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L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 06-26-2004 09:29 PM

Re: Willys/Ford Engine Swap? Possible?
 
Yes, I use to have to drive trucks, I contracted with a private
fuel dock, that fortunately was in Vista, California where I live,
otherwise it was to the truck stops, fifty miles south in Chula Vista,
or seventy miles north to Los Angeles, or Riverside, that's why we carry
five hundred gallon tanks. A few of the trucks I drove:
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God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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Ted Azito wrote:
>
> If it wasn't for diesel trucks there wouldn't be anyone in Del Mar,
> CA. That is if there were anyway. So fuel had to be somewhere around.
> In a real pinch, look for an airport (jet fuel).


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 06-26-2004 09:53 PM

Re: Willys/Ford Engine Swap? Possible?
 
Jet fuel is kerosene.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Ted Azito wrote:
>
> If it wasn't for diesel trucks there wouldn't be anyone in Del Mar,
> CA. That is if there were anyway. So fuel had to be somewhere around.
> In a real pinch, look for an airport (jet fuel).


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 06-26-2004 09:53 PM

Re: Willys/Ford Engine Swap? Possible?
 
Jet fuel is kerosene.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Ted Azito wrote:
>
> If it wasn't for diesel trucks there wouldn't be anyone in Del Mar,
> CA. That is if there were anyway. So fuel had to be somewhere around.
> In a real pinch, look for an airport (jet fuel).


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 06-26-2004 09:53 PM

Re: Willys/Ford Engine Swap? Possible?
 
Jet fuel is kerosene.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Ted Azito wrote:
>
> If it wasn't for diesel trucks there wouldn't be anyone in Del Mar,
> CA. That is if there were anyway. So fuel had to be somewhere around.
> In a real pinch, look for an airport (jet fuel).


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 06-26-2004 09:53 PM

Re: Willys/Ford Engine Swap? Possible?
 
Jet fuel is kerosene.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Ted Azito wrote:
>
> If it wasn't for diesel trucks there wouldn't be anyone in Del Mar,
> CA. That is if there were anyway. So fuel had to be somewhere around.
> In a real pinch, look for an airport (jet fuel).


Ted Azito 06-27-2004 05:25 PM

Re: Willys/Ford Engine Swap? Possible?
 
L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:<40DE28B3.86CE7037@cox.net>...
> Jet fuel is kerosene.


Jet fuel is not pure, K-1 Kerosene. Use of K-1 is _not_ approved in
any civil jet engine (that I know of):it would tear up the fuel
controller unless a little oil were added. Jet-A has a lubricity spec,
and is a wider cut fuel than K-1 kerosene. It is a lower lubricity
spec than Diesel and is not specified for cetane rating. For what it's
worth, airports run all their diesels on the stuff and most don't even
add lubricant-I would for safety-but I've never heard any complaints
or damage claims. Somewhere, it's happened.

The same fuel can be sold as Jet A and #1 Diesel, if it meets both
specs, and often is and does. I would put it in any small diesel
engine with added oil,and/or a cetane improver like Power Service.
It's not economic. But it will safely get you home.

All civil and Navy turbine aircraft use Jet-A or JP-5 fuel. The USAF
uses JP-4, which is a _wide cut gasoline_. It will run the old
"kerosene" or "white gas" tractors, multifuel military truck engines,
or a few other things, but not a modern gas or diesel engine. I'm told
reducing fuel pilferage is a reason for the USAF's intransigence in
keeping JP-4.

Ted Azito 06-27-2004 05:25 PM

Re: Willys/Ford Engine Swap? Possible?
 
L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:<40DE28B3.86CE7037@cox.net>...
> Jet fuel is kerosene.


Jet fuel is not pure, K-1 Kerosene. Use of K-1 is _not_ approved in
any civil jet engine (that I know of):it would tear up the fuel
controller unless a little oil were added. Jet-A has a lubricity spec,
and is a wider cut fuel than K-1 kerosene. It is a lower lubricity
spec than Diesel and is not specified for cetane rating. For what it's
worth, airports run all their diesels on the stuff and most don't even
add lubricant-I would for safety-but I've never heard any complaints
or damage claims. Somewhere, it's happened.

The same fuel can be sold as Jet A and #1 Diesel, if it meets both
specs, and often is and does. I would put it in any small diesel
engine with added oil,and/or a cetane improver like Power Service.
It's not economic. But it will safely get you home.

