Winches
#111
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Winches
Real Jeeps have "submersion ability of 72" or 6' underwater when
equipped with the air and exhaust snorkel":
http://www.omencity.com/thetedster/j.../earlyjeep.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Bill wrote:
>
> Not if setup properly.. I had a vehicle almost completly submersed
> in water.. Your PTO on your "real" (bs) jeep wouldn't have done a
> thing for you..
> Had it been your "real" (bs) jeep you'd have been looking forward to
> a three day walk in sub-zero temperatures.. With little effort that
> electric winch was able to pull the us out, and pull start the
> vehicle, luckly the engine was well sealed and the water was just shy
> of the snorkle so none got in..
>
> All this "real" crap just makes you look somewhat like an *** you do
> realize...
equipped with the air and exhaust snorkel":
http://www.omencity.com/thetedster/j.../earlyjeep.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Bill wrote:
>
> Not if setup properly.. I had a vehicle almost completly submersed
> in water.. Your PTO on your "real" (bs) jeep wouldn't have done a
> thing for you..
> Had it been your "real" (bs) jeep you'd have been looking forward to
> a three day walk in sub-zero temperatures.. With little effort that
> electric winch was able to pull the us out, and pull start the
> vehicle, luckly the engine was well sealed and the water was just shy
> of the snorkle so none got in..
>
> All this "real" crap just makes you look somewhat like an *** you do
> realize...
#112
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Winches
Real Jeeps have "submersion ability of 72" or 6' underwater when
equipped with the air and exhaust snorkel":
http://www.omencity.com/thetedster/j.../earlyjeep.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Bill wrote:
>
> Not if setup properly.. I had a vehicle almost completly submersed
> in water.. Your PTO on your "real" (bs) jeep wouldn't have done a
> thing for you..
> Had it been your "real" (bs) jeep you'd have been looking forward to
> a three day walk in sub-zero temperatures.. With little effort that
> electric winch was able to pull the us out, and pull start the
> vehicle, luckly the engine was well sealed and the water was just shy
> of the snorkle so none got in..
>
> All this "real" crap just makes you look somewhat like an *** you do
> realize...
equipped with the air and exhaust snorkel":
http://www.omencity.com/thetedster/j.../earlyjeep.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Bill wrote:
>
> Not if setup properly.. I had a vehicle almost completly submersed
> in water.. Your PTO on your "real" (bs) jeep wouldn't have done a
> thing for you..
> Had it been your "real" (bs) jeep you'd have been looking forward to
> a three day walk in sub-zero temperatures.. With little effort that
> electric winch was able to pull the us out, and pull start the
> vehicle, luckly the engine was well sealed and the water was just shy
> of the snorkle so none got in..
>
> All this "real" crap just makes you look somewhat like an *** you do
> realize...
#113
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Winches
Real Jeeps have "submersion ability of 72" or 6' underwater when
equipped with the air and exhaust snorkel":
http://www.omencity.com/thetedster/j.../earlyjeep.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Bill wrote:
>
> Not if setup properly.. I had a vehicle almost completly submersed
> in water.. Your PTO on your "real" (bs) jeep wouldn't have done a
> thing for you..
> Had it been your "real" (bs) jeep you'd have been looking forward to
> a three day walk in sub-zero temperatures.. With little effort that
> electric winch was able to pull the us out, and pull start the
> vehicle, luckly the engine was well sealed and the water was just shy
> of the snorkle so none got in..
>
> All this "real" crap just makes you look somewhat like an *** you do
> realize...
equipped with the air and exhaust snorkel":
http://www.omencity.com/thetedster/j.../earlyjeep.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Bill wrote:
>
> Not if setup properly.. I had a vehicle almost completly submersed
> in water.. Your PTO on your "real" (bs) jeep wouldn't have done a
> thing for you..
> Had it been your "real" (bs) jeep you'd have been looking forward to
> a three day walk in sub-zero temperatures.. With little effort that
> electric winch was able to pull the us out, and pull start the
> vehicle, luckly the engine was well sealed and the water was just shy
> of the snorkle so none got in..
>
> All this "real" crap just makes you look somewhat like an *** you do
> realize...
#114
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Winches
That is just what I said . My point was not to be telling people that one
product is worst then another with out knowing the true facts. You buy what
you think will work for you . And after you have and "IF" it isn't as good a
product as you though it would be at least be man enough to admit it or say
so. When people ask for advise in this news group they expect to get the
truth and not a bunch of half baked --------. You may not always agree with
Bill, but at least he does try to give people all the help he can. And he is
pretty darn honest about it. He has said something's on here that I have
not liked ,but I don't feel like he's the biggest ---- head I've ever met.
Bill never got on here and ever claimed to my knowledge that he was perfect.
But he is pretty knowledgeable.
There have been alot of people on this News Group over the last I think 5
years or so that I have been on here. That have given alot of great advise.
Mike in Canada, Bill in Cal, Jerry in cal. and the list goes on and on and
all these guys have tried to do there best. And my point is if you come on
here just to knock people around on here then you have the wrong News Group.
I happen to think that Elec. Hydulic, or pto's all have there uses' and all
have there own draw backs. But when People start knocking a product that
someone else has and you can tell that they don't know a darn thing about
them than that is what is bad because people can get the Idea that a product
is crappie. Just because that person is running there mouth off. Do you see
what I mean???
--
CJ & XJ JIMMIE VP.of The North Iowa Off-road Club
"SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:2j_ic.265476$2oI1.52881@twister01.bloor.is.ne t.cable.rogers.com...
> So with the pluses and minuses for either type....why y'all bitchin about
> people bitchin about it?!
> Isn't it fair to say that everyone does different types of wheeling in
> different types of location?!
> And where they get stuck will be different.....There's no winch to end all
> winches....no one winch will get you out of all spots....
>
> So settle with that. I think that your average joe might be able to deal
> with troubleshooting an electric winch easier than hydraulics. (ie. hey,
> there's voltage at the terminals and the solenoid is clicking when I hit
the
> button....winch must be pooched... OR; hey, where's all this damn fluid
> coming from....crap, I have no way of fixing the leak and replenishing the
> fluid....)
>
> In either case you're still stuck.....
>
> Know what I mean Gene??
>
> "JIM LAIRD" <CJ & XJ Jimmie@Jeepnet.net> wrote in message
> news:_7Yic.49$sF3.26102@news.uswest.net...
