WJ Teves Calipers Chronology
04-24-2006, 11:59 PM
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Re: WJ Teves Calipers Chronology - "2001 GrandCherokee_TSB_FrontBrakes_05-003-02.pdf" (0/1) 55.8 kBytes yEnc
On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 03:10:05 +0000 (UTC), Ted Borck <tborck@panix.com>
wrote:
>
>2000 WJ, 4 liter, 2WD, now with 105 K.
>
>96 K: Replaced both front rotors, due to warped rotors - judder in
>steering wheel - but *never* smelled hot brake pads.
>
>98K: Left front caliper (driver side) exhibited excessive dragging (smells
>and vapor). Replaced *both* front Teves calipers.
>
>104.7K: Left front caliper (driver side) exhibited excessive dragging
>(smells and vapor smoke). Replaced left front brake line.
>
>105K: Today - Left front caliper (driver side) exhibited excessive
>dragging (smells and vapor smoke).
>
>Stopped, let the caliper & rotor cool, and drove home (10 miles) with no
>further incident.
>
>WTF!
>
>Does this mean that I need to remove, lubricate the caliper/brake pad
>slide areas with Neverseize, every time I change the engine oil?
>
>Anyone have a better fix?
>
>--
>Ted Borck tborck@panix.com
>
>
The Akebonos (calipers, rotors and pads on front) were fit to my '01
WJ under warranty at 27K, haven't had a problem since. The pad I used
at 76K is from the '03 - end of the run. I don't know if Akebono
supplied the calipers during regular production but the '03 and later
pads fit the Akebono calipers. I don't lube the slides except at pad
service. I do use oil on the studs and only torque to 65 lb-ft (no to
start the lug nut torque thread again). Now at 113k and will probably
make it to 130 based on the remaining pads. Here is a PDF of the TSB.
reboot
--
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wrote:
>
>2000 WJ, 4 liter, 2WD, now with 105 K.
>
>96 K: Replaced both front rotors, due to warped rotors - judder in
>steering wheel - but *never* smelled hot brake pads.
>
>98K: Left front caliper (driver side) exhibited excessive dragging (smells
>and vapor). Replaced *both* front Teves calipers.
>
>104.7K: Left front caliper (driver side) exhibited excessive dragging
>(smells and vapor smoke). Replaced left front brake line.
>
>105K: Today - Left front caliper (driver side) exhibited excessive
>dragging (smells and vapor smoke).
>
>Stopped, let the caliper & rotor cool, and drove home (10 miles) with no
>further incident.
>
>WTF!
>
>Does this mean that I need to remove, lubricate the caliper/brake pad
>slide areas with Neverseize, every time I change the engine oil?
>
>Anyone have a better fix?
>
>--
>Ted Borck tborck@panix.com
>
>
The Akebonos (calipers, rotors and pads on front) were fit to my '01
WJ under warranty at 27K, haven't had a problem since. The pad I used
at 76K is from the '03 - end of the run. I don't know if Akebono
supplied the calipers during regular production but the '03 and later
pads fit the Akebono calipers. I don't lube the slides except at pad
service. I do use oil on the studs and only torque to 65 lb-ft (no to
start the lug nut torque thread again). Now at 113k and will probably
make it to 130 based on the remaining pads. Here is a PDF of the TSB.
reboot
--
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04-24-2006, 11:59 PM
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Re: WJ Teves Calipers Chronology - "2001 GrandCherokee_TSB_FrontBrakes_05-003-02.pdf" (0/1) 55.8 kBytes yEnc
On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 03:10:05 +0000 (UTC), Ted Borck <tborck@panix.com>
wrote:
>
>2000 WJ, 4 liter, 2WD, now with 105 K.
>
>96 K: Replaced both front rotors, due to warped rotors - judder in
>steering wheel - but *never* smelled hot brake pads.
>
>98K: Left front caliper (driver side) exhibited excessive dragging (smells
>and vapor). Replaced *both* front Teves calipers.
>
>104.7K: Left front caliper (driver side) exhibited excessive dragging
>(smells and vapor smoke). Replaced left front brake line.
>
>105K: Today - Left front caliper (driver side) exhibited excessive
>dragging (smells and vapor smoke).
