the hand crank one I'm thinking of wouldn't let you spool too much on it
before it got messy.
I'm thinking more about bend radius' on the cable--you couldn't spool it
tight which means you couldn't keep a lot on it....which means you probably
wouldn't get much more than 10feet pulled before having to reset...
But reading mike's post it sounds likea come-along isn't too different as
far as distance pulled...

I fear this is getting closer to a debate! Just need someone on the grassy
knoll!
"Shaggie" <me@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:803r809qhf4gp7qsg755ss5prs987qhlgd@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 22:10:23 GMT, "SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >why is one any better than the other?! (not trying to start another
> >winching debate!).
>
> OK, that's a fair question. The hand-operated winch I had was a LOT
> easier to use than the come-along I had. It was faster and easier to
> use and even stored better because the cable was more wrapped up on
> the spool than the come-along. My come-along must not have had as
> good of leverage to it too because it would wear me out just moving my
> baja 10 feet with it. Just my personal experience/opinion. Also not
> trying to start a debate. :-)
>
> >
> >We picked up a Tirfor at work (do a google on that).
> >Can't remember how much they said it'd lift/pull (different models). but
we
> >just insert the raw end of the cable and the other end has the little
loop
> >on it, then just hammer back on a lever and it pulls the steel rope in.
> >
> >I'll see if I can find the info on it....
> >
> >
> >"Shaggie" <me@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:8puq80ls7aq0iepmrmajggfnhd6n79ru7u@4ax.com.. .
> >> On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 20:02:59 GMT, Steve <xjlifter@bogus.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >SB wrote:
> >> >> Does anyone else carry the old tried and tested method of a
> >come-a-long?
> >> >
> >> >I do. It has got me unstuck many times. Takes a bit of work though.
> >> >Often have to crank it as much as it can take and then go back to the
> >> >vehicle and apply some gas or the hi-lift to gain an inch or two and
> >> >then back to the come-along and repeat. So far, I've only been stuck
> >> >once where the come-along didn't cut it.
> >> >
> >> >Steve
> >>
> >> I used to, but only for a while for my baja. Even a hand-cranked
> >> winch is better (in my opinion) than a come-along. A come-along is
> >> better than nothing, but that's about it.
> >>
> >> "I can hammer it back into shape later."
> >> :wq!
> >
>
> "I can hammer it back into shape later."
> :wq!

 

wouldn't turn..?! is that to do with a serpentine belt going to the rad fan
too?
Blades that big need lots o'power to turn in water....


"Nathan W. Collier" <Spam@Blocker.com> wrote in message
news:3Wfjc.60564$yv.2010575@twister.southeast.rr.c om...
> "Fred W." <Fred.Wills@allspam myrealbox.com> wrote in message
> news:67mdnQxgsPHY0xDdRVn-jg@adelphia.com...
> > Ummm, not quite Nathan. Amperage makes no difference in this situation.
>
> i have to respectfully disagree. i dropped my old snorkeled '82 toyota
4x4
> in a hole that ended up being a lot deeper than i thought. the lights
would
> run with the battery under water, but the starter wouldnt turn the truck
> engine over. once we pulled it out it cranked and ran fine.
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
> http://7SlotGrille.com
>
> "....a talking bird is a freak" - Mr. Ed
>
>
>

 

wouldn't turn..?! is that to do with a serpentine belt going to the rad fan
too?
Blades that big need lots o'power to turn in water....


"Nathan W. Collier" <Spam@Blocker.com> wrote in message
news:3Wfjc.60564$yv.2010575@twister.southeast.rr.c om...
> "Fred W." <Fred.Wills@allspam myrealbox.com> wrote in message
> news:67mdnQxgsPHY0xDdRVn-jg@adelphia.com...
> > Ummm, not quite Nathan. Amperage makes no difference in this situation.
>
> i have to respectfully disagree. i dropped my old snorkeled '82 toyota
4x4
> in a hole that ended up being a lot deeper than i thought. the lights
would
> run with the battery under water, but the starter wouldnt turn the truck
> engine over. once we pulled it out it cranked and ran fine.
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
> http://7SlotGrille.com
>
> "....a talking bird is a freak" - Mr. Ed
>
>
>

 

wouldn't turn..?! is that to do with a serpentine belt going to the rad fan
too?
Blades that big need lots o'power to turn in water....


"Nathan W. Collier" <Spam@Blocker.com> wrote in message
news:3Wfjc.60564$yv.2010575@twister.southeast.rr.c om...
> "Fred W." <Fred.Wills@allspam myrealbox.com> wrote in message
> news:67mdnQxgsPHY0xDdRVn-jg@adelphia.com...
> > Ummm, not quite Nathan. Amperage makes no difference in this situation.
>
> i have to respectfully disagree. i dropped my old snorkeled '82 toyota
4x4
> in a hole that ended up being a lot deeper than i thought. the lights
would
> run with the battery under water, but the starter wouldnt turn the truck
> engine over. once we pulled it out it cranked and ran fine.
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
> http://7SlotGrille.com
>
> "....a talking bird is a freak" - Mr. Ed
>
>
>

 

wouldn't turn..?! is that to do with a serpentine belt going to the rad fan
too?
Blades that big need lots o'power to turn in water....