> > Not to start a flame war or anything,but how often has your engine been
> dead
> > and you had to save a bus lode of nuns from the raging rapids of the
> largest
> > river known to man.
> > All things being equal which one would you really want to own the one
that
> > will pull the whole bus lode of nuns up a 80' embankment at 90% and save
> all
> > there lives, or try to pull them 30' have the electric go up in smoke
and
> > they are all left there dangling for there lives until some one with a
> > hydraulic winch comes to the rescue and saves all of them.
> > Lets get real I've sat here time and time again and heard all the horror
> > stories about those sad and sorry people who have regretted buying a
> > hydraulic winch and I just don't get it . It is just quite simply crap.
> You
> > guys that make these claims just don't get it.
> > If your engine is dead in the water so darn deep that it will kill your
> > engine than I'd like to see you power swim up the fricking river and
jump
> > out hook up your golden winch and power swim back to your jeep if it's
> still
> > there and winch your shocked as e's out of the river.
> > And now I have to ask. DO you really think you can swim the English
> channel
> > as well. Lets' get real when you ad up all the pluses and minuses of
> each
> > one they all have there game. Some better then the others. I have seen
> them
> > all work and now I own a Mile Marker Hydraulic for over four years now I
> > have had to finish pulling people out of spots that the Electric winch
> > couldn't do the job. And now your trying to say just how shi ty the
> > hydraulic winch is and I'm ROTFLMAO. I wouldn't try and tell you how
bad
> a
> > set of Boggers are in a mud hole with out having owned a set so don't
try
> > and tell people how bad a hydraulic winch is when you've never owned
one.
> > Grow up and start Jeeping in the real world and stop talking internet
> crap.
> > --
> > CJ & XJ JIMMIE VP.of The North Iowa Off-road Club
> >
> > "Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message
> > news:c6h9tr02jrf@enews1.newsguy.com...
> > > Of course, when the "Real Jeep's" engine is dead, it is also
> > irretrieveably
> > > stuck, because (like the hydraulic-type) a PTO can't operate with
> anything
> > > but engine power. So, if you've found yourself stranded in the middle
of
> > the
> > > river with a dead engine, might as well just get yourself to shore,
> forget
> > > the Jeep and hoof it back to town....whatever's left of it'll be there
> > after
> > > the spring runoff is done. With an electric winch you can ... oh,
never
> > > mind...
> > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > > news:408C0A25.7CEAEBCE@***.net...
> > > > Real Jeeps use Power Take Off gear driven winches, they don't
> over
> > > > heat and die before the job is done. The Wannabees may still use
the
> > > > next best thing in hydraulic powered:
> > > > http://7SlotGrille.com/projects/03rubicon/mm/index.html
> > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > > >
> > > > Muuurgh wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Who makes a good winch for a good price? Are the stock winches by
> > Mopar
> > > any
> > > > > good? Can I do better?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > -Muuurgh
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
product is worst then another with out knowing the true facts. You buy what
you think will work for you . And after you have and "IF" it isn't as good a
product as you though it would be at least be man enough to admit it or say
so. When people ask for advise in this news group they expect to get the
truth and not a bunch of half baked --------. You may not always agree with
Bill, but at least he does try to give people all the help he can. And he is
pretty darn honest about it. He has said something's on here that I have
not liked ,but I don't feel like he's the biggest ---- head I've ever met.
Bill never got on here and ever claimed to my knowledge that he was perfect.
But he is pretty knowledgeable.
There have been alot of people on this News Group over the last I think 5
years or so that I have been on here. That have given alot of great advise.
Mike in Canada, Bill in Cal, Jerry in cal. and the list goes on and on and
all these guys have tried to do there best. And my point is if you come on
here just to knock people around on here then you have the wrong News Group.
I happen to think that Elec. Hydulic, or pto's all have there uses' and all
have there own draw backs. But when People start knocking a product that
someone else has and you can tell that they don't know a darn thing about
them than that is what is bad because people can get the Idea that a product
is crappie. Just because that person is running there mouth off. Do you see
what I mean???
--
CJ & XJ JIMMIE VP.of The North Iowa Off-road Club
"SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:2j_ic.265476$2oI1.52881@twister01.bloor.is.ne t.cable.rogers.com...
> So with the pluses and minuses for either type....why y'all bitchin about
> people bitchin about it?!
> Isn't it fair to say that everyone does different types of wheeling in
> different types of location?!
> And where they get stuck will be different.....There's no winch to end all
> winches....no one winch will get you out of all spots....
>
> So settle with that. I think that your average joe might be able to deal
> with troubleshooting an electric winch easier than hydraulics. (ie. hey,
> there's voltage at the terminals and the solenoid is clicking when I hit
the
> button....winch must be pooched... OR; hey, where's all this damn fluid
> coming from....crap, I have no way of fixing the leak and replenishing the
> fluid....)
>
> In either case you're still stuck.....
>
> Know what I mean Gene??
>
> "JIM LAIRD" <CJ & XJ Jimmie@Jeepnet.net> wrote in message
> news:_7Yic.49$sF3.26102@news.uswest.net...
> > Not to start a flame war or anything,but how often has your engine been
> dead
> > and you had to save a bus lode of nuns from the raging rapids of the
> largest
> > river known to man.
> > All things being equal which one would you really want to own the one
that
> > will pull the whole bus lode of nuns up a 80' embankment at 90% and save
> all
> > there lives, or try to pull them 30' have the electric go up in smoke
and
> > they are all left there dangling for there lives until some one with a
> > hydraulic winch comes to the rescue and saves all of them.
> > Lets get real I've sat here time and time again and heard all the horror
> > stories about those sad and sorry people who have regretted buying a
> > hydraulic winch and I just don't get it . It is just quite simply crap.
> You
> > guys that make these claims just don't get it.
> > If your engine is dead in the water so darn deep that it will kill your
> > engine than I'd like to see you power swim up the fricking river and
jump
> > out hook up your golden winch and power swim back to your jeep if it's
> still
> > there and winch your shocked as e's out of the river.
> > And now I have to ask. DO you really think you can swim the English
> channel
> > as well. Lets' get real when you ad up all the pluses and minuses of
> each
> > one they all have there game. Some better then the others. I have seen
> them
> > all work and now I own a Mile Marker Hydraulic for over four years now I
> > have had to finish pulling people out of spots that the Electric winch
> > couldn't do the job. And now your trying to say just how shi ty the
> > hydraulic winch is and I'm ROTFLMAO. I wouldn't try and tell you how
bad
> a
> > set of Boggers are in a mud hole with out having owned a set so don't
try
> > and tell people how bad a hydraulic winch is when you've never owned
one.
