me
> > that if there was internal problems with the tcase, they would also be
> > apparent in 4LO. My suspicion is that the bolt on the base of the shift
> > lever is loosened some, and the shifter is slipping on the rod and
resulting
> > in a less-than-full engagement of the tcase.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Matt" <mbs_1736@airpost.net> wrote in message
> > news:1e4d4083.0407260701.198d4804@posting.google.c om...
> > > Hi -
> > >
> > > I have a 2004 Wrangler X with about 6000 miles on it. I've done
> > > some mild off-roading in the last year, but it's been a couple months
> > > since my last time out. So I was out yesterday with a friend of mine
> > > on some trails nearby, and while in 4HI for a while, just going along,
> > > not doing anything fancy or crazy, I heard this really terrible
> > > grinding sound coming from the transfer case... at least, it sounds
> > > like it's coming from the transfer case.
> > >
> > > Well, I immediately put in the clutch and shifted from 4HI to 2HI
> > > and back to 4HI again, gave it a little gas, no problem, and
> > > everything was fine after that for a while. Then it did it again, and
> > > a third time later in the day. Each time this occurred I was in 4HI.
> > >
> > > A couple times the grinding came when I was going through some 8-10"
> > > deep water, and one time it happened while engine-braking down a
> > > smooth, relatively steep dirt road in 2nd gear. I don't think the
> > > water had anything to do with it, I *think* that was coincidence...
> > > but maybe not?
> > >
> > > I looked underneath to see if there was any visible damage to the
> > > underside, and I couldn't find even a scratch or dirt or anything to
> > > indicate I'd rubbed ground. Nothing appears out of place, but I'm not
> > > an expert, so I could have missed something. Anyway, I didn't get
> > > hung up on anything so I doubt any kind of physical trauma is the
> > > cause.
> > >
> > > The best I can guess is that somehow I slipped out of 4HI towards
> > > 2HI... is this possible? If possible, is it at all likely this was
> > > the cause?
> > >
> > > So yeah, if anyone has any idea what could be causing this, I'd love
> > > to know! I'm going to be bringing my jeep in for a regular checkup in
> > > a week or two, and I'd like to know what I should tell them to check
> > > to fix this problem.
> > >
> > > Thanks for the help!
> > >
> > > Matt
day, or maybe it was an XJ that I was wheeling with. But he could not get
into 4HI at all, and we were able to set the linkage on the trail and lock
it down by tightening the bolt.
The shifter has a collar on the bottom that fits over a shaft, and has a
bolt through it to lock the lever to the shaft. If I am thinking clearly (I
am nearly as old as JerryB, so there is plenty of room for doubt) there are
flats on the shaft. If the bolt comes loose, it can still catch on the ends
of the flats and pull the shaft to engage 4HI.
All you really need is a flashlight and a buddy. Have the buddy take the
light and crawl under the Jeep while you wiggle the lever. hehehe
"Matt" <mbs_1736@airpost.net> wrote in message
news:1e4d4083.0407270416.5e474ef4@posting.google.c om...
> That's possible... I'll admit I'm not totally certain about what
> you're talking about (I haven't seen nor worked on that part of my
> jeep before), but it sounds like a plausable / reasonable cause of the
> problem.
>
> It doesn't seem that it's so much a problem in the transfer case
> itself, because when it's engaged in 4HI or 4LO, and it's working, it
> works great. It would seem that if it were a problem in the transfer
> case, that any 4WD engagement would cause the problem to emerge, and
> it wouldn't be so easily remedied.
>
> I'll have them check out those connections, thanks!
>
> Matt
>
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:<10gad3pbmgcge0c@corp.supernews.com>...
> > From your description, I would be looking at the linkage between the
shifter
> > and the tcase itself. It sounds as though you may not be engaging 4WD
fully.
> > I didn't see any discussion of how well 4LO might work, but it seems to
me
> > that if there was internal problems with the tcase, they would also be
> > apparent in 4LO. My suspicion is that the bolt on the base of the shift
> > lever is loosened some, and the shifter is slipping on the rod and
resulting
> > in a less-than-full engagement of the tcase.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Matt" <mbs_1736@airpost.net> wrote in message
> > news:1e4d4083.0407260701.198d4804@posting.google.c om...
