WINCH WIRING QUICK CONNECT
01-27-2006, 10:36 AM
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Re: WINCH WIRING QUICK CONNECT
Since a typical Jeep size winch at full load draws 430-440 amps, I'd not
want a connector only rated to 350 amps, safety margin or not. :)
Jerry
Howard wrote:
> Sorry Grainger now longer offers them. Similar part numbers (not
> checked for availability) Anderson6321G1, Brad Harrison 48220, Systems
> material handling SY6321G1
>
>
> I use the "blue" size which is rated at 350 amps and costs about $25.
> One is installed at each end of the JGC so I can use the winch on the
> front or rear receiver hitch. I also have a manual disconnect by the
> battery to cut off the power unless the winch is is use. the cable to
> the rear is fished thru the unibody frame rail.
>
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
want a connector only rated to 350 amps, safety margin or not. :)
Jerry
Howard wrote:
> Sorry Grainger now longer offers them. Similar part numbers (not
> checked for availability) Anderson6321G1, Brad Harrison 48220, Systems
> material handling SY6321G1
>
>
> I use the "blue" size which is rated at 350 amps and costs about $25.
> One is installed at each end of the JGC so I can use the winch on the
> front or rear receiver hitch. I also have a manual disconnect by the
> battery to cut off the power unless the winch is is use. the cable to
> the rear is fished thru the unibody frame rail.
>
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
01-27-2006, 10:36 AM
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Re: WINCH WIRING QUICK CONNECT
Since a typical Jeep size winch at full load draws 430-440 amps, I'd not
want a connector only rated to 350 amps, safety margin or not. :)
Jerry
Howard wrote:
> Sorry Grainger now longer offers them. Similar part numbers (not
> checked for availability) Anderson6321G1, Brad Harrison 48220, Systems
> material handling SY6321G1
>
>
> I use the "blue" size which is rated at 350 amps and costs about $25.
> One is installed at each end of the JGC so I can use the winch on the
> front or rear receiver hitch. I also have a manual disconnect by the
> battery to cut off the power unless the winch is is use. the cable to
> the rear is fished thru the unibody frame rail.
>
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
want a connector only rated to 350 amps, safety margin or not. :)
Jerry
Howard wrote:
> Sorry Grainger now longer offers them. Similar part numbers (not
> checked for availability) Anderson6321G1, Brad Harrison 48220, Systems
> material handling SY6321G1
>
>
> I use the "blue" size which is rated at 350 amps and costs about $25.
> One is installed at each end of the JGC so I can use the winch on the
> front or rear receiver hitch. I also have a manual disconnect by the
> battery to cut off the power unless the winch is is use. the cable to
> the rear is fished thru the unibody frame rail.
>
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
01-27-2006, 10:36 AM
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Re: WINCH WIRING QUICK CONNECT
Since a typical Jeep size winch at full load draws 430-440 amps, I'd not
want a connector only rated to 350 amps, safety margin or not. :)
Jerry
Howard wrote:
> Sorry Grainger now longer offers them. Similar part numbers (not
> checked for availability) Anderson6321G1, Brad Harrison 48220, Systems
> material handling SY6321G1
>
>
> I use the "blue" size which is rated at 350 amps and costs about $25.
> One is installed at each end of the JGC so I can use the winch on the
> front or rear receiver hitch. I also have a manual disconnect by the
> battery to cut off the power unless the winch is is use. the cable to
> the rear is fished thru the unibody frame rail.
>
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
want a connector only rated to 350 amps, safety margin or not. :)
Jerry
Howard wrote:
> Sorry Grainger now longer offers them. Similar part numbers (not
> checked for availability) Anderson6321G1, Brad Harrison 48220, Systems
> material handling SY6321G1
>
>
> I use the "blue" size which is rated at 350 amps and costs about $25.
> One is installed at each end of the JGC so I can use the winch on the
> front or rear receiver hitch. I also have a manual disconnect by the
> battery to cut off the power unless the winch is is use. the cable to
> the rear is fished thru the unibody frame rail.
