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Matt 07-26-2004 11:01 AM

wrangler transfer case grind in 4hi
 
Hi -

I have a 2004 Wrangler X with about 6000 miles on it. I've done
some mild off-roading in the last year, but it's been a couple months
since my last time out. So I was out yesterday with a friend of mine
on some trails nearby, and while in 4HI for a while, just going along,
not doing anything fancy or crazy, I heard this really terrible
grinding sound coming from the transfer case... at least, it sounds
like it's coming from the transfer case.

Well, I immediately put in the clutch and shifted from 4HI to 2HI
and back to 4HI again, gave it a little gas, no problem, and
everything was fine after that for a while. Then it did it again, and
a third time later in the day. Each time this occurred I was in 4HI.

A couple times the grinding came when I was going through some 8-10"
deep water, and one time it happened while engine-braking down a
smooth, relatively steep dirt road in 2nd gear. I don't think the
water had anything to do with it, I *think* that was coincidence...
but maybe not?

I looked underneath to see if there was any visible damage to the
underside, and I couldn't find even a scratch or dirt or anything to
indicate I'd rubbed ground. Nothing appears out of place, but I'm not
an expert, so I could have missed something. Anyway, I didn't get
hung up on anything so I doubt any kind of physical trauma is the
cause.

The best I can guess is that somehow I slipped out of 4HI towards
2HI... is this possible? If possible, is it at all likely this was
the cause?

So yeah, if anyone has any idea what could be causing this, I'd love
to know! I'm going to be bringing my jeep in for a regular checkup in
a week or two, and I'd like to know what I should tell them to check
to fix this problem.

Thanks for the help!

Matt

CRWLR 07-26-2004 12:38 PM

Re: wrangler transfer case grind in 4hi
 
From your description, I would be looking at the linkage between the shifter
and the tcase itself. It sounds as though you may not be engaging 4WD fully.
I didn't see any discussion of how well 4LO might work, but it seems to me
that if there was internal problems with the tcase, they would also be
apparent in 4LO. My suspicion is that the bolt on the base of the shift
lever is loosened some, and the shifter is slipping on the rod and resulting
in a less-than-full engagement of the tcase.




"Matt" <mbs_1736@airpost.net> wrote in message
news:1e4d4083.0407260701.198d4804@posting.google.c om...
> Hi -
>
> I have a 2004 Wrangler X with about 6000 miles on it. I've done
> some mild off-roading in the last year, but it's been a couple months
> since my last time out. So I was out yesterday with a friend of mine
> on some trails nearby, and while in 4HI for a while, just going along,
> not doing anything fancy or crazy, I heard this really terrible
> grinding sound coming from the transfer case... at least, it sounds
> like it's coming from the transfer case.
>
> Well, I immediately put in the clutch and shifted from 4HI to 2HI
> and back to 4HI again, gave it a little gas, no problem, and
> everything was fine after that for a while. Then it did it again, and
> a third time later in the day. Each time this occurred I was in 4HI.
>
> A couple times the grinding came when I was going through some 8-10"
> deep water, and one time it happened while engine-braking down a
> smooth, relatively steep dirt road in 2nd gear. I don't think the
> water had anything to do with it, I *think* that was coincidence...
> but maybe not?
>
> I looked underneath to see if there was any visible damage to the
> underside, and I couldn't find even a scratch or dirt or anything to
> indicate I'd rubbed ground. Nothing appears out of place, but I'm not
> an expert, so I could have missed something. Anyway, I didn't get
> hung up on anything so I doubt any kind of physical trauma is the
> cause.
>
> The best I can guess is that somehow I slipped out of 4HI towards
> 2HI... is this possible? If possible, is it at all likely this was
> the cause?
>
> So yeah, if anyone has any idea what could be causing this, I'd love
> to know! I'm going to be bringing my jeep in for a regular checkup in
> a week or two, and I'd like to know what I should tell them to check
> to fix this problem.
>
> Thanks for the help!
>
> Matt




CRWLR 07-26-2004 12:38 PM

Re: wrangler transfer case grind in 4hi
 
From your description, I would be looking at the linkage between the shifter
and the tcase itself. It sounds as though you may not be engaging 4WD fully.
I didn't see any discussion of how well 4LO might work, but it seems to me
that if there was internal problems with the tcase, they would also be
apparent in 4LO. My suspicion is that the bolt on the base of the shift
lever is loosened some, and the shifter is slipping on the rod and resulting
in a less-than-full engagement of the tcase.