>
>Stopped, let the caliper & rotor cool, and drove home (10 miles) with no
>further incident.
>
>WTF!
>
>Does this mean that I need to remove, lubricate the caliper/brake pad
>slide areas with Neverseize, every time I change the engine oil?
>
>Anyone have a better fix?
>
>--
>Ted Borck tborck@panix.com
>
>
The Akebonos (calipers, rotors and pads on front) were fit to my '01
WJ under warranty at 27K, haven't had a problem since. The pad I used
at 76K is from the '03 - end of the run. I don't know if Akebono
supplied the calipers during regular production but the '03 and later
pads fit the Akebono calipers. I don't lube the slides except at pad
service. I do use oil on the studs and only torque to 65 lb-ft (no to
start the lug nut torque thread again). Now at 113k and will probably
make it to 130 based on the remaining pads. Here is a PDF of the TSB.
reboot
--
NewsGuy.Com 30Gb $9.95 Carry Forward and On Demand Bandwidth
wrote:
>
>2000 WJ, 4 liter, 2WD, now with 105 K.
>
>96 K: Replaced both front rotors, due to warped rotors - judder in
>steering wheel - but *never* smelled hot brake pads.
>
>98K: Left front caliper (driver side) exhibited excessive dragging (smells
>and vapor). Replaced *both* front Teves calipers.
>
>104.7K: Left front caliper (driver side) exhibited excessive dragging
>(smells and vapor smoke). Replaced left front brake line.
>
>105K: Today - Left front caliper (driver side) exhibited excessive
>dragging (smells and vapor smoke).
>
>Stopped, let the caliper & rotor cool, and drove home (10 miles) with no
>further incident.
>
>WTF!
>
>Does this mean that I need to remove, lubricate the caliper/brake pad
>slide areas with Neverseize, every time I change the engine oil?
>
>Anyone have a better fix?
>
>--
>Ted Borck tborck@panix.com
>
>
The Akebonos (calipers, rotors and pads on front) were fit to my '01
WJ under warranty at 27K, haven't had a problem since. The pad I used
at 76K is from the '03 - end of the run. I don't know if Akebono
supplied the calipers during regular production but the '03 and later
pads fit the Akebono calipers. I don't lube the slides except at pad
service. I do use oil on the studs and only torque to 65 lb-ft (no to
start the lug nut torque thread again). Now at 113k and will probably
make it to 130 based on the remaining pads. Here is a PDF of the TSB.
reboot
--
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04-24-2006, 11:59 PM
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Re: WJ Teves Calipers Chronology - "2001 GrandCherokee_TSB_FrontBrakes_05-003-02.pdf" (0/1) 55.8 kBytes yEnc
On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 03:10:05 +0000 (UTC), Ted Borck <tborck@panix.com>
wrote:
>
>2000 WJ, 4 liter, 2WD, now with 105 K.
>
>96 K: Replaced both front rotors, due to warped rotors - judder in
>steering wheel - but *never* smelled hot brake pads.
>
>98K: Left front caliper (driver side) exhibited excessive dragging (smells
>and vapor). Replaced *both* front Teves calipers.
>
>104.7K: Left front caliper (driver side) exhibited excessive dragging
>(smells and vapor smoke). Replaced left front brake line.
>
>105K: Today - Left front caliper (driver side) exhibited excessive
>dragging (smells and vapor smoke).
>
>Stopped, let the caliper & rotor cool, and drove home (10 miles) with no
>further incident.
>
>WTF!
>
>Does this mean that I need to remove, lubricate the caliper/brake pad
>slide areas with Neverseize, every time I change the engine oil?
>
>Anyone have a better fix?
>
>--
>Ted Borck tborck@panix.com
>
>
The Akebonos (calipers, rotors and pads on front) were fit to my '01
WJ under warranty at 27K, haven't had a problem since. The pad I used
at 76K is from the '03 - end of the run. I don't know if Akebono
supplied the calipers during regular production but the '03 and later
pads fit the Akebono calipers. I don't lube the slides except at pad
service. I do use oil on the studs and only torque to 65 lb-ft (no to
start the lug nut torque thread again). Now at 113k and will probably
make it to 130 based on the remaining pads. Here is a PDF of the TSB.
reboot
--
NewsGuy.Com 30Gb $9.95 Carry Forward and On Demand Bandwidth
wrote:
>
>2000 WJ, 4 liter, 2WD, now with 105 K.
