Wobble
#51
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Re: Wobble
Positive is like a bicycle: http://www.----------.com/alignment.jpg
http://www.----------.com/CJalignment.jpg
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twaldron wrote:
>
> Since someone is keeping you on your toes, your use of the words "plus"
> and "positive" contradict themselves. "keep the caster on the plus side
> of zero, anything that you do to reduce positive caster.."
>
> Does positive caster rake the spindles forward at the bottom like a
> bike's forks, or is that negative caster?
http://www.----------.com/CJalignment.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
twaldron wrote:
>
> Since someone is keeping you on your toes, your use of the words "plus"
> and "positive" contradict themselves. "keep the caster on the plus side
> of zero, anything that you do to reduce positive caster.."
>
> Does positive caster rake the spindles forward at the bottom like a
> bike's forks, or is that negative caster?
#52
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Re: Wobble
Positive is like a bicycle: http://www.----------.com/alignment.jpg
http://www.----------.com/CJalignment.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
twaldron wrote:
>
> Since someone is keeping you on your toes, your use of the words "plus"
> and "positive" contradict themselves. "keep the caster on the plus side
> of zero, anything that you do to reduce positive caster.."
>
> Does positive caster rake the spindles forward at the bottom like a
> bike's forks, or is that negative caster?
http://www.----------.com/CJalignment.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
twaldron wrote:
>
> Since someone is keeping you on your toes, your use of the words "plus"
> and "positive" contradict themselves. "keep the caster on the plus side
> of zero, anything that you do to reduce positive caster.."
>
> Does positive caster rake the spindles forward at the bottom like a
> bike's forks, or is that negative caster?
#53
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Posts: n/a
Re: Wobble
Positive is like a bicycle: http://www.----------.com/alignment.jpg
http://www.----------.com/CJalignment.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
twaldron wrote:
>
> Since someone is keeping you on your toes, your use of the words "plus"
> and "positive" contradict themselves. "keep the caster on the plus side
> of zero, anything that you do to reduce positive caster.."
>
> Does positive caster rake the spindles forward at the bottom like a
> bike's forks, or is that negative caster?
http://www.----------.com/CJalignment.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
twaldron wrote:
>
> Since someone is keeping you on your toes, your use of the words "plus"
> and "positive" contradict themselves. "keep the caster on the plus side
> of zero, anything that you do to reduce positive caster.."
>
> Does positive caster rake the spindles forward at the bottom like a
> bike's forks, or is that negative caster?
#54
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Re: Wobble
Thanks, Bill!
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Positive is like a bicycle: http://www.----------.com/alignment.jpg
> http://www.----------.com/CJalignment.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> twaldron wrote:
>
>>Since someone is keeping you on your toes, your use of the words "plus"
>>and "positive" contradict themselves. "keep the caster on the plus side
>>of zero, anything that you do to reduce positive caster.."
>>
>>Does positive caster rake the spindles forward at the bottom like a
>>bike's forks, or is that negative caster?
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
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L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Positive is like a bicycle: http://www.----------.com/alignment.jpg
> http://www.----------.com/CJalignment.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> twaldron wrote:
>
>>Since someone is keeping you on your toes, your use of the words "plus"
>>and "positive" contradict themselves. "keep the caster on the plus side
>>of zero, anything that you do to reduce positive caster.."
>>
>>Does positive caster rake the spindles forward at the bottom like a
>>bike's forks, or is that negative caster?
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
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#55
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Re: Wobble
Thanks, Bill!
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Positive is like a bicycle: http://www.----------.com/alignment.jpg
> http://www.----------.com/CJalignment.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> twaldron wrote:
>
>>Since someone is keeping you on your toes, your use of the words "plus"
>>and "positive" contradict themselves. "keep the caster on the plus side
>>of zero, anything that you do to reduce positive caster.."
>>
>>Does positive caster rake the spindles forward at the bottom like a
>>bike's forks, or is that negative caster?
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Positive is like a bicycle: http://www.----------.com/alignment.jpg
> http://www.----------.com/CJalignment.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> twaldron wrote:
>
>>Since someone is keeping you on your toes, your use of the words "plus"
>>and "positive" contradict themselves. "keep the caster on the plus side
>>of zero, anything that you do to reduce positive caster.."
>>
>>Does positive caster rake the spindles forward at the bottom like a
>>bike's forks, or is that negative caster?
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
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#56
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Re: Wobble
Thanks, Bill!
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Positive is like a bicycle: http://www.----------.com/alignment.jpg
> http://www.----------.com/CJalignment.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> twaldron wrote:
>
>>Since someone is keeping you on your toes, your use of the words "plus"
>>and "positive" contradict themselves. "keep the caster on the plus side
>>of zero, anything that you do to reduce positive caster.."
>>
>>Does positive caster rake the spindles forward at the bottom like a
>>bike's forks, or is that negative caster?