>
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
01-27-2006, 11:40 AM
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Re: WINCH WIRING QUICK CONNECT
On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 07:08:05 -0700, "Jim Gemmill"
<gemmilljim@hotmail.com> wrote:
>"INDIVIDUAL" <NOT@NOT.COM> wrote in message
>news:43da269c$0$3648$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
>> I am thinking of purchasing a winch and mounting it to a 2x2
>> tongue and thus be able to use it by attaching it to the rear
>> receiver on several different vehicles. Does anybody know of
>> a quick connect for the very heavy welding cable I will have
>> to run from the battery to the receiver hitch area on several
>> vehicles? ANY suggestions on this entire procedure would be
>> appreciated.
>>
>Tow truck drivers have quick connects for their battery jump
>cables. I think they cost about $100 per set plus wiring of
>course. A possible alternative may be connectors that are
>used by welders.
The connectors used for the wrecker plug-in jumper cables are
Anderson Powerpole connectors, and they are used on lots of heavy
power connections. Jumper cables and electric forklift battery leads
being just two. They are all universal, there are about six different
sizes from 40A to 350A, and there are also knock-offs that mate
properly. As long as you pick the right amperage class for all the
items, they'll all work.
I did some Googling, and some Thomas Catalog looking, but they
didn't pop into the first few hits. So here's a vendor:
http://www.powerwerx.com/category.asp?CtgID=1001
The welding style pin-lock connectors could be used, but in
combinations of two or more they are NOT IDIOT PROOF! You can hook
them up backwards, and that does wonderful things to the ECM computer
and electronics of the car with a dead battery. Or you could jumper a
hard short on the battery in the good vehicle...
In other words, they'll work fine as long as you are the only one
that ever messes with them, and you never have a brain fart in the
process. (Hey, we all have bad days.) But loan the car to Uncle Fred
and they could screw it up in several inventive ways, the least
destructive being to hook the power up backwards and tighten the winch
when they hit the 'OUT' button and break the cable. Or strip a gear,
pop the shear pin, drop a Buick on their foot...
--<< Bruce >>--
--
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Electrician for Westend Electric - CA726700
5737 Kanan Rd. #359, Agoura CA 91301 (818) 889-9545
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<gemmilljim@hotmail.com> wrote:
>"INDIVIDUAL" <NOT@NOT.COM> wrote in message
>news:43da269c$0$3648$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
>> I am thinking of purchasing a winch and mounting it to a 2x2
>> tongue and thus be able to use it by attaching it to the rear
>> receiver on several different vehicles. Does anybody know of
>> a quick connect for the very heavy welding cable I will have
>> to run from the battery to the receiver hitch area on several
>> vehicles? ANY suggestions on this entire procedure would be
>> appreciated.
>>
>Tow truck drivers have quick connects for their battery jump
>cables. I think they cost about $100 per set plus wiring of
>course. A possible alternative may be connectors that are
>used by welders.
The connectors used for the wrecker plug-in jumper cables are
Anderson Powerpole connectors, and they are used on lots of heavy
power connections. Jumper cables and electric forklift battery leads
being just two. They are all universal, there are about six different
sizes from 40A to 350A, and there are also knock-offs that mate
properly. As long as you pick the right amperage class for all the
items, they'll all work.
I did some Googling, and some Thomas Catalog looking, but they
didn't pop into the first few hits. So here's a vendor:
http://www.powerwerx.com/category.asp?CtgID=1001
The welding style pin-lock connectors could be used, but in
combinations of two or more they are NOT IDIOT PROOF! You can hook
them up backwards, and that does wonderful things to the ECM computer
and electronics of the car with a dead battery. Or you could jumper a
hard short on the battery in the good vehicle...
In other words, they'll work fine as long as you are the only one
that ever messes with them, and you never have a brain fart in the
process. (Hey, we all have bad days.) But loan the car to Uncle Fred
and they could screw it up in several inventive ways, the least
destructive being to hook the power up backwards and tighten the winch
when they hit the 'OUT' button and break the cable. Or strip a gear,
pop the shear pin, drop a Buick on their foot...
--<< Bruce >>--
--
Bruce L. Bergman, Woodland Hills (Los Angeles) CA - Desktop
Electrician for Westend Electric - CA726700
5737 Kanan Rd. #359, Agoura CA 91301 (818) 889-9545
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01-27-2006, 11:40 AM
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Re: WINCH WIRING QUICK CONNECT
On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 07:08:05 -0700, "Jim Gemmill"
<gemmilljim@hotmail.com> wrote:
>"INDIVIDUAL" <NOT@NOT.COM> wrote in message
>news:43da269c$0$3648$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
>> I am thinking of purchasing a winch and mounting it to a 2x2
>> tongue and thus be able to use it by attaching it to the rear
>> receiver on several different vehicles. Does anybody know of
>> a quick connect for the very heavy welding cable I will have
>> to run from the battery to the receiver hitch area on several
>> vehicles? ANY suggestions on this entire procedure would be
>> appreciated.