>
>96 K: Replaced both front rotors, due to warped rotors - judder in
>steering wheel - but *never* smelled hot brake pads.
>
>98K: Left front caliper (driver side) exhibited excessive dragging (smells
>and vapor). Replaced *both* front Teves calipers.
>
>104.7K: Left front caliper (driver side) exhibited excessive dragging
>(smells and vapor smoke). Replaced left front brake line.
>
>105K: Today - Left front caliper (driver side) exhibited excessive
>dragging (smells and vapor smoke).
>
>Stopped, let the caliper & rotor cool, and drove home (10 miles) with no
>further incident.
>
>WTF!
>
>Does this mean that I need to remove, lubricate the caliper/brake pad
>slide areas with Neverseize, every time I change the engine oil?
>
>Anyone have a better fix?
>
>--
>Ted Borck tborck@panix.com
>
>
The Akebonos (calipers, rotors and pads on front) were fit to my '01
WJ under warranty at 27K, haven't had a problem since. The pad I used
at 76K is from the '03 - end of the run. I don't know if Akebono
supplied the calipers during regular production but the '03 and later
pads fit the Akebono calipers. I don't lube the slides except at pad
service. I do use oil on the studs and only torque to 65 lb-ft (no to
start the lug nut torque thread again). Now at 113k and will probably
make it to 130 based on the remaining pads. Here is a PDF of the TSB.
reboot
--
NewsGuy.Com 30Gb $9.95 Carry Forward and On Demand Bandwidth
04-25-2006, 04:52 AM
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Re: WJ Teves Calipers Chronology
In article <e2hfid$3u4$1@reader1.panix.com>,
Ted Borck <tborck@panix.com> wrote:
#96 K: Replaced both front rotors, due to warped rotors - judder in
#steering wheel - but *never* smelled hot brake pads.
Wow. You made it to 96K before they warped? Mine first warped at
only 11.5K.
#98K: Left front caliper (driver side) exhibited excessive dragging (smells
#and vapor). Replaced *both* front Teves calipers.
With what? Did you replace with Teves again, or Akebono? New or
rebuilt?
#104.7K: Left front caliper (driver side) exhibited excessive dragging
#(smells and vapor smoke). Replaced left front brake line.
#
#105K: Today - Left front caliper (driver side) exhibited excessive
#dragging (smells and vapor smoke).
I think your piston boot(s) burned off. Did you see any glowing ash
dropping from the calipers while they were smoking? Mine burned off
when I got stuck in traffic. I could feel the heat from the wheel
just standing next to it.
Pull off the pads from the calipers and check to see if the rubber
around the pistons is still intact, if they are not, dirt will get
into the resin pistons and the resulting damage will cause leaks.
At the very least, replace the rubber boots on the Teves calipers.
#Does this mean that I need to remove, lubricate the caliper/brake pad
#slide areas with Neverseize, every time I change the engine oil?
#
#Anyone have a better fix?
Akebono upgrade... http://www.wjjeeps.com/brakes.htm#TSB
/herb
Ted Borck <tborck@panix.com> wrote:
#96 K: Replaced both front rotors, due to warped rotors - judder in
#steering wheel - but *never* smelled hot brake pads.
Wow. You made it to 96K before they warped? Mine first warped at
only 11.5K.
#98K: Left front caliper (driver side) exhibited excessive dragging (smells
#and vapor). Replaced *both* front Teves calipers.
With what? Did you replace with Teves again, or Akebono? New or
rebuilt?
#104.7K: Left front caliper (driver side) exhibited excessive dragging
#(smells and vapor smoke). Replaced left front brake line.
#
#105K: Today - Left front caliper (driver side) exhibited excessive
#dragging (smells and vapor smoke).
I think your piston boot(s) burned off. Did you see any glowing ash
dropping from the calipers while they were smoking? Mine burned off
when I got stuck in traffic. I could feel the heat from the wheel
just standing next to it.
