Wobble
#71
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Wobble
This is all interesting. After my lift I noticed, very subtle, a slight
steering pull one way and then the other. Not death wobble at all but a
little disconcerting. I chalked it up to 4.5" of lift (plus 1" body lift).
But now I think I will check all the things mentioned here. Thanks Jerry.
Andy
2001 TJ
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
news:twCAc.2$ZE4.0@fed1read05...
> Insufficient Caster (not castor, which is like Castor Oil) angle can
> contribute to death wobble and other problems like twitchy steering and
poor
> steering wheel return-to-center.. But do check two other things too
because
> they can trigger death wobble while insufficient Caster angle usually only
> lets it fully develop. Carefully check the passenger-side trackbar
mounting
> bolt for tightness, it should be at 74 ft-lbs, and double-check the front
> tire balance. Both of those are also major contributors to death wobble,
> especially a loose trackbar.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> N6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
> "RocknTJ" <jetowle@***.net> wrote in message
> news:b_BAc.9174$u%3.4824@fed1read04...
> > Just wanted to say you all saved me a bit on this thread.
> > My TJ was having some DW issues. I had it toed out to compensate. I took
> it
> > to the front end shop and they did an alignment. There was still DW.
After
> > reading the print out from their machine and reading this thread, I
> noticed
> > the castor was set at 3.5. Yesterday I went out and gave the bottom two
> > control arms 2.5 turns out. I drove it all day yesterday with no DW
> issues.
> > A big thanks.... The new owner of the TJ is flying in from Las Vegas
> > tomorrow and I was having a cow, trying to figure out how to explain the
> DW
> > to him. Now he can have a nice drive back. For some reason I didn't
think
> > there was a link between castor and the dreaded DW.
> >
> > Have a great day.
> >
> > --James
> >
> > "Trust5280" <trust5280@aol.com> wrote in message
> > news:20040616232216.16562.00000083@mb-m22.aol.com...
> > > 1999 Tj with a 2" Tera Flex lift. After a Moab trip terrible death
> wobble
> > > started at about 45 MPH. Replaced the track bar. Could feel wobble
> trying
> > to
> > > start in steering wheel. After about 20 miles death wobble came back
big
> > time.
> > > Swithched from 30" stock tires to offset 32" MTR's. Wobble stopped.
> > However, I
> > > can still feel the wobble trying to get started at 45 MPH. One of
these
> > days
> > > the wobble will win again. Alignment has been checked. Four wheel shop
> > says
> > > they can't find any reason. Track bar is in good shape.
> > >
> > > Any opinion on whether changing to Tera Flex swing arms will help by
> > reducing
> > > any looseness in suspension.
> > >
> > > It is a puzzlement.
> >
> >
>
>
steering pull one way and then the other. Not death wobble at all but a
little disconcerting. I chalked it up to 4.5" of lift (plus 1" body lift).
But now I think I will check all the things mentioned here. Thanks Jerry.
Andy
2001 TJ
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
news:twCAc.2$ZE4.0@fed1read05...
> Insufficient Caster (not castor, which is like Castor Oil) angle can
> contribute to death wobble and other problems like twitchy steering and
poor
> steering wheel return-to-center.. But do check two other things too
because
> they can trigger death wobble while insufficient Caster angle usually only
> lets it fully develop. Carefully check the passenger-side trackbar
mounting
> bolt for tightness, it should be at 74 ft-lbs, and double-check the front
> tire balance. Both of those are also major contributors to death wobble,
> especially a loose trackbar.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> N6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
> "RocknTJ" <jetowle@***.net> wrote in message
> news:b_BAc.9174$u%3.4824@fed1read04...
> > Just wanted to say you all saved me a bit on this thread.
> > My TJ was having some DW issues. I had it toed out to compensate. I took
> it
> > to the front end shop and they did an alignment. There was still DW.