>>
>Tow truck drivers have quick connects for their battery jump
>cables. I think they cost about $100 per set plus wiring of
>course. A possible alternative may be connectors that are
>used by welders.
The connectors used for the wrecker plug-in jumper cables are
Anderson Powerpole connectors, and they are used on lots of heavy
power connections. Jumper cables and electric forklift battery leads
being just two. They are all universal, there are about six different
sizes from 40A to 350A, and there are also knock-offs that mate
properly. As long as you pick the right amperage class for all the
items, they'll all work.
I did some Googling, and some Thomas Catalog looking, but they
didn't pop into the first few hits. So here's a vendor:
http://www.powerwerx.com/category.asp?CtgID=1001
The welding style pin-lock connectors could be used, but in
combinations of two or more they are NOT IDIOT PROOF! You can hook
them up backwards, and that does wonderful things to the ECM computer
and electronics of the car with a dead battery. Or you could jumper a
hard short on the battery in the good vehicle...
In other words, they'll work fine as long as you are the only one
that ever messes with them, and you never have a brain fart in the
process. (Hey, we all have bad days.) But loan the car to Uncle Fred
and they could screw it up in several inventive ways, the least
destructive being to hook the power up backwards and tighten the winch
when they hit the 'OUT' button and break the cable. Or strip a gear,
pop the shear pin, drop a Buick on their foot...
--<< Bruce >>--
--
Bruce L. Bergman, Woodland Hills (Los Angeles) CA - Desktop
Electrician for Westend Electric - CA726700
5737 Kanan Rd. #359, Agoura CA 91301 (818) 889-9545
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<gemmilljim@hotmail.com> wrote:
>"INDIVIDUAL" <NOT@NOT.COM> wrote in message
>news:43da269c$0$3648$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
>> I am thinking of purchasing a winch and mounting it to a 2x2
>> tongue and thus be able to use it by attaching it to the rear
>> receiver on several different vehicles. Does anybody know of
>> a quick connect for the very heavy welding cable I will have
>> to run from the battery to the receiver hitch area on several
>> vehicles? ANY suggestions on this entire procedure would be
>> appreciated.
>>
>Tow truck drivers have quick connects for their battery jump
>cables. I think they cost about $100 per set plus wiring of
>course. A possible alternative may be connectors that are
>used by welders.
The connectors used for the wrecker plug-in jumper cables are
Anderson Powerpole connectors, and they are used on lots of heavy
power connections. Jumper cables and electric forklift battery leads
being just two. They are all universal, there are about six different
sizes from 40A to 350A, and there are also knock-offs that mate
properly. As long as you pick the right amperage class for all the
items, they'll all work.
I did some Googling, and some Thomas Catalog looking, but they
didn't pop into the first few hits. So here's a vendor:
http://www.powerwerx.com/category.asp?CtgID=1001
The welding style pin-lock connectors could be used, but in
combinations of two or more they are NOT IDIOT PROOF! You can hook
them up backwards, and that does wonderful things to the ECM computer
and electronics of the car with a dead battery. Or you could jumper a
hard short on the battery in the good vehicle...
In other words, they'll work fine as long as you are the only one
that ever messes with them, and you never have a brain fart in the
process. (Hey, we all have bad days.) But loan the car to Uncle Fred
and they could screw it up in several inventive ways, the least
destructive being to hook the power up backwards and tighten the winch
when they hit the 'OUT' button and break the cable. Or strip a gear,
pop the shear pin, drop a Buick on their foot...