Pull off the pads from the calipers and check to see if the rubber
around the pistons is still intact, if they are not, dirt will get
into the resin pistons and the resulting damage will cause leaks.
At the very least, replace the rubber boots on the Teves calipers.
#Does this mean that I need to remove, lubricate the caliper/brake pad
#slide areas with Neverseize, every time I change the engine oil?
#
#Anyone have a better fix?
Akebono upgrade... http://www.wjjeeps.com/brakes.htm#TSB
/herb
04-25-2006, 04:52 AM
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Re: WJ Teves Calipers Chronology
In article <e2hfid$3u4$1@reader1.panix.com>,
Ted Borck <tborck@panix.com> wrote:
#96 K: Replaced both front rotors, due to warped rotors - judder in
#steering wheel - but *never* smelled hot brake pads.
Wow. You made it to 96K before they warped? Mine first warped at
only 11.5K.
#98K: Left front caliper (driver side) exhibited excessive dragging (smells
#and vapor). Replaced *both* front Teves calipers.
With what? Did you replace with Teves again, or Akebono? New or
rebuilt?
#104.7K: Left front caliper (driver side) exhibited excessive dragging
#(smells and vapor smoke). Replaced left front brake line.
#
#105K: Today - Left front caliper (driver side) exhibited excessive
#dragging (smells and vapor smoke).
I think your piston boot(s) burned off. Did you see any glowing ash
dropping from the calipers while they were smoking? Mine burned off
when I got stuck in traffic. I could feel the heat from the wheel
just standing next to it.
Pull off the pads from the calipers and check to see if the rubber
around the pistons is still intact, if they are not, dirt will get
into the resin pistons and the resulting damage will cause leaks.
At the very least, replace the rubber boots on the Teves calipers.
#Does this mean that I need to remove, lubricate the caliper/brake pad
#slide areas with Neverseize, every time I change the engine oil?
#
#Anyone have a better fix?
Akebono upgrade... http://www.wjjeeps.com/brakes.htm#TSB
/herb
Ted Borck <tborck@panix.com> wrote:
#96 K: Replaced both front rotors, due to warped rotors - judder in
#steering wheel - but *never* smelled hot brake pads.
Wow. You made it to 96K before they warped? Mine first warped at
only 11.5K.
#98K: Left front caliper (driver side) exhibited excessive dragging (smells
#and vapor). Replaced *both* front Teves calipers.
With what? Did you replace with Teves again, or Akebono? New or
rebuilt?
#104.7K: Left front caliper (driver side) exhibited excessive dragging
#(smells and vapor smoke). Replaced left front brake line.
#
#105K: Today - Left front caliper (driver side) exhibited excessive
#dragging (smells and vapor smoke).
I think your piston boot(s) burned off. Did you see any glowing ash
dropping from the calipers while they were smoking? Mine burned off
when I got stuck in traffic. I could feel the heat from the wheel
just standing next to it.
Pull off the pads from the calipers and check to see if the rubber
around the pistons is still intact, if they are not, dirt will get
into the resin pistons and the resulting damage will cause leaks.
At the very least, replace the rubber boots on the Teves calipers.
#Does this mean that I need to remove, lubricate the caliper/brake pad
#slide areas with Neverseize, every time I change the engine oil?
#
#Anyone have a better fix?
Akebono upgrade... http://www.wjjeeps.com/brakes.htm#TSB
/herb
04-25-2006, 04:52 AM
#16
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Re: WJ Teves Calipers Chronology
In article <e2hfid$3u4$1@reader1.panix.com>,
Ted Borck <tborck@panix.com> wrote:
#96 K: Replaced both front rotors, due to warped rotors - judder in
#steering wheel - but *never* smelled hot brake pads.
Wow. You made it to 96K before they warped? Mine first warped at
only 11.5K.
#98K: Left front caliper (driver side) exhibited excessive dragging (smells
#and vapor). Replaced *both* front Teves calipers.
With what? Did you replace with Teves again, or Akebono? New or
rebuilt?
#104.7K: Left front caliper (driver side) exhibited excessive dragging
#(smells and vapor smoke). Replaced left front brake line.