> > > Hi -
> > >
> > > I have a 2004 Wrangler X with about 6000 miles on it. I've done
> > > some mild off-roading in the last year, but it's been a couple months
> > > since my last time out. So I was out yesterday with a friend of mine
> > > on some trails nearby, and while in 4HI for a while, just going along,
> > > not doing anything fancy or crazy, I heard this really terrible
> > > grinding sound coming from the transfer case... at least, it sounds
> > > like it's coming from the transfer case.
> > >
> > > Well, I immediately put in the clutch and shifted from 4HI to 2HI
> > > and back to 4HI again, gave it a little gas, no problem, and
> > > everything was fine after that for a while. Then it did it again, and
> > > a third time later in the day. Each time this occurred I was in 4HI.
> > >
> > > A couple times the grinding came when I was going through some 8-10"
> > > deep water, and one time it happened while engine-braking down a
> > > smooth, relatively steep dirt road in 2nd gear. I don't think the
> > > water had anything to do with it, I *think* that was coincidence...
> > > but maybe not?
> > >
> > > I looked underneath to see if there was any visible damage to the
> > > underside, and I couldn't find even a scratch or dirt or anything to
> > > indicate I'd rubbed ground. Nothing appears out of place, but I'm not
> > > an expert, so I could have missed something. Anyway, I didn't get
> > > hung up on anything so I doubt any kind of physical trauma is the
> > > cause.
> > >
> > > The best I can guess is that somehow I slipped out of 4HI towards
> > > 2HI... is this possible? If possible, is it at all likely this was
> > > the cause?
> > >
> > > So yeah, if anyone has any idea what could be causing this, I'd love
> > > to know! I'm going to be bringing my jeep in for a regular checkup in
> > > a week or two, and I'd like to know what I should tell them to check
> > > to fix this problem.
> > >
> > > Thanks for the help!
> > >
> > > Matt
07-27-2004, 10:57 PM
#39
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: wrangler transfer case grind in 4hi
I haven't even got that kind of tcase! My brother's YJ had some issues one
day, or maybe it was an XJ that I was wheeling with. But he could not get
into 4HI at all, and we were able to set the linkage on the trail and lock
it down by tightening the bolt.
The shifter has a collar on the bottom that fits over a shaft, and has a
bolt through it to lock the lever to the shaft. If I am thinking clearly (I
am nearly as old as JerryB, so there is plenty of room for doubt) there are
flats on the shaft. If the bolt comes loose, it can still catch on the ends
of the flats and pull the shaft to engage 4HI.
All you really need is a flashlight and a buddy. Have the buddy take the
light and crawl under the Jeep while you wiggle the lever. hehehe
"Matt" <mbs_1736@airpost.net> wrote in message
news:1e4d4083.0407270416.5e474ef4@posting.google.c om...
> That's possible... I'll admit I'm not totally certain about what
> you're talking about (I haven't seen nor worked on that part of my
> jeep before), but it sounds like a plausable / reasonable cause of the
> problem.
>
> It doesn't seem that it's so much a problem in the transfer case
> itself, because when it's engaged in 4HI or 4LO, and it's working, it
> works great. It would seem that if it were a problem in the transfer
> case, that any 4WD engagement would cause the problem to emerge, and
> it wouldn't be so easily remedied.
>
> I'll have them check out those connections, thanks!
>
> Matt
>
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:<10gad3pbmgcge0c@corp.supernews.com>...
> > From your description, I would be looking at the linkage between the
shifter
> > and the tcase itself. It sounds as though you may not be engaging 4WD
fully.
> > I didn't see any discussion of how well 4LO might work, but it seems to
me
> > that if there was internal problems with the tcase, they would also be
> > apparent in 4LO. My suspicion is that the bolt on the base of the shift
> > lever is loosened some, and the shifter is slipping on the rod and
resulting
> > in a less-than-full engagement of the tcase.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Matt" <mbs_1736@airpost.net> wrote in message
> > news:1e4d4083.0407260701.198d4804@posting.google.c om...
> > > Hi -
> > >
> > > I have a 2004 Wrangler X with about 6000 miles on it. I've done
> > > some mild off-roading in the last year, but it's been a couple months
> > > since my last time out. So I was out yesterday with a friend of mine
> > > on some trails nearby, and while in 4HI for a while, just going along,
> > > not doing anything fancy or crazy, I heard this really terrible
> > > grinding sound coming from the transfer case... at least, it sounds
> > > like it's coming from the transfer case.