After
> > reading the print out from their machine and reading this thread, I
> noticed
> > the castor was set at 3.5. Yesterday I went out and gave the bottom two
> > control arms 2.5 turns out. I drove it all day yesterday with no DW
> issues.
> > A big thanks.... The new owner of the TJ is flying in from Las Vegas
> > tomorrow and I was having a cow, trying to figure out how to explain the
> DW
> > to him. Now he can have a nice drive back. For some reason I didn't
think
> > there was a link between castor and the dreaded DW.
> >
> > Have a great day.
> >
> > --James
> >
> > "Trust5280" <trust5280@aol.com> wrote in message
> > news:20040616232216.16562.00000083@mb-m22.aol.com...
> > > 1999 Tj with a 2" Tera Flex lift. After a Moab trip terrible death
> wobble
> > > started at about 45 MPH. Replaced the track bar. Could feel wobble
> trying
> > to
> > > start in steering wheel. After about 20 miles death wobble came back
big
> > time.
> > > Swithched from 30" stock tires to offset 32" MTR's. Wobble stopped.
> > However, I
> > > can still feel the wobble trying to get started at 45 MPH. One of
these
> > days
> > > the wobble will win again. Alignment has been checked. Four wheel shop
> > says
> > > they can't find any reason. Track bar is in good shape.
> > >
> > > Any opinion on whether changing to Tera Flex swing arms will help by
> > reducing
> > > any looseness in suspension.
> > >
> > > It is a puzzlement.
> >
> >
>
>
#72
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Wobble
This is all interesting. After my lift I noticed, very subtle, a slight
steering pull one way and then the other. Not death wobble at all but a
little disconcerting. I chalked it up to 4.5" of lift (plus 1" body lift).
But now I think I will check all the things mentioned here. Thanks Jerry.
Andy
2001 TJ
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
news:twCAc.2$ZE4.0@fed1read05...
> Insufficient Caster (not castor, which is like Castor Oil) angle can
> contribute to death wobble and other problems like twitchy steering and
poor
> steering wheel return-to-center.. But do check two other things too
because
> they can trigger death wobble while insufficient Caster angle usually only
> lets it fully develop. Carefully check the passenger-side trackbar
mounting
> bolt for tightness, it should be at 74 ft-lbs, and double-check the front
> tire balance. Both of those are also major contributors to death wobble,
> especially a loose trackbar.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> N6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
> "RocknTJ" <jetowle@***.net> wrote in message
> news:b_BAc.9174$u%3.4824@fed1read04...
> > Just wanted to say you all saved me a bit on this thread.
> > My TJ was having some DW issues. I had it toed out to compensate. I took
> it
> > to the front end shop and they did an alignment. There was still DW.
After
> > reading the print out from their machine and reading this thread, I
> noticed
> > the castor was set at 3.5. Yesterday I went out and gave the bottom two
> > control arms 2.5 turns out. I drove it all day yesterday with no DW
> issues.
> > A big thanks.... The new owner of the TJ is flying in from Las Vegas
> > tomorrow and I was having a cow, trying to figure out how to explain the
> DW
> > to him. Now he can have a nice drive back. For some reason I didn't
think
> > there was a link between castor and the dreaded DW.
> >
> > Have a great day.
> >
> > --James
> >
> > "Trust5280" <trust5280@aol.com> wrote in message
> > news:20040616232216.16562.00000083@mb-m22.aol.com...
> > > 1999 Tj with a 2" Tera Flex lift. After a Moab trip terrible death
> wobble
> > > started at about 45 MPH. Replaced the track bar. Could feel wobble
> trying
> > to
> > > start in steering wheel. After about 20 miles death wobble came back
big
> > time.
> > > Swithched from 30" stock tires to offset 32" MTR's. Wobble stopped.
> > However, I
> > > can still feel the wobble trying to get started at 45 MPH. One of
these
> > days
> > > the wobble will win again. Alignment has been checked. Four wheel shop
> > says
> > > they can't find any reason. Track bar is in good shape.
