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Re: Winches
> Like the jealousy of Real Jeeps.
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Re: Winches
Nevertheless, I think we covered this on the "top or no top" thread, but HOW
waterproof is the interior? Get it up on the dash and it gets in the cig lighter...ignition hole...cd/cassette port....vent holes on radio!? Do they make a floating Jeep with a bilge pump? "Bill" <Bill@shaw.ca> wrote in message news:4fqo80tk2nh3f0egndrmb11k6tdhdop5jt@4ax.com... > >But really....if the water level got to the height of the battery > >terminals...wouldn't that short it out? forget the water level in the cab > >getting in to those cheesy connectors that we put on our CB's and stuff.. > > One can very eaisly waterproof the battery by having it in a > waterproof container.. with sealed lid and sealed passages for the > wire.. |
Re: Winches
Nevertheless, I think we covered this on the "top or no top" thread, but HOW
waterproof is the interior? Get it up on the dash and it gets in the cig lighter...ignition hole...cd/cassette port....vent holes on radio!? Do they make a floating Jeep with a bilge pump? "Bill" <Bill@shaw.ca> wrote in message news:4fqo80tk2nh3f0egndrmb11k6tdhdop5jt@4ax.com... > >But really....if the water level got to the height of the battery > >terminals...wouldn't that short it out? forget the water level in the cab > >getting in to those cheesy connectors that we put on our CB's and stuff.. > > One can very eaisly waterproof the battery by having it in a > waterproof container.. with sealed lid and sealed passages for the > wire.. |
Re: Winches
Nevertheless, I think we covered this on the "top or no top" thread, but HOW
waterproof is the interior? Get it up on the dash and it gets in the cig lighter...ignition hole...cd/cassette port....vent holes on radio!? Do they make a floating Jeep with a bilge pump? "Bill" <Bill@shaw.ca> wrote in message news:4fqo80tk2nh3f0egndrmb11k6tdhdop5jt@4ax.com... > >But really....if the water level got to the height of the battery > >terminals...wouldn't that short it out? forget the water level in the cab > >getting in to those cheesy connectors that we put on our CB's and stuff.. > > One can very eaisly waterproof the battery by having it in a > waterproof container.. with sealed lid and sealed passages for the > wire.. |
Re: Winches
Nevertheless, I think we covered this on the "top or no top" thread, but HOW
waterproof is the interior? Get it up on the dash and it gets in the cig lighter...ignition hole...cd/cassette port....vent holes on radio!? Do they make a floating Jeep with a bilge pump? "Bill" <Bill@shaw.ca> wrote in message news:4fqo80tk2nh3f0egndrmb11k6tdhdop5jt@4ax.com... > >But really....if the water level got to the height of the battery > >terminals...wouldn't that short it out? forget the water level in the cab > >getting in to those cheesy connectors that we put on our CB's and stuff.. > > One can very eaisly waterproof the battery by having it in a > waterproof container.. with sealed lid and sealed passages for the > wire.. |
Re: Winches
So with the pluses and minuses for either type....why y'all bitchin about
people bitchin about it?! Isn't it fair to say that everyone does different types of wheeling in different types of location?! And where they get stuck will be different.....There's no winch to end all winches....no one winch will get you out of all spots.... So settle with that. I think that your average joe might be able to deal with troubleshooting an electric winch easier than hydraulics. (ie. hey, there's voltage at the terminals and the solenoid is clicking when I hit the button....winch must be pooched... OR; hey, where's all this damn fluid coming from....crap, I have no way of fixing the leak and replenishing the fluid....) In either case you're still stuck..... Know what I mean Gene?? "JIM LAIRD" <CJ & XJ Jimmie@Jeepnet.net> wrote in message news:_7Yic.49$sF3.26102@news.uswest.net... > Not to start a flame war or anything,but how often has your engine been dead > and you had to save a bus lode of nuns from the raging rapids of the largest > river known to man. > All things being equal which one would you really want to own the one that > will pull the whole bus lode of nuns up a 80' embankment at 90% and save all > there lives, or try to pull them 30' have the electric go up in smoke and > they are all left there dangling for there lives until some one with a > hydraulic winch comes to the rescue and saves all of them. > Lets get real I've sat here time and time again and heard all the horror > stories about those sad and sorry people who have regretted buying a > hydraulic winch and I just don't get it . It is just quite simply crap. You > guys that make these claims just don't get it. > If your engine is dead in the water so darn deep that it will kill your > engine than I'd like to see you power swim up the fricking river and jump > out hook up your golden winch and power swim back to your jeep if it's still > there and winch your shocked as