#
#105K: Today - Left front caliper (driver side) exhibited excessive
#dragging (smells and vapor smoke).
I think your piston boot(s) burned off. Did you see any glowing ash
dropping from the calipers while they were smoking? Mine burned off
when I got stuck in traffic. I could feel the heat from the wheel
just standing next to it.
Pull off the pads from the calipers and check to see if the rubber
around the pistons is still intact, if they are not, dirt will get
into the resin pistons and the resulting damage will cause leaks.
At the very least, replace the rubber boots on the Teves calipers.
#Does this mean that I need to remove, lubricate the caliper/brake pad
#slide areas with Neverseize, every time I change the engine oil?
#
#Anyone have a better fix?
Akebono upgrade... http://www.wjjeeps.com/brakes.htm#TSB
/herb
Ted Borck <tborck@panix.com> wrote:
#96 K: Replaced both front rotors, due to warped rotors - judder in
#steering wheel - but *never* smelled hot brake pads.
Wow. You made it to 96K before they warped? Mine first warped at
only 11.5K.
#98K: Left front caliper (driver side) exhibited excessive dragging (smells
#and vapor). Replaced *both* front Teves calipers.
With what? Did you replace with Teves again, or Akebono? New or
rebuilt?
#104.7K: Left front caliper (driver side) exhibited excessive dragging
#(smells and vapor smoke). Replaced left front brake line.
#
#105K: Today - Left front caliper (driver side) exhibited excessive
#dragging (smells and vapor smoke).
I think your piston boot(s) burned off. Did you see any glowing ash
dropping from the calipers while they were smoking? Mine burned off
when I got stuck in traffic. I could feel the heat from the wheel
just standing next to it.
Pull off the pads from the calipers and check to see if the rubber
around the pistons is still intact, if they are not, dirt will get
into the resin pistons and the resulting damage will cause leaks.
At the very least, replace the rubber boots on the Teves calipers.
#Does this mean that I need to remove, lubricate the caliper/brake pad
#slide areas with Neverseize, every time I change the engine oil?
#
#Anyone have a better fix?
Akebono upgrade... http://www.wjjeeps.com/brakes.htm#TSB
/herb
04-25-2006, 10:33 AM
#17
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Re: WJ Teves Calipers Chronology
It IS possible that your 'new' Teves caliper is bad. Can you do a
warranty exchange? Also, I'd douse everything in brake cleaner prior to
reassembly.
tw
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________
Ted Borck wrote:
> 2000 WJ, 4 liter, 2WD, now with 105 K.
>
> 96 K: Replaced both front rotors, due to warped rotors - judder in
> steering wheel - but *never* smelled hot brake pads.
>
> 98K: Left front caliper (driver side) exhibited excessive dragging (smells
> and vapor). Replaced *both* front Teves calipers.
>
> 104.7K: Left front caliper (driver side) exhibited excessive dragging
> (smells and vapor smoke). Replaced left front brake line.
>
> 105K: Today - Left front caliper (driver side) exhibited excessive
> dragging (smells and vapor smoke).
>
> Stopped, let the caliper & rotor cool, and drove home (10 miles) with no
> further incident.
>
> WTF!
>
> Does this mean that I need to remove, lubricate the caliper/brake pad
> slide areas with Neverseize, every time I change the engine oil?
>
> Anyone have a better fix?
>
> --
> Ted Borck tborck@panix.com
>
>
>
warranty exchange? Also, I'd douse everything in brake cleaner prior to
reassembly.
tw
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________
Ted Borck wrote:
> 2000 WJ, 4 liter, 2WD, now with 105 K.
>
> 96 K: Replaced both front rotors, due to warped rotors - judder in
> steering wheel - but *never* smelled hot brake pads.
>
> 98K: Left front caliper (driver side) exhibited excessive dragging (smells
> and vapor). Replaced *both* front Teves calipers.
>
> 104.7K: Left front caliper (driver side) exhibited excessive dragging
> (smells and vapor smoke). Replaced left front brake line.
>
> 105K: Today - Left front caliper (driver side) exhibited excessive
> dragging (smells and vapor smoke).