> > >
> > > Any opinion on whether changing to Tera Flex swing arms will help by
> > reducing
> > > any looseness in suspension.
> > >
> > > It is a puzzlement.
> >
> >
>
>
steering pull one way and then the other. Not death wobble at all but a
little disconcerting. I chalked it up to 4.5" of lift (plus 1" body lift).
But now I think I will check all the things mentioned here. Thanks Jerry.
Andy
2001 TJ
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
news:twCAc.2$ZE4.0@fed1read05...
> Insufficient Caster (not castor, which is like Castor Oil) angle can
> contribute to death wobble and other problems like twitchy steering and
poor
> steering wheel return-to-center.. But do check two other things too
because
> they can trigger death wobble while insufficient Caster angle usually only
> lets it fully develop. Carefully check the passenger-side trackbar
mounting
> bolt for tightness, it should be at 74 ft-lbs, and double-check the front
> tire balance. Both of those are also major contributors to death wobble,
> especially a loose trackbar.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> N6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
> "RocknTJ" <jetowle@***.net> wrote in message
> news:b_BAc.9174$u%3.4824@fed1read04...
> > Just wanted to say you all saved me a bit on this thread.
> > My TJ was having some DW issues. I had it toed out to compensate. I took
> it
> > to the front end shop and they did an alignment. There was still DW.
After
> > reading the print out from their machine and reading this thread, I
> noticed
> > the castor was set at 3.5. Yesterday I went out and gave the bottom two
> > control arms 2.5 turns out. I drove it all day yesterday with no DW
> issues.
> > A big thanks.... The new owner of the TJ is flying in from Las Vegas
> > tomorrow and I was having a cow, trying to figure out how to explain the
> DW
> > to him. Now he can have a nice drive back. For some reason I didn't
think
> > there was a link between castor and the dreaded DW.
> >
> > Have a great day.
> >
> > --James
> >
> > "Trust5280" <trust5280@aol.com> wrote in message
> > news:20040616232216.16562.00000083@mb-m22.aol.com...
> > > 1999 Tj with a 2" Tera Flex lift. After a Moab trip terrible death
> wobble
> > > started at about 45 MPH. Replaced the track bar. Could feel wobble
> trying
> > to
> > > start in steering wheel. After about 20 miles death wobble came back
big
> > time.
> > > Swithched from 30" stock tires to offset 32" MTR's. Wobble stopped.
> > However, I
> > > can still feel the wobble trying to get started at 45 MPH. One of
these
> > days
> > > the wobble will win again. Alignment has been checked. Four wheel shop
> > says
> > > they can't find any reason. Track bar is in good shape.
> > >
> > > Any opinion on whether changing to Tera Flex swing arms will help by
> > reducing
> > > any looseness in suspension.
> > >
> > > It is a puzzlement.
> >
> >
>
>
#73
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Wobble
This is all interesting. After my lift I noticed, very subtle, a slight
steering pull one way and then the other. Not death wobble at all but a
little disconcerting. I chalked it up to 4.5" of lift (plus 1" body lift).
But now I think I will check all the things mentioned here. Thanks Jerry.
Andy
2001 TJ
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
news:twCAc.2$ZE4.0@fed1read05...
> Insufficient Caster (not castor, which is like Castor Oil) angle can
> contribute to death wobble and other problems like twitchy steering and
poor
> steering wheel return-to-center.. But do check two other things too
because
> they can trigger death wobble while insufficient Caster angle usually only
> lets it fully develop. Carefully check the passenger-side trackbar
mounting
> bolt for tightness, it should be at 74 ft-lbs, and double-check the front
> tire balance. Both of those are also major contributors to death wobble,
> especially a loose trackbar.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> N6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
> "RocknTJ" <jetowle@***.net> wrote in message
> news:b_BAc.9174$u%3.4824@fed1read04...