"Matt" <mbs_1736@airpost.net> wrote in message
news:1e4d4083.0407260701.198d4804@posting.google.c om...
> Hi -
>
> I have a 2004 Wrangler X with about 6000 miles on it. I've done
> some mild off-roading in the last year, but it's been a couple months
> since my last time out. So I was out yesterday with a friend of mine
> on some trails nearby, and while in 4HI for a while, just going along,
> not doing anything fancy or crazy, I heard this really terrible
> grinding sound coming from the transfer case... at least, it sounds
> like it's coming from the transfer case.
>
> Well, I immediately put in the clutch and shifted from 4HI to 2HI
> and back to 4HI again, gave it a little gas, no problem, and
> everything was fine after that for a while. Then it did it again, and
> a third time later in the day. Each time this occurred I was in 4HI.
>
> A couple times the grinding came when I was going through some 8-10"
> deep water, and one time it happened while engine-braking down a
> smooth, relatively steep dirt road in 2nd gear. I don't think the
> water had anything to do with it, I *think* that was coincidence...
> but maybe not?
>
> I looked underneath to see if there was any visible damage to the
> underside, and I couldn't find even a scratch or dirt or anything to
> indicate I'd rubbed ground. Nothing appears out of place, but I'm not
> an expert, so I could have missed something. Anyway, I didn't get
> hung up on anything so I doubt any kind of physical trauma is the
> cause.
>
> The best I can guess is that somehow I slipped out of 4HI towards
> 2HI... is this possible? If possible, is it at all likely this was
> the cause?
>
> So yeah, if anyone has any idea what could be causing this, I'd love
> to know! I'm going to be bringing my jeep in for a regular checkup in
> a week or two, and I'd like to know what I should tell them to check
> to fix this problem.
>
> Thanks for the help!
>
> Matt




CRWLR 07-26-2004 12:38 PM

Re: wrangler transfer case grind in 4hi
 
From your description, I would be looking at the linkage between the shifter
and the tcase itself. It sounds as though you may not be engaging 4WD fully.
I didn't see any discussion of how well 4LO might work, but it seems to me
that if there was internal problems with the tcase, they would also be
apparent in 4LO. My suspicion is that the bolt on the base of the shift
lever is loosened some, and the shifter is slipping on the rod and resulting
in a less-than-full engagement of the tcase.




"Matt" <mbs_1736@airpost.net> wrote in message
news:1e4d4083.0407260701.198d4804@posting.google.c om...
> Hi -
>
> I have a 2004 Wrangler X with about 6000 miles on it. I've done
> some mild off-roading in the last year, but it's been a couple months
> since my last time out. So I was out yesterday with a friend of mine
> on some trails nearby, and while in 4HI for a while, just going along,
> not doing anything fancy or crazy, I heard this really terrible
> grinding sound coming from the transfer case... at least, it sounds
> like it's coming from the transfer case.
>
> Well, I immediately put in the clutch and shifted from 4HI to 2HI
> and back to 4HI again, gave it a little gas, no problem, and
> everything was fine after that for a while. Then it did it again, and
> a third time later in the day. Each time this occurred I was in 4HI.
>
> A couple times the grinding came when I was going through some 8-10"
> deep water, and one time it happened while engine-braking down a
> smooth, relatively steep dirt road in 2nd gear. I don't think the
> water had anything to do with it, I *think* that was coincidence...
> but maybe not?
>
> I looked underneath to see if there was any visible damage to the
> underside, and I couldn't find even a scratch or dirt or anything to
> indicate I'd rubbed ground. Nothing appears out of place, but I'm not
> an expert, so I could have missed something. Anyway, I didn't get
> hung up on anything so I doubt any kind of physical trauma is the
> cause.
>
> The best I can guess is that somehow I slipped out of 4HI towards
> 2HI... is this possible? If possible, is it at all likely this was
> the cause?
>
> So yeah, if anyone has any idea what could be causing this, I'd love
> to know! I'm going to be bringing my jeep in for a regular checkup in
> a week or two, and I'd like to know what I should tell them to check
> to fix this problem.
>
> Thanks for the help!
>
> Matt