> > Grow up and start Jeeping in the real world and stop talking internet
> crap.
> > --
> > CJ & XJ JIMMIE VP.of The North Iowa Off-road Club
> >
> > "Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message
> > news:c6h9tr02jrf@enews1.newsguy.com...
> > > Of course, when the "Real Jeep's" engine is dead, it is also
> > irretrieveably
> > > stuck, because (like the hydraulic-type) a PTO can't operate with
> anything
> > > but engine power. So, if you've found yourself stranded in the middle
of
> > the
> > > river with a dead engine, might as well just get yourself to shore,
> forget
> > > the Jeep and hoof it back to town....whatever's left of it'll be there
> > after
> > > the spring runoff is done. With an electric winch you can ... oh,
never
> > > mind...
> > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > > news:408C0A25.7CEAEBCE@***.net...
> > > > Real Jeeps use Power Take Off gear driven winches, they don't
> over
> > > > heat and die before the job is done. The Wannabees may still use
the
> > > > next best thing in hydraulic powered:
> > > > http://7SlotGrille.com/projects/03rubicon/mm/index.html
> > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > > >
> > > > Muuurgh wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Who makes a good winch for a good price? Are the stock winches by
> > Mopar
> > > any
> > > > > good? Can I do better?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > -Muuurgh
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
#115
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Winches
That is just what I said . My point was not to be telling people that one
product is worst then another with out knowing the true facts. You buy what
you think will work for you . And after you have and "IF" it isn't as good a
product as you though it would be at least be man enough to admit it or say
so. When people ask for advise in this news group they expect to get the
truth and not a bunch of half baked --------. You may not always agree with
Bill, but at least he does try to give people all the help he can. And he is
pretty darn honest about it. He has said something's on here that I have
not liked ,but I don't feel like he's the biggest ---- head I've ever met.
Bill never got on here and ever claimed to my knowledge that he was perfect.
But he is pretty knowledgeable.
There have been alot of people on this News Group over the last I think 5
years or so that I have been on here. That have given alot of great advise.
Mike in Canada, Bill in Cal, Jerry in cal. and the list goes on and on and
all these guys have tried to do there best. And my point is if you come on
here just to knock people around on here then you have the wrong News Group.
I happen to think that Elec. Hydulic, or pto's all have there uses' and all
have there own draw backs. But when People start knocking a product that
someone else has and you can tell that they don't know a darn thing about
them than that is what is bad because people can get the Idea that a product
is crappie. Just because that person is running there mouth off. Do you see
what I mean???
--
CJ & XJ JIMMIE VP.of The North Iowa Off-road Club
"SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:2j_ic.265476$2oI1.52881@twister01.bloor.is.ne t.cable.rogers.com...
> So with the pluses and minuses for either type....why y'all bitchin about
> people bitchin about it?!
> Isn't it fair to say that everyone does different types of wheeling in
> different types of location?!
> And where they get stuck will be different.....There's no winch to end all
> winches....no one winch will get you out of all spots....
>
> So settle with that. I think that your average joe might be able to deal
> with troubleshooting an electric winch easier than hydraulics. (ie. hey,
> there's voltage at the terminals and the solenoid is clicking when I hit
the
> button....winch must be pooched... OR; hey, where's all this damn fluid
> coming from....crap, I have no way of fixing the leak and replenishing the
> fluid....)
>
> In either case you're still stuck.....
>
> Know what I mean Gene??
>
> "JIM LAIRD" <CJ & XJ Jimmie@Jeepnet.net> wrote in message
> news:_7Yic.49$sF3.26102@news.uswest.net...
> > Not to start a flame war or anything,but how often has your engine been
> dead
> > and you had to save a bus lode of nuns from the raging rapids of the
> largest
> > river known to man.
> > All things being equal which one would you really want to own the one
that
> > will pull the whole bus lode of nuns up a 80' embankment at 90% and save
> all
> > there lives, or try to pull them 30' have the electric go up in smoke
and
> > they are all left there dangling for there lives until some one with a
> > hydraulic winch comes to the rescue and saves all of them.
> > Lets get real I've sat here time and time again and heard all the horror
> > stories about those sad and sorry people who have regretted buying a
> > hydraulic winch and I just don't get it . It is just quite simply crap.
> You
> > guys that make these claims just don't get it.
> > If your engine is dead in the water so darn deep that it will kill your
> > engine than I'd like to see you power swim up the fricking river and
jump
> > out hook up your golden winch and power swim back to your jeep if it's
> still
> > there and winch your shocked as e's out of the river.
> > And now I have to ask. DO you really think you can swim the English
> channel
> > as well. Lets' get real when you ad up all the pluses and minuses of
> each
> > one they all have there game. Some better then the others. I have seen
> them
> > all work and now I own a Mile Marker Hydraulic for over four years now I
> > have had to finish pulling people out of spots that the Electric winch
> > couldn't do the job. And now your trying to say just how shi ty the
> > hydraulic winch is and I'm ROTFLMAO. I wouldn't try and tell you how
bad
> a
> > set of Boggers are in a mud hole with out having owned a set so don't
try
> > and tell people how bad a hydraulic winch is when you've never owned
one.
> > Grow up and start Jeeping in the real world and stop talking internet
> crap.
> > --
> > CJ & XJ JIMMIE VP.of The North Iowa Off-road Club
> >
> > "Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message
> > news:c6h9tr02jrf@enews1.newsguy.com...
> > > Of course, when the "Real Jeep's" engine is dead, it is also
> > irretrieveably
> > > stuck, because (like the hydraulic-type) a PTO can't operate with
> anything
> > > but engine power. So, if you've found yourself stranded in the middle
of
> > the
> > > river with a dead engine, might as well just get yourself to shore,
> forget
> > > the Jeep and hoof it back to town....whatever's left of it'll be there
> > after
> > > the spring runoff is done. With an electric winch you can ... oh,
never
> > > mind...
> > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > > news:408C0A25.7CEAEBCE@***.net...