> > Just wanted to say you all saved me a bit on this thread.
> > My TJ was having some DW issues. I had it toed out to compensate. I took
> it
> > to the front end shop and they did an alignment. There was still DW.
After
> > reading the print out from their machine and reading this thread, I
> noticed
> > the castor was set at 3.5. Yesterday I went out and gave the bottom two
> > control arms 2.5 turns out. I drove it all day yesterday with no DW
> issues.
> > A big thanks.... The new owner of the TJ is flying in from Las Vegas
> > tomorrow and I was having a cow, trying to figure out how to explain the
> DW
> > to him. Now he can have a nice drive back. For some reason I didn't
think
> > there was a link between castor and the dreaded DW.
> >
> > Have a great day.
> >
> > --James
> >
> > "Trust5280" <trust5280@aol.com> wrote in message
> > news:20040616232216.16562.00000083@mb-m22.aol.com...
> > > 1999 Tj with a 2" Tera Flex lift. After a Moab trip terrible death
> wobble
> > > started at about 45 MPH. Replaced the track bar. Could feel wobble
> trying
> > to
> > > start in steering wheel. After about 20 miles death wobble came back
big
> > time.
> > > Swithched from 30" stock tires to offset 32" MTR's. Wobble stopped.
> > However, I
> > > can still feel the wobble trying to get started at 45 MPH. One of
these
> > days
> > > the wobble will win again. Alignment has been checked. Four wheel shop
> > says
> > > they can't find any reason. Track bar is in good shape.
> > >
> > > Any opinion on whether changing to Tera Flex swing arms will help by
> > reducing
> > > any looseness in suspension.
> > >
> > > It is a puzzlement.
> >
> >
>
>
steering pull one way and then the other. Not death wobble at all but a
little disconcerting. I chalked it up to 4.5" of lift (plus 1" body lift).
But now I think I will check all the things mentioned here. Thanks Jerry.
Andy
2001 TJ
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
news:twCAc.2$ZE4.0@fed1read05...
> Insufficient Caster (not castor, which is like Castor Oil) angle can
> contribute to death wobble and other problems like twitchy steering and
poor
> steering wheel return-to-center.. But do check two other things too
because
> they can trigger death wobble while insufficient Caster angle usually only
> lets it fully develop. Carefully check the passenger-side trackbar
mounting
> bolt for tightness, it should be at 74 ft-lbs, and double-check the front
> tire balance. Both of those are also major contributors to death wobble,
> especially a loose trackbar.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> N6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
> "RocknTJ" <jetowle@***.net> wrote in message
> news:b_BAc.9174$u%3.4824@fed1read04...
> > Just wanted to say you all saved me a bit on this thread.
> > My TJ was having some DW issues. I had it toed out to compensate. I took
> it
> > to the front end shop and they did an alignment. There was still DW.
After
> > reading the print out from their machine and reading this thread, I
> noticed
> > the castor was set at 3.5. Yesterday I went out and gave the bottom two
> > control arms 2.5 turns out. I drove it all day yesterday with no DW
> issues.
> > A big thanks.... The new owner of the TJ is flying in from Las Vegas
> > tomorrow and I was having a cow, trying to figure out how to explain the
> DW
> > to him. Now he can have a nice drive back. For some reason I didn't
think
> > there was a link between castor and the dreaded DW.
> >
> > Have a great day.
> >
> > --James
> >
> > "Trust5280" <trust5280@aol.com> wrote in message
> > news:20040616232216.16562.00000083@mb-m22.aol.com...
> > > 1999 Tj with a 2" Tera Flex lift. After a Moab trip terrible death
> wobble
> > > started at about 45 MPH. Replaced the track bar. Could feel wobble
> trying
> > to
> > > start in steering wheel. After about 20 miles death wobble came back
big
> > time.
> > > Swithched from 30" stock tires to offset 32" MTR's. Wobble stopped.