--<< Bruce >>--
--
Bruce L. Bergman, Woodland Hills (Los Angeles) CA - Desktop
Electrician for Westend Electric - CA726700
5737 Kanan Rd. #359, Agoura CA 91301 (818) 889-9545
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01-27-2006, 11:40 AM
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Re: WINCH WIRING QUICK CONNECT
On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 07:08:05 -0700, "Jim Gemmill"
<gemmilljim@hotmail.com> wrote:
>"INDIVIDUAL" <NOT@NOT.COM> wrote in message
>news:43da269c$0$3648$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
>> I am thinking of purchasing a winch and mounting it to a 2x2
>> tongue and thus be able to use it by attaching it to the rear
>> receiver on several different vehicles. Does anybody know of
>> a quick connect for the very heavy welding cable I will have
>> to run from the battery to the receiver hitch area on several
>> vehicles? ANY suggestions on this entire procedure would be
>> appreciated.
>>
>Tow truck drivers have quick connects for their battery jump
>cables. I think they cost about $100 per set plus wiring of
>course. A possible alternative may be connectors that are
>used by welders.
The connectors used for the wrecker plug-in jumper cables are
Anderson Powerpole connectors, and they are used on lots of heavy
power connections. Jumper cables and electric forklift battery leads
being just two. They are all universal, there are about six different
sizes from 40A to 350A, and there are also knock-offs that mate
properly. As long as you pick the right amperage class for all the
items, they'll all work.
I did some Googling, and some Thomas Catalog looking, but they
didn't pop into the first few hits. So here's a vendor:
http://www.powerwerx.com/category.asp?CtgID=1001
The welding style pin-lock connectors could be used, but in
combinations of two or more they are NOT IDIOT PROOF! You can hook
them up backwards, and that does wonderful things to the ECM computer
and electronics of the car with a dead battery. Or you could jumper a
hard short on the battery in the good vehicle...
In other words, they'll work fine as long as you are the only one
that ever messes with them, and you never have a brain fart in the
process. (Hey, we all have bad days.) But loan the car to Uncle Fred
and they could screw it up in several inventive ways, the least
destructive being to hook the power up backwards and tighten the winch
when they hit the 'OUT' button and break the cable. Or strip a gear,
pop the shear pin, drop a Buick on their foot...
--<< Bruce >>--
--
Bruce L. Bergman, Woodland Hills (Los Angeles) CA - Desktop
Electrician for Westend Electric - CA726700
5737 Kanan Rd. #359, Agoura CA 91301 (818) 889-9545
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<gemmilljim@hotmail.com> wrote:
>"INDIVIDUAL" <NOT@NOT.COM> wrote in message
>news:43da269c$0$3648$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
>> I am thinking of purchasing a winch and mounting it to a 2x2
>> tongue and thus be able to use it by attaching it to the rear
>> receiver on several different vehicles. Does anybody know of
>> a quick connect for the very heavy welding cable I will have
>> to run from the battery to the receiver hitch area on several
>> vehicles? ANY suggestions on this entire procedure would be
>> appreciated.
>>
>Tow truck drivers have quick connects for their battery jump
>cables. I think they cost about $100 per set plus wiring of
>course. A possible alternative may be connectors that are
>used by welders.
The connectors used for the wrecker plug-in jumper cables are
Anderson Powerpole connectors, and they are used on lots of heavy
power connections. Jumper cables and electric forklift battery leads
being just two. They are all universal, there are about six different
sizes from 40A to 350A, and there are also knock-offs that mate
properly. As long as you pick the right amperage class for all the
items, they'll all work.
I did some Googling, and some Thomas Catalog looking, but they
didn't pop into the first few hits. So here's a vendor:
http://www.powerwerx.com/category.asp?CtgID=1001
The welding style pin-lock connectors could be used, but in
combinations of two or more they are NOT IDIOT PROOF! You can hook
them up backwards, and that does wonderful things to the ECM computer
and electronics of the car with a dead battery. Or you could jumper a
hard short on the battery in the good vehicle...
In other words, they'll work fine as long as you are the only one
that ever messes with them, and you never have a brain fart in the
process. (Hey, we all have bad days.) But loan the car to Uncle Fred
and they could screw it up in several inventive ways, the least
destructive being to hook the power up backwards and tighten the winch
when they hit the 'OUT' button and break the cable. Or strip a gear,
pop the shear pin, drop a Buick on their foot...
--<< Bruce >>--
--
Bruce L. Bergman, Woodland Hills (Los Angeles) CA - Desktop
Electrician for Westend Electric - CA726700
5737 Kanan Rd. #359, Agoura CA 91301 (818) 889-9545
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01-27-2006, 12:36 PM
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So _that's_ where I'd seen those connectors recently. If the OP lives
in a ville big enough to have a forklift battery shop he can get them there.