> > > > Real Jeeps use Power Take Off gear driven winches, they don't
> over
> > > > heat and die before the job is done. The Wannabees may still use
the
> > > > next best thing in hydraulic powered:
> > > > http://7SlotGrille.com/projects/03rubicon/mm/index.html
> > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > > >
> > > > Muuurgh wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Who makes a good winch for a good price? Are the stock winches by
> > Mopar
> > > any
> > > > > good? Can I do better?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > -Muuurgh
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
product is worst then another with out knowing the true facts. You buy what
you think will work for you . And after you have and "IF" it isn't as good a
product as you though it would be at least be man enough to admit it or say
so. When people ask for advise in this news group they expect to get the
truth and not a bunch of half baked --------. You may not always agree with
Bill, but at least he does try to give people all the help he can. And he is
pretty darn honest about it. He has said something's on here that I have
not liked ,but I don't feel like he's the biggest ---- head I've ever met.
Bill never got on here and ever claimed to my knowledge that he was perfect.
But he is pretty knowledgeable.
There have been alot of people on this News Group over the last I think 5
years or so that I have been on here. That have given alot of great advise.
Mike in Canada, Bill in Cal, Jerry in cal. and the list goes on and on and
all these guys have tried to do there best. And my point is if you come on
here just to knock people around on here then you have the wrong News Group.
I happen to think that Elec. Hydulic, or pto's all have there uses' and all
have there own draw backs. But when People start knocking a product that
someone else has and you can tell that they don't know a darn thing about
them than that is what is bad because people can get the Idea that a product
is crappie. Just because that person is running there mouth off. Do you see
what I mean???
--
CJ & XJ JIMMIE VP.of The North Iowa Off-road Club
"SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:2j_ic.265476$2oI1.52881@twister01.bloor.is.ne t.cable.rogers.com...
> So with the pluses and minuses for either type....why y'all bitchin about
> people bitchin about it?!
> Isn't it fair to say that everyone does different types of wheeling in
> different types of location?!
> And where they get stuck will be different.....There's no winch to end all
> winches....no one winch will get you out of all spots....
>
> So settle with that. I think that your average joe might be able to deal
> with troubleshooting an electric winch easier than hydraulics. (ie. hey,
> there's voltage at the terminals and the solenoid is clicking when I hit
the
> button....winch must be pooched... OR; hey, where's all this damn fluid
> coming from....crap, I have no way of fixing the leak and replenishing the
> fluid....)
>
> In either case you're still stuck.....
>
> Know what I mean Gene??
>
> "JIM LAIRD" <CJ & XJ Jimmie@Jeepnet.net> wrote in message
> news:_7Yic.49$sF3.26102@news.uswest.net...
> > Not to start a flame war or anything,but how often has your engine been
> dead
> > and you had to save a bus lode of nuns from the raging rapids of the
> largest
> > river known to man.
> > All things being equal which one would you really want to own the one
that
> > will pull the whole bus lode of nuns up a 80' embankment at 90% and save
> all
> > there lives, or try to pull them 30' have the electric go up in smoke
and
> > they are all left there dangling for there lives until some one with a
> > hydraulic winch comes to the rescue and saves all of them.
> > Lets get real I've sat here time and time again and heard all the horror
> > stories about those sad and sorry people who have regretted buying a
> > hydraulic winch and I just don't get it . It is just quite simply crap.
> You
> > guys that make these claims just don't get it.
> > If your engine is dead in the water so darn deep that it will kill your
> > engine than I'd like to see you power swim up the fricking river and
jump
> > out hook up your golden winch and power swim back to your jeep if it's
> still
> > there and winch your shocked as e's out of the river.
> > And now I have to ask. DO you really think you can swim the English
> channel
> > as well. Lets' get real when you ad up all the pluses and minuses of
> each
> > one they all have there game. Some better then the others. I have seen
> them
> > all work and now I own a Mile Marker Hydraulic for over four years now I
> > have had to finish pulling people out of spots that the Electric winch
> > couldn't do the job. And now your trying to say just how shi ty the
> > hydraulic winch is and I'm ROTFLMAO. I wouldn't try and tell you how
bad
> a
> > set of Boggers are in a mud hole with out having owned a set so don't
try
> > and tell people how bad a hydraulic winch is when you've never owned
one.
> > Grow up and start Jeeping in the real world and stop talking internet
> crap.
> > --
> > CJ & XJ JIMMIE VP.of The North Iowa Off-road Club
> >
> > "Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message
> > news:c6h9tr02jrf@enews1.newsguy.com...
> > > Of course, when the "Real Jeep's" engine is dead, it is also
> > irretrieveably
> > > stuck, because (like the hydraulic-type) a PTO can't operate with
> anything
> > > but engine power. So, if you've found yourself stranded in the middle
of
> > the
> > > river with a dead engine, might as well just get yourself to shore,
> forget
> > > the Jeep and hoof it back to town....whatever's left of it'll be there
> > after
> > > the spring runoff is done. With an electric winch you can ... oh,
never
> > > mind...
> > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > > news:408C0A25.7CEAEBCE@***.net...
> > > > Real Jeeps use Power Take Off gear driven winches, they don't
> over
> > > > heat and die before the job is done. The Wannabees may still use
the
> > > > next best thing in hydraulic powered:
> > > > http://7SlotGrille.com/projects/03rubicon/mm/index.html
> > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > > >
> > > > Muuurgh wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Who makes a good winch for a good price? Are the stock winches by
> > Mopar
> > > any
> > > > > good? Can I do better?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > -Muuurgh
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
#116
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Winches
That is just what I said . My point was not to be telling people that one
product is worst then another with out knowing the true facts. You buy what
you think will work for you . And after you have and "IF" it isn't as good a
product as you though it would be at least be man enough to admit it or say
so. When people ask for advise in this news group they expect to get the
truth and not a bunch of half baked --------. You may not always agree with
Bill, but at least he does try to give people all the help he can. And he is
pretty darn honest about it. He has said something's on here that I have
not liked ,but I don't feel like he's the biggest ---- head I've ever met.
Bill never got on here and ever claimed to my knowledge that he was perfect.
But he is pretty knowledgeable.
There have been alot of people on this News Group over the last I think 5
years or so that I have been on here. That have given alot of great advise.
Mike in Canada, Bill in Cal, Jerry in cal. and the list goes on and on and
all these guys have tried to do there best. And my point is if you come on
here just to knock people around on here then you have the wrong News Group.