> > However, I
> > > can still feel the wobble trying to get started at 45 MPH. One of
these
> > days
> > > the wobble will win again. Alignment has been checked. Four wheel shop
> > says
> > > they can't find any reason. Track bar is in good shape.
> > >
> > > Any opinion on whether changing to Tera Flex swing arms will help by
> > reducing
> > > any looseness in suspension.
> > >
> > > It is a puzzlement.
> >
> >
>
>
#74
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Wobble
I have never heard of "toed out to compensate" I've always tried to
get it as close as possible to factory specs:
http://www.----------.com/alignment.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
RocknTJ wrote:
>
> Just wanted to say you all saved me a bit on this thread.
> My TJ was having some DW issues. I had it toed out to compensate. I took it
> to the front end shop and they did an alignment. There was still DW. After
> reading the print out from their machine and reading this thread, I noticed
> the castor was set at 3.5. Yesterday I went out and gave the bottom two
> control arms 2.5 turns out. I drove it all day yesterday with no DW issues.
> A big thanks.... The new owner of the TJ is flying in from Las Vegas
> tomorrow and I was having a cow, trying to figure out how to explain the DW
> to him. Now he can have a nice drive back. For some reason I didn't think
> there was a link between castor and the dreaded DW.
>
> Have a great day.
>
> --James
>
> "Trust5280" <trust5280@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20040616232216.16562.00000083@mb-m22.aol.com...
> > 1999 Tj with a 2" Tera Flex lift. After a Moab trip terrible death wobble
> > started at about 45 MPH. Replaced the track bar. Could feel wobble trying
> to
> > start in steering wheel. After about 20 miles death wobble came back big
> time.
> > Swithched from 30" stock tires to offset 32" MTR's. Wobble stopped.
> However, I
> > can still feel the wobble trying to get started at 45 MPH. One of these
> days
> > the wobble will win again. Alignment has been checked. Four wheel shop
> says
> > they can't find any reason. Track bar is in good shape.
> >
> > Any opinion on whether changing to Tera Flex swing arms will help by
> reducing
> > any looseness in suspension.
> >
> > It is a puzzlement.
get it as close as possible to factory specs:
http://www.----------.com/alignment.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
RocknTJ wrote:
>
> Just wanted to say you all saved me a bit on this thread.
> My TJ was having some DW issues. I had it toed out to compensate. I took it
> to the front end shop and they did an alignment. There was still DW. After
> reading the print out from their machine and reading this thread, I noticed
> the castor was set at 3.5. Yesterday I went out and gave the bottom two
> control arms 2.5 turns out. I drove it all day yesterday with no DW issues.
> A big thanks.... The new owner of the TJ is flying in from Las Vegas
> tomorrow and I was having a cow, trying to figure out how to explain the DW
> to him. Now he can have a nice drive back. For some reason I didn't think
> there was a link between castor and the dreaded DW.
>
> Have a great day.
>
> --James
>
> "Trust5280" <trust5280@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20040616232216.16562.00000083@mb-m22.aol.com...
> > 1999 Tj with a 2" Tera Flex lift. After a Moab trip terrible death wobble
> > started at about 45 MPH. Replaced the track bar. Could feel wobble trying
> to
> > start in steering wheel. After about 20 miles death wobble came back big
> time.
> > Swithched from 30" stock tires to offset 32" MTR's. Wobble stopped.
> However, I
> > can still feel the wobble trying to get started at 45 MPH. One of these
> days
> > the wobble will win again. Alignment has been checked. Four wheel shop
> says
> > they can't find any reason. Track bar is in good shape.
> >
> > Any opinion on whether changing to Tera Flex swing arms will help by
> reducing
> > any looseness in suspension.
> >
> > It is a puzzlement.
#75
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Wobble
I have never heard of "toed out to compensate" I've always tried to
get it as close as possible to factory specs:
http://www.----------.com/alignment.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
RocknTJ wrote:
>
> Just wanted to say you all saved me a bit on this thread.