>
> Stopped, let the caliper & rotor cool, and drove home (10 miles) with no
> further incident.
>
> WTF!
>
> Does this mean that I need to remove, lubricate the caliper/brake pad
> slide areas with Neverseize, every time I change the engine oil?
>
> Anyone have a better fix?
>
> --
> Ted Borck tborck@panix.com
>
>
>
04-25-2006, 10:33 AM
#18
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Re: WJ Teves Calipers Chronology
It IS possible that your 'new' Teves caliper is bad. Can you do a
warranty exchange? Also, I'd douse everything in brake cleaner prior to
reassembly.
tw
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________
Ted Borck wrote:
> 2000 WJ, 4 liter, 2WD, now with 105 K.
>
> 96 K: Replaced both front rotors, due to warped rotors - judder in
> steering wheel - but *never* smelled hot brake pads.
>
> 98K: Left front caliper (driver side) exhibited excessive dragging (smells
> and vapor). Replaced *both* front Teves calipers.
>
> 104.7K: Left front caliper (driver side) exhibited excessive dragging
> (smells and vapor smoke). Replaced left front brake line.
>
> 105K: Today - Left front caliper (driver side) exhibited excessive
> dragging (smells and vapor smoke).
>
> Stopped, let the caliper & rotor cool, and drove home (10 miles) with no
> further incident.
>
> WTF!
>
> Does this mean that I need to remove, lubricate the caliper/brake pad
> slide areas with Neverseize, every time I change the engine oil?
>
> Anyone have a better fix?
>
> --
> Ted Borck tborck@panix.com
>
>
>
warranty exchange? Also, I'd douse everything in brake cleaner prior to
reassembly.
tw
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________
Ted Borck wrote:
> 2000 WJ, 4 liter, 2WD, now with 105 K.
>
> 96 K: Replaced both front rotors, due to warped rotors - judder in
> steering wheel - but *never* smelled hot brake pads.
>
> 98K: Left front caliper (driver side) exhibited excessive dragging (smells
> and vapor). Replaced *both* front Teves calipers.
>
> 104.7K: Left front caliper (driver side) exhibited excessive dragging
> (smells and vapor smoke). Replaced left front brake line.
>
> 105K: Today - Left front caliper (driver side) exhibited excessive
> dragging (smells and vapor smoke).
>
> Stopped, let the caliper & rotor cool, and drove home (10 miles) with no
> further incident.
>
> WTF!
>
> Does this mean that I need to remove, lubricate the caliper/brake pad
> slide areas with Neverseize, every time I change the engine oil?
>
> Anyone have a better fix?
>
> --
> Ted Borck tborck@panix.com
>
>
>
04-25-2006, 10:33 AM
#19
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: WJ Teves Calipers Chronology
It IS possible that your 'new' Teves caliper is bad. Can you do a
warranty exchange? Also, I'd douse everything in brake cleaner prior to
reassembly.
tw
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
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Ted Borck wrote:
> 2000 WJ, 4 liter, 2WD, now with 105 K.
>
> 96 K: Replaced both front rotors, due to warped rotors - judder in
> steering wheel - but *never* smelled hot brake pads.
>
> 98K: Left front caliper (driver side) exhibited excessive dragging (smells
> and vapor). Replaced *both* front Teves calipers.
>
> 104.7K: Left front caliper (driver side) exhibited excessive dragging
> (smells and vapor smoke). Replaced left front brake line.
>
> 105K: Today - Left front caliper (driver side) exhibited excessive
> dragging (smells and vapor smoke).
>
> Stopped, let the caliper & rotor cool, and drove home (10 miles) with no
> further incident.
>
> WTF!
>
> Does this mean that I need to remove, lubricate the caliper/brake pad
> slide areas with Neverseize, every time I change the engine oil?
>
> Anyone have a better fix?
>
> --
> Ted Borck tborck@panix.com
>
>
>
warranty exchange? Also, I'd douse everything in brake cleaner prior to
reassembly.
tw
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________
Ted Borck wrote:
> 2000 WJ, 4 liter, 2WD, now with 105 K.
>
> 96 K: Replaced both front rotors, due to warped rotors - judder in
> steering wheel - but *never* smelled hot brake pads.