I happen to think that Elec. Hydulic, or pto's all have there uses' and all
have there own draw backs. But when People start knocking a product that
someone else has and you can tell that they don't know a darn thing about
them than that is what is bad because people can get the Idea that a product
is crappie. Just because that person is running there mouth off. Do you see
what I mean???
--
CJ & XJ JIMMIE VP.of The North Iowa Off-road Club
"SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:2j_ic.265476$2oI1.52881@twister01.bloor.is.ne t.cable.rogers.com...
> So with the pluses and minuses for either type....why y'all bitchin about
> people bitchin about it?!
> Isn't it fair to say that everyone does different types of wheeling in
> different types of location?!
> And where they get stuck will be different.....There's no winch to end all
> winches....no one winch will get you out of all spots....
>
> So settle with that. I think that your average joe might be able to deal
> with troubleshooting an electric winch easier than hydraulics. (ie. hey,
> there's voltage at the terminals and the solenoid is clicking when I hit
the
> button....winch must be pooched... OR; hey, where's all this damn fluid
> coming from....crap, I have no way of fixing the leak and replenishing the
> fluid....)
>
> In either case you're still stuck.....
>
> Know what I mean Gene??
>
> "JIM LAIRD" <CJ & XJ Jimmie@Jeepnet.net> wrote in message
> news:_7Yic.49$sF3.26102@news.uswest.net...
> > Not to start a flame war or anything,but how often has your engine been
> dead
> > and you had to save a bus lode of nuns from the raging rapids of the
> largest
> > river known to man.
> > All things being equal which one would you really want to own the one
that
> > will pull the whole bus lode of nuns up a 80' embankment at 90% and save
> all
> > there lives, or try to pull them 30' have the electric go up in smoke
and
> > they are all left there dangling for there lives until some one with a
> > hydraulic winch comes to the rescue and saves all of them.
> > Lets get real I've sat here time and time again and heard all the horror
> > stories about those sad and sorry people who have regretted buying a
> > hydraulic winch and I just don't get it . It is just quite simply crap.
> You
> > guys that make these claims just don't get it.
> > If your engine is dead in the water so darn deep that it will kill your
> > engine than I'd like to see you power swim up the fricking river and
jump
> > out hook up your golden winch and power swim back to your jeep if it's
> still
> > there and winch your shocked as e's out of the river.
> > And now I have to ask. DO you really think you can swim the English
> channel
> > as well. Lets' get real when you ad up all the pluses and minuses of
> each
> > one they all have there game. Some better then the others. I have seen
> them
> > all work and now I own a Mile Marker Hydraulic for over four years now I
> > have had to finish pulling people out of spots that the Electric winch
> > couldn't do the job. And now your trying to say just how shi ty the
> > hydraulic winch is and I'm ROTFLMAO. I wouldn't try and tell you how
bad
> a
> > set of Boggers are in a mud hole with out having owned a set so don't
try
> > and tell people how bad a hydraulic winch is when you've never owned
one.
> > Grow up and start Jeeping in the real world and stop talking internet
> crap.
> > --
> > CJ & XJ JIMMIE VP.of The North Iowa Off-road Club
> >
> > "Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message
> > news:c6h9tr02jrf@enews1.newsguy.com...
> > > Of course, when the "Real Jeep's" engine is dead, it is also
> > irretrieveably
> > > stuck, because (like the hydraulic-type) a PTO can't operate with
> anything
> > > but engine power. So, if you've found yourself stranded in the middle
of
> > the
> > > river with a dead engine, might as well just get yourself to shore,
> forget
> > > the Jeep and hoof it back to town....whatever's left of it'll be there
> > after
> > > the spring runoff is done. With an electric winch you can ... oh,
never
> > > mind...
> > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > > news:408C0A25.7CEAEBCE@***.net...
> > > > Real Jeeps use Power Take Off gear driven winches, they don't
> over
> > > > heat and die before the job is done. The Wannabees may still use
the
> > > > next best thing in hydraulic powered:
> > > > http://7SlotGrille.com/projects/03rubicon/mm/index.html
> > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > > >
> > > > Muuurgh wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Who makes a good winch for a good price? Are the stock winches by
> > Mopar
> > > any
> > > > > good? Can I do better?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > -Muuurgh
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
product is worst then another with out knowing the true facts. You buy what
you think will work for you . And after you have and "IF" it isn't as good a
product as you though it would be at least be man enough to admit it or say
so. When people ask for advise in this news group they expect to get the
truth and not a bunch of half baked --------. You may not always agree with
Bill, but at least he does try to give people all the help he can. And he is
pretty darn honest about it. He has said something's on here that I have
not liked ,but I don't feel like he's the biggest ---- head I've ever met.
Bill never got on here and ever claimed to my knowledge that he was perfect.
But he is pretty knowledgeable.
There have been alot of people on this News Group over the last I think 5
years or so that I have been on here. That have given alot of great advise.
Mike in Canada, Bill in Cal, Jerry in cal. and the list goes on and on and
all these guys have tried to do there best. And my point is if you come on
here just to knock people around on here then you have the wrong News Group.
I happen to think that Elec. Hydulic, or pto's all have there uses' and all
have there own draw backs. But when People start knocking a product that
someone else has and you can tell that they don't know a darn thing about
them than that is what is bad because people can get the Idea that a product
is crappie. Just because that person is running there mouth off. Do you see
what I mean???
--
CJ & XJ JIMMIE VP.of The North Iowa Off-road Club
"SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:2j_ic.265476$2oI1.52881@twister01.bloor.is.ne t.cable.rogers.com...
> So with the pluses and minuses for either type....why y'all bitchin about
> people bitchin about it?!
> Isn't it fair to say that everyone does different types of wheeling in
> different types of location?!
> And where they get stuck will be different.....There's no winch to end all
> winches....no one winch will get you out of all spots....
>
> So settle with that. I think that your average joe might be able to deal
> with troubleshooting an electric winch easier than hydraulics. (ie. hey,
> there's voltage at the terminals and the solenoid is clicking when I hit
the
> button....winch must be pooched... OR; hey, where's all this damn fluid
> coming from....crap, I have no way of fixing the leak and replenishing the
> fluid....)
>
> In either case you're still stuck.....
>
> Know what I mean Gene??
>
> "JIM LAIRD" <CJ & XJ Jimmie@Jeepnet.net> wrote in message
> news:_7Yic.49$sF3.26102@news.uswest.net...