> My TJ was having some DW issues. I had it toed out to compensate. I took it
> to the front end shop and they did an alignment. There was still DW. After
> reading the print out from their machine and reading this thread, I noticed
> the castor was set at 3.5. Yesterday I went out and gave the bottom two
> control arms 2.5 turns out. I drove it all day yesterday with no DW issues.
> A big thanks.... The new owner of the TJ is flying in from Las Vegas
> tomorrow and I was having a cow, trying to figure out how to explain the DW
> to him. Now he can have a nice drive back. For some reason I didn't think
> there was a link between castor and the dreaded DW.
>
> Have a great day.
>
> --James
>
> "Trust5280" <trust5280@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20040616232216.16562.00000083@mb-m22.aol.com...
> > 1999 Tj with a 2" Tera Flex lift. After a Moab trip terrible death wobble
> > started at about 45 MPH. Replaced the track bar. Could feel wobble trying
> to
> > start in steering wheel. After about 20 miles death wobble came back big
> time.
> > Swithched from 30" stock tires to offset 32" MTR's. Wobble stopped.
> However, I
> > can still feel the wobble trying to get started at 45 MPH. One of these
> days
> > the wobble will win again. Alignment has been checked. Four wheel shop
> says
> > they can't find any reason. Track bar is in good shape.
> >
> > Any opinion on whether changing to Tera Flex swing arms will help by
> reducing
> > any looseness in suspension.
> >
> > It is a puzzlement.
get it as close as possible to factory specs:
http://www.----------.com/alignment.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
RocknTJ wrote:
>
> Just wanted to say you all saved me a bit on this thread.
> My TJ was having some DW issues. I had it toed out to compensate. I took it
> to the front end shop and they did an alignment. There was still DW. After
> reading the print out from their machine and reading this thread, I noticed
> the castor was set at 3.5. Yesterday I went out and gave the bottom two
> control arms 2.5 turns out. I drove it all day yesterday with no DW issues.
> A big thanks.... The new owner of the TJ is flying in from Las Vegas
> tomorrow and I was having a cow, trying to figure out how to explain the DW
> to him. Now he can have a nice drive back. For some reason I didn't think
> there was a link between castor and the dreaded DW.
>
> Have a great day.
>
> --James
>
> "Trust5280" <trust5280@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20040616232216.16562.00000083@mb-m22.aol.com...
> > 1999 Tj with a 2" Tera Flex lift. After a Moab trip terrible death wobble
> > started at about 45 MPH. Replaced the track bar. Could feel wobble trying
> to
> > start in steering wheel. After about 20 miles death wobble came back big
> time.
> > Swithched from 30" stock tires to offset 32" MTR's. Wobble stopped.
> However, I
> > can still feel the wobble trying to get started at 45 MPH. One of these
> days
> > the wobble will win again. Alignment has been checked. Four wheel shop
> says
> > they can't find any reason. Track bar is in good shape.
> >
> > Any opinion on whether changing to Tera Flex swing arms will help by
> reducing
> > any looseness in suspension.
> >
> > It is a puzzlement.
#76
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Posts: n/a
Re: Wobble
I have never heard of "toed out to compensate" I've always tried to
get it as close as possible to factory specs:
http://www.----------.com/alignment.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
RocknTJ wrote:
>
> Just wanted to say you all saved me a bit on this thread.
> My TJ was having some DW issues. I had it toed out to compensate. I took it
> to the front end shop and they did an alignment. There was still DW. After
> reading the print out from their machine and reading this thread, I noticed
> the castor was set at 3.5. Yesterday I went out and gave the bottom two
> control arms 2.5 turns out. I drove it all day yesterday with no DW issues.
> A big thanks.... The new owner of the TJ is flying in from Las Vegas
> tomorrow and I was having a cow, trying to figure out how to explain the DW
> to him. Now he can have a nice drive back. For some reason I didn't think
> there was a link between castor and the dreaded DW.