CRWLR 07-26-2004 12:38 PM

Re: wrangler transfer case grind in 4hi
 
From your description, I would be looking at the linkage between the shifter
and the tcase itself. It sounds as though you may not be engaging 4WD fully.
I didn't see any discussion of how well 4LO might work, but it seems to me
that if there was internal problems with the tcase, they would also be
apparent in 4LO. My suspicion is that the bolt on the base of the shift
lever is loosened some, and the shifter is slipping on the rod and resulting
in a less-than-full engagement of the tcase.




"Matt" <mbs_1736@airpost.net> wrote in message
news:1e4d4083.0407260701.198d4804@posting.google.c om...
> Hi -
>
> I have a 2004 Wrangler X with about 6000 miles on it. I've done
> some mild off-roading in the last year, but it's been a couple months
> since my last time out. So I was out yesterday with a friend of mine
> on some trails nearby, and while in 4HI for a while, just going along,
> not doing anything fancy or crazy, I heard this really terrible
> grinding sound coming from the transfer case... at least, it sounds
> like it's coming from the transfer case.
>
> Well, I immediately put in the clutch and shifted from 4HI to 2HI
> and back to 4HI again, gave it a little gas, no problem, and
> everything was fine after that for a while. Then it did it again, and
> a third time later in the day. Each time this occurred I was in 4HI.
>
> A couple times the grinding came when I was going through some 8-10"
> deep water, and one time it happened while engine-braking down a
> smooth, relatively steep dirt road in 2nd gear. I don't think the
> water had anything to do with it, I *think* that was coincidence...
> but maybe not?
>
> I looked underneath to see if there was any visible damage to the
> underside, and I couldn't find even a scratch or dirt or anything to
> indicate I'd rubbed ground. Nothing appears out of place, but I'm not
> an expert, so I could have missed something. Anyway, I didn't get
> hung up on anything so I doubt any kind of physical trauma is the
> cause.
>
> The best I can guess is that somehow I slipped out of 4HI towards
> 2HI... is this possible? If possible, is it at all likely this was
> the cause?
>
> So yeah, if anyone has any idea what could be causing this, I'd love
> to know! I'm going to be bringing my jeep in for a regular checkup in
> a week or two, and I'd like to know what I should tell them to check
> to fix this problem.
>
> Thanks for the help!
>
> Matt




L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 07-26-2004 01:24 PM

Re: wrangler transfer case grind in 4hi
 
If you have a body lift, it may be hitting the lever and knocking
it out of gear.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Matt wrote:
>
> Hi -
>
> I have a 2004 Wrangler X with about 6000 miles on it. I've done
> some mild off-roading in the last year, but it's been a couple months
> since my last time out. So I was out yesterday with a friend of mine
> on some trails nearby, and while in 4HI for a while, just going along,
> not doing anything fancy or crazy, I heard this really terrible
> grinding sound coming from the transfer case... at least, it sounds
> like it's coming from the transfer case.
>
> Well, I immediately put in the clutch and shifted from 4HI to 2HI
> and back to 4HI again, gave it a little gas, no problem, and
> everything was fine after that for a while. Then it did it again, and
> a third time later in the day. Each time this occurred I was in 4HI.
>
> A couple times the grinding came when I was going through some 8-10"
> deep water, and one time it happened while engine-braking down a
> smooth, relatively steep dirt road in 2nd gear. I don't think the
> water had anything to do with it, I *think* that was coincidence...
> but maybe not?
>
> I looked underneath to see if there was any visible damage to the
> underside, and I couldn't find even a scratch or dirt or anything to
> indicate I'd rubbed ground. Nothing appears out of place, but I'm not
> an expert, so I could have missed something. Anyway, I didn't get
> hung up on anything so I doubt any kind of physical trauma is the
> cause.
>
> The best I can guess is that somehow I slipped out of 4HI towards
> 2HI... is this possible? If possible, is it at all likely this was
> the cause?
>
> So yeah, if anyone has any idea what could be causing this, I'd love
> to know! I'm going to be bringing my jeep in for a regular checkup in
> a week or two, and I'd like to know what I should tell them to check
> to fix this problem.
>
> Thanks for the help!
>
> Matt