e's out of the river. > And now I have to ask. DO you really think you can swim the English channel > as well. Lets' get real when you ad up all the pluses and minuses of each > one they all have there game. Some better then the others. I have seen them > all work and now I own a Mile Marker Hydraulic for over four years now I > have had to finish pulling people out of spots that the Electric winch > couldn't do the job. And now your trying to say just how shi ty the > hydraulic winch is and I'm ROTFLMAO. I wouldn't try and tell you how bad a > set of Boggers are in a mud hole with out having owned a set so don't try > and tell people how bad a hydraulic winch is when you've never owned one. > Grow up and start Jeeping in the real world and stop talking internet crap. > -- > CJ & XJ JIMMIE VP.of The North Iowa Off-road Club > > "Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message > news:c6h9tr02jrf@enews1.newsguy.com... > > Of course, when the "Real Jeep's" engine is dead, it is also > irretrieveably > > stuck, because (like the hydraulic-type) a PTO can't operate with anything > > but engine power. So, if you've found yourself stranded in the middle of > the > > river with a dead engine, might as well just get yourself to shore, forget > > the Jeep and hoof it back to town....whatever's left of it'll be there > after > > the spring runoff is done. With an electric winch you can ... oh, never > > mind... > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > > news:408C0A25.7CEAEBCE@cox.net... > > > Real Jeeps use Power Take Off gear driven winches, they don't over > > > heat and die before the job is done. The Wannabees may still use the > > > next best thing in hydraulic powered: > > > http://7SlotGrille.com/projects/03rubicon/mm/index.html > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > > > > > Muuurgh wrote: > > > > > > > > Who makes a good winch for a good price? Are the stock winches by > Mopar > > any > > > > good? Can I do better? > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > -Muuurgh > > > > > > |
Re: Winches
So with the pluses and minuses for either type....why y'all bitchin about
people bitchin about it?! Isn't it fair to say that everyone does different types of wheeling in different types of location?! And where they get stuck will be different.....There's no winch to end all winches....no one winch will get you out of all spots.... So settle with that. I think that your average joe might be able to deal with troubleshooting an electric winch easier than hydraulics. (ie. hey, there's voltage at the terminals and the solenoid is clicking when I hit the button....winch must be pooched... OR; hey, where's all this damn fluid coming from....crap, I have no way of fixing the leak and replenishing the fluid....) In either case you're still stuck..... Know what I mean Gene?? "JIM LAIRD" <CJ & XJ Jimmie@Jeepnet.net> wrote in message news:_7Yic.49$sF3.26102@news.uswest.net... > Not to start a flame war or anything,but how often has your engine been dead > and you had to save a bus lode of nuns from the raging rapids of the largest > river known to man. > All things being equal which one would you really want to own the one that > will pull the whole bus lode of nuns up a 80' embankment at 90% and save all > there lives, or try to pull them 30' have the electric go up in smoke and > they are all left there dangling for there lives until some one with a > hydraulic winch comes to the rescue and saves all of them. > Lets get real I've sat here time and time again and heard all the horror > stories about those sad and sorry people who have regretted buying a > hydraulic winch and I just don't get it . It is just quite simply crap. You > guys that make these claims just don't get it. > If your engine is dead in the water so darn deep that it will kill your > engine than I'd like to see you power swim up the fricking river and jump > out hook up your golden winch and power swim back to your jeep if it's still > there and winch your shocked as e's out of the river. > And now I have to ask. DO you really think you can swim the English channel > as well. Lets' get real when you ad up all the pluses and minuses of each > one they all have there game. Some better then the others. I have seen them > all work and now I own a Mile Marker Hydraulic for over four years now I > have had to finish pulling people out of spots that the Electric winch > couldn't do the job. And now your trying to say just how shi ty the > hydraulic winch is and I'm ROTFLMAO. I wouldn't try and tell you how bad a > set of Boggers are in a mud hole with out having owned a set so don't try > and tell people how bad a hydraulic winch is when you've never owned one. > Grow up and start Jeeping in the real world and stop talking internet crap. > -- > CJ & XJ JIMMIE VP.of The North Iowa Off-road Club > > "Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message > news:c6h9tr02jrf@enews1.newsguy.com... > > Of course, when the "Real Jeep's" engine is dead, it is also > irretrieveably > > stuck, because (like the hydraulic-type) a PTO can't operate with anything > > but engine power. So, if you've found yourself stranded in the middle of > the > > river with a dead engine, might as well just get yourself to shore, forget > > the Jeep and hoof it back to town....whatever's left of it'll be there > after > > the spring runoff is done. With an electric winch you can ... oh, never > > mind... > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > > news:408C0A25.7CEAEBCE@cox.net... > > > Real Jeeps use Power Take Off gear driven winches, they don't over > > > heat and die before the job is done. The Wannabees may still use the > > > next best thing in hydraulic powered: > > > http://7SlotGrille.com/projects/03rubicon/mm/index.html > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > > > > > Muuurgh wrote: > > > > > > > > Who makes a good winch for a good price? Are the stock winches by > Mopar > > any > > > > good? Can I do better? > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > -Muuurgh > > > > > > |
Re: Winches
So with the pluses and minuses for either type....why y'all bitchin about
people bitchin about it?! Isn't it fair to say that everyone does different types of wheeling in different types of location?! And where they get stuck will be different.....There's no winch to end all winches....no one winch will get you out of all spots.... So settle with that. I think that your average joe might be able to deal with troubleshooting an electric winch easier than hydraulics. (ie. hey, there's voltage at the terminals and the solenoid is clicking when I hit the button....winch must be pooched... OR; hey, where's all this damn fluid coming from....crap, I have no way of fixing the leak and replenishing the fluid....) In either case you're still stuck..... Know what I mean Gene?? "JIM LAIRD" <CJ & XJ Jimmie@Jeepnet.net> wrote in message news:_7Yic.49$sF3.26102@news.uswest.net... > Not to start a flame war or anything,but how often has your engine been dead > and you had to save a bus lode of nuns from the raging rapids of the largest > river known to man. > All things being equal which one would you really want to own the one that > will pull the whole bus lode of nuns up a 80' embankment at 90% and save all > there lives, or try to pull them 30' have the electric go up in smoke and > they are all left there dangling for there lives until some one with a > hydraulic winch comes to the rescue and saves all of them. > Lets get real I've sat here time and time again and heard all the horror > stories about those sad and sorry people who have regretted buying a > hydraulic winch and I just don't get it . It is just quite simply crap. You > guys that make these claims just don't get it. > If your engine is dead in the water so darn deep that it will kill your > engine than I'd like to see you power swim up the fricking river and jump > out hook up your golden winch and power swim back to your jeep if it's still > there and winch your shocked as e's out of the river. > And now I have to ask. DO you really think you can swim the English channel > as well. Lets' get real when you ad up all the pluses and minuses of each > one they all have there game. Some better then the others. I have seen them > all work and now I own a Mile Marker Hydraulic for over four years now I > have had to finish pulling people out of spots that the Electric winch > couldn't do the job. And now your trying to say just how shi ty the > hydraulic winch is and I'm ROTFLMAO. I wouldn't try and tell you how bad a > set of Boggers are in a mud hole with out having owned a set so don't try > and tell people how bad a hydraulic winch is when you've never owned one. > Grow up and start Jeeping in the real world and stop talking internet crap. > -- > CJ & XJ JIMMIE VP.of The North Iowa Off-road Club > > "Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message > news:c6h9tr02jrf@enews1.newsguy.com... > > Of course, when the "Real Jeep's" engine is dead, it is also > irretrieveably > > stuck, because (like the hydraulic-type) a PTO can't operate with anything > > but engine power. So, if you've found yourself stranded in the middle of > the > > river with a dead engine, might as well just get yourself to shore, forget > > the Jeep and hoof it back to town....whatever's left of it'll be there > after > > the spring runoff is done. With an electric winch you can ... oh, never > > mind... > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > > news:408C0A25.7CEAEBCE@cox.net... > > > Real Jeeps use Power Take Off gear driven winches, they don't over > > > heat and die before the job is done. The Wannabees may still use the > > > next best thing in hydraulic powered: > > > http://7SlotGrille.com/projects/03rubicon/mm/index.html > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > > > > > Muuurgh wrote: > > > > > > > > Who makes a good winch for a good price? Are the stock winches by > Mopar > > any > > > > good? Can I do better? > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > -Muuurgh > > > > > > |