"Nathan W. Collier" <Spam@Blocker.com> wrote in message
news:3Wfjc.60564$yv.2010575@twister.southeast.rr.c om...
> "Fred W." <Fred.Wills@allspam myrealbox.com> wrote in message
> news:67mdnQxgsPHY0xDdRVn-jg@adelphia.com...
> > Ummm, not quite Nathan. Amperage makes no difference in this situation.
>
> i have to respectfully disagree. i dropped my old snorkeled '82 toyota
4x4
> in a hole that ended up being a lot deeper than i thought. the lights
would
> run with the battery under water, but the starter wouldnt turn the truck
> engine over. once we pulled it out it cranked and ran fine.
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
> http://7SlotGrille.com
>
> "....a talking bird is a freak" - Mr. Ed
>
>
>

 

On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 16:07:40 -0700, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@***.net> wrote:

> Engine high centered on a rut we can't even see. Baja Ha Ha.

If you can't see a rut then how do you come to the conclusion that it
was high-centered on one? Have you ever experienced "Carolina Mud?"
heh heh It can be some SLICK stuff. The day I took that picture it
had been raining all morning. That was a WHIMP hill I'd been up
dozens of times in the past, but that day the mud was so slippery from
the rain that it was just crazy. Not the kind of mud you get bogged
down it. It's that red clay. It's like semi-hard packed regular mud
mixed in with motor oil or something. Once your tires load up you
ain't goin' NOWHERE. Bottom line: I had a baja. I got stuck. I got
myself unstuck. I bought a Jeep and continue to have fun in the mud,
only now it's easier to get unstuck by using an electric winch. If
you don't get stuck then you ain't playin' hard enough. I thought you
drove a "Real Jeep" and knew that, Bill. :-)


"I can hammer it back into shape later."
:wq!

 

On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 16:07:40 -0700, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@***.net> wrote:

> Engine high centered on a rut we can't even see. Baja Ha Ha.

If you can't see a rut then how do you come to the conclusion that it
was high-centered on one? Have you ever experienced "Carolina Mud?"
heh heh It can be some SLICK stuff. The day I took that picture it
had been raining all morning. That was a WHIMP hill I'd been up
dozens of times in the past, but that day the mud was so slippery from
the rain that it was just crazy. Not the kind of mud you get bogged
down it. It's that red clay. It's like semi-hard packed regular mud
mixed in with motor oil or something. Once your tires load up you
ain't goin' NOWHERE. Bottom line: I had a baja. I got stuck. I got
myself unstuck. I bought a Jeep and continue to have fun in the mud,
only now it's easier to get unstuck by using an electric winch. If
you don't get stuck then you ain't playin' hard enough. I thought you
drove a "Real Jeep" and knew that, Bill. :-)


"I can hammer it back into shape later."
:wq!

 

On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 16:07:40 -0700, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@***.net> wrote:

> Engine high centered on a rut we can't even see. Baja Ha Ha.

If you can't see a rut then how do you come to the conclusion that it
was high-centered on one? Have you ever experienced "Carolina Mud?"
heh heh It can be some SLICK stuff. The day I took that picture it
had been raining all morning. That was a WHIMP hill I'd been up
dozens of times in the past, but that day the mud was so slippery from
the rain that it was just crazy. Not the kind of mud you get bogged
down it. It's that red clay. It's like semi-hard packed regular mud
mixed in with motor oil or something. Once your tires load up you
ain't goin' NOWHERE. Bottom line: I had a baja. I got stuck. I got
myself unstuck. I bought a Jeep and continue to have fun in the mud,
only now it's easier to get unstuck by using an electric winch. If
you don't get stuck then you ain't playin' hard enough. I thought you
drove a "Real Jeep" and knew that, Bill. :-)


"I can hammer it back into shape later."
:wq!

 

On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 16:07:40 -0700, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@***.net> wrote:

> Engine high centered on a rut we can't even see. Baja Ha Ha.

If you can't see a rut then how do you come to the conclusion that it
was high-centered on one? Have you ever experienced "Carolina Mud?"
heh heh It can be some SLICK stuff. The day I took that picture it
had been raining all morning. That was a WHIMP hill I'd been up
dozens of times in the past, but that day the mud was so slippery from
the rain that it was just crazy. Not the kind of mud you get bogged
down it. It's that red clay. It's like semi-hard packed regular mud
mixed in with motor oil or something. Once your tires load up you
ain't goin' NOWHERE. Bottom line: I had a baja. I got stuck. I got
myself unstuck. I bought a Jeep and continue to have fun in the mud,
only now it's easier to get unstuck by using an electric winch. If
you don't get stuck then you ain't playin' hard enough. I thought you
drove a "Real Jeep" and knew that, Bill. :-)


"I can hammer it back into shape later."
:wq!

 

When I get stuck we don't have guess why:
http://www.----------.com/stuck.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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Shaggie wrote:
>
> If you can't see a rut then how do you come to the conclusion that it
> was high-centered on one? Have you ever experienced "Carolina Mud?"
> heh heh It can be some SLICK stuff. The day I took that picture it
> had been raining all morning. That was a WHIMP hill I'd been up
> dozens of times in the past, but that day the mud was so slippery from
> the rain that it was just crazy. Not the kind of mud you get bogged
> down it. It's that red clay. It's like semi-hard packed regular mud
> mixed in with motor oil or something. Once your tires load up you
> ain't goin' NOWHERE. Bottom line: I had a baja. I got stuck. I got
> myself unstuck. I bought a Jeep and continue to have fun in the mud,
> only now it's easier to get unstuck by using an electric winch. If
> you don't get stuck then you ain't playin' hard enough. I thought you
> drove a "Real Jeep" and knew that, Bill. :-)
>
> "I can hammer it back into shape later."
> :wq!