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Del Rawlins 04-25-2004 10:28 PM

Re: Winches
 
In <c6hkfk1243@enews2.newsguy.com> Jerry McG wrote:
> Spoken like someone who's invested a lot of money in a hydraulic
> winch....Bill knows better, he uses the PTO and all the Nuns, well,
> they're waiting for him to get the Real Jeeps 4 banger started...


What I don't get, is he makes up a hypothetical situation and could have
chosen a busload of anything, and he picks NUNS??? Personally I would
have chosen to save a bus carrying members of the swedish bikini team,
or maybe help Angelina Jolie pull out her "Tomb Raider" jeep which is
stuck because its electric winch died. 8^)

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L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 04-25-2004 10:49 PM

Re: Winches
 
I would say you would SOL when the water level reached the cooling
vents of the Warn winch motor:
http://www.warn.com/truck/winches/sr...55/95ti_lg.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Bill wrote:
>
> Not if setup properly.. I had a vehicle almost completly submersed
> in water.. Your PTO on your "real" (bs) jeep wouldn't have done a
> thing for you..
> Had it been your "real" (bs) jeep you'd have been looking forward to
> a three day walk in sub-zero temperatures.. With little effort that
> electric winch was able to pull the us out, and pull start the
> vehicle, luckly the engine was well sealed and the water was just shy
> of the snorkle so none got in..
>
> All this "real" crap just makes you look somewhat like an ass you do
> realize...


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 04-25-2004 10:49 PM

Re: Winches
 
I would say you would SOL when the water level reached the cooling
vents of the Warn winch motor:
http://www.warn.com/truck/winches/sr...55/95ti_lg.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Bill wrote:
>
> Not if setup properly.. I had a vehicle almost completly submersed
> in water.. Your PTO on your "real" (bs) jeep wouldn't have done a
> thing for you..
> Had it been your "real" (bs) jeep you'd have been looking forward to
> a three day walk in sub-zero temperatures.. With little effort that
> electric winch was able to pull the us out, and pull start the
> vehicle, luckly the engine was well sealed and the water was just shy
> of the snorkle so none got in..
>
> All this "real" crap just makes you look somewhat like an ass you do
> realize...


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 04-25-2004 10:49 PM

Re: Winches
 
I would say you would SOL when the water level reached the cooling
vents of the Warn winch motor:
http://www.warn.com/truck/winches/sr...55/95ti_lg.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Bill wrote:
>
> Not if setup properly.. I had a vehicle almost completly submersed
> in water.. Your PTO on your "real" (bs) jeep wouldn't have done a
> thing for you..
> Had it been your "real" (bs) jeep you'd have been looking forward to
> a three day walk in sub-zero temperatures.. With little effort that
> electric winch was able to pull the us out, and pull start the
> vehicle, luckly the engine was well sealed and the water was just shy
> of the snorkle so none got in..
>
> All this "real" crap just makes you look somewhat like an ass you do
> realize...


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 04-25-2004 10:49 PM

Re: Winches
 
I would say you would SOL when the water level reached the cooling
vents of the Warn winch motor:
http://www.warn.com/truck/winches/sr...55/95ti_lg.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Bill wrote:
>
> Not if setup properly.. I had a vehicle almost completly submersed
> in water.. Your PTO on your "real" (bs) jeep wouldn't have done a
> thing for you..
> Had it been your "real" (bs) jeep you'd have been looking forward to
> a three day walk in sub-zero temperatures.. With little effort that
> electric winch was able to pull the us out, and pull start the
> vehicle, luckly the engine was well sealed and the water was just shy
> of the snorkle so none got in..
>
> All this "real" crap just makes you look somewhat like an ass you do
> realize...


Paul Calman 04-25-2004 10:52 PM

Re: Winches
 
If my engine is underwater, it is unlikely that I'm going to use my winch to
get out. Boat ramps go pretty deep around here, and the rivers have
hellacious currents. I don't like having to flush all my fluids often and
replace rust-pitted bearings, so I avoid deep crossings.

It is far more likely that i would be flipped off of a road and into the
trees around here. Plenty of anchors, and very steep hills. I figure if I
roll off a trail, I have a 25% chance of landing in a position where I can
run the engine. If there is no one else around, that winch is all I have to
get it back up. An electric and some snatchblocks will handle that.

I'll leave the Nun's empty bus for the towtrucks, they have insurance for
that kind of liability.

--
Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California



Paul Calman 04-25-2004 10:52 PM

Re: Winches
 
If my engine is underwater, it is unlikely that I'm going to use my winch to
get out. Boat ramps go pretty deep around here, and the rivers have
hellacious currents. I don't like having to flush all my fluids often and
replace rust-pitted bearings, so I avoid deep crossings.

It is far more likely that i would be flipped off of a road and into the
trees around here. Plenty of anchors, and very steep hills. I figure if I
roll off a trail, I have a 25% chance of landing in a position where I can
run the engine. If there is no one else around, that winch is all I have to
get it back up. An electric and some snatchblocks will handle that.

I'll leave the Nun's empty bus for the towtrucks, they have insurance for
that kind of liability.

--
Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California



Paul Calman 04-25-2004 10:52 PM

Re: Winches
 
If my engine is underwater, it is unlikely that I'm going to use my winch to
get out. Boat ramps go pretty deep around here, and the rivers have
hellacious currents. I don't like having to flush all my fluids often and
replace rust-pitted bearings, so I avoid deep crossings.

It is far more likely that i would be flipped off of a road and into the
trees around here. Plenty of anchors, and very steep hills. I figure if I
roll off a trail, I have a 25% chance of landing in a position where I can
run the engine. If there is no one else around, that winch is all I have to
get it back up. An electric and some snatchblocks will handle that.

I'll leave the Nun's empty bus for the towtrucks, they have insurance for
that kind of liability.

--
Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California



Paul Calman 04-25-2004 10:52 PM

Re: Winches
 
If my engine is underwater, it is unlikely that I'm going to use my winch to
get out. Boat ramps go pretty deep around here, and the rivers have
hellacious currents. I don't like having to flush all my fluids often and
replace rust-pitted bearings, so I avoid deep crossings.

It is far more likely that i would be flipped off of a road and into the
trees around here. Plenty of anchors, and very steep hills. I figure if I
roll off a trail, I have a 25% chance of landing in a position where I can
run the engine. If there is no one else around, that winch is all I have to
get it back up. An electric and some snatchblocks will handle that.

I'll leave the Nun's empty bus for the towtrucks, they have insurance for
that kind of liability.

--
Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California



L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 04-25-2004 10:58 PM

Re: Winches
 
Real Jeeps have "submersion ability of 72" or 6' underwater when
equipped with the air and exhaust snorkel":
http://www.omencity.com/thetedster/j.../earlyjeep.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Bill wrote:
>
> Not if setup properly.. I had a vehicle almost completly submersed
> in water.. Your PTO on your "real" (bs) jeep wouldn't have done a
> thing for you..
> Had it been your "real" (bs) jeep you'd have been looking forward to
> a three day walk in sub-zero temperatures.. With little effort that
> electric winch was able to pull the us out, and pull start the
> vehicle, luckly the engine was well sealed and the water was just shy
> of the snorkle so none got in..
>
> All this "real" crap just makes you look somewhat like an ass you do
> realize...



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