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Positive is like a bicycle: http://www.----------.com/alignment.jpg
> http://www.----------.com/CJalignment.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> twaldron wrote:
>
>>Since someone is keeping you on your toes, your use of the words "plus"
>>and "positive" contradict themselves. "keep the caster on the plus side
>>of zero, anything that you do to reduce positive caster.."
>>
>>Does positive caster rake the spindles forward at the bottom like a
>>bike's forks, or is that negative caster?
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
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__________________________________________________ _________
#57
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Re: Wobble
Thanks, Bill!
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Positive is like a bicycle: http://www.----------.com/alignment.jpg
> http://www.----------.com/CJalignment.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> twaldron wrote:
>
>>Since someone is keeping you on your toes, your use of the words "plus"
>>and "positive" contradict themselves. "keep the caster on the plus side
>>of zero, anything that you do to reduce positive caster.."
>>
>>Does positive caster rake the spindles forward at the bottom like a
>>bike's forks, or is that negative caster?
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Positive is like a bicycle: http://www.----------.com/alignment.jpg
> http://www.----------.com/CJalignment.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> twaldron wrote:
>
>>Since someone is keeping you on your toes, your use of the words "plus"
>>and "positive" contradict themselves. "keep the caster on the plus side
>>of zero, anything that you do to reduce positive caster.."
>>
>>Does positive caster rake the spindles forward at the bottom like a
>>bike's forks, or is that negative caster?
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
#58
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Re: Wobble
Just wanted to say you all saved me a bit on this thread.
My TJ was having some DW issues. I had it toed out to compensate. I took it
to the front end shop and they did an alignment. There was still DW. After
reading the print out from their machine and reading this thread, I noticed
the castor was set at 3.5. Yesterday I went out and gave the bottom two
control arms 2.5 turns out. I drove it all day yesterday with no DW issues.
A big thanks.... The new owner of the TJ is flying in from Las Vegas
tomorrow and I was having a cow, trying to figure out how to explain the DW
to him. Now he can have a nice drive back. For some reason I didn't think
there was a link between castor and the dreaded DW.
Have a great day.
--James
"Trust5280" <trust5280@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040616232216.16562.00000083@mb-m22.aol.com...
> 1999 Tj with a 2" Tera Flex lift. After a Moab trip terrible death wobble
> started at about 45 MPH. Replaced the track bar. Could feel wobble trying
to
> start in steering wheel. After about 20 miles death wobble came back big
time.
> Swithched from 30" stock tires to offset 32" MTR's. Wobble stopped.
However, I
> can still feel the wobble trying to get started at 45 MPH. One of these
days
> the wobble will win again. Alignment has been checked. Four wheel shop
says
> they can't find any reason. Track bar is in good shape.
>
> Any opinion on whether changing to Tera Flex swing arms will help by
reducing
> any looseness in suspension.
>
> It is a puzzlement.
My TJ was having some DW issues. I had it toed out to compensate. I took it
to the front end shop and they did an alignment. There was still DW. After
reading the print out from their machine and reading this thread, I noticed
the castor was set at 3.5. Yesterday I went out and gave the bottom two
control arms 2.5 turns out. I drove it all day yesterday with no DW issues.
A big thanks.... The new owner of the TJ is flying in from Las Vegas
tomorrow and I was having a cow, trying to figure out how to explain the DW
to him. Now he can have a nice drive back. For some reason I didn't think
there was a link between castor and the dreaded DW.
Have a great day.
--James
"Trust5280" <trust5280@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040616232216.16562.00000083@mb-m22.aol.com...
> 1999 Tj with a 2" Tera Flex lift. After a Moab trip terrible death wobble
> started at about 45 MPH. Replaced the track bar. Could feel wobble trying
to
> start in steering wheel. After about 20 miles death wobble came back big
time.
> Swithched from 30" stock tires to offset 32" MTR's. Wobble stopped.
However, I
> can still feel the wobble trying to get started at 45 MPH. One of these
days
> the wobble will win again. Alignment has been checked. Four wheel shop
says
> they can't find any reason. Track bar is in good shape.
>
> Any opinion on whether changing to Tera Flex swing arms will help by
reducing
> any looseness in suspension.
>
> It is a puzzlement.
#59
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Wobble
Just wanted to say you all saved me a bit on this thread.
My TJ was having some DW issues. I had it toed out to compensate. I took it
to the front end shop and they did an alignment. There was still DW. After
reading the print out from their machine and reading this thread, I noticed
the castor was set at 3.5. Yesterday I went out and gave the bottom two
control arms 2.5 turns out. I drove it all day yesterday with no DW issues.
A big thanks.... The new owner of the TJ is flying in from Las Vegas
tomorrow and I was having a cow, trying to figure out how to explain the DW
to him. Now he can have a nice drive back. For some reason I didn't think
there was a link between castor and the dreaded DW.
Have a great day.