> > >
> > > Well, I immediately put in the clutch and shifted from 4HI to 2HI
> > > and back to 4HI again, gave it a little gas, no problem, and
> > > everything was fine after that for a while. Then it did it again, and
> > > a third time later in the day. Each time this occurred I was in 4HI.
> > >
> > > A couple times the grinding came when I was going through some 8-10"
> > > deep water, and one time it happened while engine-braking down a
> > > smooth, relatively steep dirt road in 2nd gear. I don't think the
> > > water had anything to do with it, I *think* that was coincidence...
> > > but maybe not?
> > >
> > > I looked underneath to see if there was any visible damage to the
> > > underside, and I couldn't find even a scratch or dirt or anything to
> > > indicate I'd rubbed ground. Nothing appears out of place, but I'm not
> > > an expert, so I could have missed something. Anyway, I didn't get
> > > hung up on anything so I doubt any kind of physical trauma is the
> > > cause.
> > >
> > > The best I can guess is that somehow I slipped out of 4HI towards
> > > 2HI... is this possible? If possible, is it at all likely this was
> > > the cause?
> > >
> > > So yeah, if anyone has any idea what could be causing this, I'd love
> > > to know! I'm going to be bringing my jeep in for a regular checkup in
> > > a week or two, and I'd like to know what I should tell them to check
> > > to fix this problem.
> > >
> > > Thanks for the help!
> > >
> > > Matt
day, or maybe it was an XJ that I was wheeling with. But he could not get
into 4HI at all, and we were able to set the linkage on the trail and lock
it down by tightening the bolt.
The shifter has a collar on the bottom that fits over a shaft, and has a
bolt through it to lock the lever to the shaft. If I am thinking clearly (I
am nearly as old as JerryB, so there is plenty of room for doubt) there are
flats on the shaft. If the bolt comes loose, it can still catch on the ends
of the flats and pull the shaft to engage 4HI.
All you really need is a flashlight and a buddy. Have the buddy take the
light and crawl under the Jeep while you wiggle the lever. hehehe
"Matt" <mbs_1736@airpost.net> wrote in message
news:1e4d4083.0407270416.5e474ef4@posting.google.c om...
> That's possible... I'll admit I'm not totally certain about what
> you're talking about (I haven't seen nor worked on that part of my
> jeep before), but it sounds like a plausable / reasonable cause of the
> problem.
>
> It doesn't seem that it's so much a problem in the transfer case
> itself, because when it's engaged in 4HI or 4LO, and it's working, it
> works great. It would seem that if it were a problem in the transfer
> case, that any 4WD engagement would cause the problem to emerge, and
> it wouldn't be so easily remedied.
>
> I'll have them check out those connections, thanks!
>
> Matt
>
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:<10gad3pbmgcge0c@corp.supernews.com>...
> > From your description, I would be looking at the linkage between the
shifter
> > and the tcase itself. It sounds as though you may not be engaging 4WD
fully.
> > I didn't see any discussion of how well 4LO might work, but it seems to
me
> > that if there was internal problems with the tcase, they would also be
> > apparent in 4LO. My suspicion is that the bolt on the base of the shift
> > lever is loosened some, and the shifter is slipping on the rod and
resulting
> > in a less-than-full engagement of the tcase.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Matt" <mbs_1736@airpost.net> wrote in message
> > news:1e4d4083.0407260701.198d4804@posting.google.c om...
> > > Hi -
> > >
> > > I have a 2004 Wrangler X with about 6000 miles on it. I've done
> > > some mild off-roading in the last year, but it's been a couple months
> > > since my last time out. So I was out yesterday with a friend of mine
> > > on some trails nearby, and while in 4HI for a while, just going along,
> > > not doing anything fancy or crazy, I heard this really terrible
> > > grinding sound coming from the transfer case... at least, it sounds
> > > like it's coming from the transfer case.
> > >
> > > Well, I immediately put in the clutch and shifted from 4HI to 2HI
> > > and back to 4HI again, gave it a little gas, no problem, and
> > > everything was fine after that for a while. Then it did it again, and
> > > a third time later in the day. Each time this occurred I was in 4HI.
> > >
> > > A couple times the grinding came when I was going through some 8-10"
> > > deep water, and one time it happened while engine-braking down a
> > > smooth, relatively steep dirt road in 2nd gear. I don't think the
> > > water had anything to do with it, I *think* that was coincidence...