> > Not to start a flame war or anything,but how often has your engine been
> dead
> > and you had to save a bus lode of nuns from the raging rapids of the
> largest
> > river known to man.
> > All things being equal which one would you really want to own the one
that
> > will pull the whole bus lode of nuns up a 80' embankment at 90% and save
> all
> > there lives, or try to pull them 30' have the electric go up in smoke
and
> > they are all left there dangling for there lives until some one with a
> > hydraulic winch comes to the rescue and saves all of them.
> > Lets get real I've sat here time and time again and heard all the horror
> > stories about those sad and sorry people who have regretted buying a
> > hydraulic winch and I just don't get it . It is just quite simply crap.
> You
> > guys that make these claims just don't get it.
> > If your engine is dead in the water so darn deep that it will kill your
> > engine than I'd like to see you power swim up the fricking river and
jump
> > out hook up your golden winch and power swim back to your jeep if it's
> still
> > there and winch your shocked as e's out of the river.
> > And now I have to ask. DO you really think you can swim the English
> channel
> > as well. Lets' get real when you ad up all the pluses and minuses of
> each
> > one they all have there game. Some better then the others. I have seen
> them
> > all work and now I own a Mile Marker Hydraulic for over four years now I
> > have had to finish pulling people out of spots that the Electric winch
> > couldn't do the job. And now your trying to say just how shi ty the
> > hydraulic winch is and I'm ROTFLMAO. I wouldn't try and tell you how
bad
> a
> > set of Boggers are in a mud hole with out having owned a set so don't
try
> > and tell people how bad a hydraulic winch is when you've never owned
one.
> > Grow up and start Jeeping in the real world and stop talking internet
> crap.
> > --
> > CJ & XJ JIMMIE VP.of The North Iowa Off-road Club
> >
> > "Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message
> > news:c6h9tr02jrf@enews1.newsguy.com...
> > > Of course, when the "Real Jeep's" engine is dead, it is also
> > irretrieveably
> > > stuck, because (like the hydraulic-type) a PTO can't operate with
> anything
> > > but engine power. So, if you've found yourself stranded in the middle
of
> > the
> > > river with a dead engine, might as well just get yourself to shore,
> forget
> > > the Jeep and hoof it back to town....whatever's left of it'll be there
> > after
> > > the spring runoff is done. With an electric winch you can ... oh,
never
> > > mind...
> > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > > news:408C0A25.7CEAEBCE@***.net...
> > > > Real Jeeps use Power Take Off gear driven winches, they don't
> over
> > > > heat and die before the job is done. The Wannabees may still use
the
> > > > next best thing in hydraulic powered:
> > > > http://7SlotGrille.com/projects/03rubicon/mm/index.html
> > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > > >
> > > > Muuurgh wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Who makes a good winch for a good price? Are the stock winches by
> > Mopar
> > > any
> > > > > good? Can I do better?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > -Muuurgh
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
#117
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Winches
That is just what I said . My point was not to be telling people that one
product is worst then another with out knowing the true facts. You buy what
you think will work for you . And after you have and "IF" it isn't as good a
product as you though it would be at least be man enough to admit it or say
so. When people ask for advise in this news group they expect to get the
truth and not a bunch of half baked --------. You may not always agree with
Bill, but at least he does try to give people all the help he can. And he is
pretty darn honest about it. He has said something's on here that I have
not liked ,but I don't feel like he's the biggest ---- head I've ever met.
Bill never got on here and ever claimed to my knowledge that he was perfect.
But he is pretty knowledgeable.
There have been alot of people on this News Group over the last I think 5
years or so that I have been on here. That have given alot of great advise.
Mike in Canada, Bill in Cal, Jerry in cal. and the list goes on and on and
all these guys have tried to do there best. And my point is if you come on
here just to knock people around on here then you have the wrong News Group.
I happen to think that Elec. Hydulic, or pto's all have there uses' and all
have there own draw backs. But when People start knocking a product that
someone else has and you can tell that they don't know a darn thing about
them than that is what is bad because people can get the Idea that a product
is crappie. Just because that person is running there mouth off. Do you see
what I mean???
--
CJ & XJ JIMMIE VP.of The North Iowa Off-road Club
"SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:2j_ic.265476$2oI1.52881@twister01.bloor.is.ne t.cable.rogers.com...
> So with the pluses and minuses for either type....why y'all bitchin about
> people bitchin about it?!
> Isn't it fair to say that everyone does different types of wheeling in
> different types of location?!
> And where they get stuck will be different.....There's no winch to end all
> winches....no one winch will get you out of all spots....
>
> So settle with that. I think that your average joe might be able to deal
> with troubleshooting an electric winch easier than hydraulics. (ie. hey,
> there's voltage at the terminals and the solenoid is clicking when I hit
the
> button....winch must be pooched... OR; hey, where's all this damn fluid
> coming from....crap, I have no way of fixing the leak and replenishing the
> fluid....)
>
> In either case you're still stuck.....
>
> Know what I mean Gene??
>
> "JIM LAIRD" <CJ & XJ Jimmie@Jeepnet.net> wrote in message
> news:_7Yic.49$sF3.26102@news.uswest.net...
> > Not to start a flame war or anything,but how often has your engine been
> dead
> > and you had to save a bus lode of nuns from the raging rapids of the
> largest
> > river known to man.
> > All things being equal which one would you really want to own the one
that
> > will pull the whole bus lode of nuns up a 80' embankment at 90% and save
> all
> > there lives, or try to pull them 30' have the electric go up in smoke
and
> > they are all left there dangling for there lives until some one with a
> > hydraulic winch comes to the rescue and saves all of them.
> > Lets get real I've sat here time and time again and heard all the horror
> > stories about those sad and sorry people who have regretted buying a
> > hydraulic winch and I just don't get it . It is just quite simply crap.
> You
> > guys that make these claims just don't get it.
> > If your engine is dead in the water so darn deep that it will kill your
> > engine than I'd like to see you power swim up the fricking river and
jump
> > out hook up your golden winch and power swim back to your jeep if it's
> still
> > there and winch your shocked as e's out of the river.