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 07-26-2004 01:24 PM

Re: wrangler transfer case grind in 4hi
 
If you have a body lift, it may be hitting the lever and knocking
it out of gear.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Matt wrote:
>
> Hi -
>
> I have a 2004 Wrangler X with about 6000 miles on it. I've done
> some mild off-roading in the last year, but it's been a couple months
> since my last time out. So I was out yesterday with a friend of mine
> on some trails nearby, and while in 4HI for a while, just going along,
> not doing anything fancy or crazy, I heard this really terrible
> grinding sound coming from the transfer case... at least, it sounds
> like it's coming from the transfer case.
>
> Well, I immediately put in the clutch and shifted from 4HI to 2HI
> and back to 4HI again, gave it a little gas, no problem, and
> everything was fine after that for a while. Then it did it again, and
> a third time later in the day. Each time this occurred I was in 4HI.
>
> A couple times the grinding came when I was going through some 8-10"
> deep water, and one time it happened while engine-braking down a
> smooth, relatively steep dirt road in 2nd gear. I don't think the
> water had anything to do with it, I *think* that was coincidence...
> but maybe not?
>
> I looked underneath to see if there was any visible damage to the
> underside, and I couldn't find even a scratch or dirt or anything to
> indicate I'd rubbed ground. Nothing appears out of place, but I'm not
> an expert, so I could have missed something. Anyway, I didn't get
> hung up on anything so I doubt any kind of physical trauma is the
> cause.
>
> The best I can guess is that somehow I slipped out of 4HI towards
> 2HI... is this possible? If possible, is it at all likely this was
> the cause?
>
> So yeah, if anyone has any idea what could be causing this, I'd love
> to know! I'm going to be bringing my jeep in for a regular checkup in
> a week or two, and I'd like to know what I should tell them to check
> to fix this problem.
>
> Thanks for the help!
>
> Matt


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 07-26-2004 01:24 PM

Re: wrangler transfer case grind in 4hi
 
If you have a body lift, it may be hitting the lever and knocking
it out of gear.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Matt wrote:
>
> Hi -
>
> I have a 2004 Wrangler X with about 6000 miles on it. I've done
> some mild off-roading in the last year, but it's been a couple months
> since my last time out. So I was out yesterday with a friend of mine
> on some trails nearby, and while in 4HI for a while, just going along,
> not doing anything fancy or crazy, I heard this really terrible
> grinding sound coming from the transfer case... at least, it sounds
> like it's coming from the transfer case.
>
> Well, I immediately put in the clutch and shifted from 4HI to 2HI
> and back to 4HI again, gave it a little gas, no problem, and
> everything was fine after that for a while. Then it did it again, and
> a third time later in the day. Each time this occurred I was in 4HI.
>
> A couple times the grinding came when I was going through some 8-10"
> deep water, and one time it happened while engine-braking down a
> smooth, relatively steep dirt road in 2nd gear. I don't think the
> water had anything to do with it, I *think* that was coincidence...
> but maybe not?
>
> I looked underneath to see if there was any visible damage to the
> underside, and I couldn't find even a scratch or dirt or anything to
> indicate I'd rubbed ground. Nothing appears out of place, but I'm not
> an expert, so I could have missed something. Anyway, I didn't get
> hung up on anything so I doubt any kind of physical trauma is the
> cause.
>
> The best I can guess is that somehow I slipped out of 4HI towards
> 2HI... is this possible? If possible, is it at all likely this was
> the cause?
>
> So yeah, if anyone has any idea what could be causing this, I'd love
> to know! I'm going to be bringing my jeep in for a regular checkup in
> a week or two, and I'd like to know what I should tell them to check
> to fix this problem.
>
> Thanks for the help!
>
> Matt