--James
"Trust5280" <trust5280@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040616232216.16562.00000083@mb-m22.aol.com...
> 1999 Tj with a 2" Tera Flex lift. After a Moab trip terrible death wobble
> started at about 45 MPH. Replaced the track bar. Could feel wobble trying
to
> start in steering wheel. After about 20 miles death wobble came back big
time.
> Swithched from 30" stock tires to offset 32" MTR's. Wobble stopped.
However, I
> can still feel the wobble trying to get started at 45 MPH. One of these
days
> the wobble will win again. Alignment has been checked. Four wheel shop
says
> they can't find any reason. Track bar is in good shape.
>
> Any opinion on whether changing to Tera Flex swing arms will help by
reducing
> any looseness in suspension.
>
> It is a puzzlement.
My TJ was having some DW issues. I had it toed out to compensate. I took it
to the front end shop and they did an alignment. There was still DW. After
reading the print out from their machine and reading this thread, I noticed
the castor was set at 3.5. Yesterday I went out and gave the bottom two
control arms 2.5 turns out. I drove it all day yesterday with no DW issues.
A big thanks.... The new owner of the TJ is flying in from Las Vegas
tomorrow and I was having a cow, trying to figure out how to explain the DW
to him. Now he can have a nice drive back. For some reason I didn't think
there was a link between castor and the dreaded DW.
Have a great day.
--James
"Trust5280" <trust5280@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040616232216.16562.00000083@mb-m22.aol.com...
> 1999 Tj with a 2" Tera Flex lift. After a Moab trip terrible death wobble
> started at about 45 MPH. Replaced the track bar. Could feel wobble trying
to
> start in steering wheel. After about 20 miles death wobble came back big
time.
> Swithched from 30" stock tires to offset 32" MTR's. Wobble stopped.
However, I
> can still feel the wobble trying to get started at 45 MPH. One of these
days
> the wobble will win again. Alignment has been checked. Four wheel shop
says
> they can't find any reason. Track bar is in good shape.
>
> Any opinion on whether changing to Tera Flex swing arms will help by
reducing
> any looseness in suspension.
>
> It is a puzzlement.
#60
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Wobble
Just wanted to say you all saved me a bit on this thread.
My TJ was having some DW issues. I had it toed out to compensate. I took it
to the front end shop and they did an alignment. There was still DW. After
reading the print out from their machine and reading this thread, I noticed
the castor was set at 3.5. Yesterday I went out and gave the bottom two
control arms 2.5 turns out. I drove it all day yesterday with no DW issues.
A big thanks.... The new owner of the TJ is flying in from Las Vegas
tomorrow and I was having a cow, trying to figure out how to explain the DW
to him. Now he can have a nice drive back. For some reason I didn't think
there was a link between castor and the dreaded DW.
Have a great day.
--James
"Trust5280" <trust5280@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040616232216.16562.00000083@mb-m22.aol.com...
> 1999 Tj with a 2" Tera Flex lift. After a Moab trip terrible death wobble
> started at about 45 MPH. Replaced the track bar. Could feel wobble trying
to
> start in steering wheel. After about 20 miles death wobble came back big
time.
> Swithched from 30" stock tires to offset 32" MTR's. Wobble stopped.
However, I
> can still feel the wobble trying to get started at 45 MPH. One of these
days
> the wobble will win again. Alignment has been checked. Four wheel shop
says
> they can't find any reason. Track bar is in good shape.
>
> Any opinion on whether changing to Tera Flex swing arms will help by
reducing
> any looseness in suspension.
>
> It is a puzzlement.
My TJ was having some DW issues. I had it toed out to compensate. I took it
to the front end shop and they did an alignment. There was still DW. After
reading the print out from their machine and reading this thread, I noticed
the castor was set at 3.5. Yesterday I went out and gave the bottom two
control arms 2.5 turns out. I drove it all day yesterday with no DW issues.
A big thanks.... The new owner of the TJ is flying in from Las Vegas
tomorrow and I was having a cow, trying to figure out how to explain the DW
to him. Now he can have a nice drive back. For some reason I didn't think
there was a link between castor and the dreaded DW.
Have a great day.
--James
"Trust5280" <trust5280@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040616232216.16562.00000083@mb-m22.aol.com...
> 1999 Tj with a 2" Tera Flex lift. After a Moab trip terrible death wobble
> started at about 45 MPH. Replaced the track bar. Could feel wobble trying
to
> start in steering wheel. After about 20 miles death wobble came back big
time.
> Swithched from 30" stock tires to offset 32" MTR's. Wobble stopped.
However, I
> can still feel the wobble trying to get started at 45 MPH. One of these
days
> the wobble will win again. Alignment has been checked. Four wheel shop
says
> they can't find any reason. Track bar is in good shape.
>
> Any opinion on whether changing to Tera Flex swing arms will help by
reducing
> any looseness in suspension.
>
> It is a puzzlement.