Re: Winches
So with the pluses and minuses for either type....why y'all bitchin about
people bitchin about it?! Isn't it fair to say that everyone does different types of wheeling in different types of location?! And where they get stuck will be different.....There's no winch to end all winches....no one winch will get you out of all spots.... So settle with that. I think that your average joe might be able to deal with troubleshooting an electric winch easier than hydraulics. (ie. hey, there's voltage at the terminals and the solenoid is clicking when I hit the button....winch must be pooched... OR; hey, where's all this damn fluid coming from....crap, I have no way of fixing the leak and replenishing the fluid....) In either case you're still stuck..... Know what I mean Gene?? "JIM LAIRD" <CJ & XJ Jimmie@Jeepnet.net> wrote in message news:_7Yic.49$sF3.26102@news.uswest.net... > Not to start a flame war or anything,but how often has your engine been dead > and you had to save a bus lode of nuns from the raging rapids of the largest > river known to man. > All things being equal which one would you really want to own the one that > will pull the whole bus lode of nuns up a 80' embankment at 90% and save all > there lives, or try to pull them 30' have the electric go up in smoke and > they are all left there dangling for there lives until some one with a > hydraulic winch comes to the rescue and saves all of them. > Lets get real I've sat here time and time again and heard all the horror > stories about those sad and sorry people who have regretted buying a > hydraulic winch and I just don't get it . It is just quite simply crap. You > guys that make these claims just don't get it. > If your engine is dead in the water so darn deep that it will kill your > engine than I'd like to see you power swim up the fricking river and jump > out hook up your golden winch and power swim back to your jeep if it's still > there and winch your shocked as e's out of the river. > And now I have to ask. DO you really think you can swim the English channel > as well. Lets' get real when you ad up all the pluses and minuses of each > one they all have there game. Some better then the others. I have seen them > all work and now I own a Mile Marker Hydraulic for over four years now I > have had to finish pulling people out of spots that the Electric winch > couldn't do the job. And now your trying to say just how shi ty the > hydraulic winch is and I'm ROTFLMAO. I wouldn't try and tell you how bad a > set of Boggers are in a mud hole with out having owned a set so don't try > and tell people how bad a hydraulic winch is when you've never owned one. > Grow up and start Jeeping in the real world and stop talking internet crap. > -- > CJ & XJ JIMMIE VP.of The North Iowa Off-road Club > > "Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message > news:c6h9tr02jrf@enews1.newsguy.com... > > Of course, when the "Real Jeep's" engine is dead, it is also > irretrieveably > > stuck, because (like the hydraulic-type) a PTO can't operate with anything > > but engine power. So, if you've found yourself stranded in the middle of > the > > river with a dead engine, might as well just get yourself to shore, forget > > the Jeep and hoof it back to town....whatever's left of it'll be there > after > > the spring runoff is done. With an electric winch you can ... oh, never > > mind... > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > > news:408C0A25.7CEAEBCE@cox.net... > > > Real Jeeps use Power Take Off gear driven winches, they don't over > > > heat and die before the job is done. The Wannabees may still use the > > > next best thing in hydraulic powered: > > > http://7SlotGrille.com/projects/03rubicon/mm/index.html > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > > > > > Muuurgh wrote: > > > > > > > > Who makes a good winch for a good price? Are the stock winches by > Mopar > > any > > > > good? Can I do better? > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > -Muuurgh > > > > > > |
Re: Winches
In <_7Yic.49$sF3.26102@news.uswest.net> JIM LAIRD wrote:
> Lets get real I've > sat here time and time again and heard all the horror stories about > those sad and sorry people who have regretted buying a hydraulic winch > and I just don't get it . It is just quite simply crap. The complaints are usually second or third hand as far as that goes. I've got a Milemarker hydraulic and I certainly don't regret having bought it. The only possible complaint is that it is slow, but if I need to winch it isn't like I am going anywhere fast anyway. And with the power available, I can know with certainty that something is getting unstuck, whether it is the Jeep or whatever I have the other end of the cable connected to. ---------------------------------------------------- Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email. Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website: http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/ |
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