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 07-26-2004 01:24 PM

Re: wrangler transfer case grind in 4hi
 
If you have a body lift, it may be hitting the lever and knocking
it out of gear.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Matt wrote:
>
> Hi -
>
> I have a 2004 Wrangler X with about 6000 miles on it. I've done
> some mild off-roading in the last year, but it's been a couple months
> since my last time out. So I was out yesterday with a friend of mine
> on some trails nearby, and while in 4HI for a while, just going along,
> not doing anything fancy or crazy, I heard this really terrible
> grinding sound coming from the transfer case... at least, it sounds
> like it's coming from the transfer case.
>
> Well, I immediately put in the clutch and shifted from 4HI to 2HI
> and back to 4HI again, gave it a little gas, no problem, and
> everything was fine after that for a while. Then it did it again, and
> a third time later in the day. Each time this occurred I was in 4HI.
>
> A couple times the grinding came when I was going through some 8-10"
> deep water, and one time it happened while engine-braking down a
> smooth, relatively steep dirt road in 2nd gear. I don't think the
> water had anything to do with it, I *think* that was coincidence...
> but maybe not?
>
> I looked underneath to see if there was any visible damage to the
> underside, and I couldn't find even a scratch or dirt or anything to
> indicate I'd rubbed ground. Nothing appears out of place, but I'm not
> an expert, so I could have missed something. Anyway, I didn't get
> hung up on anything so I doubt any kind of physical trauma is the
> cause.
>
> The best I can guess is that somehow I slipped out of 4HI towards
> 2HI... is this possible? If possible, is it at all likely this was
> the cause?
>
> So yeah, if anyone has any idea what could be causing this, I'd love
> to know! I'm going to be bringing my jeep in for a regular checkup in
> a week or two, and I'd like to know what I should tell them to check
> to fix this problem.
>
> Thanks for the help!
>
> Matt


Lee Ayrton 07-26-2004 01:46 PM

Re: wrangler transfer case grind in 4hi
 

I was guessing (and it was SWAG at that) that he had a dry U-joint in the
front drive shaft or that he had a bad rear mount allowing the case to
swing around and hit the sheet metal. But that was just a SWAG.


On Mon, 26 Jul 2004, L.W.([iso-8859-1] ßill) ------ III wrote:

> If you have a body lift, it may be hitting the lever and knocking
> it out of gear.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt wrote:
>>
>> Hi -
>>
>> I have a 2004 Wrangler X with about 6000 miles on it. I've done
>> some mild off-roading in the last year, but it's been a couple months
>> since my last time out. So I was out yesterday with a friend of mine
>> on some trails nearby, and while in 4HI for a while, just going along,
>> not doing anything fancy or crazy, I heard this really terrible
>> grinding sound coming from the transfer case... at least, it sounds
>> like it's coming from the transfer case.
>>
>> Well, I immediately put in the clutch and shifted from 4HI to 2HI
>> and back to 4HI again, gave it a little gas, no problem, and
>> everything was fine after that for a while. Then it did it again, and
>> a third time later in the day. Each time this occurred I was in 4HI.
>>
>> A couple times the grinding came when I was going through some 8-10"
>> deep water, and one time it happened while engine-braking down a
>> smooth, relatively steep dirt road in 2nd gear. I don't think the
>> water had anything to do with it, I *think* that was coincidence...
>> but maybe not?
>>
>> I looked underneath to see if there was any visible damage to the
>> underside, and I couldn't find even a scratch or dirt or anything to
>> indicate I'd rubbed ground. Nothing appears out of place, but I'm not
>> an expert, so I could have missed something. Anyway, I didn't get
>> hung up on anything so I doubt any kind of physical trauma is the
>> cause.
>>
>> The best I can guess is that somehow I slipped out of 4HI towards
>> 2HI... is this possible? If possible, is it at all likely this was
>> the cause?
>>
>> So yeah, if anyone has any idea what could be causing this, I'd love
>> to know! I'm going to be bringing my jeep in for a regular checkup in
>> a week or two, and I'd like to know what I should tell them to check
>> to fix this problem.
>>
>> Thanks for the help!
>>
>> Matt

>




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