> > And now I have to ask. DO you really think you can swim the English
> channel
> > as well. Lets' get real when you ad up all the pluses and minuses of
> each
> > one they all have there game. Some better then the others. I have seen
> them
> > all work and now I own a Mile Marker Hydraulic for over four years now I
> > have had to finish pulling people out of spots that the Electric winch
> > couldn't do the job. And now your trying to say just how shi ty the
> > hydraulic winch is and I'm ROTFLMAO. I wouldn't try and tell you how
bad
> a
> > set of Boggers are in a mud hole with out having owned a set so don't
try
> > and tell people how bad a hydraulic winch is when you've never owned
one.
> > Grow up and start Jeeping in the real world and stop talking internet
> crap.
> > --
> > CJ & XJ JIMMIE VP.of The North Iowa Off-road Club
> >
> > "Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message
> > news:c6h9tr02jrf@enews1.newsguy.com...
> > > Of course, when the "Real Jeep's" engine is dead, it is also
> > irretrieveably
> > > stuck, because (like the hydraulic-type) a PTO can't operate with
> anything
> > > but engine power. So, if you've found yourself stranded in the middle
of
> > the
> > > river with a dead engine, might as well just get yourself to shore,
> forget
> > > the Jeep and hoof it back to town....whatever's left of it'll be there
> > after
> > > the spring runoff is done. With an electric winch you can ... oh,
never
> > > mind...
> > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > > news:408C0A25.7CEAEBCE@***.net...
> > > > Real Jeeps use Power Take Off gear driven winches, they don't
> over
> > > > heat and die before the job is done. The Wannabees may still use
the
> > > > next best thing in hydraulic powered:
> > > > http://7SlotGrille.com/projects/03rubicon/mm/index.html
> > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > > >
> > > > Muuurgh wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Who makes a good winch for a good price? Are the stock winches by
> > Mopar
> > > any
> > > > > good? Can I do better?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > -Muuurgh
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
product is worst then another with out knowing the true facts. You buy what
you think will work for you . And after you have and "IF" it isn't as good a
product as you though it would be at least be man enough to admit it or say
so. When people ask for advise in this news group they expect to get the
truth and not a bunch of half baked --------. You may not always agree with
Bill, but at least he does try to give people all the help he can. And he is
pretty darn honest about it. He has said something's on here that I have
not liked ,but I don't feel like he's the biggest ---- head I've ever met.
Bill never got on here and ever claimed to my knowledge that he was perfect.
But he is pretty knowledgeable.
There have been alot of people on this News Group over the last I think 5
years or so that I have been on here. That have given alot of great advise.
Mike in Canada, Bill in Cal, Jerry in cal. and the list goes on and on and
all these guys have tried to do there best. And my point is if you come on
here just to knock people around on here then you have the wrong News Group.
I happen to think that Elec. Hydulic, or pto's all have there uses' and all
have there own draw backs. But when People start knocking a product that
someone else has and you can tell that they don't know a darn thing about
them than that is what is bad because people can get the Idea that a product
is crappie. Just because that person is running there mouth off. Do you see
what I mean???
--
CJ & XJ JIMMIE VP.of The North Iowa Off-road Club
"SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:2j_ic.265476$2oI1.52881@twister01.bloor.is.ne t.cable.rogers.com...
> So with the pluses and minuses for either type....why y'all bitchin about
> people bitchin about it?!
> Isn't it fair to say that everyone does different types of wheeling in
> different types of location?!
> And where they get stuck will be different.....There's no winch to end all
> winches....no one winch will get you out of all spots....
>
> So settle with that. I think that your average joe might be able to deal
> with troubleshooting an electric winch easier than hydraulics. (ie. hey,
> there's voltage at the terminals and the solenoid is clicking when I hit
the
> button....winch must be pooched... OR; hey, where's all this damn fluid
> coming from....crap, I have no way of fixing the leak and replenishing the
> fluid....)
>
> In either case you're still stuck.....
>
> Know what I mean Gene??
>
> "JIM LAIRD" <CJ & XJ Jimmie@Jeepnet.net> wrote in message
> news:_7Yic.49$sF3.26102@news.uswest.net...
> > Not to start a flame war or anything,but how often has your engine been
> dead
> > and you had to save a bus lode of nuns from the raging rapids of the
> largest
> > river known to man.
> > All things being equal which one would you really want to own the one
that
> > will pull the whole bus lode of nuns up a 80' embankment at 90% and save
> all
> > there lives, or try to pull them 30' have the electric go up in smoke
and
> > they are all left there dangling for there lives until some one with a
> > hydraulic winch comes to the rescue and saves all of them.
> > Lets get real I've sat here time and time again and heard all the horror
> > stories about those sad and sorry people who have regretted buying a
> > hydraulic winch and I just don't get it . It is just quite simply crap.
> You
> > guys that make these claims just don't get it.
> > If your engine is dead in the water so darn deep that it will kill your
> > engine than I'd like to see you power swim up the fricking river and
jump
> > out hook up your golden winch and power swim back to your jeep if it's
> still
> > there and winch your shocked as e's out of the river.
> > And now I have to ask. DO you really think you can swim the English
> channel
> > as well. Lets' get real when you ad up all the pluses and minuses of
> each
> > one they all have there game. Some better then the others. I have seen
> them
> > all work and now I own a Mile Marker Hydraulic for over four years now I
> > have had to finish pulling people out of spots that the Electric winch
> > couldn't do the job. And now your trying to say just how shi ty the
> > hydraulic winch is and I'm ROTFLMAO. I wouldn't try and tell you how
bad
> a
> > set of Boggers are in a mud hole with out having owned a set so don't
try
> > and tell people how bad a hydraulic winch is when you've never owned
one.
> > Grow up and start Jeeping in the real world and stop talking internet
> crap.
> > --
> > CJ & XJ JIMMIE VP.of The North Iowa Off-road Club
> >
> > "Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message
> > news:c6h9tr02jrf@enews1.newsguy.com...
> > > Of course, when the "Real Jeep's" engine is dead, it is also
> > irretrieveably
> > > stuck, because (like the hydraulic-type) a PTO can't operate with
> anything
> > > but engine power. So, if you've found yourself stranded in the middle
of
> > the
> > > river with a dead engine, might as well just get yourself to shore,
> forget
> > > the Jeep and hoof it back to town....whatever's left of it'll be there
> > after
> > > the spring runoff is done. With an electric winch you can ... oh,
never
> > > mind...
> > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > > news:408C0A25.7CEAEBCE@***.net...