>
> Have a great day.
>
> --James
>
> "Trust5280" <trust5280@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20040616232216.16562.00000083@mb-m22.aol.com...
> > 1999 Tj with a 2" Tera Flex lift. After a Moab trip terrible death wobble
> > started at about 45 MPH. Replaced the track bar. Could feel wobble trying
> to
> > start in steering wheel. After about 20 miles death wobble came back big
> time.
> > Swithched from 30" stock tires to offset 32" MTR's. Wobble stopped.
> However, I
> > can still feel the wobble trying to get started at 45 MPH. One of these
> days
> > the wobble will win again. Alignment has been checked. Four wheel shop
> says
> > they can't find any reason. Track bar is in good shape.
> >
> > Any opinion on whether changing to Tera Flex swing arms will help by
> reducing
> > any looseness in suspension.
> >
> > It is a puzzlement.
get it as close as possible to factory specs:
http://www.----------.com/alignment.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
RocknTJ wrote:
>
> Just wanted to say you all saved me a bit on this thread.
> My TJ was having some DW issues. I had it toed out to compensate. I took it
> to the front end shop and they did an alignment. There was still DW. After
> reading the print out from their machine and reading this thread, I noticed
> the castor was set at 3.5. Yesterday I went out and gave the bottom two
> control arms 2.5 turns out. I drove it all day yesterday with no DW issues.
> A big thanks.... The new owner of the TJ is flying in from Las Vegas
> tomorrow and I was having a cow, trying to figure out how to explain the DW
> to him. Now he can have a nice drive back. For some reason I didn't think
> there was a link between castor and the dreaded DW.
>
> Have a great day.
>
> --James
>
> "Trust5280" <trust5280@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20040616232216.16562.00000083@mb-m22.aol.com...
> > 1999 Tj with a 2" Tera Flex lift. After a Moab trip terrible death wobble
> > started at about 45 MPH. Replaced the track bar. Could feel wobble trying
> to
> > start in steering wheel. After about 20 miles death wobble came back big
> time.
> > Swithched from 30" stock tires to offset 32" MTR's. Wobble stopped.
> However, I
> > can still feel the wobble trying to get started at 45 MPH. One of these
> days
> > the wobble will win again. Alignment has been checked. Four wheel shop
> says
> > they can't find any reason. Track bar is in good shape.
> >
> > Any opinion on whether changing to Tera Flex swing arms will help by
> reducing
> > any looseness in suspension.
> >
> > It is a puzzlement.
#77
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Wobble
I have never heard of "toed out to compensate" I've always tried to
get it as close as possible to factory specs:
http://www.----------.com/alignment.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
RocknTJ wrote:
>
> Just wanted to say you all saved me a bit on this thread.
> My TJ was having some DW issues. I had it toed out to compensate. I took it
> to the front end shop and they did an alignment. There was still DW. After
> reading the print out from their machine and reading this thread, I noticed
> the castor was set at 3.5. Yesterday I went out and gave the bottom two
> control arms 2.5 turns out. I drove it all day yesterday with no DW issues.
> A big thanks.... The new owner of the TJ is flying in from Las Vegas
> tomorrow and I was having a cow, trying to figure out how to explain the DW
> to him. Now he can have a nice drive back. For some reason I didn't think
> there was a link between castor and the dreaded DW.
>
> Have a great day.
>
> --James
>
> "Trust5280" <trust5280@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20040616232216.16562.00000083@mb-m22.aol.com...
> > 1999 Tj with a 2" Tera Flex lift. After a Moab trip terrible death wobble
> > started at about 45 MPH. Replaced the track bar. Could feel wobble trying
> to
> > start in steering wheel. After about 20 miles death wobble came back big
> time.
> > Swithched from 30" stock tires to offset 32" MTR's. Wobble stopped.