All civil and Navy turbine aircraft use Jet-A or JP-5 fuel. The USAF
uses JP-4, which is a _wide cut gasoline_. It will run the old
"kerosene" or "white gas" tractors, multifuel military truck engines,
or a few other things, but not a modern gas or diesel engine. I'm told
reducing fuel pilferage is a reason for the USAF's intransigence in
keeping JP-4.

Ted Azito 06-27-2004 05:25 PM

Re: Willys/Ford Engine Swap? Possible?
 
L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:<40DE28B3.86CE7037@cox.net>...
> Jet fuel is kerosene.


Jet fuel is not pure, K-1 Kerosene. Use of K-1 is _not_ approved in
any civil jet engine (that I know of):it would tear up the fuel
controller unless a little oil were added. Jet-A has a lubricity spec,
and is a wider cut fuel than K-1 kerosene. It is a lower lubricity
spec than Diesel and is not specified for cetane rating. For what it's
worth, airports run all their diesels on the stuff and most don't even
add lubricant-I would for safety-but I've never heard any complaints
or damage claims. Somewhere, it's happened.

The same fuel can be sold as Jet A and #1 Diesel, if it meets both
specs, and often is and does. I would put it in any small diesel
engine with added oil,and/or a cetane improver like Power Service.
It's not economic. But it will safely get you home.

All civil and Navy turbine aircraft use Jet-A or JP-5 fuel. The USAF
uses JP-4, which is a _wide cut gasoline_. It will run the old
"kerosene" or "white gas" tractors, multifuel military truck engines,
or a few other things, but not a modern gas or diesel engine. I'm told
reducing fuel pilferage is a reason for the USAF's intransigence in
keeping JP-4.

Ted Azito 06-27-2004 05:25 PM

Re: Willys/Ford Engine Swap? Possible?
 
L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:<40DE28B3.86CE7037@cox.net>...
> Jet fuel is kerosene.


Jet fuel is not pure, K-1 Kerosene. Use of K-1 is _not_ approved in
any civil jet engine (that I know of):it would tear up the fuel
controller unless a little oil were added. Jet-A has a lubricity spec,
and is a wider cut fuel than K-1 kerosene. It is a lower lubricity
spec than Diesel and is not specified for cetane rating. For what it's
worth, airports run all their diesels on the stuff and most don't even
add lubricant-I would for safety-but I've never heard any complaints
or damage claims. Somewhere, it's happened.

The same fuel can be sold as Jet A and #1 Diesel, if it meets both
specs, and often is and does. I would put it in any small diesel
engine with added oil,and/or a cetane improver like Power Service.
It's not economic. But it will safely get you home.

All civil and Navy turbine aircraft use Jet-A or JP-5 fuel. The USAF
uses JP-4, which is a _wide cut gasoline_. It will run the old
"kerosene" or "white gas" tractors, multifuel military truck engines,
or a few other things, but not a modern gas or diesel engine. I'm told
reducing fuel pilferage is a reason for the USAF's intransigence in
keeping JP-4.

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 06-27-2004 07:28 PM

Re: Willys/Ford Engine Swap? Possible?
 
Ted, you have a web site that will say: "The same fuel can be sold as
Jet A and #1 Diesel"? That's the stupidest statement I've ever heard
anyone say!
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Ted Azito wrote:
>
> Jet fuel is not pure, K-1 Kerosene. Use of K-1 is _not_ approved in
> any civil jet engine (that I know of):it would tear up the fuel
> controller unless a little oil were added. Jet-A has a lubricity spec,
> and is a wider cut fuel than K-1 kerosene. It is a lower lubricity
> spec than Diesel and is not specified for cetane rating. For what it's
> worth, airports run all their diesels on the stuff and most don't even
> add lubricant-I would for safety-but I've never heard any complaints
> or damage claims. Somewhere, it's happened.
>
> The same fuel can be sold as Jet A and #1 Diesel, if it meets both
> specs, and often is and does. I would put it in any small diesel
> engine with added oil,and/or a cetane improver like Power Service.
> It's not economic. But it will safely get you home.
>
> All civil and Navy turbine aircraft use Jet-A or JP-5 fuel. The USAF
> uses JP-4, which is a _wide cut gasoline_. It will run the old
> "kerosene" or "white gas" tractors, multifuel military truck engines,
> or a few other things, but not a modern gas or diesel engine. I'm told
> reducing fuel pilferage is a reason for the USAF's intransigence in
> keeping JP-4.



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