> > > > Real Jeeps use Power Take Off gear driven winches, they don't
> over
> > > > heat and die before the job is done. The Wannabees may still use
the
> > > > next best thing in hydraulic powered:
> > > > http://7SlotGrille.com/projects/03rubicon/mm/index.html
> > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > > >
> > > > Muuurgh wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Who makes a good winch for a good price? Are the stock winches by
> > Mopar
> > > any
> > > > > good? Can I do better?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > -Muuurgh
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
#118
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Re: Winches
Sorry Del I'll just have to try harder to use my imagination more . 8) There
once was a bus load of playboy bunnies hanging over the side of a cliff and
>>>>>>>>>>>> is that better. 8>)
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"Del Rawlins" <del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote in message
news:20040425182928861-0800@enews.newsguy.com...
> In <c6hkfk1243@enews2.newsguy.com> Jerry McG wrote:
> > Spoken like someone who's invested a lot of money in a hydraulic
> > winch....Bill knows better, he uses the PTO and all the Nuns, well,
> > they're waiting for him to get the Real Jeeps 4 banger started...
>
> What I don't get, is he makes up a hypothetical situation and could have
> chosen a busload of anything, and he picks NUNS??? Personally I would
> have chosen to save a bus carrying members of the swedish bikini team,
> or maybe help Angelina Jolie pull out her "Tomb Raider" jeep which is
> stuck because its electric winch died. 8^)
>
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once was a bus load of playboy bunnies hanging over the side of a cliff and
>>>>>>>>>>>> is that better. 8>)
--
CJ & XJ JIMMIE VP.of The North Iowa Off-road Club
"Del Rawlins" <del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote in message
news:20040425182928861-0800@enews.newsguy.com...
> In <c6hkfk1243@enews2.newsguy.com> Jerry McG wrote:
> > Spoken like someone who's invested a lot of money in a hydraulic
> > winch....Bill knows better, he uses the PTO and all the Nuns, well,
> > they're waiting for him to get the Real Jeeps 4 banger started...
>
> What I don't get, is he makes up a hypothetical situation and could have
> chosen a busload of anything, and he picks NUNS??? Personally I would
> have chosen to save a bus carrying members of the swedish bikini team,
> or maybe help Angelina Jolie pull out her "Tomb Raider" jeep which is
> stuck because its electric winch died. 8^)
>
> ----------------------------------------------------
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> Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email.
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#119
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Re: Winches
Sorry Del I'll just have to try harder to use my imagination more . 8) There
once was a bus load of playboy bunnies hanging over the side of a cliff and
>>>>>>>>>>>> is that better. 8>)
--
CJ & XJ JIMMIE VP.of The North Iowa Off-road Club
"Del Rawlins" <del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote in message
news:20040425182928861-0800@enews.newsguy.com...
> In <c6hkfk1243@enews2.newsguy.com> Jerry McG wrote:
> > Spoken like someone who's invested a lot of money in a hydraulic
> > winch....Bill knows better, he uses the PTO and all the Nuns, well,
> > they're waiting for him to get the Real Jeeps 4 banger started...
>
> What I don't get, is he makes up a hypothetical situation and could have
> chosen a busload of anything, and he picks NUNS??? Personally I would
> have chosen to save a bus carrying members of the swedish bikini team,
> or maybe help Angelina Jolie pull out her "Tomb Raider" jeep which is
> stuck because its electric winch died. 8^)
>
> ----------------------------------------------------
> Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org
> Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email.
> Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website:
> http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/
once was a bus load of playboy bunnies hanging over the side of a cliff and
>>>>>>>>>>>> is that better. 8>)
--
CJ & XJ JIMMIE VP.of The North Iowa Off-road Club
"Del Rawlins" <del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote in message
news:20040425182928861-0800@enews.newsguy.com...
> In <c6hkfk1243@enews2.newsguy.com> Jerry McG wrote:
> > Spoken like someone who's invested a lot of money in a hydraulic
> > winch....Bill knows better, he uses the PTO and all the Nuns, well,
> > they're waiting for him to get the Real Jeeps 4 banger started...
>
> What I don't get, is he makes up a hypothetical situation and could have
> chosen a busload of anything, and he picks NUNS??? Personally I would
> have chosen to save a bus carrying members of the swedish bikini team,
> or maybe help Angelina Jolie pull out her "Tomb Raider" jeep which is
> stuck because its electric winch died. 8^)
>
> ----------------------------------------------------
> Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org
> Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email.
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#120
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Re: Winches
Sorry Del I'll just have to try harder to use my imagination more . 8) There
once was a bus load of playboy bunnies hanging over the side of a cliff and
>>>>>>>>>>>> is that better. 8>)
--
CJ & XJ JIMMIE VP.of The North Iowa Off-road Club
"Del Rawlins" <del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote in message
news:20040425182928861-0800@enews.newsguy.com...
> In <c6hkfk1243@enews2.newsguy.com> Jerry McG wrote:
> > Spoken like someone who's invested a lot of money in a hydraulic
> > winch....Bill knows better, he uses the PTO and all the Nuns, well,
> > they're waiting for him to get the Real Jeeps 4 banger started...
>
> What I don't get, is he makes up a hypothetical situation and could have
> chosen a busload of anything, and he picks NUNS??? Personally I would
> have chosen to save a bus carrying members of the swedish bikini team,
> or maybe help Angelina Jolie pull out her "Tomb Raider" jeep which is
> stuck because its electric winch died. 8^)
>
> ----------------------------------------------------
> Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org
> Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email.
> Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website:
> http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/
once was a bus load of playboy bunnies hanging over the side of a cliff and
>>>>>>>>>>>> is that better. 8>)
--
CJ & XJ JIMMIE VP.of The North Iowa Off-road Club
"Del Rawlins" <del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote in message
news:20040425182928861-0800@enews.newsguy.com...
> In <c6hkfk1243@enews2.newsguy.com> Jerry McG wrote:
> > Spoken like someone who's invested a lot of money in a hydraulic
> > winch....Bill knows better, he uses the PTO and all the Nuns, well,
> > they're waiting for him to get the Real Jeeps 4 banger started...
>
> What I don't get, is he makes up a hypothetical situation and could have
> chosen a busload of anything, and he picks NUNS??? Personally I would
> have chosen to save a bus carrying members of the swedish bikini team,
> or maybe help Angelina Jolie pull out her "Tomb Raider" jeep which is
> stuck because its electric winch died. 8^)
>
> ----------------------------------------------------
> Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org
> Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email.
> Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website:
> http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/