> > > but maybe not?
> > >
> > > I looked underneath to see if there was any visible damage to the
> > > underside, and I couldn't find even a scratch or dirt or anything to
> > > indicate I'd rubbed ground. Nothing appears out of place, but I'm not
> > > an expert, so I could have missed something. Anyway, I didn't get
> > > hung up on anything so I doubt any kind of physical trauma is the
> > > cause.
> > >
> > > The best I can guess is that somehow I slipped out of 4HI towards
> > > 2HI... is this possible? If possible, is it at all likely this was
> > > the cause?
> > >
> > > So yeah, if anyone has any idea what could be causing this, I'd love
> > > to know! I'm going to be bringing my jeep in for a regular checkup in
> > > a week or two, and I'd like to know what I should tell them to check
> > > to fix this problem.
> > >
> > > Thanks for the help!
> > >
> > > Matt
07-27-2004, 10:57 PM
#40
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: wrangler transfer case grind in 4hi
I haven't even got that kind of tcase! My brother's YJ had some issues one
day, or maybe it was an XJ that I was wheeling with. But he could not get
into 4HI at all, and we were able to set the linkage on the trail and lock
it down by tightening the bolt.
The shifter has a collar on the bottom that fits over a shaft, and has a
bolt through it to lock the lever to the shaft. If I am thinking clearly (I
am nearly as old as JerryB, so there is plenty of room for doubt) there are
flats on the shaft. If the bolt comes loose, it can still catch on the ends
of the flats and pull the shaft to engage 4HI.
All you really need is a flashlight and a buddy. Have the buddy take the
light and crawl under the Jeep while you wiggle the lever. hehehe
"Matt" <mbs_1736@airpost.net> wrote in message
news:1e4d4083.0407270416.5e474ef4@posting.google.c om...
> That's possible... I'll admit I'm not totally certain about what
> you're talking about (I haven't seen nor worked on that part of my
> jeep before), but it sounds like a plausable / reasonable cause of the
> problem.
>
> It doesn't seem that it's so much a problem in the transfer case
> itself, because when it's engaged in 4HI or 4LO, and it's working, it
> works great. It would seem that if it were a problem in the transfer
> case, that any 4WD engagement would cause the problem to emerge, and
> it wouldn't be so easily remedied.
>
> I'll have them check out those connections, thanks!
>
> Matt
>
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:<10gad3pbmgcge0c@corp.supernews.com>...
> > From your description, I would be looking at the linkage between the
shifter
> > and the tcase itself. It sounds as though you may not be engaging 4WD
fully.
> > I didn't see any discussion of how well 4LO might work, but it seems to
me
> > that if there was internal problems with the tcase, they would also be
> > apparent in 4LO. My suspicion is that the bolt on the base of the shift
> > lever is loosened some, and the shifter is slipping on the rod and
resulting
> > in a less-than-full engagement of the tcase.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Matt" <mbs_1736@airpost.net> wrote in message
> > news:1e4d4083.0407260701.198d4804@posting.google.c om...
> > > Hi -
> > >
> > > I have a 2004 Wrangler X with about 6000 miles on it. I've done
> > > some mild off-roading in the last year, but it's been a couple months
> > > since my last time out. So I was out yesterday with a friend of mine
> > > on some trails nearby, and while in 4HI for a while, just going along,
> > > not doing anything fancy or crazy, I heard this really terrible
> > > grinding sound coming from the transfer case... at least, it sounds
> > > like it's coming from the transfer case.
> > >
> > > Well, I immediately put in the clutch and shifted from 4HI to 2HI
> > > and back to 4HI again, gave it a little gas, no problem, and
> > > everything was fine after that for a while. Then it did it again, and
> > > a third time later in the day. Each time this occurred I was in 4HI.
> > >
> > > A couple times the grinding came when I was going through some 8-10"
> > > deep water, and one time it happened while engine-braking down a
> > > smooth, relatively steep dirt road in 2nd gear. I don't think the
> > > water had anything to do with it, I *think* that was coincidence...
> > > but maybe not?
> > >
> > > I looked underneath to see if there was any visible damage to the
> > > underside, and I couldn't find even a scratch or dirt or anything to
> > > indicate I'd rubbed ground. Nothing appears out of place, but I'm not
> > > an expert, so I could have missed something. Anyway, I didn't get
> > > hung up on anything so I doubt any kind of physical trauma is the
> > > cause.