Howard wrote:
> try this
>
> http://www.warn.com/truck/mounting-s...nect_kit.shtml
>
> also the same connectors are used for forklift truck batteries and are
> available at grainger and others.
>
>
> INDIVIDUAL wrote:
>
>>I am thinking of purchasing a winch and mounting it to a 2x2 tongue and thus
>>be able to use it by attaching it to the rear receiver on several different
>>vehicles. Does anybody know of a quick connect for the very heavy welding
>>cable I will have to run from the battery to the receiver hitch area on
>>several vehicles? ANY suggestions on this entire procedure would be
>>appreciated.
>
>
01-27-2006, 12:36 PM
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Re: WINCH WIRING QUICK CONNECT
So _that's_ where I'd seen those connectors recently. If the OP lives
in a ville big enough to have a forklift battery shop he can get them there.
Howard wrote:
> try this
>
> http://www.warn.com/truck/mounting-s...nect_kit.shtml
>
> also the same connectors are used for forklift truck batteries and are
> available at grainger and others.
>
>
> INDIVIDUAL wrote:
>
>>I am thinking of purchasing a winch and mounting it to a 2x2 tongue and thus
>>be able to use it by attaching it to the rear receiver on several different
>>vehicles. Does anybody know of a quick connect for the very heavy welding
>>cable I will have to run from the battery to the receiver hitch area on
>>several vehicles? ANY suggestions on this entire procedure would be
>>appreciated.
>
>
01-27-2006, 12:36 PM
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Re: WINCH WIRING QUICK CONNECT
So _that's_ where I'd seen those connectors recently. If the OP lives
in a ville big enough to have a forklift battery shop he can get them there.
Howard wrote:
> try this
>
> http://www.warn.com/truck/mounting-s...nect_kit.shtml
>
> also the same connectors are used for forklift truck batteries and are
> available at grainger and others.
>
>
> INDIVIDUAL wrote:
>
>>I am thinking of purchasing a winch and mounting it to a 2x2 tongue and thus
>>be able to use it by attaching it to the rear receiver on several different
>>vehicles. Does anybody know of a quick connect for the very heavy welding
>>cable I will have to run from the battery to the receiver hitch area on
>>several vehicles? ANY suggestions on this entire procedure would be
>>appreciated.
>
>
01-27-2006, 12:48 PM
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I will second that. My Warn HS9000i's cables have been smoking hot
once. Hot enough to melt off/split the heat shrink. I'll bet I maxed
the amps out.
I would go with the Warn connectors to be sure they were rated properly.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
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Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
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Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
> Since a typical Jeep size winch at full load draws 430-440 amps, I'd not
> want a connector only rated to 350 amps, safety margin or not. :)
>
> Jerry
>
> Howard wrote:
> > Sorry Grainger now longer offers them. Similar part numbers (not
> > checked for availability) Anderson6321G1, Brad Harrison 48220, Systems
> > material handling SY6321G1
> >
> >
> > I use the "blue" size which is rated at 350 amps and costs about $25.
> > One is installed at each end of the JGC so I can use the winch on the
> > front or rear receiver hitch. I also have a manual disconnect by the
> > battery to cut off the power unless the winch is is use. the cable to
> > the rear is fished thru the unibody frame rail.
> >
>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
once. Hot enough to melt off/split the heat shrink. I'll bet I maxed
the amps out.
I would go with the Warn connectors to be sure they were rated properly.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
> Since a typical Jeep size winch at full load draws 430-440 amps, I'd not
> want a connector only rated to 350 amps, safety margin or not. :)
>
> Jerry
>
> Howard wrote:
> > Sorry Grainger now longer offers them. Similar part numbers (not
> > checked for availability) Anderson6321G1, Brad Harrison 48220, Systems
> > material handling SY6321G1
> >
> >
> > I use the "blue" size which is rated at 350 amps and costs about $25.
> > One is installed at each end of the JGC so I can use the winch on the
> > front or rear receiver hitch. I also have a manual disconnect by the
> > battery to cut off the power unless the winch is is use. the cable to
> > the rear is fished thru the unibody frame rail.
> >
>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/