>
> 98K: Left front caliper (driver side) exhibited excessive dragging (smells
> and vapor). Replaced *both* front Teves calipers.
>
> 104.7K: Left front caliper (driver side) exhibited excessive dragging
> (smells and vapor smoke). Replaced left front brake line.
>
> 105K: Today - Left front caliper (driver side) exhibited excessive
> dragging (smells and vapor smoke).
>
> Stopped, let the caliper & rotor cool, and drove home (10 miles) with no
> further incident.
>
> WTF!
>
> Does this mean that I need to remove, lubricate the caliper/brake pad
> slide areas with Neverseize, every time I change the engine oil?
>
> Anyone have a better fix?
>
> --
> Ted Borck tborck@panix.com
>
>
>
05-06-2006, 03:00 PM
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Re: WJ Teves Calipers Chronology
twaldron <thomasOBVIOUS@rubicons.com> wrote:
> It IS possible that your 'new' Teves caliper is bad. Can you do a
> warranty exchange? Also, I'd douse everything in brake cleaner prior to
> reassembly.
It's possible - am going to remove the offending caliper, polish and
Neverseize the slides.
It's disappointing that no-one has come up with a cause diagnosis other
than replace parts. Which I did - but didn't prevent a re-occurance of
the problem.
Is it possible that when I previously R&R'd brake pads (on the original
calipers) that pressing the pads & pistons back - back back flushed some
crap out of the calipers and back up into the metal brake line?
--
Ted Borck tborck@panix.com
<snip>
> Ted Borck wrote:
> > 2000 WJ, 4 liter, 2WD, now with 105 K.
> >
> > 96 K: Replaced both front rotors, due to warped rotors - judder in
> > steering wheel - but *never* smelled hot brake pads.
> >
> > 98K: Left front caliper (driver side) exhibited excessive dragging (smells
> > and vapor). Replaced *both* front Teves calipers.
> >
> > 104.7K: Left front caliper (driver side) exhibited excessive dragging
> > (smells and vapor smoke). Replaced left front brake line.
> >
> > 105K: Today - Left front caliper (driver side) exhibited excessive
> > dragging (smells and vapor smoke).
> >
> > Stopped, let the caliper & rotor cool, and drove home (10 miles) with no
> > further incident.
> >
> > WTF!
> >
> > Does this mean that I need to remove, lubricate the caliper/brake pad
> > slide areas with Neverseize, every time I change the engine oil?
> >
> > Anyone have a better fix?
> >
> > --
> > Ted Borck tborck@panix.com
> It IS possible that your 'new' Teves caliper is bad. Can you do a
> warranty exchange? Also, I'd douse everything in brake cleaner prior to
> reassembly.
It's possible - am going to remove the offending caliper, polish and
Neverseize the slides.
It's disappointing that no-one has come up with a cause diagnosis other
than replace parts. Which I did - but didn't prevent a re-occurance of
the problem.
Is it possible that when I previously R&R'd brake pads (on the original
calipers) that pressing the pads & pistons back - back back flushed some
crap out of the calipers and back up into the metal brake line?
--
Ted Borck tborck@panix.com
<snip>
> Ted Borck wrote:
> > 2000 WJ, 4 liter, 2WD, now with 105 K.
> >
> > 96 K: Replaced both front rotors, due to warped rotors - judder in
> > steering wheel - but *never* smelled hot brake pads.
> >
> > 98K: Left front caliper (driver side) exhibited excessive dragging (smells
> > and vapor). Replaced *both* front Teves calipers.
> >
> > 104.7K: Left front caliper (driver side) exhibited excessive dragging
> > (smells and vapor smoke). Replaced left front brake line.
> >
> > 105K: Today - Left front caliper (driver side) exhibited excessive
> > dragging (smells and vapor smoke).
> >
> > Stopped, let the caliper & rotor cool, and drove home (10 miles) with no
> > further incident.
> >
> > WTF!
> >
> > Does this mean that I need to remove, lubricate the caliper/brake pad
> > slide areas with Neverseize, every time I change the engine oil?
> >
> > Anyone have a better fix?
> >
> > --
> > Ted Borck tborck@panix.com