> > >
> > > The best I can guess is that somehow I slipped out of 4HI towards
> > > 2HI... is this possible? If possible, is it at all likely this was
> > > the cause?
> > >
> > > So yeah, if anyone has any idea what could be causing this, I'd love
> > > to know! I'm going to be bringing my jeep in for a regular checkup in
> > > a week or two, and I'd like to know what I should tell them to check
> > > to fix this problem.
> > >
> > > Thanks for the help!
> > >
> > > Matt
day, or maybe it was an XJ that I was wheeling with. But he could not get
into 4HI at all, and we were able to set the linkage on the trail and lock
it down by tightening the bolt.
The shifter has a collar on the bottom that fits over a shaft, and has a
bolt through it to lock the lever to the shaft. If I am thinking clearly (I
am nearly as old as JerryB, so there is plenty of room for doubt) there are
flats on the shaft. If the bolt comes loose, it can still catch on the ends
of the flats and pull the shaft to engage 4HI.
All you really need is a flashlight and a buddy. Have the buddy take the
light and crawl under the Jeep while you wiggle the lever. hehehe
"Matt" <mbs_1736@airpost.net> wrote in message
news:1e4d4083.0407270416.5e474ef4@posting.google.c om...
> That's possible... I'll admit I'm not totally certain about what
> you're talking about (I haven't seen nor worked on that part of my
> jeep before), but it sounds like a plausable / reasonable cause of the
> problem.
>
> It doesn't seem that it's so much a problem in the transfer case
> itself, because when it's engaged in 4HI or 4LO, and it's working, it
> works great. It would seem that if it were a problem in the transfer
> case, that any 4WD engagement would cause the problem to emerge, and
> it wouldn't be so easily remedied.
>
> I'll have them check out those connections, thanks!
>
> Matt
>
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:<10gad3pbmgcge0c@corp.supernews.com>...
> > From your description, I would be looking at the linkage between the
shifter
> > and the tcase itself. It sounds as though you may not be engaging 4WD
fully.
> > I didn't see any discussion of how well 4LO might work, but it seems to
me
> > that if there was internal problems with the tcase, they would also be
> > apparent in 4LO. My suspicion is that the bolt on the base of the shift
> > lever is loosened some, and the shifter is slipping on the rod and
resulting
> > in a less-than-full engagement of the tcase.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Matt" <mbs_1736@airpost.net> wrote in message
> > news:1e4d4083.0407260701.198d4804@posting.google.c om...
> > > Hi -
> > >
> > > I have a 2004 Wrangler X with about 6000 miles on it. I've done
> > > some mild off-roading in the last year, but it's been a couple months
> > > since my last time out. So I was out yesterday with a friend of mine
> > > on some trails nearby, and while in 4HI for a while, just going along,
> > > not doing anything fancy or crazy, I heard this really terrible
> > > grinding sound coming from the transfer case... at least, it sounds
> > > like it's coming from the transfer case.
> > >
> > > Well, I immediately put in the clutch and shifted from 4HI to 2HI
> > > and back to 4HI again, gave it a little gas, no problem, and
> > > everything was fine after that for a while. Then it did it again, and
> > > a third time later in the day. Each time this occurred I was in 4HI.
> > >
> > > A couple times the grinding came when I was going through some 8-10"
> > > deep water, and one time it happened while engine-braking down a
> > > smooth, relatively steep dirt road in 2nd gear. I don't think the
> > > water had anything to do with it, I *think* that was coincidence...
> > > but maybe not?
> > >
> > > I looked underneath to see if there was any visible damage to the
> > > underside, and I couldn't find even a scratch or dirt or anything to
> > > indicate I'd rubbed ground. Nothing appears out of place, but I'm not
> > > an expert, so I could have missed something. Anyway, I didn't get
> > > hung up on anything so I doubt any kind of physical trauma is the
> > > cause.
> > >
> > > The best I can guess is that somehow I slipped out of 4HI towards
> > > 2HI... is this possible? If possible, is it at all likely this was
> > > the cause?
> > >
> > > So yeah, if anyone has any idea what could be causing this, I'd love
> > > to know! I'm going to be bringing my jeep in for a regular checkup in
> > > a week or two, and I'd like to know what I should tell them to check
> > > to fix this problem.
> > >
> > > Thanks for the help!
> > >
> > > Matt