> However, I
> > can still feel the wobble trying to get started at 45 MPH. One of these
> days
> > the wobble will win again. Alignment has been checked. Four wheel shop
> says
> > they can't find any reason. Track bar is in good shape.
> >
> > Any opinion on whether changing to Tera Flex swing arms will help by
> reducing
> > any looseness in suspension.
> >
> > It is a puzzlement.
get it as close as possible to factory specs:
http://www.----------.com/alignment.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
RocknTJ wrote:
>
> Just wanted to say you all saved me a bit on this thread.
> My TJ was having some DW issues. I had it toed out to compensate. I took it
> to the front end shop and they did an alignment. There was still DW. After
> reading the print out from their machine and reading this thread, I noticed
> the castor was set at 3.5. Yesterday I went out and gave the bottom two
> control arms 2.5 turns out. I drove it all day yesterday with no DW issues.
> A big thanks.... The new owner of the TJ is flying in from Las Vegas
> tomorrow and I was having a cow, trying to figure out how to explain the DW
> to him. Now he can have a nice drive back. For some reason I didn't think
> there was a link between castor and the dreaded DW.
>
> Have a great day.
>
> --James
>
> "Trust5280" <trust5280@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20040616232216.16562.00000083@mb-m22.aol.com...
> > 1999 Tj with a 2" Tera Flex lift. After a Moab trip terrible death wobble
> > started at about 45 MPH. Replaced the track bar. Could feel wobble trying
> to
> > start in steering wheel. After about 20 miles death wobble came back big
> time.
> > Swithched from 30" stock tires to offset 32" MTR's. Wobble stopped.
> However, I
> > can still feel the wobble trying to get started at 45 MPH. One of these
> days
> > the wobble will win again. Alignment has been checked. Four wheel shop
> says
> > they can't find any reason. Track bar is in good shape.
> >
> > Any opinion on whether changing to Tera Flex swing arms will help by
> reducing
> > any looseness in suspension.
> >
> > It is a puzzlement.
#78
Guest
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Re: Wobble
Yeah, toed out compensates but, it wears the tires real quick. It is
probably cheaper just to fix the real problem.
So what is .25* of toe in inches, on 35's?
--James
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:40D34A32.B22A60EB@***.net...
> I have never heard of "toed out to compensate" I've always tried to
> get it as close as possible to factory specs:
> http://www.----------.com/alignment.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
probably cheaper just to fix the real problem.
So what is .25* of toe in inches, on 35's?
--James
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:40D34A32.B22A60EB@***.net...
> I have never heard of "toed out to compensate" I've always tried to
> get it as close as possible to factory specs:
> http://www.----------.com/alignment.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
#79
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Wobble
Yeah, toed out compensates but, it wears the tires real quick. It is
probably cheaper just to fix the real problem.
So what is .25* of toe in inches, on 35's?
--James
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:40D34A32.B22A60EB@***.net...
> I have never heard of "toed out to compensate" I've always tried to
> get it as close as possible to factory specs:
> http://www.----------.com/alignment.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
probably cheaper just to fix the real problem.
So what is .25* of toe in inches, on 35's?
--James
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:40D34A32.B22A60EB@***.net...
> I have never heard of "toed out to compensate" I've always tried to
> get it as close as possible to factory specs:
> http://www.----------.com/alignment.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
#80
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Wobble
Yeah, toed out compensates but, it wears the tires real quick. It is
probably cheaper just to fix the real problem.
So what is .25* of toe in inches, on 35's?
--James
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:40D34A32.B22A60EB@***.net...
> I have never heard of "toed out to compensate" I've always tried to
> get it as close as possible to factory specs:
> http://www.----------.com/alignment.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
probably cheaper just to fix the real problem.
So what is .25* of toe in inches, on 35's?
--James
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:40D34A32.B22A60EB@***.net...
> I have never heard of "toed out to compensate" I've always tried to
> get it as close as possible to factory specs:
> http://www.----------.com/alignment.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>